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Tuesday, October 16th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 15 2012, 01:29 PM (8,226 Views)
LonePirate
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So Nick and Gabi are stargazing in HTS. This smacks of lazy writing for two reasons. First, the HTS is supposed to have a roof on it. Is this roof made of glass or see-through plastic? Is the roof retractable, much like the ones on some sports stadiums? Secondly, with all of the light pollution and glare from the HTS, how did they see any stars in the sky anyway? I have a tough time seeing the stars at night, let alone downtown at night. Maybe I am being too critical of the writing here, especially since Gabi was supposedly a top student in high school and she's now struggling with astronomy of all courses.

There's something about the Will and Sonny scenes that seems off to me. I'm not sure if it is the writing or the interplay between the actors or maybe something else. For whatever reason, Nick and Gabi seem more authentic than Will and Sonny in these Tuesday scenes and I refuse to chalk that up to CB. There is no way she is a better actor than any of those three guys. Maybe I should stop nitpicking and simply enjoy the scenes for the mindless diversions that they are, even if they are littered with painful flashbacks.
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Bo, Caroline, Nick, Gabi, Will, Sonny, Rafe, Nicole, EJ

Bo & Hope: 10-16-12

http://youtu.be/Lp1q2Nq4h0E

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Mitchapalooza
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^ My face watching DAYS

LonePirate
Oct 15 2012, 10:45 PM
So Nick and Gabi are stargazing in HTS. This smacks of lazy writing for two reasons. First, the HTS is supposed to have a roof on it. Is this roof made of glass or see-through plastic? Is the roof retractable, much like the ones on some sports stadiums? Secondly, with all of the light pollution and glare from the HTS, how did they see any stars in the sky anyway? I have a tough time seeing the stars at night, let alone downtown at night. Maybe I am being too critical of the writing here, especially since Gabi was supposedly a top student in high school and she's now struggling with astronomy of all courses.

There's something about the Will and Sonny scenes that seems off to me. I'm not sure if it is the writing or the interplay between the actors or maybe something else. For whatever reason, Nick and Gabi seem more authentic than Will and Sonny in these Tuesday scenes and I refuse to chalk that up to CB. There is no way she is a better actor than any of those three guys. Maybe I should stop nitpicking and simply enjoy the scenes for the mindless diversions that they are, even if they are littered with painful flashbacks.
IMO its Chandler Massey....I feel like he is not comfortable in anyway with this material...he is doing a horrible sell job IMO...I do not believe for one second that Will has feelings for Sonny....the pairing is hollow and rushed...there has been no slow burn.

Massey is phoning it in lately IMO

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^^ I think so too. There's no passion in his scenes and i doubt Tomsell are in a rush. Nabi on their first date after knowing each other for something like ten minutes have kissed and you can tell they are way into each other and Wilson have known each other forever and nothing.

They feel very token-ny I'm afraid. If Gabi does fall pregnant, this will likely be more Nabi/Wabi centric.
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daysfan92


I love Chandler but I agree something seems off to me too. I love them together but it seems to me that Sonny is more into Will than Will is into Sonny. Not sure if we are to believe it is just Will not bring comfortable yet or what. I hope it gets better. They are both so cute.
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Mitchapalooza
Oct 16 2012, 01:21 PM
LonePirate
Oct 15 2012, 10:45 PM
There's something about the Will and Sonny scenes that seems off to me. I'm not sure if it is the writing or the interplay between the actors or maybe something else. For whatever reason, Nick and Gabi seem more authentic than Will and Sonny in these Tuesday scenes and I refuse to chalk that up to CB. There is no way she is a better actor than any of those three guys. Maybe I should stop nitpicking and simply enjoy the scenes for the mindless diversions that they are, even if they are littered with painful flashbacks.
IMO its Chandler Massey....I feel like he is not comfortable in anyway with this material...he is doing a horrible sell job IMO...I do not believe for one second that Will has feelings for Sonny....the pairing is hollow and rushed...there has been no slow burn.

Massey is phoning it in lately IMO

Add me to the list of the viewers/fans who think Massey is not selling the relationship, certainly not like Smith, who I think is working his ass off carrying the burden of making the romance watchable. Berris and Banus are also doing a much better job selling their relationship than Emmy winner Massey is with his on screen romance. Speaking of which, the scenes yesterday and today were probably some of the first ones Massey filmed after the two week hiatus between the Emmys and the July 4th holiday. You would think he would have realized why he won his trophy - it certainly wasn't because of that whiny, dull, straight kid he played for most of 2011. He should be working hard to prove he deserved his award. Instead, it's like he thinks the material is beneath him and so he is not even trying. I hope Meng or one of the directors spoke to him about his lack of effort because if viewers have noticed it, then it must have been painfully obvious on the set.
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Ireland98


I disagree. Watch Chandler is the only reason I can get through the WilSon scenes. Sonny seems so one-note and always has the same expressions. I think both CM and FS are trying to force the chemistry b/c TomSell wanted to throw them together quickly. It takes 2 actors to have chemistry and it involves both actors when there's not any chemistry. I think Chandler's done a great job of trying to get comfortable with his sexuality but also showing interest in Sonny. But then again, I think CM would be better to play a complex character as he was under MarDar, as opposed to the vanilla and insecure character he has to play now. :shame:
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I don't know what the writers are going for with Will exactly, but how strategic it seemed that both Gabi and Will had that sex flashback (which looked very passionate by the way) just after Gabi told Nick that they dated up until Will realized he wasn't into girls. Will just looked SO guilty! :micro:
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Wow...I just had to watch the scenes today between EJ and Nicole...and even a bit of Gabi and Nick.
And man did they make AZ look like shit. So very awesome...the tears, the snot, the red nose...actual crying over her loss. I thought it was beautiful. And even JS looked great...acting was great opposite AZ. It is amazing how he can turn it on when he is working with her. Looking forward to tomorrow. They are such a tragically beautiful couple. I'll never understand why they took these two decent characters/actors and make them pathetic interlopers for Safe and Dannifer.

Rafe looked good when he was with Nicole...in that suit. But AS can't do subtle for shit. And I'm happy with Safe. Sami and Rafe can be together and have griefsex and bask in their hypocritical love and I'm peachy with that. We just have to break this stupid tie with Nicole and Safe can do their make up/break up dance all the time...and I can NOT watch. :)

I like Nick alot...not such a big Gabi fan, but I'm just happy that he is not with Melanie anymore...so I'll take it.

For somer reason, I have zero interest in whatever is going on with Caroline and Bope. Can't get into it.
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rpmaluki
Oct 16 2012, 01:34 PM
^^ I think so too. There's no passion in his scenes and i doubt Tomsell are in a rush. Nabi on their first date after knowing each other for something like ten minutes have kissed and you can tell they are way into each other and Wilson have known each other forever and nothing.

They feel very token-ny I'm afraid. If Gabi does fall pregnant, this will likely be more Nabi/Wabi centric.
Nabi & Wabi centric? Are you kidding me? William is GAY and if you can't accept that, get over yourself.
Edited by La_Laa, Oct 16 2012, 03:00 PM.
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Mitchapalooza
Oct 16 2012, 01:21 PM
LonePirate
Oct 15 2012, 10:45 PM
So Nick and Gabi are stargazing in HTS. This smacks of lazy writing for two reasons. First, the HTS is supposed to have a roof on it. Is this roof made of glass or see-through plastic? Is the roof retractable, much like the ones on some sports stadiums? Secondly, with all of the light pollution and glare from the HTS, how did they see any stars in the sky anyway? I have a tough time seeing the stars at night, let alone downtown at night. Maybe I am being too critical of the writing here, especially since Gabi was supposedly a top student in high school and she's now struggling with astronomy of all courses.

There's something about the Will and Sonny scenes that seems off to me. I'm not sure if it is the writing or the interplay between the actors or maybe something else. For whatever reason, Nick and Gabi seem more authentic than Will and Sonny in these Tuesday scenes and I refuse to chalk that up to CB. There is no way she is a better actor than any of those three guys. Maybe I should stop nitpicking and simply enjoy the scenes for the mindless diversions that they are, even if they are littered with painful flashbacks.
IMO its Chandler Massey....I feel like he is not comfortable in anyway with this material...he is doing a horrible sell job IMO...I do not believe for one second that Will has feelings for Sonny....the pairing is hollow and rushed...there has been no slow burn.

Massey is phoning it in lately IMO


ICAM!!! When Chandler was in scenes with Deidre he was magic! But now.... His acting has went downhill. I don't even watch him anymore.
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Loving Nick/Gabi and WilSon. Chandler seems ok to me. :shrug:
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michr544125


I thought Will and Sonny were adorable today. They were acting like a real couple to me. The problem is they have no real story and they need to be allowed to start acting more passionate toward each other. Their first kiss was pretty intense but ever since they haven't been allowed to show that kind of kissing. But I am also ok with a bit of a build for them. Nick and Gabi are already having sex. No build or anything. It's all a plot point for them to get into bed.
Edited by michr544125, Oct 16 2012, 04:55 PM.
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Mitchapalooza
Oct 16 2012, 01:21 PM
LonePirate
Oct 15 2012, 10:45 PM
So Nick and Gabi are stargazing in HTS. This smacks of lazy writing for two reasons. First, the HTS is supposed to have a roof on it. Is this roof made of glass or see-through plastic? Is the roof retractable, much like the ones on some sports stadiums? Secondly, with all of the light pollution and glare from the HTS, how did they see any stars in the sky anyway? I have a tough time seeing the stars at night, let alone downtown at night. Maybe I am being too critical of the writing here, especially since Gabi was supposedly a top student in high school and she's now struggling with astronomy of all courses.

There's something about the Will and Sonny scenes that seems off to me. I'm not sure if it is the writing or the interplay between the actors or maybe something else. For whatever reason, Nick and Gabi seem more authentic than Will and Sonny in these Tuesday scenes and I refuse to chalk that up to CB. There is no way she is a better actor than any of those three guys. Maybe I should stop nitpicking and simply enjoy the scenes for the mindless diversions that they are, even if they are littered with painful flashbacks.
IMO its Chandler Massey....I feel like he is not comfortable in anyway with this material...he is doing a horrible sell job IMO...I do not believe for one second that Will has feelings for Sonny....the pairing is hollow and rushed...there has been no slow burn.

Massey is phoning it in lately IMO

I am interested to see if things change over the next few weeks. Chandler was obviously was doing some damage control when he tweeted after fans called him out and also in the interview he did on this board. Based on taping schedules and when that tweet was made should be interesting to see if things change over the next few weeks. But in all fairness for the first WilSon kiss Chandler did a great job with that and seemed very into it. I think most of this is chalked up to the the writers and directors not allowing WilSon to be passionate enough with each other and not the fault of either actor. I think they have been great but they do need to turn more intense soon but the writing hasn't allowed them to do much not to mention their screen time has been too short.

But it is very interesting how Will and Sonny are supposed to be a landmark couple for this show and not once do we ever see Chandler nor Freddie do press together. We don't even see Chandler talk about the show at all anymore and is that because he doesn't want to talk about WilSon? The past few months was all Freddie doing press and trying to promote WilSon.
Edited by michr544125, Oct 16 2012, 05:09 PM.
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Ireland98
Oct 16 2012, 02:32 PM
I disagree. Watch Chandler is the only reason I can get through the WilSon scenes. Sonny seems so one-note and always has the same expressions. I think both CM and FS are trying to force the chemistry b/c TomSell wanted to throw them together quickly. It takes 2 actors to have chemistry and it involves both actors when there's not any chemistry. I think Chandler's done a great job of trying to get comfortable with his sexuality but also showing interest in Sonny. But then again, I think CM would be better to play a complex character as he was under MarDar, as opposed to the vanilla and insecure character he has to play now. :shame:
will may started complex character as he was under MarDar,will went down the hill when became ej labdog
it better be vanila than labdog

if there with wilson have problem it only because mardr waste of will scences and airtime of will with ej and tomlin came back to wilson but it been while they really interact it almost seem it came out of nowhere
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#TeamXander

LOL, Will is like man handling Sonny's head. Sonny will a massage therapist soon. :lol:
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lysie


I think Will and Sonny are both dull and neither actor is putting in good work right now. I think Chandler does fine with certain types of conflict, but everything else he's just kind of blah and there. As dull as he is, I do prefer Will now to the eternal brat that we had with him for several months.
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I thought Sonny and Will had a nice chemistry. It's very sweet and natural to me. I didn't see anything forced. I do think they are a little dull at the moment, but that's usually the case when a couple is running around without any kind of conflict.
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lysie
Oct 16 2012, 06:55 PM
I think Will and Sonny are both dull and neither actor is putting in good work right now. I think Chandler does fine with certain types of conflict, but everything else he's just kind of blah and there. As dull as he is, I do prefer Will now to the eternal brat that we had with him for several months.

I never got tire of him calling Sami out on her crap. Other than Marlena, that's the only time I've enjoyed Will.

I agree, Will and Sonny are a snoozefest.
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so is Nick secretly a homophobe? or secretly gay too?
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