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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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Yes! Give us a fucking break from EJ and Sami in each other 's orbit and lets see what happens. Can't we at least get a break?
We've had one. Most of 2011 EJami had little interaction. From the time of Johnny's last eye cancer surgery until grief sex you could count the number of scenes they shared on two hands, if not one. And even after grief sex, they rarely shared scenes until the reveal.
Well we're do for another one. They've been on together none stop at least since March. I know some of you love them, but some of us hate them and it's only fair that since they've been on screen for the last seven months then they should be off screen for seven months for those of us who hate them. And when I say off screen, I don't mean the characters I mean the two of them interacting together. For the next seven months give them each a storyline that doesn't involve the other.
If only these shows were written with 'fairness' in mind...

I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing precious little of EJ, Sami, Rafe, Nicole, Daniel etc. at all.

What is 'fair' really becomes subjective, depending on who you like and what storyline you favor. You may feel that EJami has been on together non stop for the last seven months - but during a significant portion of that time Sami was sleeping with Lucas, EJ was begging Nicole for another chance and now Sami is pining for Rafe. That's hardly the non stop EJami time I would root for. So perhaps it's only fair to put them together in a mutually committed relationship for the first time in their 6&1/2 years of story before we take a long break from them. I could go for that. ;)
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I couldn't care less about any of the pairings, but if we're talking fair, I'd like to see all of them offscreen for at least four years. Lets let someone else drive the show into the ground.
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I don't care if Ejami had a long break in 2011, the fact that they remained 'in story' enough to have grief sex at the end of 2011 and then warm up to whatever the fuck you want to call their 'relationship' over a bottle of Pinot and talk of good sex without even working out their issues since she shot him and he planted a double of her husband in her bed is really the problem with them. The story IMHO is a cluster fuck period. To top it all off TomSell think they could easily to exactly what they did in 2008, take Lucas out of the triangle (which IMHO was bad already) and plant Rafe in and write Safe as this indestructible force. Same shit, different year. What happened to writing something 'new' that no one has seen before. For example, a Lumi/Safe triangle, or heck a new love interest for Lucas? No, that's just too much to ask right? For new stories....I know they might not be too exciting but at least they aren't something we've been watching on and off since late 2008 right?
I always thought a lumi/safe triangle would have been interesting i hate when triangles get dragged out for years thats one of the reasons i got sick of the sami/austin/carrie tri or the Bo/Hope/Billie tri they dragged them out for years
Even if it turns out to be shitty, at least we haven't seen it before, right? There is SO much they could do instead of another round of Ejami vs Safe. they could have Lucas have a love interest, fall in love and then have Sami be inserted in. HOLY SHIT a love triangle with Sami being one of the two women fighting for a guy. They could do anything but they refuse to, it's easier to go back and write the same crap they did in 2008 again. It's just dumb at this point to even try to come up with a reason why they continue to do it. Case in point, Dannifer was a flop and they go right back to it....Chloe is returning, wanna bet where she is going to end up? IN Dan's orbit yet again. why is it that Tomlin can only write for a select few characters, Sami/Rafe/Nicole/Ej/Daniel and just when you thought Brady was going to end up alone and without a story, he's back in the game with apparently something coming up with Kristen. They continuously give story to the same few over and over again. It's frustrating if you aren't a fan of any of these characters and I like Brady but come on.....give someone else something for a change
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Oct 22 2012, 09:29 AM
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Oct 22 2012, 07:31 AM
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Oct 22 2012, 07:25 AM
I don't care if Ejami had a long break in 2011, the fact that they remained 'in story' enough to have grief sex at the end of 2011 and then warm up to whatever the fuck you want to call their 'relationship' over a bottle of Pinot and talk of good sex without even working out their issues since she shot him and he planted a double of her husband in her bed is really the problem with them. The story IMHO is a cluster fuck period. To top it all off TomSell think they could easily to exactly what they did in 2008, take Lucas out of the triangle (which IMHO was bad already) and plant Rafe in and write Safe as this indestructible force. Same shit, different year. What happened to writing something 'new' that no one has seen before. For example, a Lumi/Safe triangle, or heck a new love interest for Lucas? No, that's just too much to ask right? For new stories....I know they might not be too exciting but at least they aren't something we've been watching on and off since late 2008 right?
I always thought a lumi/safe triangle would have been interesting i hate when triangles get dragged out for years thats one of the reasons i got sick of the sami/austin/carrie tri or the Bo/Hope/Billie tri they dragged them out for years
Even if it turns out to be shitty, at least we haven't seen it before, right? There is SO much they could do instead of another round of Ejami vs Safe. they could have Lucas have a love interest, fall in love and then have Sami be inserted in. HOLY SHIT a love triangle with Sami being one of the two women fighting for a guy. They could do anything but they refuse to, it's easier to go back and write the same crap they did in 2008 again. It's just dumb at this point to even try to come up with a reason why they continue to do it. Case in point, Dannifer was a flop and they go right back to it....Chloe is returning, wanna bet where she is going to end up? IN Dan's orbit yet again. why is it that Tomlin can only write for a select few characters, Sami/Rafe/Nicole/Ej/Daniel and just when you thought Brady was going to end up alone and without a story, he's back in the game with apparently something coming up with Kristen. They continuously give story to the same few over and over again. It's frustrating if you aren't a fan of any of these characters and I like Brady but come on.....give someone else something for a change
I see nothing shitty with a triangle that both men are rootable and Sami loves with her whole heart. Free from manipulation and threats. NOW that triangle would be worth watching as Sami would actually have valid reasons for being torn about who to pick. In any case we wont know unless they write it.
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Yes! Give us a fucking break from EJ and Sami in each other 's orbit and lets see what happens. Can't we at least get a break?
We've had one. Most of 2011 EJami had little interaction. From the time of Johnny's last eye cancer surgery until grief sex you could count the number of scenes they shared on two hands, if not one. And even after grief sex, they rarely shared scenes until the reveal.
I wish I could say "OMG, there is TOO MUCH ejami in love and together on my screen! I can't take the kissing, hugging, screwing each others brains out all the time! I can't take it! I need a fucking break! :frustration: " It can happen because there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. I could still reach that point despite my love for that couple; I've been there with other shows/couplings. That would be refreshing to say, for once, and not jokingly with ejami. Instead, I'm still waiting for that moment for them to do the above for a significant period of time because I haven't seen it yet.
But we also have the ejami fans who would say that's not them. They don't do the lovey dovey. JS just said, "They love each other, but not necessarily in a romantic way'. What you just describe falls into romantic. But even if you didn't get the whole package, you still got none stop of ejami for months and that can't be denied. And we who hate ejami deserve a break just like all the people who hate EJ with Nicole were most definitely given a break.
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Oct 22 2012, 09:29 AM
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Oct 22 2012, 07:31 AM
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Oct 22 2012, 07:25 AM
I don't care if Ejami had a long break in 2011, the fact that they remained 'in story' enough to have grief sex at the end of 2011 and then warm up to whatever the fuck you want to call their 'relationship' over a bottle of Pinot and talk of good sex without even working out their issues since she shot him and he planted a double of her husband in her bed is really the problem with them. The story IMHO is a cluster fuck period. To top it all off TomSell think they could easily to exactly what they did in 2008, take Lucas out of the triangle (which IMHO was bad already) and plant Rafe in and write Safe as this indestructible force. Same shit, different year. What happened to writing something 'new' that no one has seen before. For example, a Lumi/Safe triangle, or heck a new love interest for Lucas? No, that's just too much to ask right? For new stories....I know they might not be too exciting but at least they aren't something we've been watching on and off since late 2008 right?
I always thought a lumi/safe triangle would have been interesting i hate when triangles get dragged out for years thats one of the reasons i got sick of the sami/austin/carrie tri or the Bo/Hope/Billie tri they dragged them out for years
Even if it turns out to be shitty, at least we haven't seen it before, right? There is SO much they could do instead of another round of Ejami vs Safe. they could have Lucas have a love interest, fall in love and then have Sami be inserted in. HOLY SHIT a love triangle with Sami being one of the two women fighting for a guy. They could do anything but they refuse to, it's easier to go back and write the same crap they did in 2008 again. It's just dumb at this point to even try to come up with a reason why they continue to do it. Case in point, Dannifer was a flop and they go right back to it....Chloe is returning, wanna bet where she is going to end up? IN Dan's orbit yet again. why is it that Tomlin can only write for a select few characters, Sami/Rafe/Nicole/Ej/Daniel and just when you thought Brady was going to end up alone and without a story, he's back in the game with apparently something coming up with Kristen. They continuously give story to the same few over and over again. It's frustrating if you aren't a fan of any of these characters and I like Brady but come on.....give someone else something for a change
Yes! That's the saddest part. There's so many stories to be told besides EJ wants Sami and Sami wants Rafe. So many stories these three in each other's orbit fighting for a woman who really isn't worth having.
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We've had one. Most of 2011 EJami had little interaction. From the time of Johnny's last eye cancer surgery until grief sex you could count the number of scenes they shared on two hands, if not one. And even after grief sex, they rarely shared scenes until the reveal.
Well we're do for another one. They've been on together none stop at least since March. I know some of you love them, but some of us hate them and it's only fair that since they've been on screen for the last seven months then they should be off screen for seven months for those of us who hate them. And when I say off screen, I don't mean the characters I mean the two of them interacting together. For the next seven months give them each a storyline that doesn't involve the other.
If only these shows were written with 'fairness' in mind...

I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing precious little of EJ, Sami, Rafe, Nicole, Daniel etc. at all.

What is 'fair' really becomes subjective, depending on who you like and what storyline you favor. You may feel that EJami has been on together non stop for the last seven months - but during a significant portion of that time Sami was sleeping with Lucas, EJ was begging Nicole for another chance and now Sami is pining for Rafe. That's hardly the non stop EJami time I would root for. So perhaps it's only fair to put them together in a mutually committed relationship for the first time in their 6&1/2 years of story before we take a long break from them. I could go for that. ;)
Oh I agree. They should have done their story years ago when they fired Bryan and AS said that was done to see if EJ and Sami could work and they couldn't do it if Lucas was still around. Just think how far away we could be from EJ and Sami by now.....I could faint from happiness. But instead of putting them together as a real couple, they brought in Galen as Rafe and the rest is history. But I would have loved it if ejami had been given their chance years ago and maybe by now they would just be a faint memory like Sami and Austin or Mike and Carrie.....over and done with.
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Well we're do for another one. They've been on together none stop at least since March. I know some of you love them, but some of us hate them and it's only fair that since they've been on screen for the last seven months then they should be off screen for seven months for those of us who hate them. And when I say off screen, I don't mean the characters I mean the two of them interacting together. For the next seven months give them each a storyline that doesn't involve the other.
If only these shows were written with 'fairness' in mind...

I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing precious little of EJ, Sami, Rafe, Nicole, Daniel etc. at all.

What is 'fair' really becomes subjective, depending on who you like and what storyline you favor. You may feel that EJami has been on together non stop for the last seven months - but during a significant portion of that time Sami was sleeping with Lucas, EJ was begging Nicole for another chance and now Sami is pining for Rafe. That's hardly the non stop EJami time I would root for. So perhaps it's only fair to put them together in a mutually committed relationship for the first time in their 6&1/2 years of story before we take a long break from them. I could go for that. ;)
Oh I agree. They should have done their story years ago when they fired Bryan and AS said that was done to see if EJ and Sami could work and they couldn't do it if Lucas was still around. Just think how far away we could be from EJ and Sami by now.....I could faint from happiness. But instead of putting them together as a real couple, they brought in Galen as Rafe and the rest is history. But I would have loved it if ejami had been given their chance years ago and maybe by now they would just be a faint memory like Sami and Austin or Mike and Carrie.....over and done with.
I view EJ and Sami the same way I did Sami and Austin.. they would have periods where Austin would be dumbed down and Sami "gets him". While he was clearly in love with Carrie. Same with EJ and Sami.. he has had periods where he has "gotten her" but like Austin loved Carrie Sami loves Rafe/ Lucas and like Sami in getting Austin used manipulation EJ does the same thing and I doubt that will ever change. IMO MarDar were going to have her "fall in love" with EJ for real but that was just so unbelievably executed and full of holes. So the only "real" chance of them happening is if EJ stops manipulating her to be with him but as was never the case with Saustin I doubt EJAMI will be written any differently even if down the line they do go there with them. Bottom line as always written there will be lies on EJ's part and sami will always run back to Rafe/ Lucas when the shit hits the fan.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Oct 22 2012, 10:32 AM.
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At this point, there really isn't anything new to do with Sami. You know how people and tptb complain about running out of stories for the vets and veteran characters running their course? Well...Sami/AS is more of a vet than the majority of the people referred to as vets. She's been on and front and center for almost 20 consecutive years. That's more than Deidre Hall, Kristian Alfonso, and Peter Reckell ever had without a lengthy absence. More than Joe Mascolo, Mary Beth Evans, Stephen Nichols, Wayne Northrop. There are other actors with more consecutive years, but those actors spent a SIGNIFICANT amount of time in the background. I could draw some similarities between Sami's use and John Black's use, but even he spent a good bit of time in the background. It's just ridiculous. She hasn't been out of the A story in at least 6 years. Even in their glory days that wasn't true for other main characters. There was a rotation of stories. It doesn't seem like too much to ask for a break.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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Well we're do for another one. They've been on together none stop at least since March. I know some of you love them, but some of us hate them and it's only fair that since they've been on screen for the last seven months then they should be off screen for seven months for those of us who hate them. And when I say off screen, I don't mean the characters I mean the two of them interacting together. For the next seven months give them each a storyline that doesn't involve the other.
If only these shows were written with 'fairness' in mind...

I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing precious little of EJ, Sami, Rafe, Nicole, Daniel etc. at all.

What is 'fair' really becomes subjective, depending on who you like and what storyline you favor. You may feel that EJami has been on together non stop for the last seven months - but during a significant portion of that time Sami was sleeping with Lucas, EJ was begging Nicole for another chance and now Sami is pining for Rafe. That's hardly the non stop EJami time I would root for. So perhaps it's only fair to put them together in a mutually committed relationship for the first time in their 6&1/2 years of story before we take a long break from them. I could go for that. ;)
Oh I agree. They should have done their story years ago when they fired Bryan and AS said that was done to see if EJ and Sami could work and they couldn't do it if Lucas was still around. Just think how far away we could be from EJ and Sami by now.....I could faint from happiness. But instead of putting them together as a real couple, they brought in Galen as Rafe and the rest is history. But I would have loved it if ejami had been given their chance years ago and maybe by now they would just be a faint memory like Sami and Austin or Mike and Carrie.....over and done with.
Exactly. Who knows what might have happened if they'd gone full steam ahead with EJami back in 2008? But they didn't. Instead they seem to have settled into this tit for tat, will they or won't they cycle that we've seen ever since. Love them or hate them - the dragging the potential of the story round and round wears everyone out.
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I like certain couples over the years and the leads of the show sami ej rafe nicole daniel i can root for them all at times. But i just wish the writters would commit to real relationships and storylines with them. Im not a huge ejami fan id much prefer ejole but if they go with ejami i would like them to have a real romance that last more than five minutes. If daniel is going to be on every day then they need to give us something rootable about him. Same goes with rafe. As for nicole she needs character growth i love bad girl nicole but not so much pathetic nicole. She should be allowed atleast a little happiness before screwing it all up. But most of all i just want to see new fresh storys that we havent seen before. Every soap has there few leads these five just happen to be ours
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Oct 22 2012, 10:29 AM
I like certain couples over the years and the leads of the show sami ej rafe nicole daniel i can root for them all at times. But i just wish the writters would commit to real relationships and storylines with them. Im not a huge ejami fan id much prefer ejole but if they go with ejami i would like them to have a real romance that last more than five minutes. If daniel is going to be on every day then they need to give us something rootable about him. Same goes with rafe. As for nicole she needs character growth i love bad girl nicole but not so much pathetic nicole. She should be allowed atleast a little happiness before screwing it all up. But most of all i just want to see new fresh storys that we havent seen before. Every soap has there few leads these five just happen to be ours
That also just happens to be why our show sucks. I can't root for any of these people.

I can't speak for other soaps, but Days used to do a much better job of rotating stories. John and Marlena were leads but their story wasn't front and center all year long. The B stories also used to get better focus. I feel like Days is the A story all the time, with the minor stories barely even managing to get noticed.
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Oct 22 2012, 11:51 AM
Courtneya6688
Oct 22 2012, 10:29 AM
I like certain couples over the years and the leads of the show sami ej rafe nicole daniel i can root for them all at times. But i just wish the writters would commit to real relationships and storylines with them. Im not a huge ejami fan id much prefer ejole but if they go with ejami i would like them to have a real romance that last more than five minutes. If daniel is going to be on every day then they need to give us something rootable about him. Same goes with rafe. As for nicole she needs character growth i love bad girl nicole but not so much pathetic nicole. She should be allowed atleast a little happiness before screwing it all up. But most of all i just want to see new fresh storys that we havent seen before. Every soap has there few leads these five just happen to be ours
That also just happens to be why our show sucks. I can't root for any of these people.

I can't speak for other soaps, but Days used to do a much better job of rotating stories. John and Marlena were leads but their story wasn't front and center all year long. The B stories also used to get better focus. I feel like Days is the A story all the time, with the minor stories barely even managing to get noticed.
Thus is the problem over exposure for certain characters who are favored or used to promote these certain characters. Like you said we no longer get rotation, we get Sami inserted in some way in every storyline. And of course certain characters can be villians or bad but with Day's it's over the top, when your villians become the rootable character and the hero's are despised. ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEM and fix it.
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Fan of EJ+ABBY!

They sure have been dragging the story of who wants who.. I am also very tired of all triangles really.. its got ridiculous. At some point you loose interest, .. sure its maybe sweet scenes at some point here and there.. but as I said you loose interest after to much of the same story.
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If only these shows were written with 'fairness' in mind...

I'm pretty sure we'd be seeing precious little of EJ, Sami, Rafe, Nicole, Daniel etc. at all.

What is 'fair' really becomes subjective, depending on who you like and what storyline you favor. You may feel that EJami has been on together non stop for the last seven months - but during a significant portion of that time Sami was sleeping with Lucas, EJ was begging Nicole for another chance and now Sami is pining for Rafe. That's hardly the non stop EJami time I would root for. So perhaps it's only fair to put them together in a mutually committed relationship for the first time in their 6&1/2 years of story before we take a long break from them. I could go for that. ;)
Oh I agree. They should have done their story years ago when they fired Bryan and AS said that was done to see if EJ and Sami could work and they couldn't do it if Lucas was still around. Just think how far away we could be from EJ and Sami by now.....I could faint from happiness. But instead of putting them together as a real couple, they brought in Galen as Rafe and the rest is history. But I would have loved it if ejami had been given their chance years ago and maybe by now they would just be a faint memory like Sami and Austin or Mike and Carrie.....over and done with.
Exactly. Who knows what might have happened if they'd gone full steam ahead with EJami back in 2008? But they didn't. Instead they seem to have settled into this tit for tat, will they or won't they cycle that we've seen ever since. Love them or hate them - the dragging the potential of the story round and round wears everyone out.
And then no matter what, they would have had their chance. But of course they're chance would have been as good as the writers would have chosen to give them.
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Glad to see the Kayla/Abe angle being revisited. Dannifer should take a hint from them on how to mourn before being close!
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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Oh I agree. They should have done their story years ago when they fired Bryan and AS said that was done to see if EJ and Sami could work and they couldn't do it if Lucas was still around. Just think how far away we could be from EJ and Sami by now.....I could faint from happiness. But instead of putting them together as a real couple, they brought in Galen as Rafe and the rest is history. But I would have loved it if ejami had been given their chance years ago and maybe by now they would just be a faint memory like Sami and Austin or Mike and Carrie.....over and done with.
Exactly. Who knows what might have happened if they'd gone full steam ahead with EJami back in 2008? But they didn't. Instead they seem to have settled into this tit for tat, will they or won't they cycle that we've seen ever since. Love them or hate them - the dragging the potential of the story round and round wears everyone out.
And then no matter what, they would have had their chance. But of course they're chance would have been as good as the writers would have chosen to give them.
Agreed. Which is the same chance that any pairing ever has - it all comes down to the writing. I've often said - and the whiplash on this show proves - it just takes the flick of a pen and a writer's whim and we're off in a completely different direction.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

lysie
Oct 22 2012, 09:26 AM
I couldn't care less about any of the pairings, but if we're talking fair, I'd like to see all of them offscreen for at least four years. Lets let someone else drive the show into the ground.
This was such a hilarious post,I agree to the extinct.
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lysie
Oct 22 2012, 09:26 AM
I couldn't care less about any of the pairings, but if we're talking fair, I'd like to see all of them offscreen for at least four years. Lets let someone else drive the show into the ground.
After today's show I am certainly looking forward to more Kristin,Marlena,and John especially after Stefano returns to Salem.I don't even mind the baby drama with Gabi as much since it will involve Nick,Will,and Sonny.
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