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Spoilers for the Week of February 11th; *updated 2/5*
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Jan 31 2013, 09:38 AM
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Jan 30 2013, 04:16 PM

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Rafe hasn't gotten laid in over a year...if I'm counting right...so I don't get how bedding anyone makes him a whore...but that's beside the point.....
If being willing to sleep with Rafe a few days before doing EJ and flirting with EJ while involved with Lucas is evidence that Sami is a whore, despite not having slept with anyone since...when Spring? the same thing should apply to Rafe. Flirting with Carrie while married, jumping from Sami's couch to someone else's bed.
What makes Sami's behavior a bit odd in this instance is that she pretty much was willing to sleep with both men in a span of two weeks, if she wouldn't have been interrupted one time and stopped the other, she would have likely done both men. Kate is a slut, no question...so I expect that behavior from her...but Rafe hasn't had anything and if rebounding to Kate after finding out that Sami fucked Ej is whorish behavior in your eyes, then so be it....but frankly he hasn't even made a slight pass at any female since Carrie (which pretty much was almost a year ago)....and he's pretty much stayed celibate all this time...he could have seduced Nicole when he was playing daddy to her kid, but he didn't....Sami would have banged all three men if she got her chance to in a span of 4 months back a few months ago...so yeah...she's acting very whorish these days...
I'm not big on the whore and slut names for women, so I'm not going to go there, but as far as being sexually promiscuous, I think Sami's been in a much better place for the last 9 months than she was just prior to that. In Nov 2011, she had sex with EJ. From December 2011-Febrary 2012, she was presumably sleeping with Rafe. And then in early 2012 (April maybe?), she was sleeping with Lucas. IMO, she was much more promiscous in that 6 month run than she's been since then. I don't call her latest run slutty (partly because I don't like labeling women that way), but I would call it fickle.
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Sami was getting called a whore long before she was in this story about not being able to choose.
Well, she acts like one. She's a relatively unsuccessful one, though.
And what's going on with Rafe now is the same kind of thing that made people rip into Sami. If she were to have gone and found some random guy in a bar and taken him home a few days after she was willing to sleep with Rafe, we'd never hear the end of it. Especially when she's a whore when she has only been dating two guys and didn't even try to sleep with one of them before she chose which one she wanted to be with.
I think the way it's playing out is completely different. If they play it with him suddenly having feelings for this person, maybe. We'll see. I hope not because I have no desire to watch Rafe be a whore either. I don't care if he ever has sex again, lol.
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Sami was getting called a whore long before she was in this story about not being able to choose.
Well, she acts like one. She's a relatively unsuccessful one, though.
And what's going on with Rafe now is the same kind of thing that made people rip into Sami. If she were to have gone and found some random guy in a bar and taken him home a few days after she was willing to sleep with Rafe, we'd never hear the end of it. Especially when she's a whore when she has only been dating two guys and didn't even try to sleep with one of them before she chose which one she wanted to be with.
Well, that's true about Sami but it's because of how she's been juggling these 3 men around. Her actions are slutty for sure, and she has slept with EJ and Rafe and Lucas in the past year or so. But it's not just that. Its how she acts when there is a confrontation with any of them. AS plays it that Sami loves hurting the other person and pitting these men against each other. So if she were to go to a bar and hook up with someone, well, that would make her seem more slutty, yes. Rafe has only slept with Sami since he's been in Salem, and was going to do it recently because they were supposedly reuniting. So, in 4 years he's been with 1 woman. I don't see it as a problem that he goes to a bar and gets drunk and hooks up. Good for him. I'm happy to see him doing something or "someone" else for a change.
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If being willing to sleep with Rafe a few days before doing EJ and flirting with EJ while involved with Lucas is evidence that Sami is a whore, despite not having slept with anyone since...when Spring? the same thing should apply to Rafe. Flirting with Carrie while married, jumping from Sami's couch to someone else's bed.
What makes Sami's behavior a bit odd in this instance is that she pretty much was willing to sleep with both men in a span of two weeks, if she wouldn't have been interrupted one time and stopped the other, she would have likely done both men. Kate is a slut, no question...so I expect that behavior from her...but Rafe hasn't had anything and if rebounding to Kate after finding out that Sami fucked Ej is whorish behavior in your eyes, then so be it....but frankly he hasn't even made a slight pass at any female since Carrie (which pretty much was almost a year ago)....and he's pretty much stayed celibate all this time...he could have seduced Nicole when he was playing daddy to her kid, but he didn't....Sami would have banged all three men if she got her chance to in a span of 4 months back a few months ago...so yeah...she's acting very whorish these days...
I'm not big on the whore and slut names for women, so I'm not going to go there, but as far as being sexually promiscuous, I think Sami's been in a much better place for the last 9 months than she was just prior to that. In Nov 2011, she had sex with EJ. From December 2011-Febrary 2012, she was presumably sleeping with Rafe. And then in early 2012 (April maybe?), she was sleeping with Lucas. IMO, she was much more promiscous in that 6 month run than she's been since then. I don't call her latest run slutty (partly because I don't like labeling women that way), but I would call it fickle.
I think she's been worse the last two months. She's just been unsuccessful. The writing for her has been incredibly unflattering and I already think she sucks.
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Jan 31 2013, 10:56 AM
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What makes Sami's behavior a bit odd in this instance is that she pretty much was willing to sleep with both men in a span of two weeks, if she wouldn't have been interrupted one time and stopped the other, she would have likely done both men. Kate is a slut, no question...so I expect that behavior from her...but Rafe hasn't had anything and if rebounding to Kate after finding out that Sami fucked Ej is whorish behavior in your eyes, then so be it....but frankly he hasn't even made a slight pass at any female since Carrie (which pretty much was almost a year ago)....and he's pretty much stayed celibate all this time...he could have seduced Nicole when he was playing daddy to her kid, but he didn't....Sami would have banged all three men if she got her chance to in a span of 4 months back a few months ago...so yeah...she's acting very whorish these days...
I'm not big on the whore and slut names for women, so I'm not going to go there, but as far as being sexually promiscuous, I think Sami's been in a much better place for the last 9 months than she was just prior to that. In Nov 2011, she had sex with EJ. From December 2011-Febrary 2012, she was presumably sleeping with Rafe. And then in early 2012 (April maybe?), she was sleeping with Lucas. IMO, she was much more promiscous in that 6 month run than she's been since then. I don't call her latest run slutty (partly because I don't like labeling women that way), but I would call it fickle.
I think she's been worse the last two months. She's just been unsuccessful. The writing for her has been incredibly unflattering and I already think she sucks.
I would agree that the writing is shitty. She could be torn between two men without wanting to play tonsil hockey with each in the span of a few hours. To me, that's what makes her look so bad, not the fact that she is supposedly 'torn'.

The handling of Sami in the last year to please fan bases has taken a toll on her character.
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Well, she acts like one. She's a relatively unsuccessful one, though.
And what's going on with Rafe now is the same kind of thing that made people rip into Sami. If she were to have gone and found some random guy in a bar and taken him home a few days after she was willing to sleep with Rafe, we'd never hear the end of it. Especially when she's a whore when she has only been dating two guys and didn't even try to sleep with one of them before she chose which one she wanted to be with.
I think the way it's playing out is completely different. If they play it with him suddenly having feelings for this person, maybe. We'll see. I hope not because I have no desire to watch Rafe be a whore either. I don't care if he ever has sex again, lol.
I think suddenly having feelings for the person would make the situation better not worse, or it would if this weren't a morally neutral scenario.

As for Rafe only having slept with one woman, that's really only because he and Carrie never got the chance.
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If being willing to sleep with Rafe a few days before doing EJ and flirting with EJ while involved with Lucas is evidence that Sami is a whore, despite not having slept with anyone since...when Spring? the same thing should apply to Rafe. Flirting with Carrie while married, jumping from Sami's couch to someone else's bed.
What makes Sami's behavior a bit odd in this instance is that she pretty much was willing to sleep with both men in a span of two weeks, if she wouldn't have been interrupted one time and stopped the other, she would have likely done both men. Kate is a slut, no question...so I expect that behavior from her...but Rafe hasn't had anything and if rebounding to Kate after finding out that Sami fucked Ej is whorish behavior in your eyes, then so be it....but frankly he hasn't even made a slight pass at any female since Carrie (which pretty much was almost a year ago)....and he's pretty much stayed celibate all this time...he could have seduced Nicole when he was playing daddy to her kid, but he didn't....Sami would have banged all three men if she got her chance to in a span of 4 months back a few months ago...so yeah...she's acting very whorish these days...
I'm not big on the whore and slut names for women, so I'm not going to go there, but as far as being sexually promiscuous, I think Sami's been in a much better place for the last 9 months than she was just prior to that. In Nov 2011, she had sex with EJ. From December 2011-Febrary 2012, she was presumably sleeping with Rafe. And then in early 2012 (April maybe?), she was sleeping with Lucas. IMO, she was much more promiscous in that 6 month run than she's been since then. I don't call her latest run slutty (partly because I don't like labeling women that way), but I would call it fickle.
Since when do we care about calling fictional characters sluts, and whores? Nicole has gotten her fare share of that type of name calling by the show and posters alike and now we care? Yeah, not buying it.... The only thing that TRULY bugs me is when they actually label her a porn star or a prostitute...and it's not because they call her a porn star or a hooker, it's because neither are true...I just wish that every time the show would call her that, a character would come and give the audience the specifics...mention how and WHY she created that ONE porn flick.
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Let's face it, Lucas and Dan were once slutty men too. But once they give their hearts, they are true. Sami use to be a pain in the neck girl, but she stayed faithful. I wouldn't call her slutty, but she is too old to be that fickle. Nicole has reformed her trampy ways too, I respect her for that. It is sad they destroyed Chloe's character. She was true to Phillip, Brady, Dan and Lucas too until she messed up.
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personally i hate the way sami toys with these men feelings like when she took that braclet lucas gave her last year instead of being honest with him and telling him she wanted to be with EJ she toyed with him and i see her doing the same thing with RAFe and EJ
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Jan 31 2013, 11:39 AM
personally i hate the way sami toys with these men feelings like when she took that braclet lucas gave her last year instead of being honest with him and telling him she wanted to be with EJ she toyed with him and i see her doing the same thing with RAFe and EJ
I'm kinda looking forward to seeing Sami toying with EJ in bed.
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Jan 31 2013, 11:39 AM
personally i hate the way sami toys with these men feelings like when she took that braclet lucas gave her last year instead of being honest with him and telling him she wanted to be with EJ she toyed with him and i see her doing the same thing with RAFe and EJ
They should all walk away from her but they don't. Frankly Sami brings nothing to the table any longer for any of these men.

With Lucas she uses and throws him away like yesterday's trash. Calls him when she needs him but doesn't show a lick of loyalty to him after the initial, 'Thanks' moment has passed.

With Rafe she cheated on him when he's shown such loyalty to her. He was willing to spend his life not working as a cop/FBI guy simply to be able to cover for her for shooting EJ. INstead of running to him for comfort she runs to the man that tried to kill him.

With Ej she's constantly stating how if he would change into the man she thinks he could be, she'd be able to love him. He's doing just that and will likely continue to do that, it's only a matter of time before she betrays him too....by proving to him that not even with him turning himself into an Everett pretzel to make her happy she can love him.

Sami isn't capable of loving any man anymore....she has become a champion of the 'love the one I'm with' syndrome.
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Vicky4Mimi
Jan 31 2013, 09:56 AM
OMG! All this "Rafe loved Carrie" stuff is not true. We ALL heard Carrie tell Rafe that she knew he still loved Sami, and had loved her all along. Rafe told Sami that there wasn't a day or a minute that he didn't still love her/SAMI. Carrie, who usually thinks all men love her, would not have given Sami so much credit if she didn't know for a FACT that Rafe loves/loved/ and continues to love Sami.

Rafe's little fling he's about to have, is most likely in spite of Sami...just as Sami's stupid fling with EJ is most likely to spite Rafe because he didn't just jump to defend her and her son but dared to protect his baby sister. That's who Rafe is--and Sami knows that--why she would expect any different is beyond me, but beside the point.

The Rafester is not a whore. Sami on the other hand, I can certainly see why people would call her that. She is willing to jump on any man who gives her any attention at this point.

Good job LL.

That's just not so. What played out on screen was that Rafe clearly fell in love with Carrie and planned to build a life with her, despite how much it would hurt other people. He told her he loved her, they planned to be together and the only thing that put a stop to it was that she wound up pregnant with her husband's baby and chose to leave town in order to try to rebuild their relationship. Rafe had no choice in that matter - Carrie left him. Regardless of what she said to him about thinking he still cared about Sami (which he denied at the time) it doesn't change the fact that he clearly was in love with her and ready and willing to move on from Sami. In fact, after Safe's initial break up while Carrie was still in town Rafe was shown to care very little about Sami or even give her much thought.

That is what played out on screen, like it or not. :shrug:
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While I'm not looking forward to hearing people call the show "The Days of Rafe's Wang," at least it'll be something new.
Seriously, Rafe is a total whore.

And I NEED the show to change it's name to The Days of Rafe's Wang. I mean I NEED it. Like, to survive.

Or at least for a good laugh every now and then.

Maybe this time he hooks up with Kate. And then next week, Anne. Then Chloe, Nicole, Jennifer, Maggie and Caroline. Leading to a last and final romp and then engagement to Maxine.

Then we can talk about Rafe's glittery hoo wang all the live long day.
Rafe hasn't gotten laid in over a year...if I'm counting right...so I don't get how bedding anyone makes him a whore...but that's beside the point.....
Neither has Sami, but everyone calls her one.

At least Sami CARES for who she beds, unlike that hairy hornball Rafe.

Unless, he truly does care for Kate/Hope/Chloe and I just missed that memo.

ETA: I think she did sleep with Lucas last summer - I had forgotten since they didn't show anything this time. What made me remember was the MOOBIES!
Edited by michelle, Jan 31 2013, 12:11 PM.
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Seriously, Rafe is a total whore.

And I NEED the show to change it's name to The Days of Rafe's Wang. I mean I NEED it. Like, to survive.

Or at least for a good laugh every now and then.

Maybe this time he hooks up with Kate. And then next week, Anne. Then Chloe, Nicole, Jennifer, Maggie and Caroline. Leading to a last and final romp and then engagement to Maxine.

Then we can talk about Rafe's glittery hoo wang all the live long day.
Rafe hasn't gotten laid in over a year...if I'm counting right...so I don't get how bedding anyone makes him a whore...but that's beside the point.....
Neither has Sami, but everyone calls her one.

At least Sami CARES for who she beds, unlike that hairy hornball Rafe.

Unless, he truly does care for Kate/Hope/Chloe and I just missed that memo.
I've seen no evidence that she cares about anyone that's not herself.
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Rafe hasn't gotten laid in over a year...if I'm counting right...so I don't get how bedding anyone makes him a whore...but that's beside the point.....
Neither has Sami, but everyone calls her one.

At least Sami CARES for who she beds, unlike that hairy hornball Rafe.

Unless, he truly does care for Kate/Hope/Chloe and I just missed that memo.
I've seen no evidence that she cares about anyone that's not herself.
isn't that the truth
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Seriously, Rafe is a total whore.

And I NEED the show to change it's name to The Days of Rafe's Wang. I mean I NEED it. Like, to survive.

Or at least for a good laugh every now and then.

Maybe this time he hooks up with Kate. And then next week, Anne. Then Chloe, Nicole, Jennifer, Maggie and Caroline. Leading to a last and final romp and then engagement to Maxine.

Then we can talk about Rafe's glittery hoo wang all the live long day.
Rafe hasn't gotten laid in over a year...if I'm counting right...so I don't get how bedding anyone makes him a whore...but that's beside the point.....
Neither has Sami, but everyone calls her one.

At least Sami CARES for who she beds, unlike that hairy hornball Rafe.

Unless, he truly does care for Kate/Hope/Chloe and I just missed that memo.
But I don't believe she cares for them. Not really anyway.

The argument can be made that she has TOO MANY FEELINGS, and CARES TOO MUCH for each and everyone one of her men, past, present and future. This was a mini-convo Lumi had once when they were reconnecting and ultimately decided not to have sex right away to make their reconnection more meaningful or seemingly stable. That she wished she were just the cold-hearted bitch everyone thought she was, and that she didn't have a mushy heart with so many feelings spilling out everywhere and no where to put them. At the time I found that so friggin endearing and honest. You are right, Sami, you have all these feelings and you feel so deeply and if only you could find somewhere to invest those feelings!! You rock Sami!!!

My attitude towards her has since changed, of course. To my mind, having conflicting, powerful feelings for two-three men through which your rotate is not tantamount to caring too much, or really caring at all. The feelings sort of negate each other in my mind. Like boy crying wolf or something. I don't think it's impossible to have more than one great love in your life. But Sami's merry-go-round behavior, at least for me, undermines or minimizes the love that she is meant to feel at any one time for any one man. I just don't take her seriously any more in that regard. I don't feel her feelings are sincere. So I don't feel like she really cares for her men. I guess they aren't randoms she picks up at a bar. But if Sami had basically been involved with one man for several years, broke up with him in spectacularly miserable fashion, and then had a ONS, I wouldn't call her a slut or a whore or even fickle. Maybe it's that Sami is a tease, and that is what frustrates me about her, and makes me inclined to agree with people who call the show the Days of Sami's Vagine or comparable monikers. But that she can move from one man to the next and back again, have so many half-open-mouth moments (I call it boudoir mouth), seem to enjoy playing some of these men against each other sometimes, be ready to marry one man but angrily demand the other one fight for her, etc., I think some of that is what casts her in a fickly/semi-slutty light. And makes it feel like the show is so concerned with her revolving door nether regions. Maybe that is unfair - she is not sleeping with a different man every night or anything. But even if you just think of it as a revolving-door heart, I dunno - it's been too long and she is too old imo for that to be cute or even tolerable. And I don't think Rafe having a ONS, even if it becomes a relationship, isn't comparable to years of this behavior from Sami.
Edited by elci525, Jan 31 2013, 12:39 PM.
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Seriously, Rafe is a total whore.

And I NEED the show to change it's name to The Days of Rafe's Wang. I mean I NEED it. Like, to survive.

Or at least for a good laugh every now and then.

Maybe this time he hooks up with Kate. And then next week, Anne. Then Chloe, Nicole, Jennifer, Maggie and Caroline. Leading to a last and final romp and then engagement to Maxine.

Then we can talk about Rafe's glittery hoo wang all the live long day.
Rafe hasn't gotten laid in over a year...if I'm counting right...so I don't get how bedding anyone makes him a whore...but that's beside the point.....
Neither has Sami, but everyone calls her one.

At least Sami CARES for who she beds, unlike that hairy hornball Rafe.

Unless, he truly does care for Kate/Hope/Chloe and I just missed that memo.

ETA: I think she did sleep with Lucas last summer - I had forgotten since they didn't show anything this time. What made me remember was the MOOBIES!
Sami slept with Lucas in April or May or both. And she would have slept with EJ or Rafe, take your pick, on any given day since then. Rafe, EJ and Lucas have only slept with or attempted to sleep with her. She tries to play musical beds but gets interupted each time.
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It wasn't a spam of two weeks. It was the exact same day.
It was not the same day. And to LL, Rafe is going to have been willing to sleep with both women, too. It's not like he put a stop to things with Sami. Hope did.
It's happened more than once. Rafe isn't in the middle ofa story about him wanting two women. It's just not at all comparable. I have my own issues with it, but Rafe hooking up with someone in a bar well after breaking things off with Sami is completely different from Sami going back and forth between two men because she can't choose. That one kiss happened with Carrie while he was with Sami, but he didn't go straight from one to the other. He didn't get the chance to. It might have been different if Sami hasn't immediately caught them, but she did. Ultimately though, we've been getting different ' heat' spoilers for Sami for weeks. One week this man, one week the other. That hasn't happened with Rafe.
Here's the difference though, despite the fact that you don't think Sami cares about anyone but herself, because you personally hate the character and the actress, she DOES.

She IS torn about both men and has been for A VERY LONG TIME. It didn't just start 5 minutes ago, it started years ago in the safe house when she was pregnant with Sydney, loved EJ and was developing feelings for Rafe.

I'm not saying that she loves EJ more than Rafe or that her recent fights with Rafe negates her feelings for him, but that doesn't change the fact that she still cares about EJ too.

Rafe is getting ready to have sex with someone that he does not care about/love/whatever/etc., and that TO ME, makes him more of a whore, than Sami will ever be.

A one night stand is definitely more whorish than being torn between two men you have deep feelings for.
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It's happened more than once. Rafe isn't in the middle ofa story about him wanting two women. It's just not at all comparable. I have my own issues with it, but Rafe hooking up with someone in a bar well after breaking things off with Sami is completely different from Sami going back and forth between two men because she can't choose. That one kiss happened with Carrie while he was with Sami, but he didn't go straight from one to the other. He didn't get the chance to. It might have been different if Sami hasn't immediately caught them, but she did. Ultimately though, we've been getting different ' heat' spoilers for Sami for weeks. One week this man, one week the other. That hasn't happened with Rafe.
Sami was getting called a whore long before she was in this story about not being able to choose.
I think 'whorish' is a bit too harsh of a description for Sami's behaviour. I believe 'slutty' is more accurate to the situation.
Then she is the sluttiest person I've ever seen not have sex for 9 months with anyone.
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Jan 30 2013, 04:16 PM

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Rafe hasn't gotten laid in over a year...if I'm counting right...so I don't get how bedding anyone makes him a whore...but that's beside the point.....
Neither has Sami, but everyone calls her one.

At least Sami CARES for who she beds, unlike that hairy hornball Rafe.

Unless, he truly does care for Kate/Hope/Chloe and I just missed that memo.
But I don't believe she cares for them. Not really anyway.

The argument can be made that she has TOO MANY FEELINGS, and CARES TOO MUCH for each and everyone one of her men, past, present and future. This was a mini-convo Lumi had once when they were reconnecting and ultimately decided not to have sex right away to make their reconnection more meaningful or seemingly stable. That she wished she were just the cold-hearted bitch everyone thought she was, and that she didn't have a mushy heart with so many feelings spilling out everywhere and no where to put them. At the time I found that so friggin endearing and honest. You are right, Sami, you have all these feelings and you feel so deeply and if only you could find somewhere to invest those feelings!! You rock Sami!!!

My attitude towards her has since changed, of course. To my mind, having conflicting, powerful feelings for two-three men through which your rotate is not tantamount to caring too much, or really caring at all. The feelings sort of negate each other in my mind. Like boy crying wolf or something. I don't think it's impossible to have more than one great love in your life. But Sami's merry-go-round behavior, at least for me, undermines or minimizes the love that she is meant to feel at any one time for any one man. I just don't take her seriously any more in that regard. I don't feel her feelings are sincere. So I don't feel like she really cares for her men. I guess they aren't randoms she picks up at a bar. But if Sami had basically been involved with one man for several years, broke up with him in spectacularly miserable fashion, and then had a ONS, I wouldn't call her a slut or a whore or even fickle. Maybe it's that Sami is a tease, and that is what frustrates me about her, and makes me inclined to agree with people who call the show the Days of Sami's Vagine or comparable monikers. But that she can move from one man to the next and back again, have so many half-open-mouth moments (I call it boudoir mouth), seem to enjoy playing some of these men against each other sometimes, be ready to marry one man but angrily demand the other one fight for her, etc., I think some of that is what casts her in a fickly/semi-slutty light. And makes it feel like the show is so concerned with her revolving door nether regions. Maybe that is unfair - she is not sleeping with a different man every night or anything. But even if you just think of it as a revolving-door heart, I dunno - it's been too long and she is too old imo for that to be cute or even tolerable. And I don't think Rafe having a ONS, even if it becomes a relationship, is comparable to years of this behavior from Sami.
If she had been truly in love with EJ she wouldn't have chosen Rafe and if she was truly in love with Rafe she couldn't bed EJ so easily. What the girl really needs is a vibrator.......turned up at warped speed instead of spreading her big thighs for the next man who's willing and ending up pregnant again.
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