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Spoilers for the week of August 5th; *updated 7/28*
Topic Started: Jul 24 2013, 12:04 AM (32,871 Views)
LanaluvsBroe
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I hate that JJ is feeling jealousy over a woman who doesn't even want him. She's only using him to score weed & coke. :shame:
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Jul 29 2013, 12:28 PM
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Jul 29 2013, 10:27 AM
The only advice Sami should be giving Sonny is "Please give your mother as many chances as Will gave me when I disappointed him".
:iagree: She could also add that his mom is right. She is messed up and he really can't blame any mom not wanting her as future in law.

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Sami gives Sonny advice about Adrienne
:huh?: :wtf: Please tell me that Sonny didn't ask for her advice. :shame: If he did, he really needs his brain checked along with Chad's.
If done right this could be good, Sami to me is good in momma mode not momma bear mode but momma mode. Maybe she is the one who can give him clarity because of all the things that she and Will went through and how he forgave her for all the thing things she has done and how Sonny should forgive Adrienne too. But he should let her know the boundaries and how she should leave he and Will alone and let him be happy.
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LanaluvsBroe
Jul 30 2013, 06:56 AM


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Daniel is outraged by Jennifer's proposal.


Why? Because it doesn't involve her kissing his ass? Because heaven forbid Jennifer put anyone's needs before his. Yet he did the same thing with Melanie and it was okay then. :flipoff:

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As Cameron and Abigail grow closer, Chad meets with a specialist to find out if he really does have a brain tumor.


Dammit Abby, you're supposed to be supporting Chad. Not stroking Cameron's ego.

I'm starting to suspect that Jen-Jen proposes a secret reconciliation with Daniel. That they get back together but make JJ think they're still separated (while they sneak around behind his back). That, unfortunately, would be all too in keeping with this weak, selfish, indecisive Jennifer who wants to have her cake and eat it too--namely, get it on with her boyfriend while patting herself on the back and getting undeserved praise for being "a great mom" to her troubled son. She was like this during the stupid three-way dating game too. Daniel may have initiated that asinine scheme, but Jennifer didn't have to go along with it. And significantly it was the men who finally called a halt to it, not her. I also see the typically TomSellian heavy-handedness at work in making Jen-Jen look worse so Dr. Douche can look better and so that no one will blame him when he goes looking for fresh meat and ends up in Theresa's bed. When will TIIC realize that this weak, poorly defined character isn't worth all this trouble?

As for Cameron and Abigail, could anything be duller? Here's another character who's been a bore under multiple regimes, and neither of his portrayers is charismatic enough to overcome the mediocre writing. Although Cameron 1.0 was at least convincing as a medical student--this one, not so much. I'm not thrilled by either of Abigail's suitors, but she does have a friendship/history with Chad that would make her involvement in his problems understandable. As opposed to the things she sticks her nose into that should have nothing to do with her.
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Romancer66
Jul 30 2013, 09:33 AM
As for Cameron and Abigail, could anything be duller?
Yes. The relationship between Cameron's co-worker and Abby's mother is much, much duller.
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Jul 30 2013, 09:58 AM
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Jul 30 2013, 09:33 AM
As for Cameron and Abigail, could anything be duller?
Yes. The relationship between Cameron's co-worker and Abby's mother is much, much duller.
Touche. :laugh: And it's been going on much, much longer. A fricking eternity, in fact.
Edited by Romancer66, Jul 30 2013, 03:26 PM.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Jen's proposal is for Dan to flirt with Teresa to get her away from JJ. Dan would be "outraged" because it might make him look, God forbid, sleazy. And I agree with Romancer that Dan and Jen would go on seeing each other behind JJ's back while Dan was supposedly interested in Teresa.
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I loved Daniel with Chloe. It was a great pairing, and the actors had tremendous chemistry. I wouldn't mind Nadia returning to explore that again.
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Damn I want more about the one regarding Adrienne and her marriage. :( the rest of the week sounds boring.
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Jul 30 2013, 02:09 PM
I loved Daniel with Chloe. It was a great pairing, and the actors had tremendous chemistry. I wouldn't mind Nadia returning to explore that again.
After Chloe got thrown under the Fetch bus last time, I'd rather the show explored a different romantic path for her. She should have more self-respect than to have to lie and scheme to land an egotistical sleaze like Daniel. I really wish she'd turn her attention to getting dimwitted Brady away from Kristen instead. Or maybe Daniel can drown in a surfing accident, leaving her a single mom to Parker, and Philip can return and compete with Brady for her heart. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening until/unless there's a regime change because TomSell are inexplicably All About Daniel.
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Jul 29 2013, 12:40 PM
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Jul 29 2013, 10:48 AM

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They didn't mention an autopsy, and since he died supposedly on the operating table then I would think one wasn't necessary, but who knows with soaps.
You know that might be what gets Sami off if they can't find the razor.....he died of a heart attack or something and Sami's bullet didn't do the job.
I thought the surgery was successful but he started bleeding again while he was in recovery. I wonder if whoever stole the razor ended up using it on Bernardi while he was in recovery (maybe they"cut it off"
Seems as though the Razor may somehow have made its way into Bernardi's gun shot wound to then travel through his body and cause the unexpected internal haemorrhaging. He is one unlucky man.
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Jul 30 2013, 05:34 AM
Only some new details from SOF:

Nicole catches up with Rafe, who questions her feelings for Eric. She later has a warning for Daniel.
JJ fumes as Theresa shamelessly flirts with Nick, mistakenly believing he's a wealthy stock broker.

Monday August 5:
Theresa gains a new ally.

Unless its Nick Yawn. Do I want to see Anne and Theresa allying it up. I feel the initial charm of Anne has been played out.

Tuesday August 6:
Eric's shocked to learn Nicole had sex with Brady.

Wednesday August 7:
JJ offers cousin Will moral support.

Thursday August 8:
As Cameron and Abigail grow closer, Chad meets with a specialist to find out if he really does have a brain tumor.

Friday August 9:
Sami gives Sonny advice about his mother while Will urges EJ to save his mom. EJ then comes up with a new plan to clear Sami's name.

http://soaps.sheknows.com/daysofourlives/spoilers/

Monday August 5:
Theresa gains a new ally.

Unless its Nick Yawn. Do I want to see Anne and Theresa allying it up. I feel the initial charm of Anne has been played out. Even with Nick I'm still not sold on Theresa I have a bad feeling she is going to be annoying the heck out of me in 2 months time and I don't want to miss out on my Blake Berris scenes.

Tuesday August 6:
Eric's shocked to learn Nicole had sex with Brady.
So I am assuming Kristen is the one who manages to let this little nugget slip out. I'd be more interested if it was Brady or Nicole who told him.
Nicole throwing it in his face would have my attention.
Brady in a brotherly heart to heart with Eric about how he feels guilty for using Nicole and then returning to Kristen and how Nicole may have a right to feel hurt about it. Worthwhile viewing.
But I'm pretty sure they'll go with the most juvenile uninteresting option.


Wednesday August 7:
JJ offers cousin Will moral support.
???? confused. Is JJ pushing Will to come forward and turn himself in for the EJ shooting?

Thursday August 8:
As Cameron and Abigail grow closer, Chad meets with a specialist to find out if he really does have a brain tumor.
Enough with Cameron and Abigail closer - he's too vacant for her. - better with Gabi their dual vacancy could be amusing. I want Abigail with someone more challenging.
Can you get a brain tumour from hitting your head whilst swimming? Why didn't they just go with brain injury.

Friday August 9:
Sami gives Sonny advice about his mother. Woohoo our bi annual emotionally charged redeem Sami speech where she earnestly gives out advice and then the very next day moves on to do something else reprehensible. Will I watch this one or just a montage of the previous ones.

while Will urges EJ to save his mom.
What EJ flagging in his efforts to save Sami already. Come on EJ give it the old college try. Rah Rah Rah.

EJ then comes up with a new plan to clear Sami's name.
Don't rely on EJ Sami, he's rarely come up with a plan capable of not backfiring horribly without the assistance of others. Remember when he had that great plan about saving Will from Nick's blackmail.... that's going just swimmingly.

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marie1969


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Jul 29 2013, 12:28 PM
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Jul 29 2013, 10:27 AM
The only advice Sami should be giving Sonny is "Please give your mother as many chances as Will gave me when I disappointed him".
:iagree: She could also add that his mom is right. She is messed up and he really can't blame any mom not wanting her as future in law.

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Sami gives Sonny advice about Adrienne
:huh?: :wtf: Please tell me that Sonny didn't ask for her advice. :shame: If he did, he really needs his brain checked along with Chad's.



Well better yet, Sami should tell Sony that his mom is a hypocrite who has forgotten about her past and where she came from. Sami also should inform Sony that Adrienne shot her own father who molested her and abused her alcoholic mother and not to mention her own brother was a rapist and her other brother attempted to commit murder in the past. So she has no room throwing stones at others in her glass house when she comes from a family even more dysfunctional than Will.

But since Sami cares about Sony, I guess she will tell him to forgive his mom which will make me puke.

I am hoping after this ordeal, Sami will embrace her dark side and go after those who hurt her.

LanaluvsBroe
Jul 29 2013, 06:57 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 29 2013, 05:03 AM
Why the hell are we discussing shit that happened way back in 2006??.... No one is going to change anyone's mind either way regardless of how many clips are posted....they have nothing to do with the spoilers out for this week.... Sami isn't worthy of the fight anymore ya'll, she's a shell if her former self, Ej can keep her... She's frankly not worthy of being loved by anyone but the SOB she's currently with....I enjoy this board too much because its not a shipper board....great discussions and debates happen all the time here, but baiting isn't discussion....
THIS. Why do all spoiler threads become Sami discussions? :facepalm:

Because somehow someone always the brings up the 'rape' thing to bait others. :frustration: :frustration:
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There is a ton of baiting going on from both sides. One side may start it in one thread and the other side may start it in another. It's unfair to suggest that it's just one fandom group starting trouble and causing everyone headaches every time.

:facepalm:

And quite frankly, from what I've seen of your posts in various threads on DR. You're clearly not in the position to call out another person for "baiting" others.
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Jul 30 2013, 09:19 PM
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Jul 29 2013, 12:28 PM
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Jul 29 2013, 10:27 AM
The only advice Sami should be giving Sonny is "Please give your mother as many chances as Will gave me when I disappointed him".
:iagree: She could also add that his mom is right. She is messed up and he really can't blame any mom not wanting her as future in law.

Quote:
 
Sami gives Sonny advice about Adrienne
:huh?: :wtf: Please tell me that Sonny didn't ask for her advice. :shame: If he did, he really needs his brain checked along with Chad's.



Well better yet, Sami should tell Sony that his mom is a hypocrite who has forgotten about her past and where she came from. Sami also should inform Sony that Adrienne shot her own father who molested her and abused her alcoholic mother and not to mention her own brother was a rapist and her other brother attempted to commit murder in the past. So she has no room throwing stones at others in her glass house when she comes from a family even more dysfunctional than Will.

But since Sami cares about Sony, I guess she will tell him to forgive his mom which will make me puke.

I am hoping after this ordeal, Sami will embrace her dark side and go after those who hurt her.

LanaluvsBroe
Jul 29 2013, 06:57 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 29 2013, 05:03 AM
Why the hell are we discussing shit that happened way back in 2006??.... No one is going to change anyone's mind either way regardless of how many clips are posted....they have nothing to do with the spoilers out for this week.... Sami isn't worthy of the fight anymore ya'll, she's a shell if her former self, Ej can keep her... She's frankly not worthy of being loved by anyone but the SOB she's currently with....I enjoy this board too much because its not a shipper board....great discussions and debates happen all the time here, but baiting isn't discussion....
THIS. Why do all spoiler threads become Sami discussions? :facepalm:

Because somehow someone always the brings up the 'rape' thing to bait others. :frustration: :frustration:
Simply bringing up the rape isn't a bait...if that was the case no one would be able to talk about any history on this show...Sami's rape of Austin is brought up on occasion still, so is Sami's death row and Lucas' involvement, or Rafe trying to steal Sami's kids, or go back further and we were all discussing just a few months ago how John's behavior was totally OOC and not true to history and examples were made as to why people thought that way. I understand that this board doesn't want to get into the back and forth discussion about the rape, because it leads absolutely no where, but let's face it...if you think it wasn't rape, no one is going to change and the same goes for those of us who thought it was rape. But regardless of our personal opinions on the matter, the show treated it as rape and called it rape, everyone from the producers to the writers to the actors and characters were saying the word for over a year and a half after it happened. It was what it was.....and it was very, very poorly handled by the show but simply bringing it up isn't a bait...because the show called it that, and as late as 2010 it was again brought up by the show in dialogue...
Edited by LuvingLumi, Jul 30 2013, 09:34 PM.
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Jul 30 2013, 09:31 PM
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Jul 30 2013, 09:19 PM
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Jul 29 2013, 12:28 PM
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Jul 29 2013, 10:27 AM
The only advice Sami should be giving Sonny is "Please give your mother as many chances as Will gave me when I disappointed him".
:iagree: She could also add that his mom is right. She is messed up and he really can't blame any mom not wanting her as future in law.

Quote:
 
Sami gives Sonny advice about Adrienne
:huh?: :wtf: Please tell me that Sonny didn't ask for her advice. :shame: If he did, he really needs his brain checked along with Chad's.



Well better yet, Sami should tell Sony that his mom is a hypocrite who has forgotten about her past and where she came from. Sami also should inform Sony that Adrienne shot her own father who molested her and abused her alcoholic mother and not to mention her own brother was a rapist and her other brother attempted to commit murder in the past. So she has no room throwing stones at others in her glass house when she comes from a family even more dysfunctional than Will.

But since Sami cares about Sony, I guess she will tell him to forgive his mom which will make me puke.

I am hoping after this ordeal, Sami will embrace her dark side and go after those who hurt her.

LanaluvsBroe
Jul 29 2013, 06:57 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 29 2013, 05:03 AM
Why the hell are we discussing shit that happened way back in 2006??.... No one is going to change anyone's mind either way regardless of how many clips are posted....they have nothing to do with the spoilers out for this week.... Sami isn't worthy of the fight anymore ya'll, she's a shell if her former self, Ej can keep her... She's frankly not worthy of being loved by anyone but the SOB she's currently with....I enjoy this board too much because its not a shipper board....great discussions and debates happen all the time here, but baiting isn't discussion....
THIS. Why do all spoiler threads become Sami discussions? :facepalm:

Because somehow someone always the brings up the 'rape' thing to bait others. :frustration: :frustration:
Simply bringing up the rape isn't a bait...if that was the case no one would be able to talk about any history on this show...Sami's rape of Austin is brought up on occasion still, so is Sami's death row and Lucas' involvement, or Rafe trying to steal Sami's kids, or go back further and we were all discussing just a few months ago how John's behavior was totally OOC and not true to history and examples were made as to why people thought that way. I understand that this board doesn't want to get into the back and forth discussion about the rape, because it leads absolutely no where, but let's face it...if you think it wasn't rape, no one is going to change and the same goes for those of us who thought it was rape. But regardless of our personal opinions on the matter, the show treated it as rape and called it rape, everyone from the producers to the writers to the actors and characters were saying the word for over a year and a half after it happened. It was what it was.....and it was very, very poorly handled by the show but simply bringing it up isn't a bait...because the show called it that, and as late as 2010 it was again brought up by the show in dialogue...
Yes but if you're going to talk about the show bringing it up you have to consider when it was brought up between Ejami before they had sex that may. It was made apparent in the dialogue that EJ wasn't rough or had physically hurt Sami in any way and that EJ's actions AFTER and not during the incident was what had hurt Sami the most.

I try to live by the rule that regardless of what I think about an incident...I take the characters POV of the situation and move on. I find that I enjoy the show much more that way.
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Jul 30 2013, 09:25 PM
There is a ton of baiting going on from both sides. One side may start it in one thread and the other side may start it in another. It's unfair to suggest that it's just one fandom group starting trouble and causing everyone headaches every time.

:facepalm:


LuvingLumi
Jul 30 2013, 09:31 PM
marie1969
Jul 30 2013, 09:19 PM
Sevprince
Jul 29 2013, 12:28 PM
camera shy
Jul 29 2013, 10:27 AM
The only advice Sami should be giving Sonny is "Please give your mother as many chances as Will gave me when I disappointed him".
:iagree: She could also add that his mom is right. She is messed up and he really can't blame any mom not wanting her as future in law.

Quote:
 
Sami gives Sonny advice about Adrienne
:huh?: :wtf: Please tell me that Sonny didn't ask for her advice. :shame: If he did, he really needs his brain checked along with Chad's.



Well better yet, Sami should tell Sony that his mom is a hypocrite who has forgotten about her past and where she came from. Sami also should inform Sony that Adrienne shot her own father who molested her and abused her alcoholic mother and not to mention her own brother was a rapist and her other brother attempted to commit murder in the past. So she has no room throwing stones at others in her glass house when she comes from a family even more dysfunctional than Will.

But since Sami cares about Sony, I guess she will tell him to forgive his mom which will make me puke.

I am hoping after this ordeal, Sami will embrace her dark side and go after those who hurt her.

LanaluvsBroe
Jul 29 2013, 06:57 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 29 2013, 05:03 AM
Why the hell are we discussing shit that happened way back in 2006??.... No one is going to change anyone's mind either way regardless of how many clips are posted....they have nothing to do with the spoilers out for this week.... Sami isn't worthy of the fight anymore ya'll, she's a shell if her former self, Ej can keep her... She's frankly not worthy of being loved by anyone but the SOB she's currently with....I enjoy this board too much because its not a shipper board....great discussions and debates happen all the time here, but baiting isn't discussion....
THIS. Why do all spoiler threads become Sami discussions? :facepalm:

Because somehow someone always the brings up the 'rape' thing to bait others. :frustration: :frustration:
Simply bringing up the rape isn't a bait...if that was the case no one would be able to talk about any history on this show...Sami's rape of Austin is brought up on occasion still, so is Sami's death row and Lucas' involvement, or Rafe trying to steal Sami's kids, or go back further and we were all discussing just a few months ago how John's behavior was totally OOC and not true to history and examples were made as to why people thought that way. I understand that this board doesn't want to get into the back and forth discussion about the rape, because it leads absolutely no where, but let's face it...if you think it wasn't rape, no one is going to change and the same goes for those of us who thought it was rape. But regardless of our personal opinions on the matter, the show treated it as rape and called it rape, everyone from the producers to the writers to the actors and characters were saying the word for over a year and a half after it happened. It was what it was.....and it was very, very poorly handled by the show but simply bringing it up isn't a bait...because the show called it that, and as late as 2010 it was again brought up by the show in dialogue...


I completely agree that beating up the dead horse is not going to change anyone mind. I would not presume to tell anyone what to discuss, it is not my place. Hey if someone enjoys bringing up a terrible story from almost seven years ago, it is their prerogative. but we all know every time is being brought, it always start the same discussion over and over again and it is so tiresome. Since it usually has nothing with the current storyline or spoilers, it feels that it is done to piss off people and continue the vicious circle.

I could be wrong, but I personally see it as bait and just choose to ignore it instead of feeding into the beast. After all we have been doing this dance for years and I have grown immune to it now.

I meant no offense, just my opinion on the matter.
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Jul 30 2013, 09:47 PM
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Well better yet, Sami should tell Sony that his mom is a hypocrite who has forgotten about her past and where she came from. Sami also should inform Sony that Adrienne shot her own father who molested her and abused her alcoholic mother and not to mention her own brother was a rapist and her other brother attempted to commit murder in the past. So she has no room throwing stones at others in her glass house when she comes from a family even more dysfunctional than Will.

But since Sami cares about Sony, I guess she will tell him to forgive his mom which will make me puke.

I am hoping after this ordeal, Sami will embrace her dark side and go after those who hurt her.

LanaluvsBroe
Jul 29 2013, 06:57 AM

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Because somehow someone always the brings up the 'rape' thing to bait others. :frustration: :frustration:
Simply bringing up the rape isn't a bait...if that was the case no one would be able to talk about any history on this show...Sami's rape of Austin is brought up on occasion still, so is Sami's death row and Lucas' involvement, or Rafe trying to steal Sami's kids, or go back further and we were all discussing just a few months ago how John's behavior was totally OOC and not true to history and examples were made as to why people thought that way. I understand that this board doesn't want to get into the back and forth discussion about the rape, because it leads absolutely no where, but let's face it...if you think it wasn't rape, no one is going to change and the same goes for those of us who thought it was rape. But regardless of our personal opinions on the matter, the show treated it as rape and called it rape, everyone from the producers to the writers to the actors and characters were saying the word for over a year and a half after it happened. It was what it was.....and it was very, very poorly handled by the show but simply bringing it up isn't a bait...because the show called it that, and as late as 2010 it was again brought up by the show in dialogue...
Yes but if you're going to talk about the show bringing it up you have to consider when it was brought up between Ejami before they had sex that may. It was made apparent in the dialogue that EJ wasn't rough or had physically hurt Sami in any way and that EJ's actions AFTER and not during the incident was what had hurt Sami the most.

I try to live by the rule that regardless of what I think about an incident...I take the characters POV of the situation and move on. I find that I enjoy the show much more that way.
if we are going to take the characters POV on the subject then Sami still considers it rape...she spoke to Rafe during Johnny's cancer storyline, that was in 2011 I believe, how Johnny always had it bad from the get go....and referenced how Johnny came into the world as a reminder. Let's face it.....it really doesn't matter now...Ejami is together, but that doesn't stop people that post here from discussing history....without history we wouldn't have a soap and it is part of Ejami's history, just like the shooting is and the Rafe 2 and other things...if we were to not discuss anything that Ejami have done to one another solely because some consider just the discussion bating then we might as well never speak about anything on Days. Like I said, I don't mind the rape, I hate the way the show glorified it, I hate the way the show didn't care to write it the proper way and there was so many ways they could have handled it correctly and still written Ejami, actually if they would have handled it correctly it might have been easier for those of us that never liked the coupling to at least tolerate the story.....
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Jul 30 2013, 09:56 PM
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Jul 30 2013, 09:25 PM
There is a ton of baiting going on from both sides. One side may start it in one thread and the other side may start it in another. It's unfair to suggest that it's just one fandom group starting trouble and causing everyone headaches every time.

:facepalm:


LuvingLumi
Jul 30 2013, 09:31 PM
marie1969
Jul 30 2013, 09:19 PM
Sevprince
Jul 29 2013, 12:28 PM

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Well better yet, Sami should tell Sony that his mom is a hypocrite who has forgotten about her past and where she came from. Sami also should inform Sony that Adrienne shot her own father who molested her and abused her alcoholic mother and not to mention her own brother was a rapist and her other brother attempted to commit murder in the past. So she has no room throwing stones at others in her glass house when she comes from a family even more dysfunctional than Will.

But since Sami cares about Sony, I guess she will tell him to forgive his mom which will make me puke.

I am hoping after this ordeal, Sami will embrace her dark side and go after those who hurt her.

LanaluvsBroe
Jul 29 2013, 06:57 AM

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Because somehow someone always the brings up the 'rape' thing to bait others. :frustration: :frustration:
Simply bringing up the rape isn't a bait...if that was the case no one would be able to talk about any history on this show...Sami's rape of Austin is brought up on occasion still, so is Sami's death row and Lucas' involvement, or Rafe trying to steal Sami's kids, or go back further and we were all discussing just a few months ago how John's behavior was totally OOC and not true to history and examples were made as to why people thought that way. I understand that this board doesn't want to get into the back and forth discussion about the rape, because it leads absolutely no where, but let's face it...if you think it wasn't rape, no one is going to change and the same goes for those of us who thought it was rape. But regardless of our personal opinions on the matter, the show treated it as rape and called it rape, everyone from the producers to the writers to the actors and characters were saying the word for over a year and a half after it happened. It was what it was.....and it was very, very poorly handled by the show but simply bringing it up isn't a bait...because the show called it that, and as late as 2010 it was again brought up by the show in dialogue...


I completely agree that beating up the dead horse is not going to change anyone mind. I would not presume to tell anyone what to discuss, it is not my place. Hey if someone enjoys bringing up a terrible story from almost seven years ago, it is their prerogative. but we all know every time is being brought, it always start the same discussion over and over again and it is so tiresome. Since it usually has nothing with the current storyline or spoilers, it feels that it is done to piss off people and continue the vicious circle.

I could be wrong, but I personally see it as bait and just choose to ignore it instead of feeding into the beast. After all we have been doing this dance for years and I have grown immune to it now.

I meant no offense, just my opinion on the matter.
I think what you failed to stipulate is that it happens on both sides....it's not only those that bring up the rape that start this thing.....others do it too and just as much.
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Jul 30 2013, 09:31 PM
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Jul 30 2013, 09:19 PM
Sevprince
Jul 29 2013, 12:28 PM

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Well better yet, Sami should tell Sony that his mom is a hypocrite who has forgotten about her past and where she came from. Sami also should inform Sony that Adrienne shot her own father who molested her and abused her alcoholic mother and not to mention her own brother was a rapist and her other brother attempted to commit murder in the past. So she has no room throwing stones at others in her glass house when she comes from a family even more dysfunctional than Will.

But since Sami cares about Sony, I guess she will tell him to forgive his mom which will make me puke.

I am hoping after this ordeal, Sami will embrace her dark side and go after those who hurt her.

LanaluvsBroe
Jul 29 2013, 06:57 AM

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Because somehow someone always the brings up the 'rape' thing to bait others. :frustration: :frustration:
Simply bringing up the rape isn't a bait...if that was the case no one would be able to talk about any history on this show...Sami's rape of Austin is brought up on occasion still, so is Sami's death row and Lucas' involvement, or Rafe trying to steal Sami's kids, or go back further and we were all discussing just a few months ago how John's behavior was totally OOC and not true to history and examples were made as to why people thought that way. I understand that this board doesn't want to get into the back and forth discussion about the rape, because it leads absolutely no where, but let's face it...if you think it wasn't rape, no one is going to change and the same goes for those of us who thought it was rape. But regardless of our personal opinions on the matter, the show treated it as rape and called it rape, everyone from the producers to the writers to the actors and characters were saying the word for over a year and a half after it happened. It was what it was.....and it was very, very poorly handled by the show but simply bringing it up isn't a bait...because the show called it that, and as late as 2010 it was again brought up by the show in dialogue...
Yes but if you're going to talk about the show bringing it up you have to consider when it was brought up between Ejami before they had sex that may. It was made apparent in the dialogue that EJ wasn't rough or had physically hurt Sami in any way and that EJ's actions AFTER and not during the incident was what had hurt Sami the most.

I try to live by the rule that regardless of what I think about an incident...I take the characters POV of the situation and move on. I find that I enjoy the show much more that way.
Which characters POV are you taking?

Have you considered that there are various other characters on the show who probably share the views of other posters on the board.

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Jul 30 2013, 09:58 PM
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Jul 30 2013, 09:47 PM
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Jul 30 2013, 09:31 PM
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Jul 30 2013, 09:19 PM

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Simply bringing up the rape isn't a bait...if that was the case no one would be able to talk about any history on this show...Sami's rape of Austin is brought up on occasion still, so is Sami's death row and Lucas' involvement, or Rafe trying to steal Sami's kids, or go back further and we were all discussing just a few months ago how John's behavior was totally OOC and not true to history and examples were made as to why people thought that way. I understand that this board doesn't want to get into the back and forth discussion about the rape, because it leads absolutely no where, but let's face it...if you think it wasn't rape, no one is going to change and the same goes for those of us who thought it was rape. But regardless of our personal opinions on the matter, the show treated it as rape and called it rape, everyone from the producers to the writers to the actors and characters were saying the word for over a year and a half after it happened. It was what it was.....and it was very, very poorly handled by the show but simply bringing it up isn't a bait...because the show called it that, and as late as 2010 it was again brought up by the show in dialogue...
Yes but if you're going to talk about the show bringing it up you have to consider when it was brought up between Ejami before they had sex that may. It was made apparent in the dialogue that EJ wasn't rough or had physically hurt Sami in any way and that EJ's actions AFTER and not during the incident was what had hurt Sami the most.

I try to live by the rule that regardless of what I think about an incident...I take the characters POV of the situation and move on. I find that I enjoy the show much more that way.
if we are going to take the characters POV on the subject then Sami still considers it rape...she spoke to Rafe during Johnny's cancer storyline, that was in 2011 I believe, how Johnny always had it bad from the get go....and referenced how Johnny came into the world as a reminder. Let's face it.....it really doesn't matter now...Ejami is together, but that doesn't stop people that post here from discussing history....without history we wouldn't have a soap and it is part of Ejami's history, just like the shooting is and the Rafe 2 and other things...if we were to not discuss anything that Ejami have done to one another solely because some consider just the discussion bating then we might as well never speak about anything on Days. Like I said, I don't mind the rape, I hate the way the show glorified it, I hate the way the show didn't care to write it the proper way and there was so many ways they could have handled it correctly and still written Ejami, actually if they would have handled it correctly it might have been easier for those of us that never liked the coupling to at least tolerate the story.....
As any soapfan will attest...sadly rape is more often than not foreplay in the soap world. Does it do justice to real life rape victims..absolutely not, but as they say it is what it is. Just as Jack/Kayla moved on from that rape..so have Ejami moved on from theirs.

I personally am enjoying the soap as a whole these days. They are giving a nod to history here and there, but they are also ignoring bits of it too.

I think the start to this whole debate was the question of some peoples dislike of Sami. I happen to like Sami, always have - well except for when she turned into the soccer mom from hell when she was with Rafe - but to each his own. Still, despite where personal tastes are concerned, the simple fact is that Ali Sweeney is considered the leading lady of days...just as James Scott is considered its main leading man. And really I don't think bitching and daily diatribes are going to be changing that anytime soon.

But to each his own as they say.
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