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November Sweeps Preview; "Tomlin and Whitesell are doing the unexpected..."
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Topic Started: Oct 25 2012, 01:51 PM (34,260 Views)
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Oct 31 2012, 03:06 PM
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I wouldn't call that a real interest, though. He was flirty with everyone in 2006 lol. :wub2:
Good point, lol! Whatever, I'm just really tired of the Sami merry-go-round of suck, and I'd LOVE for Days to try something different with EJ. Abby is young, but she's not like the other younger characters, she's mature, she's smart... and I think she possesses a lot of things that would make her appealing to an older man. I think JS and KM look good together, they're both strong actors... this spoiler has made me really curious, and I'd like for Days to try them out. :wub:
I can see your point. I could support something like this IF and only if tptb gave a REAL shot to Ejami first...which would mean EJ NOT on the Sami-go-round...but just Ejami. Ejami has never really happened, and until it does EJ will always wonder "what if" about him and Sami. They need to go down that road, with a real and true and intentionally Ejami-focused story...not a story where Sami is pining after Lucas or Rafe while she's with EJ, but one where Sami really lets herself go into the relationship with EJ. If tptb do that, I think Ejami will fly like nothing we've ever seen. But if I'm wrong and they sink, THEN I'll gladly consider other options, like Ejabby. But wouldn't that be Sami written out of character? Doesn't something always go wrong.
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Oct 31 2012, 03:08 PM
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"Abigail and EJ bond over their losses." Is this seriously what Ejabby shippers are getting excited about? This little spoiler? Sorry, but the idea of EJ with Abby (of all people) just makes me :lol: Besides the fact that I'll never accept EJ with anyone else until Ejami are given a real shot...if they had to pick someone else, pick a grown up for cryin' out loud! Hope, Chloe, Jennifer even! But a KID like Abby? TOO funny.
Actually Abby is more mature then a lot of the "adults" on the show. And James did refer to Kate as hot in an interview, seems to me if he considered her just a kid he wouldn't have said that. I honestly don't see a big deal over a 9 year age difference. Really most of my favorite couples are 10-15 years apart. :shrug:
JS isn't EJ, though, and I don't remember EJ ever taking a real interest in a much younger woman
Which is all the more reason he should. ;) Days is in dire need of fresh new storylines. Actually, I've seen enough insta-hookups to last a lifetime. No way am I about to encourage Days by jumping on a bandwagon for two characters who've shared less than a handful of mundane scenes and who have nothing in common whatsoever when I previously complained about the way the show handled dansea, bradison, gack, brianna, ejaylor... I could go on and on.
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He was actually pretty flirty with her when he met her in 2006.
I wouldn't call that a real interest, though. He was flirty with everyone in 2006 lol. :wub2:
Good point, lol! Whatever, I'm just really tired of the Sami merry-go-round of suck, and I'd LOVE for Days to try something different with EJ. Abby is young, but she's not like the other younger characters, she's mature, she's smart... and I think she possesses a lot of things that would make her appealing to an older man. I think JS and KM look good together, they're both strong actors... this spoiler has made me really curious, and I'd like for Days to try them out. :wub: Well, I like ejami and Sami most of the time, so I'm not quite ready to see the merry go round end until it stops at the story I want to see lol, but I agree that ejabby could be interesting, but it's way too soon for me to want to seriously encourage Days to go there. IDEK if they have chemistry yet; they do look good together and the banners some folks are using are beautiful, but Days has a very attractive cast and nearly everyone looks good together, imo.
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Oct 31 2012, 03:11 PM
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Good point, lol! Whatever, I'm just really tired of the Sami merry-go-round of suck, and I'd LOVE for Days to try something different with EJ. Abby is young, but she's not like the other younger characters, she's mature, she's smart... and I think she possesses a lot of things that would make her appealing to an older man. I think JS and KM look good together, they're both strong actors... this spoiler has made me really curious, and I'd like for Days to try them out. :wub:
I can see your point. I could support something like this IF and only if tptb gave a REAL shot to Ejami first...which would mean EJ NOT on the Sami-go-round...but just Ejami. Ejami has never really happened, and until it does EJ will always wonder "what if" about him and Sami. They need to go down that road, with a real and true and intentionally Ejami-focused story...not a story where Sami is pining after Lucas or Rafe while she's with EJ, but one where Sami really lets herself go into the relationship with EJ. If tptb do that, I think Ejami will fly like nothing we've ever seen. But if I'm wrong and they sink, THEN I'll gladly consider other options, like Ejabby.
But wouldn't that be Sami written out of character? Doesn't something always go wrong. Things don't go wrong, because that's in character for Sami. They go wrong because someone behind the scenes is reluctant to really do the story.
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Oct 31 2012, 03:28 PM
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Well, I like ejami and Sami most of the time, so I'm not quite ready to see the merry go round end until it stops at the story I want to see lol, but I agree that ejabby could be interesting, but it's way too soon for me to want to seriously encourage Days to go there. IDEK if they have chemistry yet; they do look good together and the banners some folks are using are beautiful, but Days has a very attractive cast and nearly everyone looks good together, imo.
Pretty much all this. I have no idea if I'd like Ejabby because I've never seen them together. The actors are certainly pretty and I like both characters, so that's a point in their favor. But I also have a hard time thinking of how they'd write Ejabby in a way that I'd find compelling. Abby comes off as too earnest to have an antagonstic, but sexy dynamic with a bad boy like EJ, and EJ is too sleezy to realistically have a genuine dynamic with a wide-eyed innocent like Abby (see the Ejaylor mess). I think the actors could mesh well, but I can't see how the characters would, at least as they are currently written.
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Oct 31 2012, 03:43 PM
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Eric's Return: Eric returns to Salem just in time for Thanksgiving. Corday says they brought him back because they wanted another character in his age range on the show and they wanted to give Nicole a front-burner story. (For those unaware, Eric is one of Nicole's many exes.)
Im just wondering how long its gonna take for Nicole to persuade Eric to leave the church??
I just cant figure out how you can be a photographer one day and a priest the next? Anywho!
Eric could be the hottest priest Ive ever seen..A whole lot better than Pa Walton, LOL (Father Matt)
Funny part about these spoilers is all the better storylines that could have been. Get Kristen out of her back to causing trouble for Jarlena, she could have started out with that agenda but how about instead we already know there's gonna be a Kristen/Brady angle. How about Kristen versus Nicole with Brady in the middle. Nicole see's what Kristen's doing with Brady and is determined to help him away from the DiMera's as he tried to help her. Kristen versus Niicole so much better acting than the mess they are starting and using Nicole in this would make some of the best scenes with two bad bitches of Salem in a square off. Brady actually gets an interesting storyline as long as neither woman gets killed. :'( And for once Nicole would actually be the good bitch, if bitches can be good. (oh wait there's Sami reference again :'( ) EJami - sorry but this story has been beat to death, there is no story. If they want/need to have these two in each others orbit make it EJ causing trouble for them as usual but not invested in Sami romantically. Find EJ someone new because honestly he's treated Nicole so badly with the pathetic yet again chasing of Sami's twat that he needs fresh start with someone, Gaby (could have been good with another actress) mainly to stick it to Safe, or bring Arianna back from the dead. They had chemistry and that would play out very interesting. Dannifer the only saving of this couple (which I still can't buy) would be for Lawrence's return. He never truly died and now that Carly's gone he wants revenge on Daniel so he rapes Jennifer. Then maybe I could actually root for them because they now have a true villan to fight, doubt I'd ever love Dannifer but give them a true obstacle would be good and Lawrence has bad blood with both. Oh well the writers aren't smart enough for this, so why bother thinking about it. :shrug: I always wondered why TIIC didn't bring Lawrence or Nicolas to avenge Carly & Dan's fling. They could of had Lawrence only presumed dead & up to no good. I wouldn't mind seeing a revengeful EJ bringing Chloe back to Salem to cause trouble for Dannifer
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Oct 31 2012, 03:46 PM
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i not sure if on boardon abby and ej because days cable to ruin it and end up short time romance i do not want abby just to short time thing
but really wtf it be out of character to hook up ej and abby and yet with sami it would not out of character sami most of years on show not easily forgive and forger and hold grudge for years and yet she bursh off bad things ej did to her like nothing just only to tease ej and sami it
its such bs
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Oct 31 2012, 04:47 PM
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Actually, it's a difference of opinion.
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Oct 31 2012, 05:31 PM
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"Abigail and EJ bond over their losses." Is this seriously what Ejabby shippers are getting excited about? This little spoiler? Sorry, but the idea of EJ with Abby (of all people) just makes me :lol: Besides the fact that I'll never accept EJ with anyone else until Ejami are given a real shot...if they had to pick someone else, pick a grown up for cryin' out loud! Hope, Chloe, Jennifer even! But a KID like Abby? TOO funny.
Actually Abby is more mature then a lot of the "adults" on the show. And James did refer to Kate as hot in an interview, seems to me if he considered her just a kid he wouldn't have said that. I honestly don't see a big deal over a 9 year age difference. Really most of my favorite couples are 10-15 years apart. :shrug:
JS isn't EJ, though, and I don't remember EJ ever taking a real interest in a much younger woman I think the premise that was originally proposed is that EJ would turn his focus on Abby not for romantic reasons but to make Jennifer somehow pay for wronging him by going after her daughter. The notion was that he would toy with Abby like a cat with a mouse (and maybe at some point develop actual feelings for her (although that's not a given.))
As I said in a previous post, to me, the comparison is similar to Jennifer and Lawrence Alamain, who manipulated and toyed with her for months. He was never shown to have real feelings for her (because he was obsessed with Carly), but we got a lot of creepy, intense scenes between the two of them. He was supposedly 2 years older than Jack, so about 9 years older than Jennifer at the time. He seemed much older and more worldly than her and she was totally outside her league in trying to deal with him.
There was no internet back then, but I can only imagine that there were some people who "shipped" Lawrence and Jennifer in their earlier pre-rape encounters. I was not one of them. But I can see now that it set up a good, angsty story.
I have no faith in these writers to do any kind of justice to this type of thing now.
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Oct 31 2012, 07:04 PM
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Imo, it its wrong for a seasoned mature man to be involved with a young impressionable girl. Abby is a baby compared to ej. Ew ew ew!!!
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Did anyone see the gangnam dancing clip? I think Rafe and Abby should be the new couple. They would be so hot! And you know, as soon as EJ shares a bonding moment with Abigail, Rafe is sure to be attracted to her. Who's starting the board?
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Oct 31 2012, 09:58 PM
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Did anyone see the gangnam dancing clip? I think Rafe and Abby should be the new couple. They would be so hot! And you know, as soon as EJ shares a bonding moment with Abigail, Rafe is sure to be attracted to her. Who's starting the board? There is nothing in the gangnam dancing clip to convince me that Rafe should be hooked up with anyone let alone Abby.
Let Daniel and Rafe squabble over Jen Jen.
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Oct 31 2012, 10:12 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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Imo, it its wrong for a seasoned mature man to be involved with a young impressionable girl. Abby is a baby compared to ej. Ew ew ew!!! She is much more mature looking than Gabby or Melanie. :shrug:
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Oct 31 2012, 10:19 PM
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IDK. I really think I'm done with DAYS. It's sad. I just don't care right now. The show deserves to be better. This is an interesting comment. Do they really deserve to be better? I think they've screwed themselves, they deserve whatever negative evolves from that, imho.
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Oct 31 2012, 10:29 PM
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Did anyone see the gangnam dancing clip? I think Rafe and Abby should be the new couple. They would be so hot! And you know, as soon as EJ shares a bonding moment with Abigail, Rafe is sure to be attracted to her. Who's starting the board?
There is nothing in the gangnam dancing clip to convince me that Rafe should be hooked up with anyone let alone Abby. Let Daniel and Rafe squabble over Jen Jen. I think the only ones that I can accept Rafe with are either Nicole or Carrie.
I'm worried that Rafe & Hope are coming soon. :scared:
I love CAUSTIN, but I wish we could see more with Carrie and Rafe!
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Nov 1 2012, 12:15 AM
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IDK. I really think I'm done with DAYS. It's sad. I just don't care right now. The show deserves to be better.
This is an interesting comment. Do they really deserve to be better? I think they've screwed themselves, they deserve whatever negative evolves from that, imho. You are are correct. The show at this point does not deserve to be better. It would be in the best interest of Sony/NBC to listen to the fans for once if they truly want the show to survive. But I don't think they do IMO. TPTB need to hire a writer like Shari Anderson who really knows and has studied the history of Days. Hell, I could do a better job than the idiots who are at the helm now. And I truly believe that. Tomilin and Whitesell are hideous writers. They proved that in 2010 and we have to experience it all over again in 2012. The only difference now is that Days has lost thousands of viewers and its sure to get worse. Nothing's seems to work by pleading to tptb, so by turning off the TV results in the end of Days, then so be it. And this is a fan who has watched for almost 30 years. So utterly sad.
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Nov 1 2012, 12:45 AM
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IDK. I really think I'm done with DAYS. It's sad. I just don't care right now. The show deserves to be better.
This is an interesting comment. Do they really deserve to be better? I think they've screwed themselves, they deserve whatever negative evolves from that, imho. I guess my take on it is that the show as it once was deserves better than it's now getting from this current bunch of executives. While it's not exactly a national treasure, a show that's been around as long as this one does have a place in our culture that is larger than they realize. As far as I'm concerned, they should view themselves as caretakers of a legacy that was handed down to them. However, while they have exploited it, abused it, mutilated it, and sucked it dry, they have NOT taken care of it. So while the show deserves better, these executives decidedly do not. For some reason, Corday is fixated on getting to fifty years, but he doesn't seem to give a flip about the show itself, which is now only a shell of what it once was (and what it could be).
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IDK. I really think I'm done with DAYS. It's sad. I just don't care right now. The show deserves to be better. I've adjusted to current DAYS and I am enjoying it.
But I went a few years where I was MEH about it and did not watch.
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Imo, it its wrong for a seasoned mature man to be involved with a young impressionable girl. Abby is a baby compared to ej. Ew ew ew!!! I don't know....this was Jack and Jennifer to a tee when they started. Jen was very young and a virgin, and Jack a more seasoned, mature man that did a very bad thing in his past. I know they were not everyone's cup of tea but they are my favorite. Not that EJ and Abby could probably ever come close but I would be up for it, if done right. I can totally see that scenario of EJ wanting to use Abby, but then falling for her for real. I would love to see that.
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Imo, it its wrong for a seasoned mature man to be involved with a young impressionable girl. Abby is a baby compared to ej. Ew ew ew!!!
I don't know....this was Jack and Jennifer to a tee when they started. Jen was very young and a virgin, and Jack a more seasoned, mature man that did a very bad thing in his past. I know they were not everyone's cup of tea but they are my favorite. Not that EJ and Abby could probably ever come close but I would be up for it, if done right. I can totally see that scenario of EJ wanting to use Abby, but then falling for her for real. I would love to see that. TPTB can't write a modern J&J story. Look at what they did to the original J&J!
J&J took years. And a lot of it was based on the slow redemption of Jack Devereaux. The rape wasn't just brushed under the rug, like all the many current crimes in Salem now. Except the rape of Jennifer that was conveniently forgotten after the overly hokey J&J rodeo wedding. That's when I stopped watching as a little girl. Even as a youth, I recognized that J&J didn't feel right anymore. They went from being a unique complicated couple with witty banter and delicious angst - to slapstick or something generic. I didnt know about regime changes then, but something felt wrong, the sparkle left, and I stopped watching. The building of a super couple takes time, character cohesiveness, and respect to history and consequences that this regime lacks.
A couple decades later, I tuned back in and got sucked into ejami vs ejole1. I loved the fake marriage between Ejami and the jealousy/rivalry between Sami and Nicole. I hadn't watched the original Ejami or their car rape scene. I just knew that Sami protested too much and Ejami were hot. :P And I knew that EJ and Nicole had heat as well. I didn't like that Nicole played such a doormat to EJ or that she had sex with him after he called her by another name. But the chemistry between the actors was still riveting to watch. And I liked the real friendship they seemed to be building.
But now, after all the trashing both couples have gotten. I've lost interest in both Ejami and Ejole. They've just done too many disgusting things to one another. I may be able to get behind Ejole again, because I think their sins against one another are slightly less disgusting than what Ejami have done to one another. And because Nicole has had such a horribly abusive childhood and past, I can try to make myself justify why/how she could still love a man who constantly cheats on her and takes her for granted. But the saddest thing is that I can't really root for EJ getting anyone anymore. The actor is still hot and charismatic, but I can't wish him on any woman. All the terrible writing and clumsy regime changes have destroyed him as a romantic lead for me. And I don't think this regime can redeem him.
Why should I tune into a show when all the couples disgust me? When there is nobody I can really root for? The couples/characters that aren't disgusting still aren't fleshed out enough to be remotely interesting. I hope to tune back in one day after T/W are fired, MR is off contract, and hopefully Nicole/Eric haven't been so trashed that they have hope of building a really compelling love story. I never watched the original Nicole/Eric, but I've read AZ thinks Eric was Nicole's true love - so I hope TPTB don't fuck it up. GV isn't as good of an actor as AZ, but he's pretty and better than most of the other current leading men. And AZ can create chemistry with a lamp post - so here's to hoping. IMHO they are the only hope I have left for this show.
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Nov 1 2012, 08:27 AM
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Eric's Return: Eric returns to Salem just in time for Thanksgiving. Corday says they brought him back because they wanted another character in his age range on the show and they wanted to give Nicole a front-burner story. (For those unaware, Eric is one of Nicole's many exes.)
Im just wondering how long its gonna take for Nicole to persuade Eric to leave the church??
I just cant figure out how you can be a photographer one day and a priest the next? Anywho!
Eric could be the hottest priest Ive ever seen..A whole lot better than Pa Walton, LOL (Father Matt)
Funny part about these spoilers is all the better storylines that could have been. Get Kristen out of her back to causing trouble for Jarlena, she could have started out with that agenda but how about instead we already know there's gonna be a Kristen/Brady angle. How about Kristen versus Nicole with Brady in the middle. Nicole see's what Kristen's doing with Brady and is determined to help him away from the DiMera's as he tried to help her. Kristen versus Niicole so much better acting than the mess they are starting and using Nicole in this would make some of the best scenes with two bad bitches of Salem in a square off. Brady actually gets an interesting storyline as long as neither woman gets killed. :'( And for once Nicole would actually be the good bitch, if bitches can be good. (oh wait there's Sami reference again :'( ) EJami - sorry but this story has been beat to death, there is no story. If they want/need to have these two in each others orbit make it EJ causing trouble for them as usual but not invested in Sami romantically. Find EJ someone new because honestly he's treated Nicole so badly with the pathetic yet again chasing of Sami's twat that he needs fresh start with someone, Gaby (could have been good with another actress) mainly to stick it to Safe, or bring Arianna back from the dead. They had chemistry and that would play out very interesting. Dannifer the only saving of this couple (which I still can't buy) would be for Lawrence's return. He never truly died and now that Carly's gone he wants revenge on Daniel so he rapes Jennifer. Then maybe I could actually root for them because they now have a true villan to fight, doubt I'd ever love Dannifer but give them a true obstacle would be good and Lawrence has bad blood with both. Oh well the writers aren't smart enough for this, so why bother thinking about it. :shrug:
Trying to re-tell one of J&J's most memorable stories with Dannifer (Lawrence vs J&J and Jennifer's rape) would just make me hate them more (plus these two could never sell angst the way J&J did and a big fat no to Jennifer getting raped to try and make Dannifer rootable). There is NO story for them that would ever make me root for them or even tolerate them. That's pretty much why I started by saying I doubt there is any BUT what I was referring to is give them a real obstacle instead of butchering an existing character to try and give them a story. At least with Lawrence coming back he has a problem with Daniel (Carly sleeping with him and getting pregnant with Melanie) and then Jennifer is with said heroic saviour Doctor gives him reason enoughto go after her. As for a rape I don't really care one way or the other if he rapes her, or just plain scares the shit out of her. I truly don't care for either of them and honestly I'd be rooting for Lawrence. And Lawrence was a true villian and that could at least give them some leway with EJ and Stefano NOT always being the bad cartoonish villians Tomlin's seems to try and make them.
Actually I just want to see Dannifer suffer some but then again, I could say that for all the favored pets. And Lawrence's return let's face it on vets returning unless they made him a nice guy they truly couldn't butcher his character as they have others. :P
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