Miss Rhi

Feb 1 2013, 01:50 PM

Why does it seem like Sami is having to apologize to EJ over and over? He's not doing any apologizing and for the past couple of days has just let Sami do all of the talking. Something just seems so weird about it all.

EJ_SamiFF

Feb 1 2013, 01:58 PM

Hey Hope
Why don't you get with Rafe since your far up his ass. Rope ftw.

elci525

Feb 1 2013, 01:54 PM

I really feel like I've walked into some strange twilight zone. I mean, ugh, what's the point. I am just letting this happen I've decided.

I still am weirded out by how Sami acts around EJ. She has never seemed "natural" around him for my tastes, no matter how much he is supposed to accept and love the true Sami or whatever. Their conversations always sound so strained to me. Now more than ever. All this apologizing from Sami. And EJ is still in pretty severe rom com mood, so this doesn't feel all that, I dunno, authentic to me. But I don't like them so I suppose I am very biased.

Oh yes, and it's always only been an ex pounding on the door or someone stomping their feet to get in your way, Ejami. Nothing ever more internal and less "other people are out to get us." But I see we have more of this "you are a good man and the man I always thought you could be talk". Interesting.

What are they drinking? Creme de Menthe? It looks like laundry detergent.

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 01:54 PM

JessicaLeigh

Feb 1 2013, 01:44 PM

More comments from EJami erasing the past. I guess Nicole and the travesty of Taylor never happened? Sigh. Whatever.

Erasing or explaining? Many long time Ejami fans have said exactly this about Sami and EJ's past relationships these last few years. They have always maintained that Nicole was a place holder since he couldn't have Sami and Sami was with Rafe because she thought she 'should' be - he was the one that would gain acceptance from her family/Salem.

It seems to be playing out pretty much the way I've been reading posts. Some really hate Sami or EJ or both - and nothing said or done between them or with them will ever satisfy a segment of viewers, but I'm guessing diehard Ejami fans are pretty much over the moon right now. Everything they have said was just validated by both EJ AND Sami the last couple of shows.

cockymom

Feb 1 2013, 02:01 PM

If they can't rustle up a bed for EJ and Sami I'm going to be a little pissed! That couch just isn't going to do it for me.

Miss Rhi

Feb 1 2013, 01:50 PM

Why does it seem like Sami is having to apologize to EJ over and over? He's not doing any apologizing and for the past couple of days has just let Sami do all of the talking. Something just seems so weird about it all.

Harlee Kin

Feb 1 2013, 02:35 PM

Miss Rhi

Feb 1 2013, 01:50 PM

Why does it seem like Sami is having to apologize to EJ over and over? He's not doing any apologizing and for the past couple of days has just let Sami do all of the talking. Something just seems so weird about it all.

This is one of my big objections. I want to know what kind of guy, that LOVES you so very very much, hires a creepy criminal to screw you while you wine and dine another woman? EJ of course. Fans can ignore the gun toting "foreplay" in Lexie's car, justify EJ screwing other women, say Sami deserved to have Syney kidnapped but me, forget it. I saw the show, I remember how it went down.


So why is she apologizing to him!? :soapbox:

Women, if you want a man like EJ, okay. But why would you?

esp13

Feb 1 2013, 02:03 PM

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 01:54 PM

JessicaLeigh

Feb 1 2013, 01:44 PM

More comments from EJami erasing the past. I guess Nicole and the travesty of Taylor never happened? Sigh. Whatever.

Erasing or explaining? Many long time Ejami fans have said exactly this about Sami and EJ's past relationships these last few years. They have always maintained that Nicole was a place holder since he couldn't have Sami and Sami was with Rafe because she thought she 'should' be - he was the one that would gain acceptance from her family/Salem.

It seems to be playing out pretty much the way I've been reading posts. Some really hate Sami or EJ or both - and nothing said or done between them or with them will ever satisfy a segment of viewers, but I'm guessing diehard Ejami fans are pretty much over the moon right now. Everything they have said was just validated by both EJ AND Sami the last couple of shows.

Yes, I'm sure they are. But them saying things that the fans have said doesn't make it good writing when it doesn't match what actually played out onscreen. EJole v. 1.0, sure. But the second time around, there was nothing about that which suggested that Nicole was a "placeholder." Nothing about Rafe and Sami's relationship suggested Sami was with him because she "should" be, until Sami said it yesterday.

Those motivations were fanwanks and while I totally understand it, it doesn't make them match what played on the screen. And so yes, those of use who are not "diehard Ejamis" are not over the moon because even if I don't care about the couple, I would like a story that makes some kind of damn sense. And this simply doesn't.

And what makes it worse is that it could have. They could have gone there and made it make sense (and, I would bet, also make EJami fans happy). But they took the easy way out. And it's doubly disappointing because, in other stories, they seem to be actually building the layers and exploring them. Here, they just ripped them right away.

Matt

Feb 1 2013, 02:05 PM

that fucking hotel room is ugly as homemade sin dipped in misery

Supergirlx2

Feb 1 2013, 02:10 PM

EJ_SamiFF

Feb 1 2013, 01:58 PM

Hey Hope
Why don't you get with Rafe since your far up his ass. Rope ftw.

i think Hope just doesn't like EJ and doesn't want Sami getting involved with him because she knows that it will end in disaster. She only told Rafe that Sami had his heart because that was what Sami had told her. It wasn't her assuming anything. If it had been Lucas that Sami had hooked up with before the wedding and been the topic of Hope & Sami's conversation & then was the one sitting across from Hope, it would've been the same exact conversation, just with Lucas & Rafe's names changed.
I don't think Hope has a preference about Lucas & Rafe, she would just prefer anyone other than EJ be with Sami.

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 02:56 PM

esp13

Feb 1 2013, 02:03 PM

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 01:54 PM

JessicaLeigh

Feb 1 2013, 01:44 PM

More comments from EJami erasing the past. I guess Nicole and the travesty of Taylor never happened? Sigh. Whatever.

Erasing or explaining? Many long time Ejami fans have said exactly this about Sami and EJ's past relationships these last few years. They have always maintained that Nicole was a place holder since he couldn't have Sami and Sami was with Rafe because she thought she 'should' be - he was the one that would gain acceptance from her family/Salem.

It seems to be playing out pretty much the way I've been reading posts. Some really hate Sami or EJ or both - and nothing said or done between them or with them will ever satisfy a segment of viewers, but I'm guessing diehard Ejami fans are pretty much over the moon right now. Everything they have said was just validated by both EJ AND Sami the last couple of shows.

Yes, I'm sure they are. But them saying things that the fans have said doesn't make it good writing when it doesn't match what actually played out onscreen. EJole v. 1.0, sure. But the second time around, there was nothing about that which suggested that Nicole was a "placeholder." Nothing about Rafe and Sami's relationship suggested Sami was with him because she "should" be, until Sami said it yesterday.

Those motivations were fanwanks and while I totally understand it, it doesn't make them match what played on the screen. And so yes, those of use who are not "diehard Ejamis" are not over the moon because even if I don't care about the couple, I would like a story that makes some kind of damn sense. And this simply doesn't.

And what makes it worse is that it could have. They could have gone there and made it make sense (and, I would bet, also make EJami fans happy). But they took the easy way out. And it's doubly disappointing because, in other stories, they seem to be actually building the layers and exploring them. Here, they just ripped them right away.

I disagree- I do think we saw some of this play out on screen. Especially the bit about Sami's family. Part of it was also the horrific writing over the last few years. Samantha Gene never paired well with Rafe. She had to play damsal in distress to his superhero. Didn't work. I think it would be amazing if soaps were able to craft stories and allow them to play out like they used to - but that luxury is gone. I think TPTB finally got their head out of their asses with this triangle and committed to EJ/Sami and decided to do it as quickly as possible. It sure wasn't perfect, but I certainly don't believe it was fan wanking..

I truly believe that certain segments of the audience will never accept EJ/Sami. If this played out over months, with a slow build, the same folks would be posting the same stuff. IMO it doenst' matter how long it takes on screen , the end result is the same. Some love it and some don't

Matt

Feb 1 2013, 02:00 PM

Today's episode is by the exact same people who did yesterday's -- Steven Williford directed from a script written by Melissa Salmons.

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 02:56 PM

esp13

Feb 1 2013, 02:03 PM

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 01:54 PM

JessicaLeigh

Feb 1 2013, 01:44 PM

More comments from EJami erasing the past. I guess Nicole and the travesty of Taylor never happened? Sigh. Whatever.

Erasing or explaining? Many long time Ejami fans have said exactly this about Sami and EJ's past relationships these last few years. They have always maintained that Nicole was a place holder since he couldn't have Sami and Sami was with Rafe because she thought she 'should' be - he was the one that would gain acceptance from her family/Salem.

It seems to be playing out pretty much the way I've been reading posts. Some really hate Sami or EJ or both - and nothing said or done between them or with them will ever satisfy a segment of viewers, but I'm guessing diehard Ejami fans are pretty much over the moon right now. Everything they have said was just validated by both EJ AND Sami the last couple of shows.

Yes, I'm sure they are. But them saying things that the fans have said doesn't make it good writing when it doesn't match what actually played out onscreen. EJole v. 1.0, sure. But the second time around, there was nothing about that which suggested that Nicole was a "placeholder." Nothing about Rafe and Sami's relationship suggested Sami was with him because she "should" be, until Sami said it yesterday.

Those motivations were fanwanks and while I totally understand it, it doesn't make them match what played on the screen. And so yes, those of use who are not "diehard Ejamis" are not over the moon because even if I don't care about the couple, I would like a story that makes some kind of damn sense. And this simply doesn't.

And what makes it worse is that it could have. They could have gone there and made it make sense (and, I would bet, also make EJami fans happy). But they took the easy way out. And it's doubly disappointing because, in other stories, they seem to be actually building the layers and exploring them. Here, they just ripped them right away.

I disagree- I do think we saw some of this play out on screen. Especially the bit about Sami's family. Part of it was also the horrific writing over the last few years. Samantha Gene never paired well with Rafe. She had to play damsal in distress to his superhero. Didn't work. I think it would be amazing if soaps were able to craft stories and allow them to play out like they used to - but that luxury is gone. I think TPTB finally got their head out of their asses with this triangle and committed to EJ/Sami and decided to do it as quickly as possible. It sure wasn't perfect, but I certainly don't believe it was fan wanking..

I truly believe that certain segments of the audience will never accept EJ/Sami. If this played out over months, with a slow build, the same folks would be posting the same stuff. IMO it doenst' matter how long it takes on screen , the end result is the same. Some love it and some don't

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 02:56 PM

esp13

Feb 1 2013, 02:03 PM

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 01:54 PM

JessicaLeigh

Feb 1 2013, 01:44 PM

More comments from EJami erasing the past. I guess Nicole and the travesty of Taylor never happened? Sigh. Whatever.

Erasing or explaining? Many long time Ejami fans have said exactly this about Sami and EJ's past relationships these last few years. They have always maintained that Nicole was a place holder since he couldn't have Sami and Sami was with Rafe because she thought she 'should' be - he was the one that would gain acceptance from her family/Salem.

It seems to be playing out pretty much the way I've been reading posts. Some really hate Sami or EJ or both - and nothing said or done between them or with them will ever satisfy a segment of viewers, but I'm guessing diehard Ejami fans are pretty much over the moon right now. Everything they have said was just validated by both EJ AND Sami the last couple of shows.

Yes, I'm sure they are. But them saying things that the fans have said doesn't make it good writing when it doesn't match what actually played out onscreen. EJole v. 1.0, sure. But the second time around, there was nothing about that which suggested that Nicole was a "placeholder." Nothing about Rafe and Sami's relationship suggested Sami was with him because she "should" be, until Sami said it yesterday.

Those motivations were fanwanks and while I totally understand it, it doesn't make them match what played on the screen. And so yes, those of use who are not "diehard Ejamis" are not over the moon because even if I don't care about the couple, I would like a story that makes some kind of damn sense. And this simply doesn't.

And what makes it worse is that it could have. They could have gone there and made it make sense (and, I would bet, also make EJami fans happy). But they took the easy way out. And it's doubly disappointing because, in other stories, they seem to be actually building the layers and exploring them. Here, they just ripped them right away.

I disagree- I do think we saw some of this play out on screen. Especially the bit about Sami's family. Part of it was also the horrific writing over the last few years. Samantha Gene never paired well with Rafe. She had to play damsal in distress to his superhero. Didn't work. I think it would be amazing if soaps were able to craft stories and allow them to play out like they used to - but that luxury is gone. I think TPTB finally got their head out of their asses with this triangle and committed to EJ/Sami and decided to do it as quickly as possible. It sure wasn't perfect, but I certainly don't believe it was fan wanking..

I truly believe that certain segments of the audience will never accept EJ/Sami. If this played out over months, with a slow build, the same folks would be posting the same stuff. IMO it doenst' matter how long it takes on screen , the end result is the same. Some love it and some don't

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 02:56 PM

esp13

Feb 1 2013, 02:03 PM

AidanGreensFan

Feb 1 2013, 01:54 PM

JessicaLeigh

Feb 1 2013, 01:44 PM

More comments from EJami erasing the past. I guess Nicole and the travesty of Taylor never happened? Sigh. Whatever.

Erasing or explaining? Many long time Ejami fans have said exactly this about Sami and EJ's past relationships these last few years. They have always maintained that Nicole was a place holder since he couldn't have Sami and Sami was with Rafe because she thought she 'should' be - he was the one that would gain acceptance from her family/Salem.

It seems to be playing out pretty much the way I've been reading posts. Some really hate Sami or EJ or both - and nothing said or done between them or with them will ever satisfy a segment of viewers, but I'm guessing diehard Ejami fans are pretty much over the moon right now. Everything they have said was just validated by both EJ AND Sami the last couple of shows.

Yes, I'm sure they are. But them saying things that the fans have said doesn't make it good writing when it doesn't match what actually played out onscreen. EJole v. 1.0, sure. But the second time around, there was nothing about that which suggested that Nicole was a "placeholder." Nothing about Rafe and Sami's relationship suggested Sami was with him because she "should" be, until Sami said it yesterday.

Those motivations were fanwanks and while I totally understand it, it doesn't make them match what played on the screen. And so yes, those of use who are not "diehard Ejamis" are not over the moon because even if I don't care about the couple, I would like a story that makes some kind of damn sense. And this simply doesn't.

And what makes it worse is that it could have. They could have gone there and made it make sense (and, I would bet, also make EJami fans happy). But they took the easy way out. And it's doubly disappointing because, in other stories, they seem to be actually building the layers and exploring them. Here, they just ripped them right away.

I disagree- I do think we saw some of this play out on screen. Especially the bit about Sami's family. Part of it was also the horrific writing over the last few years. Samantha Gene never paired well with Rafe. She had to play damsal in distress to his superhero. Didn't work. I think it would be amazing if soaps were able to craft stories and allow them to play out like they used to - but that luxury is gone. I think TPTB finally got their head out of their asses with this triangle and committed to EJ/Sami and decided to do it as quickly as possible. It sure wasn't perfect, but I certainly don't believe it was fan wanking..

I truly believe that certain segments of the audience will never accept EJ/Sami. If this played out over months, with a slow build, the same folks would be posting the same stuff. IMO it doenst' matter how long it takes on screen , the end result is the same. Some love it and some don't