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Jan 13 2013, 12:45 PM

Aliaron

Jan 13 2013, 10:48 AM

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Jan 13 2013, 03:23 AM

outrageous

Jan 13 2013, 02:43 AM

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I don't know if it was rape. Rape is to take someone against their will and Scarlett was pretty happy the next morning and having great memories of the night before. I know it's been said it was a maritial rape, but in the book and the movie Scarlett's behavior isn't one of a woman who has been raped.

it wasn't rape. It was angry sex.

I'm not questioning how Sami could be seen as having Scarlett-like tendencies. I just have no clue how EJ is Rhett. To me its liked when EJ/Sami are compared to Twilight. I'm not even a fan of Twilight and I can't fathom the comparison.

It's been years since I've read GWTW, but I think there's the part when he's carrying her up the stairs and he's determined to have sex with Scarlett whether she likes it or not, but somewhere before they reach the bedroom he kisses her and she finds herself kissing him back, so by time they've actually started the sex Scarlett does want him. And didn't Days do a storyline when Don Craig forced himself on Marlena (they were married at the time) and Marlena told him to no and to stop?

jam6242

Jan 13 2013, 12:06 PM

Harmony233

Jan 13 2013, 10:52 AM

Aliaron

Jan 13 2013, 10:48 AM

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Jan 13 2013, 03:23 AM

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it wasn't rape. It was angry sex.

I'm not questioning how Sami could be seen as having Scarlett-like tendencies. I just have no clue how EJ is Rhett. To me its liked when EJ/Sami are compared to Twilight. I'm not even a fan of Twilight and I can't fathom the comparison.

honestly the couple sami/ej remind of is lawrence/carly from the 90's.

The couple EJ and Sami remind me of the most are the characters played by Gregory Peck and Jennifer Jones in "Duel in the Sun." They ended up in a shootout with each other while crawling across a desert!

Ljay

Jan 13 2013, 12:50 PM

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Jan 13 2013, 12:45 PM

Aliaron

Jan 13 2013, 10:48 AM

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Jan 13 2013, 03:23 AM

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it wasn't rape. It was angry sex.

I'm not questioning how Sami could be seen as having Scarlett-like tendencies. I just have no clue how EJ is Rhett. To me its liked when EJ/Sami are compared to Twilight. I'm not even a fan of Twilight and I can't fathom the comparison.

It's been years since I've read GWTW, but I think there's the part when he's carrying her up the stairs and he's determined to have sex with Scarlett whether she likes it or not, but somewhere before they reach the bedroom he kisses her and she finds herself kissing him back, so by time they've actually started the sex Scarlett does want him. And didn't Days do a storyline when Don Craig forced himself on Marlena (they were married at the time) and Marlena told him to no and to stop?

Rhett apologized the next morning for his actions and Scarlett found absolutely nothing wrong with it. If you've seen the movie she was so happy she was humming, LOL

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Jan 13 2013, 12:45 PM

Aliaron

Jan 13 2013, 10:48 AM

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Jan 13 2013, 03:23 AM

outrageous

Jan 13 2013, 02:43 AM

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I don't know if it was rape. Rape is to take someone against their will and Scarlett was pretty happy the next morning and having great memories of the night before. I know it's been said it was a maritial rape, but in the book and the movie Scarlett's behavior isn't one of a woman who has been raped.

it wasn't rape. It was angry sex.

I'm not questioning how Sami could be seen as having Scarlett-like tendencies. I just have no clue how EJ is Rhett. To me its liked when EJ/Sami are compared to Twilight. I'm not even a fan of Twilight and I can't fathom the comparison.

It's been years since I've read GWTW, but I think there's the part when he's carrying her up the stairs and he's determined to have sex with Scarlett whether she likes it or not, but somewhere before they reach the bedroom he kisses her and she finds herself kissing him back, so by time they've actually started the sex Scarlett does want him. And didn't Days do a storyline when Don Craig forced himself on Marlena (they were married at the time) and Marlena told him to no and to stop?

Dee-anne

Jan 13 2013, 12:38 PM

^^It is more plausible than EJ being compared to him.

DocandJohn4ever

Jan 12 2013, 05:18 PM

Poker Face

Jan 12 2013, 04:45 PM

soapgoddess

Jan 9 2013, 11:37 PM

Mitchapalooza

Jan 9 2013, 11:08 PM

Every female on the show past and present will be destroyed at the altar of Daniel fucking Jonas before the show FINALLY will get it that NO ONE FUCKING CARES about Daniel or who he is bedding this week!

However, the ptb know the majority of fans dislike the Dr. Sleaze propping destroying women, the ptb aren't doing anything about it.
They simply don't give a damn. SC is their goldenboy, and apparently the ptb believe we should accept whatever they shove down our
throats.

what's so golden about him? TomSell suck big time shoving those kind of characters like Daniel and tossing aside the ones who have been on the show since forever. :shrug:

his tan? :shrug: that's about it and I agree I'm sick of the vets and other actors getting thrown under the bus for TomSels pets :soapbox:

lysie

Jan 12 2013, 10:25 PM

Jason47

Jan 12 2013, 09:41 PM

LuvingLumi

Jan 12 2013, 04:45 PM

lysie

Jan 12 2013, 04:37 PM

Maybe my memory is flawed, but pre-2006, I don't remember the show revolving around just two characters or even just a few characters. If someone had asked me back then who the lead characters were, I think I'd have named at least 6 people, maybe more. The last 6-7 years haven't been that way at all.

And the show was much better then...

It's not like Sami wasn't being groomed to lead story pre Ej coming along, she lead many stories, one in particular that featured her on death row.

Episode Rankings: 2008-2012:
1. James Scott (EJ DiMera-910/Santo DiMera-2) 911
2. Alison Sweeney (Sami Brady-809/Young Colleen Brady-1) 809
3. Arianne Zucker (Nicole Walker) 785
4. Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez-669/Rafe Hernandez-91) 697
5. Shawn Christian (Daniel Jonas) 627
6. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady) 611
7. Peter Reckell (Bo Brady) 603
8. Molly Burnett (Melanie Jonas) 579
9. Eric Martsolf (Brady Black) 529
10. Lauren Koslow (Kate Roberts) 487
11. Nadia Bjorlin (Chloe Lane) 472
12. Joseph Mascolo (Stefano DiMera) 469
13. Jay Johnson (Philip Kiriakis) 463
14. Suzanne Rogers (Maggie Horton) 403
15. John Aniston (Victor Kiriakis) 389
16. Renee Jones (Lexie Carver) 383
17. Shelley Hennig (Stephanie Johnson) 373
18. Drake Hogestyn (John Black) 312
19. Josh Taylor (Roman Brady) 310
20. Deidre Hall (Marlena Evans) 309

Episode Rankings: 2000-2012:
1. Alison Sweeney (Sami Brady-2035/Young Colleen Brady-24) 2038
2. Peter Reckell (Bo Brady) 1801
3. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady-1795/Gina VonAmberg-24) 1798
4. Arianne Zucker (Nicole Walker) 1494
5. Lauren Koslow (Kate Roberts) 1416
6. Drake Hogestyn (John Black) 1363
7. Deidre Hall (Marlena Evans-12/63/Hattie Adams-2/Samantha Evans-2) 1263
8. James Scott (EJ DiMera-1173/Santo DiMera-21) 1180
9. Jason Cook (Shawn-Douglas Brady) 1155
10. Renee Jones (Lexie Carver) 1153
11. Bryan Dattilo (Lucas Horton) 1152
12. Nadia Bjorlin (Chloe Lane) 1076
13. Josh Taylor (Roman Brady) 1060
14. Jay Johnson (Philip Kiriakis) 984
15. Melissa Reeves (Jennifer Horton) 943
16. John Aniston (Victor Kiriakis) 917
17. Farah Fath (Mimi Lockhart) 862
18. James Reynolds (Abe Carver) 826
19. Kirsten Storms (Belle Black) 770
20. Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez-669/Rafe Hernandez 2-91) 697

This is one of the saddest lists I've ever seen.

Poker Face

Jan 13 2013, 02:36 PM

lysie

Jan 12 2013, 10:25 PM

Jason47

Jan 12 2013, 09:41 PM

LuvingLumi

Jan 12 2013, 04:45 PM

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Episode Rankings: 2008-2012:
1. James Scott (EJ DiMera-910/Santo DiMera-2) 911
2. Alison Sweeney (Sami Brady-809/Young Colleen Brady-1) 809
3. Arianne Zucker (Nicole Walker) 785
4. Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez-669/Rafe Hernandez-91) 697
5. Shawn Christian (Daniel Jonas) 627
6. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady) 611
7. Peter Reckell (Bo Brady) 603
8. Molly Burnett (Melanie Jonas) 579
9. Eric Martsolf (Brady Black) 529
10. Lauren Koslow (Kate Roberts) 487
11. Nadia Bjorlin (Chloe Lane) 472
12. Joseph Mascolo (Stefano DiMera) 469
13. Jay Johnson (Philip Kiriakis) 463
14. Suzanne Rogers (Maggie Horton) 403
15. John Aniston (Victor Kiriakis) 389
16. Renee Jones (Lexie Carver) 383
17. Shelley Hennig (Stephanie Johnson) 373
18. Drake Hogestyn (John Black) 312
19. Josh Taylor (Roman Brady) 310
20. Deidre Hall (Marlena Evans) 309

Episode Rankings: 2000-2012:
1. Alison Sweeney (Sami Brady-2035/Young Colleen Brady-24) 2038
2. Peter Reckell (Bo Brady) 1801
3. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady-1795/Gina VonAmberg-24) 1798
4. Arianne Zucker (Nicole Walker) 1494
5. Lauren Koslow (Kate Roberts) 1416
6. Drake Hogestyn (John Black) 1363
7. Deidre Hall (Marlena Evans-12/63/Hattie Adams-2/Samantha Evans-2) 1263
8. James Scott (EJ DiMera-1173/Santo DiMera-21) 1180
9. Jason Cook (Shawn-Douglas Brady) 1155
10. Renee Jones (Lexie Carver) 1153
11. Bryan Dattilo (Lucas Horton) 1152
12. Nadia Bjorlin (Chloe Lane) 1076
13. Josh Taylor (Roman Brady) 1060
14. Jay Johnson (Philip Kiriakis) 984
15. Melissa Reeves (Jennifer Horton) 943
16. John Aniston (Victor Kiriakis) 917
17. Farah Fath (Mimi Lockhart) 862
18. James Reynolds (Abe Carver) 826
19. Kirsten Storms (Belle Black) 770
20. Galen Gering (Rafe Hernandez-669/Rafe Hernandez 2-91) 697

This is one of the saddest lists I've ever seen.

I AGREE! esp #4 #5

#18 & #20 ?! that's so wrong in so many levels man.

EJ_SamiFF

Jan 13 2013, 01:36 PM

Dee-anne

Jan 13 2013, 12:38 PM

^^It is more plausible than EJ being compared to him.

I can understand why some people compare EJ/Sami to Rhett/Scarlett .
Scarlett was vain, self-centered and insecure. She tried very hard to live up to the expectations of her society and she had a deep fear that her true self would be discovered. Rhett admires Scarlett's willful nature, and he discovers that they are alike in many ways. With Rhett Scarlett dosent have to hide, it becomes liberating for her. Ashley is a contrast to Rhett. He is a "honarable man" while Rhett is more ruthless and does what he has to do to survive. In the end Scarlett realized that she was chasing a dream with Ashley and that he wasn't who she really wanted.

AFaithL

Jan 13 2013, 03:04 PM

EJ_SamiFF

Jan 13 2013, 01:36 PM

Dee-anne

Jan 13 2013, 12:38 PM

^^It is more plausible than EJ being compared to him.

I can understand why some people compare EJ/Sami to Rhett/Scarlett .
Scarlett was vain, self-centered and insecure. She tried very hard to live up to the expectations of her society and she had a deep fear that her true self would be discovered. Rhett admires Scarlett's willful nature, and he discovers that they are alike in many ways. With Rhett Scarlett dosent have to hide, it becomes liberating for her. Ashley is a contrast to Rhett. He is a "honarable man" while Rhett is more ruthless and does what he has to do to survive. In the end Scarlett realized that she was chasing a dream with Ashley and that he wasn't who she really wanted.

Except, they've totally changed Sami's character. I would love it if they wrote Sami more like Scarlett. That's the real Sami: selfish and narcissistic, yet loves her family fiercely. Instead, Sami's been stripped of her Scarlett-ish personality and become a watered-down generic heroine with ni "edge". And EJ has lost his his suave "Rhett-ish" like personality. If they were written like Rhett/Scarlett, I could like it. Sami selfishly prancing around, thinking she wants good-guy Rafe(Ashley), and EJ making HER chase HIM, while remaining his confident, seductive self. Instead EJ has lost his balls, become a generic "good guy", and grovels.

No, this version of EJami is nothing like Rhett and Scarlett. With good writing they could be written like them, but Sami would have to go back to her roots and EJ will have to stop being her lapdog.

AFaithL

Jan 13 2013, 03:04 PM

EJ_SamiFF

Jan 13 2013, 01:36 PM

Dee-anne

Jan 13 2013, 12:38 PM

^^It is more plausible than EJ being compared to him.

I can understand why some people compare EJ/Sami to Rhett/Scarlett .
Scarlett was vain, self-centered and insecure. She tried very hard to live up to the expectations of her society and she had a deep fear that her true self would be discovered. Rhett admires Scarlett's willful nature, and he discovers that they are alike in many ways. With Rhett Scarlett dosent have to hide, it becomes liberating for her. Ashley is a contrast to Rhett. He is a "honarable man" while Rhett is more ruthless and does what he has to do to survive. In the end Scarlett realized that she was chasing a dream with Ashley and that he wasn't who she really wanted.

Except, they've totally changed Sami's character. I would love it if they wrote Sami more like Scarlett. That's the real Sami: selfish and narcissistic, yet loves her family fiercely. Instead, Sami's been stripped of her Scarlett-ish personality and become a watered-down generic heroine with ni "edge". And EJ has lost his his suave "Rhett-ish" like personality. If they were written like Rhett/Scarlett, I could like it. Sami selfishly prancing around, thinking she wants good-guy Rafe(Ashley), and EJ making HER chase HIM, while remaining his confident, seductive self. Instead EJ has lost his balls, become a generic "good guy", and grovels.

No, this version of EJami is nothing like Rhett and Scarlett. With good writing they could be written like them, but Sami would have to go back to her roots and EJ will have to stop being her lapdog.

Dee-anne

Jan 13 2013, 03:20 PM

AFaithL

Jan 13 2013, 03:04 PM

EJ_SamiFF

Jan 13 2013, 01:36 PM

Dee-anne

Jan 13 2013, 12:38 PM

^^It is more plausible than EJ being compared to him.

I can understand why some people compare EJ/Sami to Rhett/Scarlett .
Scarlett was vain, self-centered and insecure. She tried very hard to live up to the expectations of her society and she had a deep fear that her true self would be discovered. Rhett admires Scarlett's willful nature, and he discovers that they are alike in many ways. With Rhett Scarlett dosent have to hide, it becomes liberating for her. Ashley is a contrast to Rhett. He is a "honarable man" while Rhett is more ruthless and does what he has to do to survive. In the end Scarlett realized that she was chasing a dream with Ashley and that he wasn't who she really wanted.

Except, they've totally changed Sami's character. I would love it if they wrote Sami more like Scarlett. That's the real Sami: selfish and narcissistic, yet loves her family fiercely. Instead, Sami's been stripped of her Scarlett-ish personality and become a watered-down generic heroine with ni "edge". And EJ has lost his his suave "Rhett-ish" like personality. If they were written like Rhett/Scarlett, I could like it. Sami selfishly prancing around, thinking she wants good-guy Rafe(Ashley), and EJ making HER chase HIM, while remaining his confident, seductive self. Instead EJ has lost his balls, become a generic "good guy", and grovels.

No, this version of EJami is nothing like Rhett and Scarlett. With good writing they could be written like them, but Sami would have to go back to her roots and EJ will have to stop being her lapdog.

They would also have to magically wipe the horrible things Ejami have done to each other from our minds, and having the characters ignoring it, shaking hands on it, or sharing a drink and saying let by gones be by gones won't do the trick.

AFaithL

Jan 13 2013, 03:04 PM

EJ_SamiFF

Jan 13 2013, 01:36 PM

Dee-anne

Jan 13 2013, 12:38 PM

^^It is more plausible than EJ being compared to him.

I can understand why some people compare EJ/Sami to Rhett/Scarlett .
Scarlett was vain, self-centered and insecure. She tried very hard to live up to the expectations of her society and she had a deep fear that her true self would be discovered. Rhett admires Scarlett's willful nature, and he discovers that they are alike in many ways. With Rhett Scarlett dosent have to hide, it becomes liberating for her. Ashley is a contrast to Rhett. He is a "honarable man" while Rhett is more ruthless and does what he has to do to survive. In the end Scarlett realized that she was chasing a dream with Ashley and that he wasn't who she really wanted.

Except, they've totally changed Sami's character. I would love it if they wrote Sami more like Scarlett. That's the real Sami: selfish and narcissistic, yet loves her family fiercely. Instead, Sami's been stripped of her Scarlett-ish personality and become a watered-down generic heroine with ni "edge". And EJ has lost his his suave "Rhett-ish" like personality. If they were written like Rhett/Scarlett, I could like it. Sami selfishly prancing around, thinking she wants good-guy Rafe(Ashley), and EJ making HER chase HIM, while remaining his confident, seductive self. Instead EJ has lost his balls, become a generic "good guy", and grovels.

No, this version of EJami is nothing like Rhett and Scarlett. With good writing they could be written like them, but Sami would have to go back to her roots and EJ will have to stop being her lapdog.

outrageous

Jan 13 2013, 03:35 PM

AFaithL

Jan 13 2013, 03:04 PM

EJ_SamiFF

Jan 13 2013, 01:36 PM

Dee-anne

Jan 13 2013, 12:38 PM

^^It is more plausible than EJ being compared to him.

I can understand why some people compare EJ/Sami to Rhett/Scarlett .
Scarlett was vain, self-centered and insecure. She tried very hard to live up to the expectations of her society and she had a deep fear that her true self would be discovered. Rhett admires Scarlett's willful nature, and he discovers that they are alike in many ways. With Rhett Scarlett dosent have to hide, it becomes liberating for her. Ashley is a contrast to Rhett. He is a "honarable man" while Rhett is more ruthless and does what he has to do to survive. In the end Scarlett realized that she was chasing a dream with Ashley and that he wasn't who she really wanted.

Except, they've totally changed Sami's character. I would love it if they wrote Sami more like Scarlett. That's the real Sami: selfish and narcissistic, yet loves her family fiercely. Instead, Sami's been stripped of her Scarlett-ish personality and become a watered-down generic heroine with ni "edge". And EJ has lost his his suave "Rhett-ish" like personality. If they were written like Rhett/Scarlett, I could like it. Sami selfishly prancing around, thinking she wants good-guy Rafe(Ashley), and EJ making HER chase HIM, while remaining his confident, seductive self. Instead EJ has lost his balls, become a generic "good guy", and grovels.

No, this version of EJami is nothing like Rhett and Scarlett. With good writing they could be written like them, but Sami would have to go back to her roots and EJ will have to stop being her lapdog.

I don't really see how EJ became a "generic good guy". I don't see him as Sami's lap dog either. I see EJ as someone who's devoted to their family (children in particular), but that doesn't mean that he can't conduct some underhanded business deal at the same time. He fell inlove with Sami from the very beginning and always tried to get her. Nothing changed there. IMO he's no more of a lap dog than Lucas or Rafe. Heck, Lucas dumped his fiancee and left everything he established in Hong Kong for her. Rafe keeps chasing her IMO to mark his property and so that EJ wouldn't get her. And Sami is written more like a bitch now than she has been in a while instead of being Rafe's doormat.

All I know is that I don't want another rewrite. So far the beginnig and the middle is the same as all the other storylines involving Safe and Ejami. Lumi is non existent, and Lucas is written pathetically. The only good thing about his character is that BD gets paid something. Other than that, they've reduced his character to a glorified extra, which I find abhoring.

Harmony233

Jan 13 2013, 03:49 PM

honestly the only people that are doing anything bad in town are chad,kristen and kate at least kate never changes lol