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TV Line: NBC Boss Addresses Days of Our Lives Future; 'It's Not Going Anywhere'
Topic Started: Jan 6 2013, 02:46 PM (10,145 Views)
esp13
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lysie
Jan 6 2013, 06:08 PM
esp13
Jan 6 2013, 05:59 PM
Jason47's website doesn't even list Beth Milstein as HW. It goes straight from JER to Hogan and that transition is in October. But I swear I remember reading that she was doing interim work from about June to when Sheffer's stuff started. And I did really kind of like that time period for the most part.
IIRC, Sheffer was hired, but there was a lag. IDK if this is true, but at the time I had heard that was a time period for him to become more acquainted with the show and it's history because apparently he wasn't familiar with Days. IDK how true anything I heard at that time is, but I do remember that Hogan's first preview didn't come until that fall. And if he'd stuck to the things he previewed, I think I'd have liked him. His first few months were great, IMO.
I agree and I'll go to my grave wondering how much of his stuff got screwed up by TPTB. My personal belief is a whole hell of a lot of it because when Ed Scott came in and they had those short few months together, things started clicking again. Then it all went to hell.
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LanaluvsBroe
Jan 6 2013, 06:07 PM
Matt
Jan 6 2013, 05:53 PM
LanaluvsBroe
Jan 6 2013, 05:51 PM
cord08
Jan 6 2013, 05:04 PM
While I think DAYS needs to do something, at a certain point, (we're probably already past it) changing writers every six months gives the show even less consistency and stability than it currently possesses. Constant upheaval is not usually good for business...and in the end, that's what DAYS is, a business.
That wouldn't be a problem if the new writer would quit trying to undo everything that was written by the previous writer.
If the previous writers would stop fucking shit up, there'd be nothing to undo. There's still a ton of crap I'm waiting to have undone. lolol
I could understand undoing some things that weren't well received by the fans (Eggbaby!) but to undo almost everything written by the previous writers the way Tomlin has, is going too far and damages the integrity of the characters and the show as a whole.
Exactly. It's like everytime the writers change especially when it comes to Tomlin, we must pretend that whatever happened a mere day ago is irrelevant now because he has no concept or respect for history or continuity.
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esp13
Jan 6 2013, 05:59 PM
Jason47's website doesn't even list Beth Milstein as HW. It goes straight from JER to Hogan and that transition is in October. But I swear I remember reading that she was doing interim work from about June to when Sheffer's stuff started. And I did really kind of like that time period for the most part.
The credits never officially listed Beth Milstein as the head writer. Here are the writer credits from those months (and the separate slates for each writer). Credits are for the first episode of each month:

AUGUST 2006:
Written by: James E. Reilly
Peter Brash, Rick Draughon, Renee Godelia, Jeanne Marie Ford
Sofia Landon Geier, Bruce Neckels, Jodie Scholz, Michael Slade, Susan Kirshenbaum

SEPTEMBER 2006:
Written by: James E. Reilly
Beth Milstein, Peter Brash, Rick Draughon, Renee Godelia, Hannah Shearer, Jeanne Marie Ford
Sofia Landon Geier, Bruce Neckels, Jodie Scholz, Michael Slade, Susan Kirshenbaum

OCTOBER 2006:
Written by: James E. Reilly
Beth Milstein, Peter Brash, Rick Draughon, Renee Godelia, Hannah Shearer, Jeanne Marie Ford
Sofia Landon Geier, Bruce Neckels, Jodie Scholz, Michael Slade, Susan Kirshenbaum, Meg Kelly, Anne M. Schoettle

NOVEMBER 2006:
Written by: Hogan Sheffer, Meg Kelly
Beth Milstein, Peter Brash, Rick Draughon, Renee Godelia, Hannah Shearer, Jeanne Marie Ford
Sofia Landon Geier, Bruce Neckels, Jodie Scholz, Michael Slade, Susan Kirshenbaum, Anne M. Schoettle

If she was considered a head writer, by WGA standards, then she should have been listed on the same slate as Jim Reilly, such as:

Written by: James E. Reilly, Beth Milstein
Edited by Jason47, Jan 6 2013, 06:56 PM.
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Thanks, Jason. And supposedly, JER was actually not writing by June.
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Well that was encouraging... maybe! :shrug:
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lysie
Jan 6 2013, 06:53 PM
Thanks, Jason. And supposedly, JER was actually not writing by June.
Beth wasn't in the credits at all until August. Here are May, June and July 2006:

MAY 2006:
Written by: James E. Reilly
Victor Gialanella, Peter Brash, Rick Draughon, Jeanne Marie Ford
Sofia Landon Geier, Bruce Neckels, Jodie Scholz, Michael Slade, Susan Kirshenbaum

JUNE 2006:
Written by: James E. Reilly
Victor Gialanella, Peter Brash, Rick Draughon, Jeanne Marie Ford
Sofia Landon Geier, Bruce Neckels, Jodie Scholz, Michael Slade

JULY 2006:
Written by: James E. Reilly
Peter Brash, Rick Draughon, Renee Godelia, Jeanne Marie Ford
Sofia Landon Geier, Bruce Neckels, Jodie Scholz, Michael Slade, Susan Kirshenbaum
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lysie
Jan 6 2013, 06:53 PM
Thanks, Jason. And supposedly, JER was actually not writing by June.
I can only go by what the credits say!! You know who supposedly takes credit for creating EJ DiMera, yet there are no records to verify that.
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Jason47
Jan 6 2013, 06:59 PM
lysie
Jan 6 2013, 06:53 PM
Thanks, Jason. And supposedly, JER was actually not writing by June.
I can only go by what the credits say!! You know who supposedly takes credit for creating EJ DiMera, yet there are no records to verify that.
Oh, I was trying to get you to change yours, lol.
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The ending credits aren't always right.
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I think I'll wait for an official announcement from NBC regarding renewal/cancellation. I distinctly remember when cancellation rumors were flying about OLTL and AMC that there would occasionally be a statement from someone supposedly in the know, or the actors themselves, that the show was not being cancelled and it will go on for years, etc. Lo and behold, both got the ax after all the reassurances that both would be on for several more years. I'll just wait and see on this and nothing will surprise me. I won't be shocked if Days is cancelled and I won't be shocked if NBC gives it more time.
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Sindacco
Jan 6 2013, 07:13 PM
The ending credits aren't always right.
I don't know when they haven't been. At least pertaining to the writers. There's a memo I have back from the late 1960's, and Betty Corday profusely apologizes to Bill Bell for his name being left off the credits one day. Pat Falken Smith had written the dialogue and there was a substitute typist or something and she only listed the script writer, not the head writer. I think Bill could have been owed extra money for that mistake, but they came to terms. Haven't seen the memo in awhile, but a mistake even in the 60s was a big-to-do!
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Well, they weren't correct that summer, lol.
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Great news for DAYS! I may not like everything that's going on right now, but I would be sad to see the show go.
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lysie
Jan 6 2013, 09:18 PM
Well, they weren't correct that summer, lol.
Not necessarily. They could have been working off JER's bible/longform scripts which Milstein was tweaking. Not sure how things get counted in that type of situation. After all, Hogan was listed as HW for scripts which included stuff we know (as much as possible) were not written by him.
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esp13
Jan 6 2013, 09:22 PM
lysie
Jan 6 2013, 09:18 PM
Well, they weren't correct that summer, lol.
Not necessarily. They could have been working off JER's bible/longform scripts which Milstein was tweaking. Not sure how things get counted in that type of situation. After all, Hogan was listed as HW for scripts which included stuff we know (as much as possible) were not written by him.
Supposedly there were contract issues with JER which could account for differences in the credits, but I'd assume you're right that they had to be using his outlines. She got credit for more at the time though, but IDK how that works.
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Not here for St. Jack of the Immaculate Redemption

Wikipedia (I know, I know) says Milstein was interim HW from August 10 to October 4, which pretty much squares with my memory. I was pretty sure JER (or whoever, lol) was writing through July. Deveraux burgers, anyone?
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Tomsell kill and steal babies. I'll never be a fan. And yes, that's my bias and favoritism showing. But it isn't just my favorites that Tomsell are butchering. I don't care if the story is fast/well-paced if the characters are completely unrecognizable. Soaps are characters. That's why people watch. Not for alien landings or exorcisms or exploding volcanoes. For the characters' reactions to those things.

And the prolonging of unsatisfying, unrootable stories has gone on for too long. I don't even care who Sami ends up with - but holy hell, have her choose one.

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well....................what to say !!??... i just read every post. there were only a few i disagreed with, but for the most part i agree with the general message that the writes have to go and go quickly. these two jokers got the show ran into the ground.how much longer will tptb allow this to go on ? let me make this statement>>>the only reason days might survive for another year is nbc got nothing to replace it with but you can be assured they are working on it.. now back to the change in writer lb would not be a good change. i have wated her work and its so/so and i feel we need new class a new bunch of writers. anyone can be educated and briefed and brought through dool wonderful history and to continue with fresh new ideas using the wonderful actors.Beth Milstein was mentioned she was writing for awhile and i thought he did well hs as hw was terrible. the worst thing that happened was loseing ed scott. he was getting things lined up and the direction was good but the head writer was terrible. isn't it time to ask him back perhaps along with Beth Milstein they would do better than the current writers and co-ep. i have watched days for 25 years this stuff is the worst. when a new team is in place tptb need to make another change stop tapeing so far ahead. 4 month is 1/3 of a year thats to long to see change is terrible story writing. what wroung with 6 weeks. i know i don;t understand the reasons why but something as to be done in this area as well . on y and r it din't take to long to see the new stuff when a new team was in place . if days changed writers tomorrow we got about 4 months more of this crap to watch. is there anyway around that? i still got Beth Milstein in my mind and thinking back she did do a good job filling in . i wonder what the ratings were like during her short time writing the show before hs screwed things up. heres a thought go to gh writers try and get them double there pay lol man i am desperate to get dool a great bunch of writers. well lets hope when corday is let off stefanos dessert island that he cleans house and some how changes the show for the best . i have to try and research the rating during the time Beth Milstein wrote briefly for days. :thanks:
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It was probably kooky Kola ghostwriting y'all.
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darraholic
Jan 6 2013, 09:42 PM
It was probably kooky Kola ghostwriting y'all.
That's the third time in this thread. If she shows up, I"m blaming you.
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