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Interesting/Spoilerish Tweets, Week of 5/6
Topic Started: May 6 2013, 04:37 AM (19,819 Views)
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IDK. Or he did, and they gave no help. He seems to know how to play scenes with Eileen.
which scenes are you talking about where he doesn't know how play? with Brady?

he does seem comfortable with Eileen, like he knows why John is doing what is doing..
IDK. The stuff airing now is what they were filming when Drake tweeted that he didn't understand John's motivations. Can't be sure which exact scenes they were, but for his sake I hope they were the ones where he looked completely clueless.
I honestly don't get why he's so clueless about how to play his scenes with Marlena, Brady or John's other loved ones. I'll give him that John's plan is completely stupid, but it's still pretty obvious IMO as to how he should be playing it. He's simply failing at giving his scenes any of the subtext of anguish and pain that he should be giving them. And it's making an awful story worse.
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Hey everyone I promised a Q&A today. Shoot!
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J. René Salazar Mtz @RenePattz
@freddiemsmith whats your fav cd??? For a rainy day??
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@RenePattz anything hip hop I love Drake
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Joanie™ @Joanie_Vinson
@freddiemsmith Have you heard any news about Scandal Crest? Is it coming back
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@Joanie_Vinson I haven't heard anything so I'm not sure will tweet if I do!
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Tonya @tbayles
@freddiemsmith How awesome does it feel that your project is alnost fully funded? Congrats!!
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@tbayles it's surreal. We r so excited all of the effort from friends family and fans has really helped this come to life
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Steven P. Wong @swong1991
@freddiemsmith what do u like to do for fun???
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@swong1991 movies basketball bars clubs write board games hang with friends
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Raquel Amorim @raquelpurple
@freddiemsmith omh hii!!! so eeerrmm ... r u a good baker ???? x
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@raquelpurple I'd like to think so but I'm not into sweets that much so I don't do it often
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Christina Razo @ChristinaJonas6
@freddiemsmith if you could choose any movie or TV series besides Days. Which one would you choose??
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@ChristinaJonas6 breaking bad modern family
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Lola Nowak @Nowak_Lola
@freddiemsmith how excited are you to be do close to the @AddictsAnon goal?
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@Nowak_Lola now it's real which means we can shoot this show the way we have I visioned it!
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Susen (Lady) McBeth @SusenMc
@freddiemsmith So we're pretty "spoiled" and we know that Sonny delivers the baby - any comments about that experience? :)
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@SusenMc it's crazy in real life when I have kid I'm gunna leave that part up to the doctors
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Michael Loeding @mikeloeding
@freddiemsmith what are you doing for your Mom for Mother's Day?
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@mikeloeding I sent her a card and i call her tomorrow but i get to see her twice in the next month which is exciting in NY and then in LA

Fansite for FS @fsmithfans
@freddiemsmith What would you say has been the biggest obstacle you've had to overcome in your life?
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@fsmithfans being away from family and friends
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BATGIRL. @AreeshaaY
@freddiemsmith Favorite superhero?
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@AreeshaaY spiderman
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Brandon @BrandonSufronko
@freddiemsmith Can we expect any Sonny/Marlena scenes in the future? :)
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@BrandonSufronko I think so lol we are. 4 months a head so i forget the timeline
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cole ortiz @Itsnatashab
@freddiemsmith is chandler a good kisser? :)
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@Itsnatashab yeah I give him an A!
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Bill Listanski @Beezerb11
@freddiemsmith who is your dream actor that you one day hope to work with?
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@Beezerb11 will smith
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LAURA @lauraajay_x
@freddiemsmith Do you have any strange/funny nicknames? P.s I love you ok? :-) x
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@lauraajay_x my buddies sometime will call me Fredward
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Amanda @THF8
@freddiemsmith Do you remember meeting Chandler for the first time? How was it? :)
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@THF8 it was at the test for Days he was great
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Rachel Ann @xstache
@freddiemsmith - Hiii! Is Summer in Salem full of exciting new things? :)
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@xstache sonny starts another business venture!
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Jenny P. @jenpoll
@freddiemsmith Hi Freddie! Looking forward to scenes of #WilSon & Arianna! How's it been filming w/ the baby/babies? Getting used to it? ;)
freddie smith @freddiemsmith
@jenpoll they r adorable but I want to wait at least 5 years for one of my own
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Anthony :) @ACminaj95
@freddiemsmith How is it working with Molly? I mean you guys have done Days, SC and now AA together! It must be so fun :)
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@ACminaj95 she is a sweetheart!
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Robin Kaye @robbiebob44
@freddiemsmith do you have any siblings and do you get back to Ohio?
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@robbiebob44 no I'm the only child but have cousins I'm very close with
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claire out boy @claireoceans
@freddiemsmith oh, pancakes or waffles?
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@claireoceans waffles
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La Taye Schutz @chriscosangel
@freddiemsmith when did you realize you wanted to be an actor?
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@chriscosangel when I was 17
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You all r great! Have a wonderful weekend and I'll do another Q&A soon! Xoxoxo
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which scenes are you talking about where he doesn't know how play? with Brady?

he does seem comfortable with Eileen, like he knows why John is doing what is doing..
IDK. The stuff airing now is what they were filming when Drake tweeted that he didn't understand John's motivations. Can't be sure which exact scenes they were, but for his sake I hope they were the ones where he looked completely clueless.
I honestly don't get why he's so clueless about how to play his scenes with Marlena, Brady or John's other loved ones. I'll give him that John's plan is completely stupid, but it's still pretty obvious IMO as to how he should be playing it. He's simply failing at giving his scenes any of the subtext of anguish and pain that he should be giving them. And it's making an awful story worse.
this he's actor dammit act
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which scenes are you talking about where he doesn't know how play? with Brady?

he does seem comfortable with Eileen, like he knows why John is doing what is doing..
IDK. The stuff airing now is what they were filming when Drake tweeted that he didn't understand John's motivations. Can't be sure which exact scenes they were, but for his sake I hope they were the ones where he looked completely clueless.
That's where your instincts as an actor come into play. It's called subtext. Your eyes and body language should reflect differently than the written dialogue.
Yeah, I know. I'm not defending him. I'm saying that he told us months ago that he didn't have a clue what he was doing, so I'm not really sure why we're acting like it's a surprise now. However, he does seem to be aware that he has no clue what to do, so maybe that's at least to his credit. IDK.
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Here is what I think went on with Drake. He doesn't trust Tomlin at the helm, and the minute John started treating Marlena like crap without an explanation then he started to have serious issues with this story. Then they disclosed the plan to us and its obvious he didn't think it was something John would do in character. He's having trouble playing John now solely because of that and actors being human usually cannot mask their displeasure that much. I've liked John and Drake but Drake has never been a great actor. He does heartache very well, and his chemistry with Dee is amazing..., maybe he should have focused on his heartache at what he's about to put Marlena through
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I felt like I'd read this conversation before, than it hit me. This is the same thing that happened with the whole Stephanie/Nathan/Melanie triangle thing. Some quotes about that:

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I've seen several actors talk about not knowing what was going on and making up their own motivations, because they got nothing from the script, the directors, the producers, etc., at the time.

For example - Nadia talked about Chloe hooking up with Lucas in an interview. She didn't understand why Chloe would do something like that (and it was apparently never explained to her), so she pretended that it was because she was still in love with Philip and was jealous over him and Morgan. And that's how she played it - whether or not that was what the script called for (I don't think it did). Then Philip suddenly said he loved Chloe and *POOF* - they didn't even share a scene again for over an entire year. Nadia was, understandably, highly confused and said so.

And she's not the only one. Too many actors have come forward and basically said they don't know why things are happening and "don't get" what's going on, but they're doing the best they can

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I agree. It is a combination of both along with a lack of communication between all departments. If the writer doesn't write the story/script with a clear direction of what needs to be conveyed to the audience, neither the actors nor the director knows what the emotional subtext is supposed to be. An actor can guess are assume based on what he/she has been told the story is supposed to be, but if the actor & director sees "Mary looks at Jim lovingly. They kiss passionately.", and there is no reason for them to think, based on that script alone, that it should be any other way, that's how it's directed & acted and that's how it is on screen. It's like every single scene is written, directed, and acted in a vacuum without regard or relation to anything else that goes on or is supposed to be going on.


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Now, as to the argument that, by taping scenes out of order actors might not know the direction their story is taking or the required motivations -- that falls ENTIRELY on the writer. A good writer would take such things into account and would make sure to write the necessary character actions and motivations in the script. For example, if the script says that Nathan is to profess his love for Stephanie, the writer SHOULD have also included notations that somehow clarify that Nathan is still in love with Melanie and is merely trying to convince both Stephane and himself of his feelings in order to get the correct emotional subtext in the scene so that it synchs up with future scenes.

IMO, it's just pisspoor writing, planning, and production all the way around.


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Do you even read the interviews with the actors? They're totally lost. Not just one of them, not just two of them -- all of them. What's the likelihood that the entire cast would be saying the same thing if it wasn't at least somewhat true?

The actors are flying by the seat of their pants and it's obvious. They have no clue what's going on. Can you blame them? How are they supposed to make sense of the stories in script form when we can't even make sense of them playing out in front of our eyes?

The disconnect is probably caused by a variety of things. Weak scripts, lazy directors, a fast-paced taping schedule that doesn't allow for attention to detail, bored actors, etc. Whatever the case, it needs to be fixed


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That was my point in addressing the writing as well as the acting & direction and the lack of communication between all parties. Nathan could've played the dialog between him and Stephanie is such a way as to convey that, perhaps, he wasn't only trying to convince Stephanie of his love for her, but he was trying to talk himself into it, too, in a valiant (and yet futile effort) to talk himself out of being in love with Melanie who had told him there was no future between them. Unfortunately, the writing was such that that specific subtext was not easily noticable (leaving that actors to, possibly, think that no matter what was being told, perhaps the writers really did want Nathan & Stephanie to be together) and that's how it was played.

If I'm making any sense whatsoever. WTFery of Our Lives isn't a solo effort. It's entirely a group effort.


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I could deal with the insecurities if they would just bother to explain them. That's what is not working here. If they bothered to give Stephanie a motivation beyond "I love Nathan and I'll lose him" then this would make more sense. But, when there is nothing to explain WHY she is so afraid to lose Nathan and why she's willing to settle for being second best, then it doesn't make any sense.


from here:

http://daytimeroyaltyonline.com/topic/8473142/1/
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which scenes are you talking about where he doesn't know how play? with Brady?

he does seem comfortable with Eileen, like he knows why John is doing what is doing..
IDK. The stuff airing now is what they were filming when Drake tweeted that he didn't understand John's motivations. Can't be sure which exact scenes they were, but for his sake I hope they were the ones where he looked completely clueless.
I honestly don't get why he's so clueless about how to play his scenes with Marlena, Brady or John's other loved ones. I'll give him that John's plan is completely stupid, but it's still pretty obvious IMO as to how he should be playing it. He's simply failing at giving his scenes any of the subtext of anguish and pain that he should be giving them. And it's making an awful story worse.
Maybe the writer/director won't let him play the subtext he feels as an actor would be true to the character. Maybe he wanted to play out the anguish and the notion that John was in hell over how he's having to treat Marlena for the sake of Da Plot, but he's getting direction to play it more ambiguously to throw the audience off and keep them guessing. Heck, maybe they're telling him to play it as if he's attracted to/ falling for Kristen, and he's scratching his head trying to figure out how to make that believable to the fans who, like him, know the history.

My sense is that the direction he's getting from the script and elsewhere is throwing him off his stride and boxing him in. Drake is in a no win situation. He knows that the story they're writing isn't true to character and is damaging to John and the J&M pairing. He knows that the fans hate it. And he probably knows that TomSell dislike the character of John and want him off canvas. Yet these are the cards Drake's being dealt. I think it must be tough to be party to the destruction of a character you've played for years and years. Sadly, many of the vets have gone through something similar over the years -- multiple times. Some of them are better at handling it than others. Heck, Drake was better at it in previous rounds. Maybe he's just fed up with the stupid games TPTB are playing at his expense.



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IDK. Or he did, and they gave no help. He seems to know how to play scenes with Eileen.
which scenes are you talking about where he doesn't know how play? with Brady?

he does seem comfortable with Eileen, like he knows why John is doing what is doing..
IDK. The stuff airing now is what they were filming when Drake tweeted that he didn't understand John's motivations. Can't be sure which exact scenes they were, but for his sake I hope they were the ones where he looked completely clueless.
If I recall correctly at least one of these tweets (the most desperate one) has to be about some upcoming scenes which will probably air in about two or three weeks. It's just my guess because we don't know how much out of order the scenes were being taped. It could possibly be that "struggle of no return" scene (spoiler for May 24th) or - which would be even more believable - some of the later scenes. /I could be biased because if they are going where it looks like they are going these scenes could be really disgusting from moral point of view and there could be a huge negative reaction from viewers/

BTW maybe it's just me but I didn't like DH's acting in the resent scenes with ED as well. The Horton cabin scenes and January scenes were quite impressive and well acted but not the recent ones. JMO

Maybe the problems we are talking about arise not only because of the stupid writing choices I guess actors should be used to that. Maybe it has something to do with that indefinite hiatus which possibly was in sight at that time (I mean first they trash the character make him do disgusting things and then send away indefinitely).


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Maybe DH should go pay Lisa De Cazotte a visit like AS said she did and find out what's going to happen in her storyline and then maybe he'll be able to figure out how to play a scene if knew where everything was headed. Oh wait.....DH's not AS. Never mind.
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Instead of leaving the supercouples alone and building on what they already have. Giving them problems but showing them overcoming them. What they have done, is set out to destroy them. This is what I am seeing.

John is a grown man and he is suppose to be intelligent, yet this is the only thing they could come up with for him to get Kristen out of Brady's life. It is so ridiculous. It is not a reflection on John but on the writers themselves who thought of it. Where are their brains. The result of this stupid idea is that, they are showing him as willingly setting out to hurt the woman that he has been in love with for so long, and also willing to hurt his grown son, just to get some sex with Kristen, to get her out of his son's life. His son who not only a grown man, but suppose to have a mind of his own.

Didn't he want Kristen out of Brady's life because he believed she will hurt him. So, it is ok for him to hurt Brady but not Kristen. Marlena will be hurting and Brady will be hurting over this idiotic decision of his. There is no guarantee that Kristen would fall into bed with him, so at least they should have shown him having an alternative plan. They had long enough to come up with a much better one.

Also, I wish they would make up their minds whether or not they are trying to write a love story between Brady and Kristen. Instead of the constant, she loves him one week and the next she still wants her revenge. If she has sex with John that is also destroying her relationship with Brady, but I guess they will continue to write Brady as stupid, so that they can continue with the Kristen and Brady relationship.

But I think the main purpose behind all this was to destroy Marlena and John. I think the actor was told to play it, as if he no longer cares for Marlena, to the point where he is pushing her onto another man and end up hurting her by doing somthing so disgusting. If he ends up having sex with Kristen, the John and Marlena relationship will never be the same. The only way they could come back from this is if Days had headwriters that could actually write a convincing come back story for them. The fact that they came up with this ridiculous revenge plot makes me further doubt their ability to do that. The Kristen/Marlena/Brady/John story that once had potential has now turned into boring crap.
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May 11 2013, 11:25 PM
Here is what I think went on with Drake. He doesn't trust Tomlin at the helm, and the minute John started treating Marlena like crap without an explanation then he started to have serious issues with this story. Then they disclosed the plan to us and its obvious he didn't think it was something John would do in character. He's having trouble playing John now solely because of that and actors being human usually cannot mask their displeasure that much. I've liked John and Drake but Drake has never been a great actor. He does heartache very well, and his chemistry with Dee is amazing..., maybe he should have focused on his heartache at what he's about to put Marlena through
He had this problem before. In 2001. He went to the writers and specifically asked that they re-write something. Said he wouldn't do it, that he was standing up for his character, that he knew him better. They took out the slap (John was going to hit Marlena during the 2001 Brady story), but not the dialogue. This could be a similar situation, except he didn't get a response. He's played this man for 27 years, and he knows every part of the character. He's not in a rut, but he knows the responses the character would and shoul have, and he knows what his fans expect, want and know. So either way he loses. Either he goes along with the writers plan (which is quite obviously to not write John as John Black, whether that is a concious choice or not) or he says "You know what, honestly, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Sorry.". If this was the first time the writers had frakked him over, I'd say "Do your job". I do agree, it's their job to make it work, but I at least understand where he's coming from. This is what he does, being John Black has been half his life, it's half his day every single day. So I get it. Might be the same fangirl part of me that cheered when Deidre Hall asked for a body double for the castle scenes.

The problem for me is that the writing is all plot. There is nothing to explain why John's doing it, so there is no emotion to really play with. The last time I thought he was decent was the coffeebar or whatever it is, when John was leaving town. Other than that, sorry, he's sucked balls. Even with John Aniston, who could probably have made Charity Rahmer bearable, he just has that presence.

The director could have told him to play it cold because "it'll make sense at the end and then they'll love it". The problem is that the story sucks SO bad that the two characters who should be front and center are either a walking plot device (John) or completely gone from the story (Marlena). Marlena's not actually in the story, so basically John's just treating her like crap. If she was in the mix, and we saw her in actual danger from Kristen or Stefano or EJ or whoever, it'd be at least somewhat understandable that John feels a need to protect her. She's walking around town safer than she's ever been before. And Brady's not in any physical danger either. Proportional response is key. For instance, I'm watching Maison Blanche at the moment... Marlena dropping everything, and telling Roman that she was having a romantic tryst with John, knowing it would effectively end her marriage for good... was belivable because John was in actual danger. She was caught between a rock and a hard place. John is nowhere. He's not caught between anything. There's no danger anywhere in Salem.

It would make more sense at this point to have Marlena seduce Stefano, tell Kristen she'll stop when Kristen dumps Brady, stays away from John... and make it clear that she'll go all the way. That would be rooted in history. How does John screwing Kristen hurt Kristen? It doesn't hurt anyone except the people John loves. Isn't the point to get the villain, not the fellow good guy?

These same writers tried to screw J&M over once, and they now have a second chance to really get it right. And boy are they doing their best.
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i can see this show heading to Prospect Park with all the teens/newbies they will be able to get it at a cheap price.
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May 12 2013, 06:44 PM
i can see this show heading to Prospect Park with all the teens/newbies they will be able to get it at a cheap price.
I don't see that at all. :mellow:
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May 11 2013, 08:00 PM
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May 11 2013, 01:47 PM
Deidre just posted a pic on her Facebook with all of Sami's little kids and their twins. One Johnny is missing though.
And it looks like a courtroom set that they're on. Probably there for Sami's trial.
So in the courtroom behind DH and the kids, there looks to be a picture of a police officer on a screen sitting on a table. Somebody came up with the speculation that Sami is accused of killing Bernandi and the video that the dancing extra appeared to be shooting when Sami was chasing him through HTS is going to come into play. That makes a lot of sense to me.
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I think Sami is in jail because of the stolen files from Mad World (courtesy of EJ) will be found on her computer.
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May 12 2013, 10:58 PM
I think Sami is in jail because of the stolen files from Mad World (courtesy of EJ) will be found on her computer.
I think EJ downloaded that file on his own laptop.
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