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Wednesday, June 12th Daily Discussion
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Kay

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Jun 12 2013, 12:21 PM
Is Will on morphine? He is so off today...
I thought Will seems really good today. At least he is wide awake and not falling asleep like he did the last time we saw him
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Knife, knife who has the knife
*Ejerk so he can "test" Sami
*Kate so she can make sure Sami gets executed this time
*Sonny so Sami will stay away from baby Grace and Will
*Gabi to get rid of Sami
*Kristen to extract the ultimate revenge on Marlena.
*Stefano to keep secret that the bad cop was working for him.
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I really liked the writers fucking with Sami by having her bond with Bernardi's widow before realizing who she was. The more Sami suffers, the better, provided she doesn't cry or try to cry during these moments.

If you set aside the forensic incompetence by letting everyone in Salem and their neighbor into the crime scene, the case against Sami is actually a pretty solid one, especially without the knife\razor. I'm now starting to wonder how the writers are going to extricate Sami from this predicament as she obviously is not going to prison for the shooting.

I can't wait for Lucas to discover Sami has shot another man.

Has Marlena visited Will while he has been in the hospital? I'm asking if it was mentioned in passing at some point because there was never any visual depiction of it.

Sonny obviously had relinquished the Salem brain by suggesting Gabi and Arianna move in with him and Will. The writers had better make this story a comedic one otherwise there is nothing good that can come from this.
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Jun 12 2013, 03:24 PM
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Jun 12 2013, 12:37 PM
Did I mishear, or did Sami just say Johnny is 10?
wtf??? How can Johnny be 10?? There's no way! That would, in theory, make Ciara a pre-teen & she's clearly not (though she has kinda been acting like one).
You can play around with ages for some characters, but not for the kids. Are we gonna hear say that Sydney's 8?
I believe she was talking to Mrs. Bernardi and Sammy said her son always wants "ten more minutes" before bedtime. She never mentioned exactly how old Johnny is.

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Seriously - just how far are they going in rewriting the entire history of J&M. Kristen's line today: "Cause you can keep doing the same thing over and over and over to her. You can kind of control her and play with her emotions, and she just always forgives you, doesn't she?" WTF??

So now their entire love story was about him playing with her emotions? And according to Brady he's someone who throws the word 'love' around but it means nothing? What character are they talking about because it sure as hell isn't John Black. Less than a year ago Brady was praising his father for always protecting the family and acting out of love but now he's a guy who uses people, needs his ego stroked and disregards the feelings of that same family.

God, the history rewriting on this show is incredibly bad by times but honestly, this is the worst I've seen - ripping the very heart out of a character and a love story that has spanned decades.
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Jun 12 2013, 07:43 PM
I'm now starting to wonder how the writers are going to extricate Sami from this predicament as she obviously is not going to prison for the shooting.
Easy. Lucas will burst in with the knife just as Sami is starting to feel the effects of the electric chair.

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Has Marlena visited Will while he has been in the hospital? I'm asking if it was mentioned in passing at some point because there was never any visual depiction of it.

Great point. If it happened already, it would have been on the day that she held the baby, but she needs to come back now that he's awake.
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Jun 12 2013, 02:33 PM
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Jun 12 2013, 02:18 PM
Jason47
Jun 12 2013, 02:15 PM
Ellie
Jun 12 2013, 12:18 PM
Where do we know Mrs. Bernardi from? She looks familiar.
Elizabeth Ann Roberts is playing Marge Bernardi. She's recurring and will be sticking around awhile.

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Yay! I knew they were setting her up to be around for a while~
You see, if this show really wanted to pair up Lucas with someone...this would be the perfect fit....recently widowed with a child and she immediately starts hating on Sami and all that she represents when she realizes that Sami killed her hubby....perfect for a Lucas pairing if you ask me.
Not to mention, how ADORBS they would look together.
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Jun 12 2013, 05:24 PM
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Jun 12 2013, 05:05 PM
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Jun 12 2013, 04:49 PM
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Jun 12 2013, 12:54 PM

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IDK, but it bothers me that they are going to whitewash EJ to the point of making him bland white bread. So, I suppose all the Bradys will be praising him soon because he is trying to be Sami's hero. Also, are we suppose to believe that neither Hope or Abe (with like a hundred yrs. police work experience) knew to check the vents while searching for a weapon? Only the great EJ knew that?!!!!
i completely agree. the CSI people should've/would've checked the vents, though i'm not sure how the hell a knife would've gotten in the one Hope checked as it was basically behind the bed. and the other one was above the door & had tighter grates.

i'm betting the cop that we saw outside the waiting room in yesterday's episode also works for Stefano & removed Bernardi's knife before the non-crooked cops showed up.
Did the knife fly out of Bernardi's hand? It could have fallen under the covers of Rafe's bed. Did they even check Rafe's bed before wheeling him out of there?
I thought when Sammy shot Joe, that before he fell he dropped the blade on the bed. But when Maxine came in to check RAFE it was gone.
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Jun 12 2013, 07:43 PM
I really liked the writers fucking with Sami by having her bond with Bernardi's widow before realizing who she was. The more Sami suffers, the better, provided she doesn't cry or try to cry during these moments.

If you set aside the forensic incompetence by letting everyone in Salem and their neighbor into the crime scene, the case against Sami is actually a pretty solid one, especially without the knife\razor. I'm now starting to wonder how the writers are going to extricate Sami from this predicament as she obviously is not going to prison for the shooting.

I can't wait for Lucas to discover Sami has shot another man.

Has Marlena visited Will while he has been in the hospital? I'm asking if it was mentioned in passing at some point because there was never any visual depiction of it.

Sonny obviously had relinquished the Salem brain by suggesting Gabi and Arianna move in with him and Will. The writers had better make this story a comedic one otherwise there is nothing good that can come from this.
Marlena was at the hospital the night GABI had ARIANNA because she held the baby while Kate took pictures on her phone. She never visited Will though.
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Jun 12 2013, 08:18 PM
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Jun 12 2013, 05:24 PM
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Jun 12 2013, 05:05 PM
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Jun 12 2013, 04:49 PM

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i completely agree. the CSI people should've/would've checked the vents, though i'm not sure how the hell a knife would've gotten in the one Hope checked as it was basically behind the bed. and the other one was above the door & had tighter grates.

i'm betting the cop that we saw outside the waiting room in yesterday's episode also works for Stefano & removed Bernardi's knife before the non-crooked cops showed up.
Did the knife fly out of Bernardi's hand? It could have fallen under the covers of Rafe's bed. Did they even check Rafe's bed before wheeling him out of there?
I thought when Sammy shot Joe, that before he fell he dropped the blade on the bed. But when Maxine came in to check RAFE it was gone.
But it could have fallen underneath the covers. I can't tell you how many times I've easily and quickly lost track of my remote control in my bed covers.

Maxine wouldn't have been looking for a blade, she would have just been checking Rafe's vitals. I'll laugh my ass off if the blade is sitting in Rafe's bed.
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Jun 12 2013, 06:45 PM
all these hospital scenes make me realize how much i miss Lexie :(
I was going to write
And at least with Lexie there was a better chance of rafe dying.
But ive realised Kate has made me like him.
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niki
Jun 12 2013, 07:52 PM
Seriously - just how far are they going in rewriting the entire history of J&M. Kristen's line today: "Cause you can keep doing the same thing over and over and over to her. You can kind of control her and play with her emotions, and she just always forgives you, doesn't she?" WTF??

So now their entire love story was about him playing with her emotions? And according to Brady he's someone who throws the word 'love' around but it means nothing? What character are they talking about because it sure as hell isn't John Black. Less than a year ago Brady was praising his father for always protecting the family and acting out of love but now he's a guy who uses people, needs his ego stroked and disregards the feelings of that same family.

God, the history rewriting on this show is incredibly bad by times but honestly, this is the worst I've seen - ripping the very heart out of a character and a love story that has spanned decades.
iTA. They are making up things as they go along, not caring if it makes sense or not, and they definitely don't care if they contradict all that has happened in the past. I am sure Nicole said to Kirsten that Brady does not like people lying to him and that she has never lied to him. The amount of times Nicole has lied to Brady in the past, I have lost count. Maybe I heard wrong. The characters feelings, personalities, and motivations, switches at the drop of a hat. One minute Stefano did not seem to care whether Kate existed, and the next he wants to cut off Rafe's penis because he is jealous of her relationship with Rafe.
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This show has lost its mind. There's no way I'll ever believe that Sami's mother pealed potatoes.
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lysie
Jun 12 2013, 09:36 PM
This show has lost its mind. There's no way I'll ever believe that Sami's mother pealed potatoes.
especially since it's been well established that Marlena can't cook. Plus, when Sami was growing up, it would've been Alice or Caroline peeling the potatoes.
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I'm going to have a hard time explaining this. I'm still not loving the show, but I'm in a better place with it right now. It's not going to sound that way, though.

I'm really not liking how this shooting story is playing out. I mean, there's my obvious issue with AS's acting, but that's not even the biggest part. The details of it are just bad. Why on earth would security or the Salem PD leave Sami alone anywhere? Why is EJ allowed in a crime scene? I went back and forth with the Ejami scenes. Some of it I liked and some I didn't. I see where they're both coming from, but this really isn't the time for EJ's insecurities. But even fresh out of shock, Sami wouldn't be stupid enough to talk about Rafe like that to EJ. It's just weird, and seems like it should be happening later. I'd prefer EJ be completely focused on Sami (and stop yelling at everyone) and then the stuff about Rafe come back later. Also, seriously. If the knife were in a vent, they'd have seen someone throw it in there and make that awesome shot. Come on.

I'm really liking Kate lately, and her scenes with Wilson and Gabi (yesterday I think) are making me miss seeing her with her kids.

I also really liked the lady playing Bernardi's wife. She was really good, and way better than AS. I found their scene completely contrived, but she pulled it off. Glad to hear she'll be hanging around (we heard that, right?)

I could just weep over Brady/Marlena. And I thought EM was pretty good today. The John/Brady scenes weren't great, but Brady's part in it was good. I wish John was more aware of how stupid this whole thing is.

I really haven't been enjoying ED this last couple of weeks. I'm not sure what it is, but I'm not.

Kayla said something funny, and I can't remember what it was. Also, she's dressed SO MUCH better than usual. I wish we could see her as more than a doctor. Her ex-sister in law and brother are investigating the shooting done by her niece and her great nephew and great great niece are in the hospital. A little boy Joey's age just lost his father, and that should really be stirring up something for her. She's not just doctor.

Drake briefly got that crick out of his neck.

Sami only has two sons. No daughters.
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Jun 12 2013, 09:57 PM
I also really liked the lady playing Bernardi's wife. She was really good, and way better than AS. I found their scene completely contrived, but she pulled it off. Glad to hear she'll be hanging around (we heard that, right?)
Yes, she'll be around.
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niki
Jun 12 2013, 07:52 PM
Seriously - just how far are they going in rewriting the entire history of J&M. Kristen's line today: "Cause you can keep doing the same thing over and over and over to her. You can kind of control her and play with her emotions, and she just always forgives you, doesn't she?" WTF??

So now their entire love story was about him playing with her emotions? And according to Brady he's someone who throws the word 'love' around but it means nothing? What character are they talking about because it sure as hell isn't John Black. Less than a year ago Brady was praising his father for always protecting the family and acting out of love but now he's a guy who uses people, needs his ego stroked and disregards the feelings of that same family.

God, the history rewriting on this show is incredibly bad by times but honestly, this is the worst I've seen - ripping the very heart out of a character and a love story that has played out for decades.
So now John's not only a creepy old man, but an emotional abuser, too? I just...can't with this writing anymore. I'm ready for John's hiatus. When he returns, he better be the real, authentic John. Because I can't watch anymore destruction.
Edited by AFaithL, Jun 12 2013, 10:59 PM.
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lysie
Jun 12 2013, 09:57 PM
I'm going to have a hard time explaining this. I'm still not loving the show, but I'm in a better place with it right now. It's not going to sound that way, though.

I'm really not liking how this shooting story is playing out. I mean, there's my obvious issue with AS's acting, but that's not even the biggest part. The details of it are just bad. Why on earth would security or the Salem PD leave Sami alone anywhere? Why is EJ allowed in a crime scene? I went back and forth with the Ejami scenes. Some of it I liked and some I didn't. I see where they're both coming from, but this really isn't the time for EJ's insecurities. But even fresh out of shock, Sami wouldn't be stupid enough to talk about Rafe like that to EJ. It's just weird, and seems like it should be happening later. I'd prefer EJ be completely focused on Sami (and stop yelling at everyone) and then the stuff about Rafe come back later. Also, seriously. If the knife were in a vent, they'd have seen someone throw it in there and make that awesome shot. Come on.

I'm really liking Kate lately, and her scenes with Wilson and Gabi (yesterday I think) are making me miss seeing her with her kids.

I also really liked the lady playing Bernardi's wife. She was really good, and way better than AS. I found their scene completely contrived, but she pulled it off. Glad to hear she'll be hanging around (we heard that, right?)

I could just weep over Brady/Marlena. And I thought EM was pretty good today. The John/Brady scenes weren't great, but Brady's part in it was good. I wish John was more aware of how stupid this whole thing is.

I really haven't been enjoying ED this last couple of weeks. I'm not sure what it is, but I'm not.

Kayla said something funny, and I can't remember what it was. Also, she's dressed SO MUCH better than usual. I wish we could see her as more than a doctor. Her ex-sister in law and brother are investigating the shooting done by her niece and her great nephew and great great niece are in the hospital. A little boy Joey's age just lost his father, and that should really be stirring up something for her. She's not just doctor.

Drake briefly got that crick out of his neck.

Sami only has two sons. No daughters.
i'm with you. so far, the shooting story is a complete clusterfuck. and things were going so well with Rafe's attack & the stuff with Jensen. but, of course, we needed to give Sami & EJ some drama.

i also agree that Kate's been written well lately. and Lauren's been playing those scenes well as well. Regardless of how people feel about Rate, you've gotta admit that Lauren did a really good job with those bedside scenes.

the Kristen stuff has been somewhat of a clusterfuck reveal, followed by a bunch of randomness just to attempt to add more drama.

Poor Sydney & that other one...what's her name again??? oh yeah... Allie.
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I wouldn't take what Kristen and Brady said to heart. They were obviously angry and making it seem like John is a cold bastard (which he kinda is but still) by projecting their personal problems with him onto his relationship with Marlena. Everyone else knows that isn't the case and that John & Marlena have a strong bond between them that's based on love and mutual respect.
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Jun 12 2013, 10:32 PM
lysie
Jun 12 2013, 09:57 PM
I'm going to have a hard time explaining this. I'm still not loving the show, but I'm in a better place with it right now. It's not going to sound that way, though.

I'm really not liking how this shooting story is playing out. I mean, there's my obvious issue with AS's acting, but that's not even the biggest part. The details of it are just bad. Why on earth would security or the Salem PD leave Sami alone anywhere? Why is EJ allowed in a crime scene? I went back and forth with the Ejami scenes. Some of it I liked and some I didn't. I see where they're both coming from, but this really isn't the time for EJ's insecurities. But even fresh out of shock, Sami wouldn't be stupid enough to talk about Rafe like that to EJ. It's just weird, and seems like it should be happening later. I'd prefer EJ be completely focused on Sami (and stop yelling at everyone) and then the stuff about Rafe come back later. Also, seriously. If the knife were in a vent, they'd have seen someone throw it in there and make that awesome shot. Come on.

I'm really liking Kate lately, and her scenes with Wilson and Gabi (yesterday I think) are making me miss seeing her with her kids.

I also really liked the lady playing Bernardi's wife. She was really good, and way better than AS. I found their scene completely contrived, but she pulled it off. Glad to hear she'll be hanging around (we heard that, right?)

I could just weep over Brady/Marlena. And I thought EM was pretty good today. The John/Brady scenes weren't great, but Brady's part in it was good. I wish John was more aware of how stupid this whole thing is.

I really haven't been enjoying ED this last couple of weeks. I'm not sure what it is, but I'm not.

Kayla said something funny, and I can't remember what it was. Also, she's dressed SO MUCH better than usual. I wish we could see her as more than a doctor. Her ex-sister in law and brother are investigating the shooting done by her niece and her great nephew and great great niece are in the hospital. A little boy Joey's age just lost his father, and that should really be stirring up something for her. She's not just doctor.

Drake briefly got that crick out of his neck.

Sami only has two sons. No daughters.
i'm with you. so far, the shooting story is a complete clusterfuck. and things were going so well with Rafe's attack & the stuff with Jensen. but, of course, we needed to give Sami & EJ some drama.

i also agree that Kate's been written well lately. and Lauren's been playing those scenes well as well. Regardless of how people feel about Rate, you've gotta admit that Lauren did a really good job with those bedside scenes.

the Kristen stuff has been somewhat of a clusterfuck reveal, followed by a bunch of randomness just to attempt to add more drama.

Poor Sydney & that other one...what's her name again??? oh yeah... Allie.
I don't have an issue with giving EJ and Sami drama. I just don't think it's playing out well. But it's playing out better than the shooting details are.
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