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Wednesday, November 21st Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 20 2012, 02:29 PM (5,113 Views)
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Wednesday , November 21st

sami lets it slip to nick
that gabi is pregnant
he says what?
She says i thought you knew i thought she told you, i wouldnt have said anything
nick says i didnt know anything

rafe goes into gabis room
she isnt there

Lucas with Will and Gabi outside the square
lucas asks whats going on here
will says we need the money for a project for school
lucas says must be some project to need that much money
we need to talk in private

Hope and jen are having a book club
at jens house
doorbell rings
billie comes in
billie says she owes her an apology

Eric and nicole are still at the room in the church
nicole says to Eric do you realize how long we have been here talking
he says you had a lot to tell me
she says i have been through hell and this whole town is judging me
he says im sure it feels that way
she says they have nothing else to gossip about except how i lost my baby
and what happened with jennifer
he says im not judging you
she says of course you are, how can you not
i lost dan forever and nicole has won
the sad sack of the year award
admit it
you hate me now just like everybody else in this town

nick says i dont believe this ,she is pregnant
sami says yeah i know you havent been dating that long its a lot to take in
maybe thats why she didnt say anything right away
nick says oh my god
sami says you are going to be a dad nick

rafe calls gabi
no answer
he sees she left her phone
he notices her breakfast not eaten
says what the hell is going on

gabi says we are busy with the project
lucas says it wont take long
he takes will aside
and says he talked to sonny
not going to promise you everything is going to be perfect
but i promise i wont screw up like i did before and i told that to sonny
told him i needed to accept things
and i have to accept sonny and trust him
its going to be hard cuz i love you very much and so does sonny

eric says i cant tell you how sorry i am for the loss of your child as far as what you did afterwards
no i cant hate you i never could
she says because you are a priest now?
He says because im your friend
you suffered long enough
she says but there is more
you are thinking about something and you arent saying it and i want to know what it is

sami tells nick gabi is fine
rafe comes down and asks him when was the last time he saw gabi
nick says uh
rafe says dont lie to me
sami says he isnt he just found out gabi is pregnant
rafe says you didnt know
she didnt tell you
nick says no
rafe says maybe you can help me find her

will says did sonny say he loves me
lucas says its none of my business thats between you 2
Will says you said sonny loves me where is that coming from
lucas says from him you dont know how he feels
will says i guess so
lucas says i dont like me when i lie
will says about what
lucas says when i told if i walked in on you wiht a girl it would be the same thing
well its not true
if you were with gabi i wouldnt disapprove
you were right i was wrong
im apologizing
Will says thanks
lucas says if sonny makes you happy sonny makes you happy
Will says that means a lot to me
they hug
will asks gabi if she is ready
she says yeah
will tells his dad he will talk to him later
lucas gives them the money they need
will says thats very generous of you
gabi thanks him
lucas says good luck with the project
they leave

Billie says i thought the worse and jumped to conclusions and im so sorry
jen says i want to put this all behind us and move on
jen forgives her
Billie hugs her
another doorbell ring
its Kayla and Adrienne
they come in
Billie asks kayla about caroline
Hope says they will be back sooner than they thought
jen says there are a lot of things to be thankful for this year

Nicole says this collar thing doenst affect me
tell me what ever it is you are not telling me
he says you havent lost your edge
and im not comfortable being your advisor or confessor cuz we havent be able to talk about what this is
you havent found a way to make things right with Jennifer or Daniel
she says you think thats what i should do
he says it might help you find a way to move on and get closure
she says i loathe that word
im not the best apologizer
he says i know when we did a photo shoot in Venice beach and she had 4 things to apologize to him for
flashback
of nicole
modelling on a beach
she says you were so mad at me about the pics
you thought i hated your work
he says you never apologized
she says well in retroactively sorry
he says thank you
she says but you know im so right about those pics it wasnt about your work
it was about me and how i felt about my hair and my face and my skin
ok fine
he says when you look in the mirror and
find all these little flaws but you forget about the things you do
she says that im totally clueless and delusional and destructive
i know all those things
what will happen to me if i take your suggestion and do whats right
he says maybe you will be able to help yourself and lose this whole world hates me
she says what if it falls on deaf ears
and dan and jen dont care if i apologize or not cuz they have no intentions of forgiving me
he says then maybe you will get forgiveness
and if you forgive yourself
she says and then you are going to tell me god will forgive me too
im not comfortable with all this god talk
he says well maybe if you were
what, maybe if you would just stop and listen and stop preaching to me
im sick of this god talk and sick of god and sick of you telling me i need him hows that

Billie thanks jen for having them here today
jen says its lifting her spirits
they all sit down
the book they are talking about is
the Scarlet Letter
Billie picked it
says she read it in high school
Adrienne says how much times have changed
Jen says you mean pregnancy outside of marriage ?
Billie says we dont have to embroider a scarlet A on our our aprons
kayla says there are still some woman dealing with that stuff
Hope says what made you chose this book
Billie says forbidden love of course
They all laugh
Eric says so you think even god has turned against you but thats not true
she says how did you do it
how did you become a priest
he says he went to Colorado to start over
tried to take pics of things that matter
but not a lot of opportunity there
he got a news assignment
that put him in the middle of a civil war in the congo
he was witness to the most unimaginable cruelty and goodness
there were missionaries and the things they were doing changing minds and lives
on a small scale but very powerful
she says and you decided you wanted to do that too
he says not right away
found my way back to mass
seemed familiar to me
what i was taught in my childhood
started to come back
the way i saw the world completely changed and completely changed me
Nicole says she gets it
(music too loud, hard to make out what eric is saying, he talks too low and slow)

sami says acting like this , going after nick
isnt accomplishing anything right now
maybe you could cool it
rafe says you have a point
but i do reserve the right to go after him when we find gabi
her phone is in her bedroom
she didnt eat her breakfast
nick says she was feeling sick this morning morning sickness
sami ask nick if he saw her leave
he says no
rafe goes into the kitchen
see if anyone knows anything
sami says you have to give him time
nick says he is not high on my list of people im worried about right now
sami says how do you feel about gabi being pregnant

will and gabi go into the clinic
he asks her if she is ok
i only want you to do it if you are 100 percent sure
a woman comes in and says may i help you

Nicole says i have known you a long time
but you seem different
calmer and at peace
i can tell its the exact opposite of how i feel constantly
he says serenity takes work
she says you were always so good
so this is something else all together
he says its god
he is here for everyone
just not everybody is there for him
you have to make a conscience choice
she says to be celibate
they laugh
she says i know you arent trying to convert me but the god talk
(her earring falls to the floor)

so if you could be a little bit lighter on it
he says but if you were to be open to it
you would be amazed what could happen with your life
she says i need to go so thank you for the talk
she leaves

nick says im fine it doesnt matter either way i want to find gabi and find out why she didnt tell me
rafe comes back says no one saw her
nick says why are you so worried she isnt here
rafe says oh i dont know nick maybe because she is pregnant and scared how is that
rafe says he is going up to her room
sami says can i stay and wait for you
he says yeah
nick says he wants to help
he is in love with her
rafe says great
you find her come find me
sami and rafe go upstairs

gabi has to fill out forms
will says are you sure
she nods and starts to fill out the forms

Hope visits Eric
he says he didn think he would be working here , the best part besides being near family
he gets to over see the construction of the new school
she tells him cierra is going to come there to say hi , she is with friends
Hope notices the earring on the floor
he says thats nicoles she must have dropped it on the way out
she says Nicole was here with you
he says she dropped by we caught up
she says a big mistake nephew

Nicole is walking in the square
looks up and the stairs and flashbacks to falling down and telling jen she killed her son
and jen apologizing at the hospital
and nicole saying i will never forgive you now get out
Nicole puts her hands over her ears and says stop just stop
she leaves the square

sami and rafe in gabis room
he complains he let gabi down
should have been paying closer attention to her life
sami says she didnt get pregnant because
her big brother was neglecting her
he says im the only family she has here just me
she was close to ari but she isnt around anymore
i didnt realize how much that affected her
sami says you lost ari too
rafe says think this guys loves her
sami says yeah i do
he was so worried about her
after she fainted
and gabi says she loves him too
it makes a big difference

At the clinic
gabi thanks Will for coming with her
he says im with you all the way
sorry this happened to you
i should have been more careful i was stupid
she says no we were both there
will says if you arent ready and have any doubts its ok
we can take more time
gabi says no i wish you were coming in with me
he says me too but i will be here i wont go anywhere
she hugs him
and then she goes into the other room

Will is waiting in the waiting room
looking at a pic of sonny on his phone

a nurse asks gabi are you sure you want to go ahead with the procedure
i know this is difficult
gabi says yeah im sure
first she has to have a sonogram and determine how far along she is
she leaves while gabi gets undressed

rafe says she thinks im overprotective maybe thats why this happened
maybe she is rebelling
sami says its not that at all
she knows you are there for her
and sacrifice anything for her
he says she is right
i would
i was willing to sacrifice you

Hope says dont make me state the obvious here
he says you think my talking to Nicole is a mistake
Hope says you dont need this , do you know what she did to jennifer
he says yes i ran into her by accident she was just filling me in
she told me everything
Hope says letting this woman back into your life for any reason would be a catastrophe,,,, i mean it
you have to stay away from her

Adrienne asks jen if she is going to see her and abi tomorrow
jen says yes we are making pumpkin
pie
Adrienne leaves
jen looks at a pic of her and jack
then goes into the room
Nicole comes in the house

Eric says how could helping someone be a mistake
she says its not , not if that person
is able to accept help and be grateful Nicole is not only dishonest she exploits people
look what she did to jen
if that isnt a sociopath
he says im not excusing what she has done she is in bad shape, she needs someone to talk to
she is grieving the loss of her baby and thinks everyone in salem hates her
im trying to show her support
Hope says she needs to be watched
dont think that she is suddenly reformed
no she is not
he says how can you be sure
she says my gut instinct i have a terrible feeling about all of this especially about the conflict between Nicole and Jennifer
this is far from over i just know it

Nicole walks up behind Jennifer
and scares her

nick calls will leaves a message
wondering if gabi is with him
he wants her to call him
its important

rafe says its true
i was willing to give you up to save gabi but it ended up being a moot point, i lost you anyway
she says i think it proves you are willing to do anything for your sister
i respect you for that
how much you love her
he says i do love her
and i love her baby too i would do anything to help her

gabi is the room dressed for the procedure
the doc knocks on the door


sami says she needs to get an email out
she asks rafe if gabi would mind if she used her computer
he says im sure she wouldnt
so she goes on the computer
she brings up the last page
and sees the page gabi and Will were looking at
sami says oh my god

The doc comes into to see gabi
says im here to perform the procedure

rafe looks at the page and says oh no
oh gabi
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Jen is thankful for what's happened this year. Why am i not surprised.

TFP
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NicoleLVR


I love that Sami is running around telling everyone Gabi's pregnant, bitch can lie all day and be mad at everybody else, but somebody tell her to keep a secret and you can't keep it in, hypocrite much.
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LOL at lucas giving gabie/will the money
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Oh and please will somebody run Hope over and put her in a coma, I'm so tired of her condemning others but overlooking the her sins and the sins of her family. I mean Nicole's done horrible things and has had horrible things done to her, but atleast she's never killed anyone (Nick) or attacked innocent men and tried to burn her husband and rival alive (Hope).
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Even though I don't enjoy all of the characters, it does seem that there has been a resurgence of friendships on this show. That's refreshing. Thanks for the recap, Skye!
Edited by cord08, Nov 20 2012, 02:44 PM.
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NicoleLVR
Nov 20 2012, 02:42 PM
Oh and please will somebody run Hope over and put her in a coma, I'm so tired of her condemning others but overlooking the her sins and the sins of her family. I mean Nicole's done horrible things and has had horrible things done to her, but atleast she's never killed anyone (Nick) or attacked innocent men and tried to burn her husband and rival alive (Hope).
Hope isn't looking over her sins. She & Nick got more prison time than most people in Salem have gotten for their various crimes. Hope's got every right to be mad at Nicole for falsely accusing Jen, and she doesn't want Eric to get hurt by Nicole. Ultimately, Hope knows she can't stop Eric from talking to Nicole, but she wants to make sure that he's cautious. The scenes don't play out as harsh as it sounds in a summary.
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Jesus freakin Christ Sami again. Keep your freakin mouth shut.

Bet she won't be spilling secrets to everyone she comes in contact w/ when she learns shes gonna be a grandmother.
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Nov 20 2012, 02:32 PM
Jen is thankful for what's happened this year. Why am i not surprised.

TFP
No kidding. I would like to think that Jennifer is including her reunion with Jack, however brief, among the things to be thankful for. Unfortunately, this version of her is probably more thankful that she's free to pursue Daniel-Daniel-Daniel again. :rolleyes:

And was that book club meeting over The Scarlet Letter lame or what? This gathering would have had so much more meaning and significance if the women were meeting to talk about Jack's book and what it and he meant to them all. Instead, there's this contrived yapfest over a book most people get stuck reading in high school English (and don't particularly want to revisit, afterwards), which seems to have been chosen mainly because the main character gets pregnant out of wedlock, setting up a clumsy parallel with Gabi's situation. How absolutely riveting! :sarcasm:

Nice of Adrienne to invite the Deverauxes to her place for the holidays, but I still refuse to feel sorry for Jennifer this Thanksgiving. She was awful to Jack last year, jumping down his throat and hurling unfounded accusations at him on the basis of a snippet of phone conversation she overheard. Being thankful for his survival and homecoming sure didn't seem to enter into the equation! Then a few days later, she was whining to Hope about how she hated not spending Thanksgiving with Daniel instead of her family. Her nastiness then was exceeded only by her callous attempt to exclude Jack from the Horton tree trimming a week or two later. Just think, Bitchifer--the holidays that you so begrudged sharing with your husband of 20 years turned out to be the last ones you ever got to spend with him. May that haunt you for the rest of your miserable existence. :flipoff:

Sami needs to be muzzled. Or maybe she should just quit her job and apply for the position of town crier.

I'm glad that Nicole now has a friend who doesn't judge her. Although I wish she hadn't been thrown into another man's orbit this quickly.

The rest of this . . . zzzz.

Thanks for posting.
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"I don't know why I don't have a story, either!"

Random bookclub is random.

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Hope says what made you chose this book
Billie says forbidden love of course
They all laugh


I hope uncomfortably... ;)
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Nov 20 2012, 02:32 PM
Jen is thankful for what's happened this year. Why am i not surprised.

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Unless Jennifer knows something we don't, this woman is needs a brain transplant.
I think TPTB gave Jen, Hope's lines by mistake,or better yet the lines of Maggie's Horton/Kiriakas' dialogue, but unfortunately, she wasn't invited.


Billie's choice of the Scarlet Letter for their 1st book club meeting. Very interesting. Billie is asked 2x why she chose the book and she says 'forbidden love'. I mean how much can one book session foreshadow or not foreshadow. I thought the Scarlet Letter was a book about ADULTERY and public humiliation. Hester's huband left for 2 years and she cheats on him. Not sure if Jennifer need to wear a shirt with an 'A' on it, for a while or not? Sin & guilt, no thanks here.
Edited by Dreamer, Nov 20 2012, 03:10 PM.
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Supergirlx2
Nov 20 2012, 03:03 PM
NicoleLVR
Nov 20 2012, 02:42 PM
Oh and please will somebody run Hope over and put her in a coma, I'm so tired of her condemning others but overlooking the her sins and the sins of her family. I mean Nicole's done horrible things and has had horrible things done to her, but atleast she's never killed anyone (Nick) or attacked innocent men and tried to burn her husband and rival alive (Hope).
Hope isn't looking over her sins. She & Nick got more prison time than most people in Salem have gotten for their various crimes. Hope's got every right to be mad at Nicole for falsely accusing Jen, and she doesn't want Eric to get hurt by Nicole. Ultimately, Hope knows she can't stop Eric from talking to Nicole, but she wants to make sure that he's cautious. The scenes don't play out as harsh as it sounds in a summary.
Yes Nick may have served more time then most people in Salem, but Hope most certainly didn't. And yes she does have a right to be mad at her but Hope's been in the position where she has loss her child, Nicole has loss both of her children in one of which was full term. I would expect Hope to be more sympathetic and understand the irrational things Nicole did, because she did irrational things when her son died and when she and Bo where getting a divorce she went out start attacking people. And how is it right for someone convicted of attempted murder to be detective again?
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Nov 20 2012, 03:07 PM
bomber
Nov 20 2012, 02:32 PM
Jen is thankful for what's happened this year. Why am i not surprised.

TFP
Unless Jennifer knows something we don't, this woman is needs a brain transplant.
I think TPTB gave Jen, Hope's lines by mistake,or better yet the lines of Maggie's Horton/Kiriakas' dialogue, but unfortunately, she wasn't invited.


Billie's choice of the Scarlet Letter for their 1st book club meeting. Very interesting. Billie is asked 2x why she chose the book and she says 'forbidden love'. I mean how much can one book session foreshadow or not foreshadow. I thought the Scarlet Letter was a book about ADULTERY and public humiliation. Hester's huband left for 2 years and she cheats on him. Not sure if Jennifer need to wear a shirt with an 'A' on it, for a while or not? Sin & guilt, no thanks here.
"Forbidden love", my ass! That's dim even for Billie. The Scarlet Letter is not a romance, by any stretch of the imagination. It's about sin and redemption. Hester who can't escape the consequence of her moral lapse, faces up to her sin in her judgmental Puritan community, while her cowardly lover Dimmesdale can't admit his own guilt/complicity, and her vindictive husband plots to destroy the man who cuckolded him. (Personally, I always wondered what Hester saw in Dimmesdale--he's a weak reed if ever there was one.) The parallels in this case seem to be more with Gabi's situation than Jennifer's, but for me, rereading The Scarlet Letter might almost be preferable to watching any story revolving around this limp dishrag of a character.
Edited by Romancer66, Nov 21 2012, 01:05 AM.
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Days Preview 11-21-12

http://youtu.be/jaaNWvk5mvo

Hope, Kayla, Jen, Billie, Gabi, Nick, Will & others
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LOL Sami is "The Salem Spectator" I love Sami but she is not good at keeping other people's secrets.
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cajnej
Nov 20 2012, 03:25 PM
LOL Sami is "The Salem Spectator" I love Sami but she is not good at keeping other people's secrets.
So then Rafe was right in his decision not to tell Sami he wasn't the father of Nicole's baby, would you agree?
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Loved that Will was so surprised to hear Lucas say that Sonny loves him, Will seems to insecure in his relationship with Sonny but I loved how he was surprised. Also loved that he looks at Sonny pic on his phone while waiting for Gabi. I want him to go to see after all this and just hug him and tell him how he feels about him, I so want him to tell him the truth.
Edited by monie1973, Nov 20 2012, 03:37 PM.
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Romancer66
Nov 20 2012, 03:19 PM
Dreamer
Nov 20 2012, 03:07 PM
bomber
Nov 20 2012, 02:32 PM
Jen is thankful for what's happened this year. Why am i not surprised.

TFP
Unless Jennifer knows something we don't, this woman is needs a brain transplant.
I think TPTB gave Jen, Hope's lines by mistake,or better yet the lines of Maggie's Horton/Kiriakas' dialogue, but unfortunately, she wasn't invited.


Billie's choice of the Scarlet Letter for their 1st book club meeting. Very interesting. Billie is asked 2x why she chose the book and she says 'forbidden love'. I mean how much can one book session foreshadow or not foreshadow. I thought the Scarlet Letter was a book about ADULTERY and public humiliation. Hester's huband left for 2 years and she cheats on him. Not sure if Jennifer need to wear a shirt with an 'A' on it, for a while or not? Sin & guilt, no thanks here.
"Forbidden love", my ass! That's dim even for Billie. The Scarlet Letter is not a romance, by any stretch of the imagination. It's about sin and redemption. Hester who can't escape the consequence of her moral lapse, faces up to her sin in her judgmental Puritan community, while her cowardly lover Dimmesdale can't admit his own guilt/complicity, and her vindictive husband plots to destroy the man who cuckolded him. (Personally, I always wondered what Hester saw in Dimmesdale--he's a weak reed if ever there was one.) The parallels in this case seem to be more with Gabi's situation than Jennifer's, but for me, rereading The Scarlet Letter might almost be preferable to watching any story revolving around this limp dishrag of a character.
Maybe the writers want the audience to know that they can analyze The Scarlet Letter, so that we'll think they've got brains. However, my reading of The Scarlet Letter is more in line with how you guys have interpreted it than with Billie's assessment that's it's about "forbidden love." And I agree that Dimmesdale is a "weak reed if ever there was one."

But anyway, is the picture of Jack and Jennifer a new one, or is it old school? Just curious.

I do think friends gathering is a nice touch, but the content is still lacking. I think discussion of a relevant book is also a nice touch, but it sounds like it comes out pretty lame.

Maybe Eric and Nicole have promise, if it isn't rushed as all romances are rushed on this show these days. I think the "priest" angle is a good way to create angst without needing a third party, other than God at least. I found episodes of Soap on Netflix, and I really liked it, but the romance with the priest and the somewhat slutty girl was my favorite part. I actually didn't watch any more episodes after they broke up. Anyone know if they get back together? If so, I'll resume.

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NicoleLVR
Nov 20 2012, 03:35 PM
cajnej
Nov 20 2012, 03:25 PM
LOL Sami is "The Salem Spectator" I love Sami but she is not good at keeping other people's secrets.
So then Rafe was right in his decision not to tell Sami he wasn't the father of Nicole's baby, would you agree?
I do agree. He kept Sami's secret about Sami and EJ's baby so I would expect he would do the same for Nicole. In saying that I cannot stand Rafe so if any of his actions can put a wedge in his relationship and preferably distance between he and Sami and bring Ejami closer to happenning, well I am one happy person.
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