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Spoilers for the week of October 29th; *updated 10/23*
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LonePirate
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Oct 23 2012, 02:30 PM
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I personally can't get behind the Wilson pairing at this point not because I have a problem with the storyline other than the only person in Salem portrayed to have a problem is Lucas. BUT more because I think Will is a disloyal piece of shit, look at the Daysaster Sami was back with his father and HE knew it, yet still helped her go on the run with EJ (a man he hated at one time and who his father took the blame for shooting). And then showed very little emotion or empathy for Lucas being hurt by his mother yet again for other men. What in the world does Will's relationship with or (lack of) respect for Lucas have to do with his romance with Sonny? That's like saying Sami shouldn't be in a relationship with Rafe/EJ/Lucas/whoever because of Sami's lack of respect for Marlena. It is completely nonsensical.
I get that you are exceptionally bitter about Will siding with EJ over Lucas, but why should that disqualify Will from seeking some happiness with Sonny? This line of thought is so bizarre that I cannot even begin to wrap my head around it. There are other reasons not to support Will's relationship with Sonny; but Will's relationship with his father is not one of them.
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Oct 23 2012, 02:30 PM
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No Halloween party this year? Bummer. They should've had a party and used that as Kristen's re-entrance. John thinks it's Marlena in a costume, but it's actually Kristen. She takes off the mask - John & everyone else are shocked. Would've been a great promo too. Oh well..
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Oct 23 2012, 02:45 PM
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I personally can't get behind the Wilson pairing at this point not because I have a problem with the storyline other than the only person in Salem portrayed to have a problem is Lucas. BUT more because I think Will is a disloyal piece of shit, look at the Daysaster Sami was back with his father and HE knew it, yet still helped her go on the run with EJ (a man he hated at one time and who his father took the blame for shooting). And then showed very little emotion or empathy for Lucas being hurt by his mother yet again for other men.
What in the world does Will's relationship with or (lack of) respect for Lucas have to do with his romance with Sonny? That's like saying Sami shouldn't be in a relationship with Rafe/EJ/Lucas/whoever because of Sami's lack of respect for Marlena. It is completely nonsensical. I get that you are exceptionally bitter about Will siding with EJ over Lucas, but why should that disqualify Will from seeking some happiness with Sonny? This line of thought is so bizarre that I cannot even begin to wrap my head around it. There are other reasons not to support Will's relationship with Sonny; but Will's relationship with his father is not one of them. will lack of respect with so many people in life that so many things for him with no reason why and his respect to some should make unrootable as character and will used sonny when finally he showed he had feeling to sonny he end sleeping with gabi
which make him not rootable as pairing with someone to some people
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Oct 23 2012, 02:52 PM
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Considering how often Kate meddled in the personal lives of her children, is anyone surprised that Lucas is doing the same thing with Will? I would have thought it weird if Lucas (or Sami) didn't try to sabotage the Will and Sonny relationship. I wonder if we will see that Lucas' concerns are rooted in a growing dislike of Sonny and not due to Sonny's gender. I don't mind that someone is generating friction for Will and Sonny; and the reason why is immaterial to me because Lucas' motivations and reasons will change again in a couple days. One day he is homophobic. The next day he is understanding. It's nothing but one sustained yo-yo trick with Lucas' characterization. I'm not going to get too worked up about it as we all know Lucas is going to be supportive in the end and Will/Sonny are going to overcome his interference.
I see it as Lucas being a protective father. Sure maybe the diehard WilSon fans will hate him for it. It's expected and I don't have a problem with it. Lumi fans felt the same way about Kate for years. The way I see it, if this was Lucas's daughter, would people see him as being thrown under the bus? He'd be seen as an overly protective dad of his little girl. Why should things be any different just cause Will is a boy? I find it refreshing that the show is ignoring stereotypes here and is having Lucas be just as protective over his son's sex life as he would be if it was his daughter instead. Also history shows that Lucas had a problem with Will's girlfriend Mia in the past as well. That itself proves that Lucas is always going to have a problem with Will's love interests. So this does not surprise me at all. Lucas is not perfect and I don't understand why people want him to be. He's Kate's son afterall, meddling is in his dna. He used to be a schemer. He was never perfect, in fact he was far from it. Will is his little boy, always has been, he raised him, it makes sense, lol. As someone who always loved and appreciated the character of Lucas for the extremely flawed person he is, this doesn't bother me at all. If he was more like say...perfect Rafe sent from the heavens, then I'd be rolling my eyes.
I get and like some of what you're sayiung I think the problem that most Lucas (BD) fans have is that Sami who was always the bad parent jumping into issues at Will's school and acting the ass that Sami is, first ran from the problem then whiplash she's now perfectly fine with it all. (Or maybe doesn't give a rats ass because she has other things going on in her life like her merry go round of men.) On the other hand Lucas was always the level headed one with Will, if anything and charcters stayed true to who they are, Sami would be spitting bullets and Lucas would be rolling his eyes at her as always. I don't like the dynamic they've changed between Will and Lucas, Will has recently shown that he has animosity with Lucas and has sided with Rafe over his father, and even EJ whom he shot in the head and dad Lucas took the fall. I'd like to see that part of their relationship restored to what it has always been. On the flip side, hell if it gives Lucas airtime, I guess I'd rather that than nothing. :shrug: Sami's too busy trying to work out her men folk to have time to be a bad parent - someones got to pick up the slack.
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Oct 23 2012, 02:55 PM
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I personally can't get behind the Wilson pairing at this point not because I have a problem with the storyline other than the only person in Salem portrayed to have a problem is Lucas. BUT more because I think Will is a disloyal piece of shit, look at the Daysaster Sami was back with his father and HE knew it, yet still helped her go on the run with EJ (a man he hated at one time and who his father took the blame for shooting). And then showed very little emotion or empathy for Lucas being hurt by his mother yet again for other men.
What in the world does Will's relationship with or (lack of) respect for Lucas have to do with his romance with Sonny? That's like saying Sami shouldn't be in a relationship with Rafe/EJ/Lucas/whoever because of Sami's lack of respect for Marlena. It is completely nonsensical. I get that you are exceptionally bitter about Will siding with EJ over Lucas, but why should that disqualify Will from seeking some happiness with Sonny? This line of thought is so bizarre that I cannot even begin to wrap my head around it. There are other reasons not to support Will's relationship with Sonny; but Will's relationship with his father is not one of them.
will lack of respect with so many people in life that so many things for him with no reason why and his respect to some should make unrootable as character and will used sonny when finally he showed he had feeling to sonny he end sleeping with gabi which make him not rootable as pairing with someone to some people If lack of respect towards one's parents were a deciding factor in whether or not someone should be in a relationship, then there is no one on this show who should be in a relationship. Again, Will and Sonny have plenty of issues on their own without dumping on the relationship because Will isn't the perfect, loyal son to his father. The two relationships have nothing to do with each other. I take no issue with people hating on Will. In fact, hate all you want as he has done plenty to deserve it. I simply think it is ridiculous and petty to trash his relationship with Sonny because you have a beef with how you think he should treat Lucas.
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Oct 23 2012, 02:56 PM
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I would have thought we'd have at least one spoiler for John/Marlena/Kristen during Nov sweeps. The Marlena/Kristen therapist spoiler doesn't count...doesn't really make sense. Had such high hopes for a great story for these characters, but all we see are more EJ and Sami involvement. Do they have to be involved in everything? Way past time for a long break from these characters.
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Oct 23 2012, 03:59 PM
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I personally can't get behind the Wilson pairing at this point not because I have a problem with the storyline other than the only person in Salem portrayed to have a problem is Lucas. BUT more because I think Will is a disloyal piece of shit, look at the Daysaster Sami was back with his father and HE knew it, yet still helped her go on the run with EJ (a man he hated at one time and who his father took the blame for shooting). And then showed very little emotion or empathy for Lucas being hurt by his mother yet again for other men.
What in the world does Will's relationship with or (lack of) respect for Lucas have to do with his romance with Sonny? That's like saying Sami shouldn't be in a relationship with Rafe/EJ/Lucas/whoever because of Sami's lack of respect for Marlena. It is completely nonsensical. I get that you are exceptionally bitter about Will siding with EJ over Lucas, but why should that disqualify Will from seeking some happiness with Sonny? This line of thought is so bizarre that I cannot even begin to wrap my head around it. There are other reasons not to support Will's relationship with Sonny; but Will's relationship with his father is not one of them.
will lack of respect with so many people in life that so many things for him with no reason why and his respect to some should make unrootable as character and will used sonny when finally he showed he had feeling to sonny he end sleeping with gabi which make him not rootable as pairing with someone to some people
If lack of respect towards one's parents were a deciding factor in whether or not someone should be in a relationship, then there is no one on this show who should be in a relationship. Again, Will and Sonny have plenty of issues on their own without dumping on the relationship because Will isn't the perfect, loyal son to his father. The two relationships have nothing to do with each other. I take no issue with people hating on Will. In fact, hate all you want as he has done plenty to deserve it. I simply think it is ridiculous and petty to trash his relationship with Sonny because you have a beef with how you think he should treat Lucas. i did not say will lack of respect with so many people in life should no be reason for no will pairing it hust affect how you see the character it could affect willing give pairing chance or not
this proably nolagirl problem for unable to rootable to wilson
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Oct 23 2012, 04:24 PM
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The Sonny/Will/Lucas drama sounds kind of good. I like that Sonny stands up to him from the sounds of it. Lucas may just be looking out for his son depending on how it plays out. Yes, Will is an adult but he's only 18 or 19 so I suppose he's still kind of young which I keep forgetting about. Maybe his dad just doesn't want to him rush into something too fast if he's not emotionally ready (if only Lucas knew though that Will already knocked up Gabi) as it seems Will and Sonny have only been dating for a week and half now in Salem time :lol: . At least we might actually get a conversation between Sonny and Will about gay sex. I don't want to see them have sex on the first attempt any way. So glad they are getting drama with some miscommunications before they succeed. At least they are getting a build up, unlike Gabi and Nick who have gotten no build up at all which sucks because I really do like them. Though, I change my opinion on this if Will and Sonny don't get a love scene and soon.
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Oct 23 2012, 04:39 PM
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The Sonny/Will/Lucas drama sounds kind of good. I like that Sonny stands up to him from the sounds of it. Lucas may just be looking out for his son depending on how it plays out. Yes, Will is an adult but he's only 18 or 19 so I suppose he's still kind of young which I keep forgetting about. Maybe his dad just doesn't want to him rush into something too fast if he's not emotionally ready (if only Lucas knew though that Will already knocked up Gabi) as it seems Will and Sonny have only been dating for a week and half now in Salem time :lol: . At least we might actually get a conversation between Sonny and Will about gay sex. I don't want to see them have sex on the first attempt any way. So glad they are getting drama with some miscommunications before they succeed. At least they are getting a build up, unlike Gabi and Nick who have gotten no build up at all which sucks because I really do like them. Though, I change my opinion on this if Will and Sonny don't get a love scene and soon. not for lucas he could not look worse in this story especially since is the only with problem even T does not have problem with that anymore
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Oct 23 2012, 04:50 PM
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Daniel declares his love for Jennifer Rafe and Sami reveal their feelings for one another Nicole worries that Daniel may find out her secret Daniel gets ready to leave town with Nicole; Jennifer goes to Maggie for help Sami and Rafe reconnect and each confesses they still love the other. Nicole worries Daniel will learn the truth. Daniel nearly sees the other half of the twosie that Nicole unknowingly left at the hospital when she lost her baby. Jenn begs Daniel not to move to Hawaii with Nicole. Daniel blurts out his real feelings for Jenn. Rafe and Sami nearly get past their hurt and pain but EJ interrupts. Nicole barely misses seeing the incriminating twosie she left behind at the hospital. Daniel resigns and is close to uncovering the twosie. Jenn goes to Maggie for help with Daniel. Jenn and Daniel have it out. Abby learns Daniel's leaving University hospital. Daniel looks in the lost and found for a lost item of his and finds the twosie. Posted Image
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Oct 23 2012, 04:53 PM
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Will questions which other guys Sonny has had sex with. Just when I was beginning to like him again, this little piece of shit screws the fuck up. Did he forgot with who he slept with? He should tell Sonny that he banged Gabi not too long ago now that he wants to know Sonny's sexual history. What a fucking sniveling hypocrite.
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Oct 23 2012, 04:59 PM
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I'm gonna use the word 'twosie' a lot this week and see how folk react.
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Oct 23 2012, 05:04 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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So Will breaks up with Sonny because of his father? This is a complete 180! :o
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Oct 23 2012, 05:09 PM
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So Will breaks up with Sonny because of his father? This is a complete 180! :o of the things will should listen this the only that he should not so stupid
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Oct 23 2012, 05:12 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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What in the world is a twosie?
I need to call the conference line, these spoilers suck.
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Oct 23 2012, 05:18 PM
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So Will breaks up with Sonny because of his father? This is a complete 180! :o
of the things will should listen this the only that he should not so stupid I'm waiting to see this play out. Spoilers almost never play out how they sound. I have a feeling Will is more concerned with the fact that Sonny has more experience than him with other guys and he is just worried that he won't compare in bed to them. Lucas probably puts those doubts in his head when he brings up Sonny being with other guys. He just came out as being gay so it's understandable he'd feel that way. If not, Will only knows sex when it comes to relationships. With Gabi he wasn't emotionally invested for the obvious and his parents are sure no role models for teaching about the involvement of love in relationships.
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Oct 23 2012, 05:18 PM
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I personally can't get behind the Wilson pairing at this point not because I have a problem with the storyline other than the only person in Salem portrayed to have a problem is Lucas. BUT more because I think Will is a disloyal piece of shit, look at the Daysaster Sami was back with his father and HE knew it, yet still helped her go on the run with EJ (a man he hated at one time and who his father took the blame for shooting). And then showed very little emotion or empathy for Lucas being hurt by his mother yet again for other men.
What in the world does Will's relationship with or (lack of) respect for Lucas have to do with his romance with Sonny? That's like saying Sami shouldn't be in a relationship with Rafe/EJ/Lucas/whoever because of Sami's lack of respect for Marlena. It is completely nonsensical. I get that you are exceptionally bitter about Will siding with EJ over Lucas, but why should that disqualify Will from seeking some happiness with Sonny? This line of thought is so bizarre that I cannot even begin to wrap my head around it. There are other reasons not to support Will's relationship with Sonny; but Will's relationship with his father is not one of them. Notice you only took half my original post where I explained full out WHY I can't watch Will - has absolutely nothing to do with Sonny. And I did spell it all completely out. So yes my problem lies with the character of Will and for this reason I won't watch Wilson. IMHO Sonny is to good for the disloyal little shit, if he can stab so many of his family members in the back what does that say about in love interest.
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Abby learns Dan is going to leave the hospital.
let me guess. She is going to be devastated and tell him that he can't possibly leave because he saved her mother's life and he is the closest thing to a real father she has ever had. What's the bet she shows more grief at the thought of him leaving than when Jack died? :flipoff:
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So Will breaks up with Sonny because of his father? This is a complete 180! :o I think they just fight & then work it out. More whiplash plot point writing and again, at Lucas' expense. :angry: Both SAFE & WilSon keep getting all these boring 2 day angst "stories". Lame.
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Oct 23 2012, 05:22 PM
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I personally can't get behind the Wilson pairing at this point not because I have a problem with the storyline other than the only person in Salem portrayed to have a problem is Lucas. BUT more because I think Will is a disloyal piece of shit, look at the Daysaster Sami was back with his father and HE knew it, yet still helped her go on the run with EJ (a man he hated at one time and who his father took the blame for shooting). And then showed very little emotion or empathy for Lucas being hurt by his mother yet again for other men.
What in the world does Will's relationship with or (lack of) respect for Lucas have to do with his romance with Sonny? That's like saying Sami shouldn't be in a relationship with Rafe/EJ/Lucas/whoever because of Sami's lack of respect for Marlena. It is completely nonsensical. I get that you are exceptionally bitter about Will siding with EJ over Lucas, but why should that disqualify Will from seeking some happiness with Sonny? This line of thought is so bizarre that I cannot even begin to wrap my head around it. There are other reasons not to support Will's relationship with Sonny; but Will's relationship with his father is not one of them.
will lack of respect with so many people in life that so many things for him with no reason why and his respect to some should make unrootable as character and will used sonny when finally he showed he had feeling to sonny he end sleeping with gabi which make him not rootable as pairing with someone to some people
If lack of respect towards one's parents were a deciding factor in whether or not someone should be in a relationship, then there is no one on this show who should be in a relationship. Again, Will and Sonny have plenty of issues on their own without dumping on the relationship because Will isn't the perfect, loyal son to his father. The two relationships have nothing to do with each other. I take no issue with people hating on Will. In fact, hate all you want as he has done plenty to deserve it. I simply think it is ridiculous and petty to trash his relationship with Sonny because you have a beef with how you think he should treat Lucas. You really didn't read my post very well did you :'( I stated my feelings about Will and his actions toward most of his family and to some actions speak volumes on ones true personality.
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