supercool74

Nov 15 2012, 03:19 AM

ScorpioQueen

Nov 15 2012, 02:19 AM

Will&Sonny

Nov 15 2012, 02:03 AM

There have already been several subtle hints (that could easily be missed or dismissed, but were there nevertheless) that Nick still has that obsessive nature that he previously had. The most recent (before Thursday's episode, anyway) was when he declared his love for Gabi, and she said that she felt the same way. To most people, that probably would have been enough, but Nick had to hear the actual words, "I love you."

It's also clear that Nick gets pissed off every time Will and Sonny are around -- Gabi thinks that it's just because of Nick's feelings about gay people, but (to me, anyway) it's obvious that Nick is also annoyed whenever Gabi's attention is not focused entirely on him.

Just speculation on my part at this point, but as far as I'm concerned, Nick hasn't changed -- he's still unbalanced, and it's only a matter of time before that part of his personality fully emerges again.

Yeah, speculation indeed.

I don't think him wanting hear her say she loves him means he's obsessive again. I'd want to hear it from my SO too. Nick getting pissed off whenever WilSon are around is a big reach. He's genuinely uncomfortable around them. It's got nothing to do with Gabi and not much to do with WilSon themselves for that matter. Nick explicitly said it's his issue.

I don't know...Nick seemed awfully pissed to me, not uncomfortable. When Will says he needed Gabi's help Nick says "typical". What?! How is that typical? Since when does he act like that towards Will? He acted like Will was a big jerk, and like he's always been one. I thought they were cousins and that he loved Will. He didn't act that way here. I got a jealous vibe from he as well. I think he's going to go crazy when he hears she got knocked up by Will. I hate it because I really like sweet Nick. Don't like him when he acts like this.

lumifan4life

Nov 15 2012, 08:35 AM

supercool74

Nov 15 2012, 03:19 AM

ScorpioQueen

Nov 15 2012, 02:19 AM

Will&Sonny

Nov 15 2012, 02:03 AM

There have already been several subtle hints (that could easily be missed or dismissed, but were there nevertheless) that Nick still has that obsessive nature that he previously had. The most recent (before Thursday's episode, anyway) was when he declared his love for Gabi, and she said that she felt the same way. To most people, that probably would have been enough, but Nick had to hear the actual words, "I love you."

It's also clear that Nick gets pissed off every time Will and Sonny are around -- Gabi thinks that it's just because of Nick's feelings about gay people, but (to me, anyway) it's obvious that Nick is also annoyed whenever Gabi's attention is not focused entirely on him.

Just speculation on my part at this point, but as far as I'm concerned, Nick hasn't changed -- he's still unbalanced, and it's only a matter of time before that part of his personality fully emerges again.

Yeah, speculation indeed.

I don't think him wanting hear her say she loves him means he's obsessive again. I'd want to hear it from my SO too. Nick getting pissed off whenever WilSon are around is a big reach. He's genuinely uncomfortable around them. It's got nothing to do with Gabi and not much to do with WilSon themselves for that matter. Nick explicitly said it's his issue.

I don't know...Nick seemed awfully pissed to me, not uncomfortable. When Will says he needed Gabi's help Nick says "typical". What?! How is that typical? Since when does he act like that towards Will? He acted like Will was a big jerk, and like he's always been one. I thought they were cousins and that he loved Will. He didn't act that way here. I got a jealous vibe from he as well. I think he's going to go crazy when he hears she got knocked up by Will. I hate it because I really like sweet Nick. Don't like him when he acts like this.

Seriously this is way more than Nick just being uncomfortable. He's being an outright homophobic bigoted jerk to Will who is his cousin and history wise, he has no reason whatsoever to hate. But he hates him and that's pretty clear. Today's scenes alone show that Nick can't stand him and hates the fact that Gabi is hanging out with him. The fact that he's jealous because Gabi confided in Will and is working on a school project with him screams instability and borderline psychotic behaviour. He knows Will is gay so there should be no reason for Nick to be jealous or insecure or possessive over Gabi. I agree that Nick is going to go right over the edge when he finds out this is Will's baby. Whether he reacts impulsively or is more calculated about it, we'll see. But he's going to do something and it's not going to be pretty.

LuvingLumi

Nov 15 2012, 08:46 AM

lumifan4life

Nov 15 2012, 08:35 AM

supercool74

Nov 15 2012, 03:19 AM

ScorpioQueen

Nov 15 2012, 02:19 AM

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I don't know...Nick seemed awfully pissed to me, not uncomfortable. When Will says he needed Gabi's help Nick says "typical". What?! How is that typical? Since when does he act like that towards Will? He acted like Will was a big jerk, and like he's always been one. I thought they were cousins and that he loved Will. He didn't act that way here. I got a jealous vibe from he as well. I think he's going to go crazy when he hears she got knocked up by Will. I hate it because I really like sweet Nick. Don't like him when he acts like this.

Seriously this is way more than Nick just being uncomfortable. He's being an outright homophobic bigoted jerk to Will who is his cousin and history wise, he has no reason whatsoever to hate. But he hates him and that's pretty clear. Today's scenes alone show that Nick can't stand him and hates the fact that Gabi is hanging out with him. The fact that he's jealous because Gabi confided in Will and is working on a school project with him screams instability and borderline psychotic behaviour. He knows Will is gay so there should be no reason for Nick to be jealous or insecure or possessive over Gabi. I agree that Nick is going to go right over the edge when he finds out this is Will's baby. Whether he reacts impulsively or is more calculated about it, we'll see. But he's going to do something and it's not going to be pretty.

I think it's two parts with Nick...he's definitely uncomfortable every time he sees Will and Sonny because of his views on gays...but he's also showing some signs of jealousy toward the friendship that Will has with Gabi. He's being written more and more as obsessive over Gabi. I have to say if this dynamic continues after he finds out about Gabi's baby being Will's then it could cause some real drama for the Hortons and I couldn't be more glad that at least the focus will be on two cousins that are Hortons over any other family.

lumifan4life

Nov 15 2012, 09:00 AM

LuvingLumi

Nov 15 2012, 08:46 AM

lumifan4life

Nov 15 2012, 08:35 AM

supercool74

Nov 15 2012, 03:19 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

Seriously this is way more than Nick just being uncomfortable. He's being an outright homophobic bigoted jerk to Will who is his cousin and history wise, he has no reason whatsoever to hate. But he hates him and that's pretty clear. Today's scenes alone show that Nick can't stand him and hates the fact that Gabi is hanging out with him. The fact that he's jealous because Gabi confided in Will and is working on a school project with him screams instability and borderline psychotic behaviour. He knows Will is gay so there should be no reason for Nick to be jealous or insecure or possessive over Gabi. I agree that Nick is going to go right over the edge when he finds out this is Will's baby. Whether he reacts impulsively or is more calculated about it, we'll see. But he's going to do something and it's not going to be pretty.

I think it's two parts with Nick...he's definitely uncomfortable every time he sees Will and Sonny because of his views on gays...but he's also showing some signs of jealousy toward the friendship that Will has with Gabi. He's being written more and more as obsessive over Gabi. I have to say if this dynamic continues after he finds out about Gabi's baby being Will's then it could cause some real drama for the Hortons and I couldn't be more glad that at least the focus will be on two cousins that are Hortons over any other family.

I also think it's interesting that this seems to be leading up to some sort of feud between Horton cousins. Whose side will the Hortons take now? It's one thing when they were all on Nick's side when it came to releasing him from prison for what he did to Melanie. But what happens when he ends up hurting another Horton? Either Will or Will's baby? Then I have a feeling Nick is toast.

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I also think it's interesting that this seems to be leading up to some sort of feud between Horton cousins. Whose side will the Hortons take now? It's one thing when they were all on Nick's side when it came to releasing him from prison for what he did to Melanie. But what happens when he ends up hurting another Horton? Either Will or Will's baby? Then I have a feeling Nick is toast.

Dreamer

Nov 15 2012, 01:51 PM

I like Nick's protectiveness of Gabi and Will's lying capabilities.
Nick is not stupid... he sees that something else is going on betn them......alll While John is portrayed as a mindless fuck... thinking Kristen is pure, true and changed. LOL, that comparison is glaring.

cord08

Nov 15 2012, 11:54 AM

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I also think it's interesting that this seems to be leading up to some sort of feud between Horton cousins. Whose side will the Hortons take now? It's one thing when they were all on Nick's side when it came to releasing him from prison for what he did to Melanie. But what happens when he ends up hurting another Horton? Either Will or Will's baby? Then I have a feeling Nick is toast.

This doesn't surprise me. BB signed a six-month contract with the possibility for an extension. He started filming in May, so November would be six months. That's not to say that he wouldn't be extended for a longer period, but that does probably make him a bit more expendable in the writers' eyes. Personally, I like BB and think he adds something to the younger group even if Nick's beliefs/actions aren't always agreeable.

guessgirl

Nov 15 2012, 02:15 PM

Dreamer

Nov 15 2012, 01:51 PM

I like Nick's protectiveness of Gabi and Will's lying capabilities.
Nick is not stupid... he sees that something else is going on betn them......alll While John is portrayed as a mindless fuck... thinking Kristen is pure, true and changed. LOL, that comparison is glaring.

IA Nick defintely knew there was more going on than the lame "class project" excuse that was given by them. He's not stupid and very intuitive. And yes John was a total idiot defending Kristen. I wanted to throw something at him.

BalscoFan5

Nov 15 2012, 01:15 PM

Jennifer isn't my favorite person right now,but she should tell Kristen to take a long walk off a short pier for what Kritter did to Jack and her mother.

esp13

Nov 14 2012, 11:17 PM

I don't really think the Daniel/Jen stuff is moving too fast. I could buy that if Jennifer and Daniel had not had a relationship prior to Jack's return. And I might even buy it if there had been a real break-up between Jennifer and Daniel when Jack did return. But there wasn't. However much people might hate it, it was written in a particular way -- namely that Daniel backed off and Jen decided to make things work with Jack. But it was never written that Jennifer stopped caring about Daniel or that he stopped caring about her.

So, now that Jack is gone, it's not surprising that the feelings are still there between Jennifer and Daniel. I understand people wanting to see Jen mourn Jack more, but he's already died several times, so it's not surprising to me that she can move through the grief quicker than most. And I don't think it's unreasonable that the people who know her best understand both of those things.

None of which is to say that they are a well-written or popular couple. Only that I don't find the whole thing that unbelievable.

Guinevere

Nov 15 2012, 03:53 PM

^This is my problem too. Also everyone is saying her feelings for Daniel never went away. What about the feelings she had for Jack before he came back? We are to believe the second she signed her name to divorce papers 20+ years worth of feelings went away forever..yet she doesn't speak with Daniel in 6 months - after a brief relationship a year earlier and those are the ones she can't shake? This is where I have a problem with believing this "love" between Dannifer. I agree Jack's death was really not needed because them breaking up amicably instead of him dying wouldn't make her look like a fickle woman who can't go 5 minutes without a man - even when she's supposed to be in mourning. Why do they keep trying and trying to push her into new relationships and trying to make each one some epic love story as though the previous 20 years of her life never existed. It's possible to love someone else after a great love - but this is not it.

BalscoFan5

Nov 15 2012, 06:34 PM

"Older sister",Sami,you and Eric are twins,your like a minute older.

guessgirl

Nov 15 2012, 02:15 PM

Dreamer

Nov 15 2012, 01:51 PM

I like Nick's protectiveness of Gabi and Will's lying capabilities.
Nick is not stupid... he sees that something else is going on betn them......alll While John is portrayed as a mindless fuck... thinking Kristen is pure, true and changed. LOL, that comparison is glaring.

IA Nick defintely knew there was more going on than the lame "class project" excuse that was given by them. He's not stupid and very intuitive. And yes John was a total idiot defending Kristen. I wanted to throw something at him.

Bright Eyes

Nov 15 2012, 06:37 PM

BalscoFan5

Nov 15 2012, 06:34 PM

"Older sister",Sami,you and Eric are twins,your like a minute older.

That gave me a :blink: face, too.