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Video: Ali and James discuss Ejami
Topic Started: Feb 14 2013, 03:23 PM (7,045 Views)
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They can put out a million videos raving about how great they are ... they can force feed the viewers Sami and EJ having sex 24 / 7 ... they can do interviews from here to the ends of the earth with every newspaper and magazine in the world ... they can pimp and pimp and pimp and pimp but NOTHING will ever make me see Sami and EJ as a viable romantic pairing. I know there are many other viewers that feel the same way I do. I understand they have their fanbase and that fanbase is happy but I honestly do believe that this time they are trying way too hard to convince the general audience that Sami and EJ are this great love story and that is a complete turnoff to me and sheer nonsense as far as I'm concerned.
I can relate to how you feel because I recall the exact same stuff being done when Safe was together for these past few years. It's EJami's turn now and I for one am thrilled, but if you aren't a fan of the couple it's not fun. I know, believe me.
That's true I'm not a fan of the couple but I am happy for their fans, you've stuck it out a long time!
Thank you! :cheers:
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Awwww! Adorable! What a cute interview!

I hope EJ and Sami can get a little more "bad" together than they have been lately. I like the anti-Brady and the Dimera Prince. ;)
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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I agree that it doesn't have to be black and white, but I do think it has been. I see some potential for that to change but so far I've seen no evidence that it actually will. I think ejami are basically safe right now, lol.


There's no way EJami is Safe right now. Sami's family couldn't have loved Rafe anymore and couldn't have been more thrilled she was with him. Quite the contrast from the reaction she's getting announcing she is with EJ....and I wouldn't have it any other way.

I definitely agree the writing has been more black and white. I just don't agree with talking in absolutes like, "EJ's dark side is over" because nobody knows that. Especially when you've got people like Caroline, Kayla and Marlena reminding us of it, not to mention the usual suspects like Rafe. I like that they keep that potential alive and depending on circumstance, I feel that he could go back there at any point in time if the situation arises.
Well I don't agree with your assessment of Sami's families feelings about Rafe (initially) but that's completely independent of what I'm talking about. Their families aren't particularly relevant to my opinion of how the characters are acting. Their scenes remind me of safe's scenes when they first got together in Salem.
Given that EJami have just gotten together romantically it stands to reason we're in a bit of a gushy period. I think they have to establish that the two of them are both all in and completely committed to one another. So it makes sense to me that those scenes are similar to just about any other newly minted couple.

Time will tell if we see them branch EJami out into becoming more than just a generic couple in love. I have high hopes they will based on comments we're hearing in interviews, etc. Personally I'm perfectly fine with them being total saps with one another (although the occasional fight followed by make up sex would be preferred) as long as we get to see them wreaking a bit of havoc elsewhere. Preferably together.
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There's no way EJami is Safe right now. Sami's family couldn't have loved Rafe anymore and couldn't have been more thrilled she was with him. Quite the contrast from the reaction she's getting announcing she is with EJ....and I wouldn't have it any other way.

I definitely agree the writing has been more black and white. I just don't agree with talking in absolutes like, "EJ's dark side is over" because nobody knows that. Especially when you've got people like Caroline, Kayla and Marlena reminding us of it, not to mention the usual suspects like Rafe. I like that they keep that potential alive and depending on circumstance, I feel that he could go back there at any point in time if the situation arises.
Well I don't agree with your assessment of Sami's families feelings about Rafe (initially) but that's completely independent of what I'm talking about. Their families aren't particularly relevant to my opinion of how the characters are acting. Their scenes remind me of safe's scenes when they first got together in Salem.
Given that EJami have just gotten together romantically it stands to reason we're in a bit of a gushy period. I think they have to establish that the two of them are both all in and completely committed to one another. So it makes sense to me that those scenes are similar to just about any other newly minted couple.

Time will tell if we see them branch EJami out into becoming more than just a generic couple in love. I have high hopes they will based on comments we're hearing in interviews, etc. Personally I'm perfectly fine with them being total saps with one another (although the occasional fight followed by make up sex would be preferred) as long as we get to see them wreaking a bit of havoc elsewhere. Preferably together.
Of course it's normal, lol. I didn't say it wasn't. I also said I see potential for them to make it more interesting.
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I agree that it doesn't have to be black and white, but I do think it has been. I see some potential for that to change but so far I've seen no evidence that it actually will. I think ejami are basically safe right now, lol.


There's no way EJami is Safe right now. Sami's family couldn't have loved Rafe anymore and couldn't have been more thrilled she was with him. Quite the contrast from the reaction she's getting announcing she is with EJ....and I wouldn't have it any other way.

I definitely agree the writing has been more black and white. I just don't agree with talking in absolutes like, "EJ's dark side is over" because nobody knows that. Especially when you've got people like Caroline, Kayla and Marlena reminding us of it, not to mention the usual suspects like Rafe. I like that they keep that potential alive and depending on circumstance, I feel that he could go back there at any point in time if the situation arises.
Well I don't agree with your assessment of Sami's families feelings about Rafe (initially) but that's completely independent of what I'm talking about. Their families aren't particularly relevant to my opinion of how the characters are acting. Their scenes remind me of safe's scenes when they first got together in Salem.
Well some people have suggested that Rafe and EJ have bascially just switched places and I can see what they mean. And Marlena warning Sami about EJ's dark side showing up one day sounds like if that happens it won't be something Sami will be glad to see. But if she's so in love with his dark side then why warn her about it maybe returning? I
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There's no way EJami is Safe right now. Sami's family couldn't have loved Rafe anymore and couldn't have been more thrilled she was with him. Quite the contrast from the reaction she's getting announcing she is with EJ....and I wouldn't have it any other way.

I definitely agree the writing has been more black and white. I just don't agree with talking in absolutes like, "EJ's dark side is over" because nobody knows that. Especially when you've got people like Caroline, Kayla and Marlena reminding us of it, not to mention the usual suspects like Rafe. I like that they keep that potential alive and depending on circumstance, I feel that he could go back there at any point in time if the situation arises.
Well I don't agree with your assessment of Sami's families feelings about Rafe (initially) but that's completely independent of what I'm talking about. Their families aren't particularly relevant to my opinion of how the characters are acting. Their scenes remind me of safe's scenes when they first got together in Salem.
Well some people have suggested that Rafe and EJ have bascially just switched places and I can see what they mean. And Marlena warning Sami about EJ's dark side showing up one day sounds like if that happens it won't be something Sami will be glad to see. But if she's so in love with his dark side then why warn her about it maybe returning? I
I think it depends on what is meant by "dark side." IMO, it's a matter of degree. I don't think Sami minds (and probably likes) that EJ is willing to do some illegal crap in relation to their business or to take care of their family. I think her fear of Stefano returning is him influencing EJ to do really bad stuff again - R2, Sydnapping, etc.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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Well I don't agree with your assessment of Sami's families feelings about Rafe (initially) but that's completely independent of what I'm talking about. Their families aren't particularly relevant to my opinion of how the characters are acting. Their scenes remind me of safe's scenes when they first got together in Salem.
Well some people have suggested that Rafe and EJ have bascially just switched places and I can see what they mean. And Marlena warning Sami about EJ's dark side showing up one day sounds like if that happens it won't be something Sami will be glad to see. But if she's so in love with his dark side then why warn her about it maybe returning? I
I think it depends on what is meant by "dark side." IMO, it's a matter of degree. I don't think Sami minds (and probably likes) that EJ is willing to do some illegal crap in relation to their business or to take care of their family. I think her fear of Stefano returning is him influencing EJ to do really bad stuff again - R2, Sydnapping, etc.
I also think Marlena has bigger issues with EJ's dark side than Sami does or will, thus she feels she needs to 'warn' her.
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I don't think that Sami could really have an issue with EJ doing something underhanded to protect her or the children- heck, the Brady PD has been covering her butt for years. As far as Stefano's influence-if I recall correctly EJ was an eager co-conspirator with both Fafe and the Sydnapping. It's not like he is an altar boy without daddykins around.
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Well I don't agree with your assessment of Sami's families feelings about Rafe (initially) but that's completely independent of what I'm talking about. Their families aren't particularly relevant to my opinion of how the characters are acting. Their scenes remind me of safe's scenes when they first got together in Salem.
Well some people have suggested that Rafe and EJ have bascially just switched places and I can see what they mean. And Marlena warning Sami about EJ's dark side showing up one day sounds like if that happens it won't be something Sami will be glad to see. But if she's so in love with his dark side then why warn her about it maybe returning? I
I think it depends on what is meant by "dark side." IMO, it's a matter of degree. I don't think Sami minds (and probably likes) that EJ is willing to do some illegal crap in relation to their business or to take care of their family. I think her fear of Stefano returning is him influencing EJ to do really bad stuff again - R2, Sydnapping, etc.
Stefano didn't influence Ej with the Sydnapping at all, he didn't know about it till a bit after he had done that....that was ALL EJ....and the Rafe2 bit, Ej could have taken himself out of the equation early on, but he chose not too because he specifically said that he wanted his children not to look up to Rafe as a person/father figure/man, whatever...he was just jealous of Johnny/Syd loving this man.....I specifically think that if anything it's proven that EJ can do very nefarious deeds without total influence from Stefano.
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Well some people have suggested that Rafe and EJ have bascially just switched places and I can see what they mean. And Marlena warning Sami about EJ's dark side showing up one day sounds like if that happens it won't be something Sami will be glad to see. But if she's so in love with his dark side then why warn her about it maybe returning? I
I think it depends on what is meant by "dark side." IMO, it's a matter of degree. I don't think Sami minds (and probably likes) that EJ is willing to do some illegal crap in relation to their business or to take care of their family. I think her fear of Stefano returning is him influencing EJ to do really bad stuff again - R2, Sydnapping, etc.
Stefano didn't influence Ej with the Sydnapping at all, he didn't know about it till a bit after he had done that....that was ALL EJ....and the Rafe2 bit, Ej could have taken himself out of the equation early on, but he chose not too because he specifically said that he wanted his children not to look up to Rafe as a person/father figure/man, whatever...he was just jealous of Johnny/Syd loving this man.....I specifically think that if anything it's proven that EJ can do very nefarious deeds without total influence from Stefano.
I know Stefano didn't tell EJ to take Syd. They were on the outs then because EJ found out that Steffy knew about the babyswitch. I'm saying what Sami's mindset/concern probably is about Stefano returning to EJ's life. And it makes sense she'd be worried since there's a correlation between Stefano's absense and EJ's better behavior. The two times that Stefano has been completely out of EJ's life (early to mid-2008, and mid to late 2012) is when EJ has done the least nefarious deeds. Sami is right to be worried that Stefano's presence in EJ's life could cause him to revert back to the really dark side, just like it did before in 2008.
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Well I don't agree with your assessment of Sami's families feelings about Rafe (initially) but that's completely independent of what I'm talking about. Their families aren't particularly relevant to my opinion of how the characters are acting. Their scenes remind me of safe's scenes when they first got together in Salem.
Well some people have suggested that Rafe and EJ have bascially just switched places and I can see what they mean. And Marlena warning Sami about EJ's dark side showing up one day sounds like if that happens it won't be something Sami will be glad to see. But if she's so in love with his dark side then why warn her about it maybe returning? I
I think it depends on what is meant by "dark side." IMO, it's a matter of degree. I don't think Sami minds (and probably likes) that EJ is willing to do some illegal crap in relation to their business or to take care of their family. I think her fear of Stefano returning is him influencing EJ to do really bad stuff again - R2, Sydnapping, etc.
Stefano's influence definitely skews EJ's morality meter. The quality of EJs charcter I find most interesting is that his judgement is swayed by the person he desires the most validation from, be it a lover or Stefano. His desire to be a 'normal/better' man shows up with his personal love interests which always conflict with his desire for approval from his father.

The only consistent thing about EJ is that he seems fairly benign on his own but his desire for Stefano's approval will skew his choices malicious.
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I think it depends on what is meant by "dark side." IMO, it's a matter of degree. I don't think Sami minds (and probably likes) that EJ is willing to do some illegal crap in relation to their business or to take care of their family. I think her fear of Stefano returning is him influencing EJ to do really bad stuff again - R2, Sydnapping, etc.
Stefano didn't influence Ej with the Sydnapping at all, he didn't know about it till a bit after he had done that....that was ALL EJ....and the Rafe2 bit, Ej could have taken himself out of the equation early on, but he chose not too because he specifically said that he wanted his children not to look up to Rafe as a person/father figure/man, whatever...he was just jealous of Johnny/Syd loving this man.....I specifically think that if anything it's proven that EJ can do very nefarious deeds without total influence from Stefano.
I know Stefano didn't tell EJ to take Syd. They were on the outs then because EJ found out that Steffy knew about the babyswitch. I'm saying what Sami's mindset/concern probably is about Stefano returning to EJ's life. And it makes sense she'd be worried since there's a correlation between Stefano's absense and EJ's better behavior. The two times that Stefano has been completely out of EJ's life (early to mid-2008, and mid to late 2012) is when EJ has done the least nefarious deeds. Sami is right to be worried that Stefano's presence in EJ's life could cause him to revert back to the really dark side, just like it did before in 2008.
Yes, but as you just said there are also times that Stefano has been on the outs with Ej and he's still done some pretty horrible things to Sami (i.e, the baby switch). Sami may believe that Ej being away from Stefano helps him be a 'better man', but frankly she's had enough proof that is particularly not the case always...even with Stefano gone and Ej promising Lexie that he would try to do better or whatever he said, he still went ahead and blackmailed Rafe to stay out of Sami's life...the writers are trying every possible avenue to sell this story but for me it'll never work because at the core, Sami should love Ej PERIOD.....she shouldn't say he's changed, she shouldn't see him as changed to fall for him, she shouldn't care about who his father is, she shouldn't give a shit about anything if she loves him....to me the fact that she still spews the 'he's change so much' line to Marlena tells me that at it's core the relationship will never work....fall in love with the person regardless of who their parent are, regardless of who the person is....she knew Kate tried to kill her, she knew that Lucas stood there and almost let her die, she didn't trust Lucas at first but she couldn't control her feelings for him for too long, she knew who he was and she didn't care, why should she care so much about Ej being a changed man? If at the core she loves him?
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Interesting

I bet sami sleeps with rafe
I'm genuinely curious - you got that impression from this interview?
Nah

I was thinking about that before
Sami sleeps with Rafe Oh god no :puke: ..
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There has been a significant change in EJ's relationship with Stefano - Stefano completely rejected EJ when he thought EJ was not his son. Starting with when EJ found out that Stefano was still alive, he has seemed more capable of separating his love for Stefano as his father from the need to earn Stefano's love, and that seems to be because he now understands that Stefano's love will always be conditional. That may certainly change again in the future when Stefano is physically around, but at this point in time, EJ seems to be focused on his future with Sami and his children, rather than his past dynamic with Stefano.
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Stefano didn't influence Ej with the Sydnapping at all, he didn't know about it till a bit after he had done that....that was ALL EJ....and the Rafe2 bit, Ej could have taken himself out of the equation early on, but he chose not too because he specifically said that he wanted his children not to look up to Rafe as a person/father figure/man, whatever...he was just jealous of Johnny/Syd loving this man.....I specifically think that if anything it's proven that EJ can do very nefarious deeds without total influence from Stefano.
I know Stefano didn't tell EJ to take Syd. They were on the outs then because EJ found out that Steffy knew about the babyswitch. I'm saying what Sami's mindset/concern probably is about Stefano returning to EJ's life. And it makes sense she'd be worried since there's a correlation between Stefano's absense and EJ's better behavior. The two times that Stefano has been completely out of EJ's life (early to mid-2008, and mid to late 2012) is when EJ has done the least nefarious deeds. Sami is right to be worried that Stefano's presence in EJ's life could cause him to revert back to the really dark side, just like it did before in 2008.
Yes, but as you just said there are also times that Stefano has been on the outs with Ej and he's still done some pretty horrible things to Sami (i.e, the baby switch). Sami may believe that Ej being away from Stefano helps him be a 'better man', but frankly she's had enough proof that is particularly not the case always...even with Stefano gone and Ej promising Lexie that he would try to do better or whatever he said, he still went ahead and blackmailed Rafe to stay out of Sami's life...the writers are trying every possible avenue to sell this story but for me it'll never work because at the core, Sami should love Ej PERIOD.....she shouldn't say he's changed, she shouldn't see him as changed to fall for him, she shouldn't care about who his father is, she shouldn't give a shit about anything if she loves him....to me the fact that she still spews the 'he's change so much' line to Marlena tells me that at it's core the relationship will never work....fall in love with the person regardless of who their parent are, regardless of who the person is....she knew Kate tried to kill her, she knew that Lucas stood there and almost let her die, she didn't trust Lucas at first but she couldn't control her feelings for him for too long, she knew who he was and she didn't care, why should she care so much about Ej being a changed man? If at the core she loves him?
Why did Lucas care so much about Sami being a changed woman if he loved her? Why did he and Kate have conversations that mirrored the talk Sami had with Marlena? Why did Lucas feel it was necessary to tell Sami he was working on changing (meaning that if he succeeded, Deathrow Lucas would be a thing of the past), once they decided to try and build something on that foundation of love? They loved each other, so that should have been enough, apparently, but it wasn't.

The show hasn't told us exactly when Sami fell in love with EJ, but they haven't ruled out the possibility that she's loved him on and off for awhile (which has been hinted at), but hasn't felt comfortable enough with the things he's done to make a commitment to him until now. A couple coming together because one of them strove to be better to be worthy of the one they love happens all the time on soaps.
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Feb 14 2013, 03:23 PM
I dont know exactly how old this is but it cant be more than a couple days old.



There is a tiny spoiler hinted at in the middle. James says that now EJami's relationship is different this time because neither are concealing information from the other. Ali says "Oh really? Neither are concealing information?" She tells the fans to bookmark that statement because we'll be coming back to that later and James laughs and says they "Well, we're concealing less than we've ever concealed before".
Maybe something to do with Nicole's Baby supposedly alive from days cafe rumour posted some time ago .Maybe .. :shrug:
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Feb 14 2013, 03:51 PM
I think it's amazing that after all these years, Sweeney still doesn't get her character's family dynamic. Doesn't see Sami as a victim my ass.
No one understands a character more than the actor that portrays them.
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I think it's amazing that after all these years, Sweeney still doesn't get her character's family dynamic. Doesn't see Sami as a victim my ass.
No one understands a character more than the actor that portrays them.
not true....usually actors have issues portraying a character that continues to change at the whim of every writing change. JS has expressed this on and off throughout the years himself. Ali Sweeney SHOULD know that Sami seeing her family being opposed to Ej/The DImeras has never stopped the character from actually being with Ej or any Dimera....frankly that was the entire purpose of that intervention at the church before Ejami's black wedding....they tried to stop her (ALL OF THEM) and she didn't care.
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I think it's amazing that after all these years, Sweeney still doesn't get her character's family dynamic. Doesn't see Sami as a victim my ass.
Exactly. And Marlena has always accepted Sami. She might not have approved of the CRIMES Sami committed (like kidnapping and drugging), but she loved her as much as any mother loves her daughter. And she has always wanted her happy.
Though Sami's far, far from perfect and behaved inexcusably toward Marlena last year, I don't think Marlena was exactly parent of the year, either. There's a pattern of Marlena not being there when Sami needed her (e.g. Johnny going missing, where Kate actually acted more like a mother to Sami than Marlena, Grace's death, etc.), so I can see why Sami can be hostile towards her.
the problem with this show is its not just writer who change the history of characters but the fans do too. most people have watched this show for decades and its insulting when fans of certain characters say things that know one who has watched the show forever. sami is the devil sami has always been the devil. marlena slept with john .she didnt rape him drug him change dna test sami did. it didnt stop after here near excution either brandon anyone lying about lucas abusing will. she is worse than her mother or any other female character on the show. we wont even get into ej. marlena wouldnt have made babies with stefano thats for damn sure. marlena character wasn't even on during the grace and sydney thing thank goodness cause she would have been blamed for that too.the problem with ej and sami for anyone who has truly watched days knows that ej wasn't born till 97 and sami characacter was already in hear late teens .u can't get pass that. but ej has streaks of gray? they have to work to hard at this chemistry its not just there it never has been not the romantic kind .i could see them as besties .but not love
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There's no reason Sami can't be the devil and have a bad mother.
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