knots

Jan 7 2013, 09:36 AM

First of all Tomlin was ep not headwriter a lot of these stories were dena higley's and some were christpher whitesell. Frankly I like the paternity angle and it is a new story because a gay angle is involved and Will knew from the beginning it was not a who's the daddy. Plus eric as the priest is new angle. And I know the kristen with brady is new so to say these are recycled stories is ridiculous. They are new angles to all of these stories. I am enjoying the new angles. You get new writers I guarantee we may go back to kristen being written off because it was not their story, Wilson being deemphasazied like with mar dar and other things. Based on last week days is on fire and I am loving it.

knots

Jan 7 2013, 09:36 AM

First of all Tomlin was ep not headwriter a lot of these stories were dena higley's and some were christpher whitesell. Frankly I like the paternity angle and it is a new story because a gay angle is involved and Will knew from the beginning it was not a who's the daddy. Plus eric as the priest is new angle. And I know the kristen with brady is new so to say these are recycled stories is ridiculous. They are new angles to all of these stories. I am enjoying the new angles. You get new writers I guarantee we may go back to kristen being written off because it was not their story, Wilson being deemphasazied like with mar dar and other things. Based on last week days is on fire and I am loving it.

LuvingLumi

Jan 7 2013, 10:43 AM

knots

Jan 7 2013, 09:36 AM

First of all Tomlin was ep not headwriter a lot of these stories were dena higley's and some were christpher whitesell. Frankly I like the paternity angle and it is a new story because a gay angle is involved and Will knew from the beginning it was not a who's the daddy. Plus eric as the priest is new angle. And I know the kristen with brady is new so to say these are recycled stories is ridiculous. They are new angles to all of these stories. I am enjoying the new angles. You get new writers I guarantee we may go back to kristen being written off because it was not their story, Wilson being deemphasazied like with mar dar and other things. Based on last week days is on fire and I am loving it.

It's not ridiculous to say that the majority of the show has recycled stories, or stories that appeared back only two years ago, it's a fact, YOU CAN SEE IT, there is no denying it, it's playing out on screen now. I wouldn't say that the entire show has a new angle because of Kristen and Eric. They are two characters who came back and haven't been seen in over a decade. If they didn't have new stories for these two characters I'd be surprised, so it's a no brainer that the two who haven't been on forever could introduce new angles to stories, but why can't the writers do something else with the rest of the canvas? Why do they have to go back to telling the same exact stories they were telling when one was a co-hw and the other was the co-EP??

There was heavy speculation at the time (and it's sort of proven now with Dena nowhere around) that Gary Tomlin was in control of the stories via Chris Whitesell, who was the Co-HW with Dena then. There had been heavy talk of how Dena would lose control of the writing and it seemed that someone else was in control. I think we can pretty much say, that it does look like Tomlin used Whitesell as his arm into the writing department at Days, to either dictate or push his 'ideas' along. I'm not saying that Dena was not to blame for some of the crappy stories we got in 2011, but when you think about it...who green lighted those stories? Tomlin as Co-EP, Corday, The network....all of those deserve credit for how awful the show got too....and those are also the same idiots running the show now, or writing it....I am worried and if you think Days is on fire based on solely last weeks shows then we have an even bigger issue.....unless they continue to only showcase Bristen/Jarlena...everything else seemed like it was more of the same crap and just another day.

knots

Jan 7 2013, 11:23 AM

LuvingLumi

Jan 7 2013, 10:43 AM

knots

Jan 7 2013, 09:36 AM

First of all Tomlin was ep not headwriter a lot of these stories were dena higley's and some were christpher whitesell. Frankly I like the paternity angle and it is a new story because a gay angle is involved and Will knew from the beginning it was not a who's the daddy. Plus eric as the priest is new angle. And I know the kristen with brady is new so to say these are recycled stories is ridiculous. They are new angles to all of these stories. I am enjoying the new angles. You get new writers I guarantee we may go back to kristen being written off because it was not their story, Wilson being deemphasazied like with mar dar and other things. Based on last week days is on fire and I am loving it.

It's not ridiculous to say that the majority of the show has recycled stories, or stories that appeared back only two years ago, it's a fact, YOU CAN SEE IT, there is no denying it, it's playing out on screen now. I wouldn't say that the entire show has a new angle because of Kristen and Eric. They are two characters who came back and haven't been seen in over a decade. If they didn't have new stories for these two characters I'd be surprised, so it's a no brainer that the two who haven't been on forever could introduce new angles to stories, but why can't the writers do something else with the rest of the canvas? Why do they have to go back to telling the same exact stories they were telling when one was a co-hw and the other was the co-EP??

There was heavy speculation at the time (and it's sort of proven now with Dena nowhere around) that Gary Tomlin was in control of the stories via Chris Whitesell, who was the Co-HW with Dena then. There had been heavy talk of how Dena would lose control of the writing and it seemed that someone else was in control. I think we can pretty much say, that it does look like Tomlin used Whitesell as his arm into the writing department at Days, to either dictate or push his 'ideas' along. I'm not saying that Dena was not to blame for some of the crappy stories we got in 2011, but when you think about it...who green lighted those stories? Tomlin as Co-EP, Corday, The network....all of those deserve credit for how awful the show got too....and those are also the same idiots running the show now, or writing it....I am worried and if you think Days is on fire based on solely last weeks shows then we have an even bigger issue.....unless they continue to only showcase Bristen/Jarlena...everything else seemed like it was more of the same crap and just another day.

what you are saying is speculation about backstage gossip that is no proof of that. I am taking the show as is tomlin was ep. Again they are not the same stories. I do not think everything is perfect but I am enjoying the show. I am sorry that you are not. I see you are a lumi fan frankly Iwould have preferred sami with lucas too but that does not mean because one thing I want to happen did not that I am leaving the show. days is my favorite show it is the only soap that I look forward too and I look at all four shows. Eileen sighned a 5year contract and tomlin brought her on so i doubt she is going anywhere. I have looked at all the soaps and I have had favorites and my favorites have been kicked to the curb because I support soap operas. During mar dar's reign this show was getting on my nerves it is not anymore. people are connected to each other better. When will came out where was the scene with his uncle austin and aunt carrie. The wedding involves the families which is fun for me plus kristen and brady.

lumifan4life

Jan 7 2013, 10:57 AM

knots

Jan 7 2013, 09:36 AM

First of all Tomlin was ep not headwriter a lot of these stories were dena higley's and some were christpher whitesell. Frankly I like the paternity angle and it is a new story because a gay angle is involved and Will knew from the beginning it was not a who's the daddy. Plus eric as the priest is new angle. And I know the kristen with brady is new so to say these are recycled stories is ridiculous. They are new angles to all of these stories. I am enjoying the new angles. You get new writers I guarantee we may go back to kristen being written off because it was not their story, Wilson being deemphasazied like with mar dar and other things. Based on last week days is on fire and I am loving it.

Judging that Kristen is with Brady in the first place, I honestly don't see her sticking around for all that long. Brady's women usually end up dead sooner than later.

lysie

Jan 7 2013, 11:28 AM

knots

Jan 7 2013, 11:23 AM

LuvingLumi

Jan 7 2013, 10:43 AM

knots

Jan 7 2013, 09:36 AM

First of all Tomlin was ep not headwriter a lot of these stories were dena higley's and some were christpher whitesell. Frankly I like the paternity angle and it is a new story because a gay angle is involved and Will knew from the beginning it was not a who's the daddy. Plus eric as the priest is new angle. And I know the kristen with brady is new so to say these are recycled stories is ridiculous. They are new angles to all of these stories. I am enjoying the new angles. You get new writers I guarantee we may go back to kristen being written off because it was not their story, Wilson being deemphasazied like with mar dar and other things. Based on last week days is on fire and I am loving it.

It's not ridiculous to say that the majority of the show has recycled stories, or stories that appeared back only two years ago, it's a fact, YOU CAN SEE IT, there is no denying it, it's playing out on screen now. I wouldn't say that the entire show has a new angle because of Kristen and Eric. They are two characters who came back and haven't been seen in over a decade. If they didn't have new stories for these two characters I'd be surprised, so it's a no brainer that the two who haven't been on forever could introduce new angles to stories, but why can't the writers do something else with the rest of the canvas? Why do they have to go back to telling the same exact stories they were telling when one was a co-hw and the other was the co-EP??

There was heavy speculation at the time (and it's sort of proven now with Dena nowhere around) that Gary Tomlin was in control of the stories via Chris Whitesell, who was the Co-HW with Dena then. There had been heavy talk of how Dena would lose control of the writing and it seemed that someone else was in control. I think we can pretty much say, that it does look like Tomlin used Whitesell as his arm into the writing department at Days, to either dictate or push his 'ideas' along. I'm not saying that Dena was not to blame for some of the crappy stories we got in 2011, but when you think about it...who green lighted those stories? Tomlin as Co-EP, Corday, The network....all of those deserve credit for how awful the show got too....and those are also the same idiots running the show now, or writing it....I am worried and if you think Days is on fire based on solely last weeks shows then we have an even bigger issue.....unless they continue to only showcase Bristen/Jarlena...everything else seemed like it was more of the same crap and just another day.

what you are saying is speculation about backstage gossip that is no proof of that. I am taking the show as is tomlin was ep. Again they are not the same stories. I do not think everything is perfect but I am enjoying the show. I am sorry that you are not. I see you are a lumi fan frankly Iwould have preferred sami with lucas too but that does not mean because one thing I want to happen did not that I am leaving the show. days is my favorite show it is the only soap that I look forward too and I look at all four shows. Eileen sighned a 5year contract and tomlin brought her on so i doubt she is going anywhere. I have looked at all the soaps and I have had favorites and my favorites have been kicked to the curb because I support soap operas. During mar dar's reign this show was getting on my nerves it is not anymore. people are connected to each other better. When will came out where was the scene with his uncle austin and aunt carrie. The wedding involves the families which is fun for me plus kristen and brady.

Where did you get that Eileen signed a five year contract?

Tomlin's involvement in stories isn't speculation. It was referenced constantly in previews while he was EP. The speculation is over just how much involvement there was.

And I would like new writers but that doesn't mean I'm "leaving" the show.

NocturnalBlondie

Jan 7 2013, 11:42 AM

And as other people have referenced, Arianna wasn't even with Brady when she died. So I don't really get the "doomsday" connection when it comes to Brady and his love life. Technically only one of his girlfriends died. Arianna was his ex.

lumifan4life

Jan 7 2013, 11:46 AM

NocturnalBlondie

Jan 7 2013, 11:42 AM

And as other people have referenced, Arianna wasn't even with Brady when she died. So I don't really get the "doomsday" connection when it comes to Brady and his love life. Technically only one of his girlfriends died. Arianna was his ex.

Women associated with Brady tend to die. Whether Arianna was with Brady at the time of her death or not, they were romantically linked for the brief time she was on the show. Even Chloe "died" while with Brady but she came back from the dead. Not saying Kristen will definitely die but it's always a possibility as with any other character. "Relevant" characters die too.

lumifan4life

Jan 7 2013, 11:46 AM

NocturnalBlondie

Jan 7 2013, 11:42 AM

And as other people have referenced, Arianna wasn't even with Brady when she died. So I don't really get the "doomsday" connection when it comes to Brady and his love life. Technically only one of his girlfriends died. Arianna was his ex.

Women associated with Brady tend to die. Whether Arianna was with Brady at the time of her death or not, they were romantically linked for the brief time she was on the show. Even Chloe "died" while with Brady but she came back from the dead. Not saying Kristen will definitely die but it's always a possibility as with any other character. "Relevant" characters die too.

AFaithL

Jan 7 2013, 11:49 AM

lumifan4life

Jan 7 2013, 11:46 AM

NocturnalBlondie

Jan 7 2013, 11:42 AM

And as other people have referenced, Arianna wasn't even with Brady when she died. So I don't really get the "doomsday" connection when it comes to Brady and his love life. Technically only one of his girlfriends died. Arianna was his ex.

Women associated with Brady tend to die. Whether Arianna was with Brady at the time of her death or not, they were romantically linked for the brief time she was on the show. Even Chloe "died" while with Brady but she came back from the dead. Not saying Kristen will definitely die but it's always a possibility as with any other character. "Relevant" characters die too.

These women "died" because they weren't well received in their pairings with Brady. Kristen doesn't have that problem.

knots

Jan 7 2013, 11:45 AM

I read on one of the sites when she first came on that she had a signed a 5 year contract. I can't remember now. Also Lysie I did not say you were leaving the show. I was not referring to anyone in particular. I was just hearing in general on other sites that because jack, or bo or whoever was not on the show they were leaving it. I was saying that is not my response. One of my favorite soap characters was laura on gh when they wrote her off I was upset but I still supported the show. Of course an ep is involved with story but I was responding to the backstage scenario that lovinglumi wrote which I would need more evidence of in order to use as proof of anything. I am sorrysome of you are not enjoying the show. I do not like every storyline but I do not like every story of any show. But I like most of what is going on and I fully support the writing team. If you do not that you opinion I may not agree with it but I support to the death your right to have it. About eileen remember sony own both dool and y& r it might have to do with the two shows.

lysie

Jan 7 2013, 11:57 AM

knots

Jan 7 2013, 11:45 AM

I read on one of the sites when she first came on that she had a signed a 5 year contract. I can't remember now. Also Lysie I did not say you were leaving the show. I was not referring to anyone in particular. I was just hearing in general on other sites that because jack, or bo or whoever was not on the show they were leaving it. I was saying that is not my response. One of my favorite soap characters was laura on gh when they wrote her off I was upset but I still supported the show. Of course an ep is involved with story but I was responding to the backstage scenario that lovinglumi wrote which I would need more evidence of in order to use as proof of anything. I am sorrysome of you are not enjoying the show. I do not like every storyline but I do not like every story of any show. But I like most of what is going on and I fully support the writing team. If you do not that you opinion I may not agree with it but I support to the death your right to have it. About eileen remember sony own both dool and y& r it might have to do with the two shows.

I'm pretty positive she doesn't have a five year contract.

lysie

Jan 7 2013, 11:57 AM

knots

Jan 7 2013, 11:45 AM

I read on one of the sites when she first came on that she had a signed a 5 year contract. I can't remember now. Also Lysie I did not say you were leaving the show. I was not referring to anyone in particular. I was just hearing in general on other sites that because jack, or bo or whoever was not on the show they were leaving it. I was saying that is not my response. One of my favorite soap characters was laura on gh when they wrote her off I was upset but I still supported the show. Of course an ep is involved with story but I was responding to the backstage scenario that lovinglumi wrote which I would need more evidence of in order to use as proof of anything. I am sorrysome of you are not enjoying the show. I do not like every storyline but I do not like every story of any show. But I like most of what is going on and I fully support the writing team. If you do not that you opinion I may not agree with it but I support to the death your right to have it. About eileen remember sony own both dool and y& r it might have to do with the two shows.

I'm pretty positive she doesn't have a five year contract.

knots

Jan 7 2013, 11:23 AM

LuvingLumi

Jan 7 2013, 10:43 AM

knots

Jan 7 2013, 09:36 AM

First of all Tomlin was ep not headwriter a lot of these stories were dena higley's and some were christpher whitesell. Frankly I like the paternity angle and it is a new story because a gay angle is involved and Will knew from the beginning it was not a who's the daddy. Plus eric as the priest is new angle. And I know the kristen with brady is new so to say these are recycled stories is ridiculous. They are new angles to all of these stories. I am enjoying the new angles. You get new writers I guarantee we may go back to kristen being written off because it was not their story, Wilson being deemphasazied like with mar dar and other things. Based on last week days is on fire and I am loving it.

It's not ridiculous to say that the majority of the show has recycled stories, or stories that appeared back only two years ago, it's a fact, YOU CAN SEE IT, there is no denying it, it's playing out on screen now. I wouldn't say that the entire show has a new angle because of Kristen and Eric. They are two characters who came back and haven't been seen in over a decade. If they didn't have new stories for these two characters I'd be surprised, so it's a no brainer that the two who haven't been on forever could introduce new angles to stories, but why can't the writers do something else with the rest of the canvas? Why do they have to go back to telling the same exact stories they were telling when one was a co-hw and the other was the co-EP??

There was heavy speculation at the time (and it's sort of proven now with Dena nowhere around) that Gary Tomlin was in control of the stories via Chris Whitesell, who was the Co-HW with Dena then. There had been heavy talk of how Dena would lose control of the writing and it seemed that someone else was in control. I think we can pretty much say, that it does look like Tomlin used Whitesell as his arm into the writing department at Days, to either dictate or push his 'ideas' along. I'm not saying that Dena was not to blame for some of the crappy stories we got in 2011, but when you think about it...who green lighted those stories? Tomlin as Co-EP, Corday, The network....all of those deserve credit for how awful the show got too....and those are also the same idiots running the show now, or writing it....I am worried and if you think Days is on fire based on solely last weeks shows then we have an even bigger issue.....unless they continue to only showcase Bristen/Jarlena...everything else seemed like it was more of the same crap and just another day.

what you are saying is speculation about backstage gossip that is no proof of that. I am taking the show as is tomlin was ep. Again they are not the same stories. I do not think everything is perfect but I am enjoying the show. I am sorry that you are not. I see you are a lumi fan frankly Iwould have preferred sami with lucas too but that does not mean because one thing I want to happen did not that I am leaving the show. days is my favorite show it is the only soap that I look forward too and I look at all four shows. Eileen sighned a 5year contract and tomlin brought her on so i doubt she is going anywhere. I have looked at all the soaps and I have had favorites and my favorites have been kicked to the curb because I support soap operas. During mar dar's reign this show was getting on my nerves it is not anymore. people are connected to each other better. When will came out where was the scene with his uncle austin and aunt carrie. The wedding involves the families which is fun for me plus kristen and brady.