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EJ Learns the Truth!; Airs the week of October 15th
Topic Started: Oct 11 2012, 02:20 PM (10,857 Views)
LuvingLumi
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JamaicanBeauty7
Oct 11 2012, 03:37 PM
LucasHortonFan
Oct 11 2012, 03:25 PM
Nice JS put the blame on Nicole. Umm no, Ej knew all along this child was his. All Ej has cared about is Sami's skanky vagina. If you sleep with her Ej, I'd protect myself cuz who knows what she has by now. Really, I guess the writers assume we are all addicted to Days of Sami's Nasty Vagina. Ummm no, not me.
What was EJ supposed to do? EJ knew the kid was his but Nicole was doing everything possible to keep him away from their child, even resorting to trying to put him in prison for a murder. Whatever it takes in her mind. -_- She pushed him away and he had no way to help her care for the baby while she was pregnant. I think it's clear he cared for that child. He's been trying to establish his rights as the baby's father and play some role in the pregnancy since he first found out she was pregnant in February. It was Nicole that did not make that happen.
Didn't Ej try to convince Sami just a few weeks ago that the kid was Rafe's? I remember he did that....so why did he do that?
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Hamilton
Oct 11 2012, 03:30 PM
Are we even suppose to take this story seriously? Ej wants to discredit Rafe for lying about the baby to the woman who let Rafe lie before about the paternity of Ej's baby? And Sami becomes so incensed it leads her back to the guy she just said she would help keep the baby from herself (again!)? Come on!
The fact that this doesn't bring back a bad taste in Ej's mouth from the first go around to the point he's ready to discard both women or go into major revenge mode against them is mind boggling.

So now we sit back as Ej's sole purpose in finding out his baby is dead is to 'slide back in' and enjoy the benefits of being with Sami? That must feel real good Ej. Thank goodness Nicole lost the baby, you don't have to take possession of the bloody thing and you have the confession you've been waiting for. What a romance this will be.

They need to put a quick wrap to this and MOVE along to something else. It's an asinine story that make the characters ridiculous and the viewers fed up.
Well when the PTB like to beat a dead horse expecting gold it fails and is just pure insanity but then so is doing the same fucking story over and over again and this fixation of the Sami EJ Rafe triangle or (Lucas) isn't soley on Tomlin EJAMI with Lucas were MarDar's and before him Sheffer's fixation. At this point it doesn't matter who is writing Sami and EJ will always be at the fore front one way or another since 2006 and on going to the present SO yep it is their "A" story A for asinine and utterly ridiculous at this point.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Oct 11 2012, 03:42 PM.
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It's amazing how badly this show sucks. :shame:
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Oct 11 2012, 03:25 PM
Nice JS put the blame on Nicole. Umm no, Ej knew all along this child was his. All Ej has cared about is Sami's skanky vagina. If you sleep with her Ej, I'd protect myself cuz who knows what she has by now. Really, I guess the writers assume we are all addicted to Days of Sami's Nasty Vagina. Ummm no, not me.
Sounds to me like JS is just sharing how he thinks his character would feel and I agree with him. It would be in character for EJ to at least partly blame Nicole for what happened.
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Does anyone really believe Nicole's baby is dead?
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I don't see JS's comments as intelligent at all. Obviously he's saying EJ pretty much knew all along that the baby was his not Rafe's with his comments about how he knew Nicole wouldn't sleep with Rafe. If he did and if he cared about the baby inside Nicole at all then he would have used his almighty resources to make sure Nicole got what she needed and that the baby survived. So why didn't he? Instead he was too busy chasing Sami's twat. It's not even about Nicole, it's about the baby. JS is just trying to spin it like if Nicole told him the baby was his, he would have taken care of her for the baby's sake. But in the same sentence he's also saying that EJ knew all along it was his so why didn't the bastard take care of his own baby then? Pick one and stick with it.
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tomsawyer
Oct 11 2012, 03:42 PM
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Oct 11 2012, 03:25 PM
Nice JS put the blame on Nicole. Umm no, Ej knew all along this child was his. All Ej has cared about is Sami's skanky vagina. If you sleep with her Ej, I'd protect myself cuz who knows what she has by now. Really, I guess the writers assume we are all addicted to Days of Sami's Nasty Vagina. Ummm no, not me.
Sounds to me like JS is just sharing how he thinks his character would feel and I agree with him. It would be in character for EJ to at least partly blame Nicole for what happened.
It also says that he wonders if he is to blame. I think that everyone acted badly here. Dan, Nicole, Rafe, Jenn, Ej are all at fault to a point. Maybe the baby would have had a better chance at survival if the had all chosen a different path. However, Ej did not put the stress on the baby to begin with by starting this lie. Rafe and Nicole did. Ej actually IMO, held back a little and stopped coming around. She was still in a constant state of stress because of the charade, and that is not Ej's fault. I am sure in the end EJ will get blamed for everything like he always does, but he has a right to be mad at Nicole. I would like to see everyone here take a little bit of blame when the truth of when the baby actually died comes out.
Edited by MissLola, Oct 11 2012, 03:51 PM.
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Oct 11 2012, 03:42 PM
Does anyone really believe Nicole's baby is dead?
I do. The birth scene makes it seem like he's really dead. It's a soap so they can always retcon it, but I don't think that's the plan as of now.
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Oct 11 2012, 03:25 PM
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Oct 11 2012, 03:14 PM
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Oct 11 2012, 03:10 PM
Hopeless_Dreamer
Oct 11 2012, 03:06 PM
At this point why would anyone want Sami near their favorite guy? She's become such a fickle slut and is totally incapable of true love. This show continues to prove that. :shame:

And once again JS is nowhere around to give his thoughts on this SL. Wonder if TPTB thought he would use the words fucking stupid to describe it. lol
There are quotes from him in the full article.
Would love to know what he had to say
Here is one JS quote,

After the call, Ej confers with the nurse, who accidently lets it slip that Nicole's baby has died. "It's very upsetting for Ej to learn that he has lost a child," states Scott. "He also feels conflicted. Ej questions if he was somehow responsible. Obviously, in EJ's case, he has to think, 'If I had known all along that the baby was mine what could I have done differently?' Maybe if Nicole hadn't been hiding this child, she would have had access to the sort of resources that EJ could have provided for her."



When did Ej ever have any doubt that was his baby? He could have demanded she see certain specialists until the baby was born and paternity was decided. I've never known Ej to be deterred from dropping in where he is uninvited either. He could have kept tabs on her pregnancy. It's BS to blame Nicole for hiding the child when he knew the truth and decided not to be involved. When we are talking about a man as determined and powerful as Ej these excuses hold no water. He made a choice and Nicole and his baby weren't his priority.

This whole story has been a big flop. ^o)
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LuvingLumi
Oct 11 2012, 03:40 PM
JamaicanBeauty7
Oct 11 2012, 03:37 PM
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Oct 11 2012, 03:25 PM
Nice JS put the blame on Nicole. Umm no, Ej knew all along this child was his. All Ej has cared about is Sami's skanky vagina. If you sleep with her Ej, I'd protect myself cuz who knows what she has by now. Really, I guess the writers assume we are all addicted to Days of Sami's Nasty Vagina. Ummm no, not me.
What was EJ supposed to do? EJ knew the kid was his but Nicole was doing everything possible to keep him away from their child, even resorting to trying to put him in prison for a murder. Whatever it takes in her mind. -_- She pushed him away and he had no way to help her care for the baby while she was pregnant. I think it's clear he cared for that child. He's been trying to establish his rights as the baby's father and play some role in the pregnancy since he first found out she was pregnant in February. It was Nicole that did not make that happen.
Didn't Ej try to convince Sami just a few weeks ago that the kid was Rafe's? I remember he did that....so why did he do that?
I remember that too. He did it to convince Sami he wasn't the father. But I also remember EJ going to Justin to try to get DNA tests of the child once it's born and establish his rights. He still thought he was the father and was continues to take legal steps to prove it, separate from whatever he was doing in his love life. Last time I checked, convincing Sami of anything doesn't make as much a difference in terms of getting his child, at least legally, compared to a court order for a DNA test. Based on the way he has been hounding down Nicole, Rafe, Daniel, Jen (and recently Abby) for a while, I figured he cares a lot about that.
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JamaicanBeauty7
Oct 11 2012, 02:30 PM
Maybe I'm in that kind of giggly mood, but I couldn't help but :laugh: over this
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"This closes down the Sami/Rafe dynamic for a while in a way that allows someone else to slide in and EJ is there, patiently waiting," explains Sweeney.


Always the opportunist, waiting in the cut. I love that man.
Why? Because Sami will go running to her SECOND choice? It's always like that. EJami fans should be just as pissed off as the EJole, Safe and Lumi fans. Sami will only go back to EJ because she is mad at Rafe, or Lucas. He is always the rebound! Turn, well maybe already turned, EJ into a pathetic lap dog! I HATE Sami, I think EJami was better back in the day, now it's just stupidity that these two could even stand to be in the same room with each other. This couple was destroyed a long time ago. I am not saying that because I am an EJole fan, I am saying that because it's true. One writer after another ruined them beyond repair. Their being together is just unfathomable.

I would like nothing better then to have Sami fall off the pier and become fish food. Let EJ find someone who cares about him and lets him be himself with them. I thought it was Nicole, but the writer's are trying real hard to destroy her as well. JMHO.
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Hamilton
Oct 11 2012, 03:52 PM
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Oct 11 2012, 03:25 PM
Ejole Lifer
Oct 11 2012, 03:14 PM
Angie79
Oct 11 2012, 03:10 PM

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Would love to know what he had to say
Here is one JS quote,

After the call, Ej confers with the nurse, who accidently lets it slip that Nicole's baby has died. "It's very upsetting for Ej to learn that he has lost a child," states Scott. "He also feels conflicted. Ej questions if he was somehow responsible. Obviously, in EJ's case, he has to think, 'If I had known all along that the baby was mine what could I have done differently?' Maybe if Nicole hadn't been hiding this child, she would have had access to the sort of resources that EJ could have provided for her."



When did Ej ever have any doubt that was his baby? He could have demanded she see certain specialists until the baby was born and paternity was decided. I've never known Ej to be deterred from dropping in where he is uninvited either. He could have kept tabs on her pregnancy. It's BS to blame Nicole for hiding the child when he knew the truth and decided not to be involved. When we are talking about a man as determined and powerful as Ej these excuses hold no water. He made a choice and Nicole and his baby weren't his priority.

This whole story has been a big flop. ^o)
Exactly but the story has been a big flop since the very beginning. At this point I really no longer care not that I wasn't already beyond tierd but its clear to me that Nicole's baby was scarificed again to make clear that the only woman that can have Elvis children is Sami who they ultimately will always focus on so you lnow what? Just put them together because this talk of the light and dark side of the two men wasn't lost on me.. just do it so this flip flopping stops because its clear no matter what they will be in story the same one so at this point just do it Sami is already destroyed beyond repair and I just can't bring myself to care anymore. Her current writing for her character with the sluttiness and unfeeling ping pong behaviour made me not want a SAFE reunion and all I wanted was for her to get therapy and be alone but that will never happen. So move Nicole Rafe and everyone else out of her orbit. Leaving EJ and Sami. This current version deserves nothing more. She is so unrootable. Just end the madness.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Oct 11 2012, 04:12 PM.
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Hamilton
Oct 11 2012, 03:52 PM
Vicky4Mimi
Oct 11 2012, 03:25 PM
Ejole Lifer
Oct 11 2012, 03:14 PM
Angie79
Oct 11 2012, 03:10 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
Would love to know what he had to say
Here is one JS quote,

After the call, Ej confers with the nurse, who accidently lets it slip that Nicole's baby has died. "It's very upsetting for Ej to learn that he has lost a child," states Scott. "He also feels conflicted. Ej questions if he was somehow responsible. Obviously, in EJ's case, he has to think, 'If I had known all along that the baby was mine what could I have done differently?' Maybe if Nicole hadn't been hiding this child, she would have had access to the sort of resources that EJ could have provided for her."



When did Ej ever have any doubt that was his baby? He could have demanded she see certain specialists until the baby was born and paternity was decided. I've never known Ej to be deterred from dropping in where he is uninvited either. He could have kept tabs on her pregnancy. It's BS to blame Nicole for hiding the child when he knew the truth and decided not to be involved. When we are talking about a man as determined and powerful as Ej these excuses hold no water. He made a choice and Nicole and his baby weren't his priority.

This whole story has been a big flop. ^o)
Exactly. Ej's priority all along has been Sami and how he could get her back. Even when the Daysaster was over, he barely showed any interest in finding out how the baby and Nicole fared thru all that. If, as JS said, that Ej isn't stupid and he knew the baby was his all along, then that should have been where his priority was, not Sami's vajayjay.
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I dont think that the baby was not a priority. Ej had so much going on with Lexie and Stefano that he had no choice but to put in aside until she got farther along in her pregnancy. He begged numerous times for her to tell him the truth and she wouldnt, out of spite. What he did was stupid and if she wants to divorce him, so be it. But she should not have kept the baby from him. I think that him NOT putting the pressure on her was a good thng for the baby. He turned to Sami originally because he had no one else and she was a shoulder for him to cry on. Just like Nicole did with Daniel and Rafe. Then they both staretd acting like idiots with their obsessing.
If tiic were smart, they would have made this aftermath of the stillbirth about the parents, not as a propping vehicle for one of the worst pairings in Days history, Dannifer. AZ and JS have done so well in scenes together like this before. Their marriage failed and instead of coming together for the sake of the baby, they both did really stupid things to push each other away instead of dealing with their feelings. And now they have nothing left. Sad, yes, but it would be much better than anything involving Dannifer and at least we would get intense and well done scenes like we did with the Sydney reveal of 2009.
Edited by MissLola, Oct 11 2012, 04:09 PM.
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Oct 11 2012, 02:36 PM
anya
Oct 11 2012, 02:27 PM
WHIPLASH!!
No kidding! Can it please STOP???!!!!!
Seriously!!

But can it stop on my side of the merry-go-round? I am not a proud woman.
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In their grief, Sami and Rafe prepare to make love.

What in the fuck is wrong with these people? I know this is Days and it's all kind of an unfunny joke but seriously- how about writing characters with some relatable feelings, for fuck's sake?!

Or at least bring the fetish out in the open, have Dan and Sami hook up. He can get off being her doctor, and he can tell her stories about dead babies. Perfect relationship right there.

I'm grateful Carrie was written out, because y'all know MarDar were racing towards BabySwitch II. Well, that's what it seemed like, anyway. So for me, this could be worse.

I'm going to need EJ to man up now. He needs to seek revenge on his enemies, imho. And maybe he needs to start having sex. A bunch of short-term bimbos could be good comic relief, and it might make EJ more realistic for me (plus, one might click and we'd get a new character). I mean, he's young, he's hot, and...he's pretty much celibate. That either should be corrected or explored, imho.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

lumifan4life
Oct 11 2012, 03:45 PM
I don't see JS's comments as intelligent at all. Obviously he's saying EJ pretty much knew all along that the baby was his not Rafe's with his comments about how he knew Nicole wouldn't sleep with Rafe. If he did and if he cared about the baby inside Nicole at all then he would have used his almighty resources to make sure Nicole got what she needed and that the baby survived. So why didn't he? Instead he was too busy chasing Sami's twat. It's not even about Nicole, it's about the baby. JS is just trying to spin it like if Nicole told him the baby was his, he would have taken care of her for the baby's sake. But in the same sentence he's also saying that EJ knew all along it was his so why didn't the bastard take care of his own baby then? Pick one and stick with it.
Short of kidnapping Nicole and keeping her locked away how was EJ supposed to 'take care of his baby' while she carried it in her womb? He tried, repeatedly, to plead his case to at least admit he was the baby's father. He reminded her time and again that she knew he was a good father and what his children mean to him. But ultimately he couldn't control Nicole physically. She made choices along the way that may have contributed to the end result - or as the MD said, it could just have been the inevitable outcome regardless of what anyone did.
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So now I think that somebody at Days/NBC/Sony is pulling a Jack Donaghy and they are deliberately trying to ruin this show. Nothing else makes any sort of sense. I don't know anyone who looks at these spoilers, these articles and thinks, "Man, this is a fantastic story. Such drama! Such romance! Such interesting characters! Such rootable couples!"

I used to just think Tomsell and Corday were just totally out of touch, stupid, talentless hacks, but this is worse than that. It really feels like somebody is seriously out to destroy this show.

Edited by Sariah, Oct 11 2012, 04:44 PM.
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Oct 11 2012, 03:59 PM
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Oct 11 2012, 02:30 PM
Maybe I'm in that kind of giggly mood, but I couldn't help but :laugh: over this
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"This closes down the Sami/Rafe dynamic for a while in a way that allows someone else to slide in and EJ is there, patiently waiting," explains Sweeney.


Always the opportunist, waiting in the cut. I love that man.
Why? Because Sami will go running to her SECOND choice? It's always like that. EJami fans should be just as pissed off as the EJole, Safe and Lumi fans. Sami will only go back to EJ because she is mad at Rafe, or Lucas. He is always the rebound! Turn, well maybe already turned, EJ into a pathetic lap dog! I HATE Sami, I think EJami was better back in the day, now it's just stupidity that these two could even stand to be in the same room with each other. This couple was destroyed a long time ago. I am not saying that because I am an EJole fan, I am saying that because it's true. One writer after another ruined them beyond repair. Their being together is just unfathomable.

I would like nothing better then to have Sami fall off the pier and become fish food. Let EJ find someone who cares about him and lets him be himself with them. I thought it was Nicole, but the writer's are trying real hard to destroy her as well. JMHO.
No, that's not the reason why I laughed but first I'll explain that I don't think Sami necessarily made EJ second best. EJ said it best to Sami: She went back to what was safer, expected... she makes things so simple "darkness vs. light." She's been gunning for the good guy off and on for years and she thought she could get that with Rafe but with this secret, that notion should crumble to pieces. Rafe isn't the white knight/perfect, honest guy she believed he is. This reveal is a game changer, at least in EJ's mind. Hopefully, Sami gets it through her head that prince charmings don't exist. People aren't perfect, they are just shades of gray. Once that happens, well who knows.

As for why I laughed, it's because EJ will never stop wanting/loving Sami. He may get mad at her and go off the deep end from time to time but he'll eventually come around and end up in this same place, whether I like it or not (because sometimes, even I want to :shame: at him). Poor schmuck got it bad. I do hope the writers take time out for EJ to grieve over his child first before dealing with Sami again. I didn't get an indication from the article that EJ is going to jump right in immediately, just that the opportunity for him to do so has presented itself now that Rafe has fucked up.
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"I like to be on top, Darling." - John Ross/Pamela

"Rafe's feelings are so conflicted over the loss of the child, but also that he lied to Sami about it. At this moment, he needs the physical connection with Sami because lying to her is hard for him."


what a pig!!!!!!!!!!!! :puke:

thank god EJ willl interupt! finally sami will see that rafe hernandez is no hero and lies and scheme like every guy that sami has been with.

this better be the end of safe and the beginning of EJami! oh yeah! :cheer: :cheers: :chee:

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