ladyofthelake

Nov 19 2012, 10:45 PM

I really really really really really really really really want more Sami and Daniel. Really. The world revolves around them. They are DAYS! Forget the good actors. Bring on the orange!

dc cubs

Nov 20 2012, 05:09 PM

In regards to feedback, did Days stop doing those electronic surveys? I haven't seen one posted here in awhile.

SocRMum1

Nov 20 2012, 11:02 AM

lysie

Nov 20 2012, 01:01 AM

I don't necessarily think it's true that tptb only go by which characters are being discussed. Shelle got a lot of good and bad discussion and they had no problem dumping them. Also, if you're wanting to do reverse psychology, then don't mention the characters you hate at all. Continuing to talk about them just in a different way isn't going to help and is pretty transparent.

While I think it's great TPTB are checking this site (and any others) for fan feedback at the end of the day it's just one of the aspects they consider when developing stories. And because of the super advanced shooting schedule it's difficult to see any sort of immediate reaction to stories. So while they probably get a good idea as to which characters generate discussion (good or bad) I don't know that what we say here (or elsewhere) really impacts the story direction because it's already three months ahead of what we're seeing.

With that said, though - I have to think it's pretty easy to pick out biases and take those posts with a grain of salt (mine included). If they see posters sporting banners featuring pairings they love and ripping apart any 'interlopers' to their potential happiness then it's probably a good bet they sense an agenda. Or when they see a post that starts off with a statement like "this makes me glad I'm no longer watching this show" it's probably not all that likely they go on to read what the poster thinks about an episode or story they've already said they haven't watched.

It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall as the PR team is perusing the internet and reading some of our posts here and elsewhere, though. I'd love to know if they crack up at some of the same posts I do or just roll their eyes and move on. :laugh:

annie21

Nov 20 2012, 09:42 PM

Well, we know they ditched the Jack/Jennifer/Daniel triangle last year and sidelined the actors. That started happening as early as November and soon after we heard about re-writes and possible re-shoots. So things can happen. It's possiblle, for example, to re-edit what's already been shot to snip out certain scenes while extending others. Not easy, but possible.

As for this latest round, I'm going to take to heart the fact that none of the publicity surrounding November sweeps pushed the Dannifer pairing, even though it was pimped on our screens almost every day. The scenes were taped back in July-August, but the publicity was put together more recently. And not only was Dannifer not played up in either of the two promos, it wasn't listed in Corday's summary preview of upcoming storylines. Even though they have already taped it, it's possible they're already re-thinking the pairing and are looking for ways to downplay it. Perhaps the recent tweets from the show asking about the Dannifer pairing and asking what Jennifer should do were part of that awakening.

Yes, I know I'm grasping at straws and I know it's a long shot. If Tomlin had his way, he would continue to push one of his favorite pairings no matter what. But I'm just hoping that he's no longer having his way on this matter.

annie21

Nov 21 2012, 10:45 AM

SocRMum1

Nov 20 2012, 11:02 AM

lysie

Nov 20 2012, 01:01 AM

I don't necessarily think it's true that tptb only go by which characters are being discussed. Shelle got a lot of good and bad discussion and they had no problem dumping them. Also, if you're wanting to do reverse psychology, then don't mention the characters you hate at all. Continuing to talk about them just in a different way isn't going to help and is pretty transparent.

While I think it's great TPTB are checking this site (and any others) for fan feedback at the end of the day it's just one of the aspects they consider when developing stories. And because of the super advanced shooting schedule it's difficult to see any sort of immediate reaction to stories. So while they probably get a good idea as to which characters generate discussion (good or bad) I don't know that what we say here (or elsewhere) really impacts the story direction because it's already three months ahead of what we're seeing.

With that said, though - I have to think it's pretty easy to pick out biases and take those posts with a grain of salt (mine included). If they see posters sporting banners featuring pairings they love and ripping apart any 'interlopers' to their potential happiness then it's probably a good bet they sense an agenda. Or when they see a post that starts off with a statement like "this makes me glad I'm no longer watching this show" it's probably not all that likely they go on to read what the poster thinks about an episode or story they've already said they haven't watched.

It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall as the PR team is perusing the internet and reading some of our posts here and elsewhere, though. I'd love to know if they crack up at some of the same posts I do or just roll their eyes and move on. :laugh:

Re: bolded... while I understand what you're saying, I would think that getting information about former (and perhaps future) viewers would be exactly a key reason why Days would want to cruise message boards like this one. I mean, shouldn't they be curious as to why so many people care about the show enough to read and comment about it but not to want to actually watch it?

If I were selling a product that used to be popular but has been losing customers for years, I'd want to find out not only about the current customer base but also learn why so many other customers stopped buying my product.

Days has a huge potential audience that they're just not bothering to tap. Meanwhile, GH did some research, found a writer who actually cares about the show, and made the changes that are bringing lapsed viewers back. They're proving that it can be done.

Matt

Nov 21 2012, 11:11 AM

I've actually been really enjoying TomSell for the most part & I hope they continue because I'm interested in seeing where their stories go.

Matt

Nov 21 2012, 11:11 AM

I've actually been really enjoying TomSell for the most part & I hope they continue because I'm interested in seeing where their stories go.

annie21

Nov 21 2012, 10:45 AM

SocRMum1

Nov 20 2012, 11:02 AM

lysie

Nov 20 2012, 01:01 AM

I don't necessarily think it's true that tptb only go by which characters are being discussed. Shelle got a lot of good and bad discussion and they had no problem dumping them. Also, if you're wanting to do reverse psychology, then don't mention the characters you hate at all. Continuing to talk about them just in a different way isn't going to help and is pretty transparent.

While I think it's great TPTB are checking this site (and any others) for fan feedback at the end of the day it's just one of the aspects they consider when developing stories. And because of the super advanced shooting schedule it's difficult to see any sort of immediate reaction to stories. So while they probably get a good idea as to which characters generate discussion (good or bad) I don't know that what we say here (or elsewhere) really impacts the story direction because it's already three months ahead of what we're seeing.

With that said, though - I have to think it's pretty easy to pick out biases and take those posts with a grain of salt (mine included). If they see posters sporting banners featuring pairings they love and ripping apart any 'interlopers' to their potential happiness then it's probably a good bet they sense an agenda. Or when they see a post that starts off with a statement like "this makes me glad I'm no longer watching this show" it's probably not all that likely they go on to read what the poster thinks about an episode or story they've already said they haven't watched.

It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall as the PR team is perusing the internet and reading some of our posts here and elsewhere, though. I'd love to know if they crack up at some of the same posts I do or just roll their eyes and move on. :laugh:

Re: bolded... while I understand what you're saying, I would think that getting information about former (and perhaps future) viewers would be exactly a key reason why Days would want to cruise message boards like this one. I mean, shouldn't they be curious as to why so many people care about the show enough to read and comment about it but not to want to actually watch it?

If I were selling a product that used to be popular but has been losing customers for years, I'd want to find out not only about the current customer base but also learn why so many other customers stopped buying my product.

Days has a huge potential audience that they're just not bothering to tap. Meanwhile, GH did some research, found a writer who actually cares about the show, and made the changes that are bringing lapsed viewers back. They're proving that it can be done.

Matt

Nov 21 2012, 11:11 AM

I've actually been really enjoying TomSell for the most part & I hope they continue because I'm interested in seeing where their stories go.

mer4santo

Nov 21 2012, 11:31 AM

Matt

Nov 21 2012, 11:11 AM

I've actually been really enjoying TomSell for the most part & I hope they continue because I'm interested in seeing where their stories go.

After the past week and a half I'm finally on board (tentatively since the Monkey's Paw is always looming) but I feel like all of a sudden the stories are starting to gel and the characters are less flat.

SocRMum1

Nov 21 2012, 11:52 AM

mer4santo

Nov 21 2012, 11:31 AM

Matt

Nov 21 2012, 11:11 AM

I've actually been really enjoying TomSell for the most part & I hope they continue because I'm interested in seeing where their stories go.

After the past week and a half I'm finally on board (tentatively since the Monkey's Paw is always looming) but I feel like all of a sudden the stories are starting to gel and the characters are less flat.

This is exactly where I'm at. For the first several weeks I was wholly unimpressed with what I was seeing from TomSell. I still can't quite put my finger on it, to be honest. I thought the abrupt rush into Jennifer diving headlong into worrying about Daniel and seemingly not grieving much at all for Jack. The huge amount of time spent on Melanie's exit seemed like overkill. Having Nicole's baby survive the cliff hanger then die weeks later was jarring. And of course, having EJami seemingly so close to starting a true, mutual romance only to have Rafe literally dropped in like a dime was disappointing for me - particularly the way they continued to literally bounce Sami between the two of them with 'dates' and smooching on the couch for several weeks.

But in the past month of so I get the sense that they seem to have settled in to developing the long term stories they intend to tell and are actually spending some time allowing them to build and making sure they hit most of the right beats. Suddenly I'm finding characters that had been like nails on a chalkboard aren't bothering me as much if at all. And stories I would expect to have little interest in are really grabbing my attention and holding on. I make no secret that I'm a huge EJ/James Scott fan. And as much as his over abundance of screen time irritates some I typically eat it up. But these past few weeks have been a veritable drought in regard to EJ yet I find I'm still enjoying the show more than I have in a very long time. I still enjoy EJ and am particularly loving the scenes with Kristen - but I'm content with the entire show and no longer find myself watching for just one particular character or storyline. That hasn't happened since sometime in early 2007.

Dreamer

Nov 21 2012, 12:37 AM

There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why?... I dream of things and ask why not?

LuvingLumi

Nov 21 2012, 12:24 PM

This is a perfect example at how some people that didn't like the show just a few weeks ago are liking the show more now. Admitting to my bias, I can deal with some aspects of the show now because some couples/characters aren't being featured as much. I think the fact that Sami is for the most part without a man and focusing on something other than her love life is a breath of fresh air, how much that lasts is yet to be seen, but I like the show a bit more when we don't have Sami's carousel of men as the A storyline. So that makes me want to watch. Unfortunately, the only thing I would like is something for Lucas in the story department too. Then I'd be a very happy camper. I know they are utilizing him as some kind of angst for WilSon, but I'd much prefer that he gets another love interest and focuses on his own love life over whatever WilSon are planning to do.....it would make me immensely happy if TomSell did something like that.

I also like Kristen/Brady and the dynamic they create with Jarlena. This story in particular has the makings to be very, very good. Ditto for Nick/Gabi/Will/Sonny with a side of Chad screwing around....this story can be a very good umbrella story that creates drama for the Hortons in a way that hasn't been done for YEARS. We were clamoring for a Horton story, a story that focuses on them, well here it is...Will, a Horton having knocked up Gabi who is now dating another Horton Nick....cousins who might see themselves butting heads over who raises this child....then when you add the Kiriakis' into it with Sonny and how the Brady's might react it really has the foundation to be a great overall story.....

I've always loved Ericole so the fact that he's back is only the cherry on top.....

Only negatives are Dannifer to me....but I can deal with one bad story as long as I have a few others catching my interest. If they continue doing what they are doing and just give Lucas a story outside of Sami's circle, then I'll be a very, very happy camper.