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Friday September 6th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 6 2013, 01:19 AM (13,246 Views)
gailwinters
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Sep 7 2013, 10:13 PM
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Sep 7 2013, 09:40 PM
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Sep 6 2013, 06:29 PM

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The tone of her voice suggested she knew he was raped.What else could she be referring to when making that remark in such a harsh tone of voice.I don't think she was just referring to prison generally being a bad place,I think she was actually trying to scare him which was cruel and stupid given his age.
What else could she be referring to? Simply being in jail/prison. That alone is an unpleasant experience. That's why there are shows like Scared Straight, where bad kids experience what it's like in jail for a day or two, in an effort to get them back on the right track. I think JJ could use a night or two in jail. He needs to see where his actions could lead him.
JJ is stupid.He would know prison is not a nice place for anyone just from general knowledge.Hope and Lucas have both been in prison,she could have said ask Hope or Lucas but she specifically said Nick which is why I believe she was referring to prison rape.I just don't think a mother should say this to her son just before he is escorted to a jail cell.
I don't think Jen has been understanding to JJ, but I absolutely do not believe she was referencing Nick's being raped in prison when she mentioned him to JJ. She mentioned him because he is someone who JJ knows.

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marie1969
Sep 7 2013, 05:05 PM
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Sep 6 2013, 01:51 PM
Rosebud
Sep 6 2013, 01:47 PM
I couldn't help but compare Elvis' letter to Sami in jail to John's jailhouse letter to Marlena and how much more powerful and significant and worthy it was to that slop Elvis wrote.
considering all the screen time EJami have shared in the "Sami's cell" set, i'm surprised there was something EJ had to write on paper that he hadn't already told her 100 times before.
had we not gotten all those jail scenes, maybe the letter would've been more effective and touching. it just seems like EJami filler and a crumb for the fans.





The Scorpion
Sep 6 2013, 03:23 PM
Lumi_are_true_love
Sep 6 2013, 01:48 PM
EJ doesn't know the meaning of the word love and I don't believe hes in love with the person he raped,manhandled and used domestic violence on and tried to kill along with her family and her kids before they were born,he looks riddiculous and this so called professing his love and sacrafice things EJ knows nothing about looks riddiculous on him as well he knows nothing of these words with the person he totured for 7 years and he looks really dumb doing this and his actions aren't even believeable.

The viewers haven't forgotten what EJ did to Sami and her whole family over the last seven tears. Again this is an epic fail it isn't remotely believeable that EJ is in love with the person he raped and tortured and made her life hell for the last 7years and neither is Sami being in love with the person that raped her and laughed at her pain with the fake rafe and more and didn't care that he did and that she shot in the head.
Well, I'd say this, I buy their passionate sex scenes as well as their love. I could also say that the Days writers who all have been different when it comes to writing for EJ and Sami - they have created one of Daytimes most interesting relationships. I mean, despite their shitty past these two can not quit each other and attract each other like magnets. And comparing a complicated pair like EJami with Jarlena is both foolish and unsuccessful in my opinion. These are two completely different relationships. Also, I like how viewers are not interested in the boring couples like Dannifer and company. My point is, that, due to EJ and Sami being so unpredictable and passionate, nothing is taken for granted in their relationship. It can turn either way - and we've seen that on the show. They've waged war on each other but right now only love reigns. In a soap a lot of stuff can happen to one couple. A lot hinged on how the actors tackle this in their scenes. So thanks to JS and Ali's chemistry, I as a viewer buys every scene between them. This is my opinion, but I just wanted people to know that there are viewers who happily buy the stuff they deliver. And I don't think I'm the only one, considering their popularity.

No, you are certainly not the only one. I would venture a guess that the majority of the audience is buying and enjoying the heck of it. TPTB knows they cannot please everyone.
Rosebud
Sep 6 2013, 04:25 PM
Laufeyson
Sep 6 2013, 01:57 PM
The writers continue to fail to muster some semblance of real love between EJ and Sami. It's like as long as they keep saying they love one another over and over, people might actually believe it. I don't, jmo. It takes more than words and EJ (and Sami's actions) for years have soured everything about them as a couple. Their (dirt) poor man's version of whatever it is I'm supposed to be seeing is not inspiring me at all. When I prefer to watch crazy obssessive Nick and Gabi aver these two, something is clearly wrong.
For me, it's because I have zero interest in Sami's love life. Period. She's always been this needy girl who has never grown up (I don't care how many children she spawns) and who is always desperate to have a man in her life. And I frankly don't care if she has one or not. I'm not interested in watching her. She has no elegance or charisma or sex appeal. It's like watching my next door neighbor if they suddenly got a job on TV.

While I respect your opinion, considering how popular Sami/AS is, I would say that most viewers disagree.
:cheer: I loved the scene where EJ was writing the love letter.
I loved seeing him in the Robe and his chest showing.
I was glad to see EJ looking comfortable.
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Sep 7 2013, 10:46 PM
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Sep 7 2013, 10:13 PM
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Sep 7 2013, 09:40 PM
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Sep 7 2013, 09:13 PM

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What else could she be referring to? Simply being in jail/prison. That alone is an unpleasant experience. That's why there are shows like Scared Straight, where bad kids experience what it's like in jail for a day or two, in an effort to get them back on the right track. I think JJ could use a night or two in jail. He needs to see where his actions could lead him.
JJ is stupid.He would know prison is not a nice place for anyone just from general knowledge.Hope and Lucas have both been in prison,she could have said ask Hope or Lucas but she specifically said Nick which is why I believe she was referring to prison rape.I just don't think a mother should say this to her son just before he is escorted to a jail cell.
I don't think Jen has been understanding to JJ, but I absolutely do not believe she was referencing Nick's being raped in prison when she mentioned him to JJ. She mentioned him because he is someone who JJ knows.

Also, Nick was in prison most recently of the three.

Moreover, while many people know that they should not commit crimes or they will end up prison, some kids need to experience prison first hand to remember that. I see it all the time on those shows. They think they are bad asses and can get away with anything. A few hours later, they are crying for their parents and promising to go back on the straight and narrow. While some will never get that message (see Stefano, EJ (and I'm perfectly fine with that ;) ), I hope JJ does.
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Sep 7 2013, 10:46 PM
BeeBee
Sep 7 2013, 10:13 PM
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Sep 7 2013, 09:40 PM
BeeBee
Sep 7 2013, 09:13 PM

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What else could she be referring to? Simply being in jail/prison. That alone is an unpleasant experience. That's why there are shows like Scared Straight, where bad kids experience what it's like in jail for a day or two, in an effort to get them back on the right track. I think JJ could use a night or two in jail. He needs to see where his actions could lead him.
JJ is stupid.He would know prison is not a nice place for anyone just from general knowledge.Hope and Lucas have both been in prison,she could have said ask Hope or Lucas but she specifically said Nick which is why I believe she was referring to prison rape.I just don't think a mother should say this to her son just before he is escorted to a jail cell.
I don't think Jen has been understanding to JJ, but I absolutely do not believe she was referencing Nick's being raped in prison when she mentioned him to JJ. She mentioned him because he is someone who JJ knows.

JJ knows his Uncle Lucas and his cousin Hope.I think his relationship with Lucas is better than any relationship he has with Nick and Lucas is older so JJ would probably be more receptive to Lucas than Nick.I guess we will just have to agree to disagree about Jennifer's reason for mentioning Nick.
P.S. I meant to post "JJ is not stupid." in my other post.
Edited by BeeBee, Sep 7 2013, 11:21 PM.
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Lucas was almost beaten to death in prison. Tomsell won't allow Lucas to talk about it to JJ though, it might take more than 45 seconds, and the time simply can't be spared.
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"Right now what I like most about Aiden is Hope" ~ DC

TreasureCove
Sep 8 2013, 01:05 AM
Lucas was almost beaten to death in prison. Tomsell won't allow Lucas to talk about it to JJ though, it might take more than 45 seconds, and the time simply can't be spared.
Hope was beaten with a bag of oranges and probably would've been killed had Bo not rescued her. And Jen was there, "working" with/for the Warden at the time.

As this JJ story progresses, it would make sense for JJ to have talks with people like Maggie & Brady about addiction. Let's face it - JJ has a drug problem.
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While I may think that the actor who plays JJ is good, although I'm not interested in what this character is doing or not doing. Reason for this is that the character is linked to Jenifer and Daniel's sl and I find nothing entertaining with their sl or these two characters, then that Jennifer was popular back in the day I do not care, right now so suck the character and adds nothing of interest in my opinion, and the same with Daniel. I mean what is exciting about this character? Nada zero. IMO, it's one thing that sucks with this show, it's regardles what story they are writing so there can never be exciting if the characters are boring. I'm not so sure it can be really good if the writers do not start shape up characters and really look at which characters who can bring something to a story, etc. Family Drama oh yes but it takes an interesting family to begin with.
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Kristen looked hot today! Loved the top half of her outfit.
Edited by Yoryla, Sep 8 2013, 05:22 AM.
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Sep 8 2013, 04:13 AM
While I may think that the actor who plays JJ is good, although I'm not interested in what this character is doing or not doing. Reason for this is that the character is linked to Jenifer and Daniel's sl and I find nothing entertaining with their sl or these two characters, then that Jennifer was popular back in the day I do not care, right now so suck the character and adds nothing of interest in my opinion, and the same with Daniel. I mean what is exciting about this character? Nada zero. IMO, it's one thing that sucks with this show, it's regardles what story they are writing so there can never be exciting if the characters are boring. I'm not so sure it can be really good if the writers do not start shape up characters and really look at which characters who can bring something to a story, etc. Family Drama oh yes but it takes an interesting family to begin with.
I love JJ because he's the one person on the canvas who has been allowed to visibly grieve for Jack. The problem is that his grief for Jack is cruelly (and I mean cruelly to the viewers who loved Jack) being written as a "problem". His love for Jack is leading to what we are supposed to be believe is evil things. He's a druggie and worse than that - he DOESN'T LIKE DANIEL. As the whole town knows and tells us at least once usually more than once every episode, Daniel is wonderful and Jennifer and Daniel belong together.

The writers will kill JJ or make him accept Daniel after a long period of suffering, but they won't let him keep voicing viewer disgust with the show. He's not for that. He's there to show how awful and messed up people (including viewers) who hate Daniel are and what happens to them.

Also, I don't think JJ has a drug problem. Theresa has a drug problem. JJ smokes pot, which is being made legal in many places. Yes, JJ's too young and probably smokes too much, but he's self-medicating his pain because his mother is too worried about her relationship with Daniel to get her son to Marlena's office. Let's face it, why would she do anything else? Jack was tortured and suffered from PTSD and she reacted the same. And we're supposed to root for her. It's really indefensible.

JJ's big crime is dealing, and he's dealt more than pot - including pills and the coke he got for Theresa. I agree that he's a kid who thinks he's a badass and probably needs to be sacred onto the straight and narrow. But unfortunately, as far as JJ's mother is concerned, this is nothing but an impediment to her love for Daniel.

Also, I think there are writers that hate Daniel as much as some viewers, which is why some of the writing for JJ has been so good, but TomSell will ultimately direct JJ's fate and that fate is to be punished for not accepting Daniel as the center of his life (and the show).


**edited to reflect that not all viewers hate Daniel. He does have fans, and that should be respected. However, I will say the writers would be smart if they allowed more characters to speak for the number of viewers who don't like Daniel and miss Jack and Lucas and John as major parts of the canvas and allowed those characters to thrive rather than be punished.
Edited by Honeybees, Sep 8 2013, 11:15 AM.
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Sep 8 2013, 01:57 AM
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Sep 8 2013, 01:05 AM
Lucas was almost beaten to death in prison. Tomsell won't allow Lucas to talk about it to JJ though, it might take more than 45 seconds, and the time simply can't be spared.
Hope was beaten with a bag of oranges and probably would've been killed had Bo not rescued her. And Jen was there, "working" with/for the Warden at the time.

As this JJ story progresses, it would make sense for JJ to have talks with people like Maggie & Brady about addiction. Let's face it - JJ has a drug problem.
So does lucas had addiction problem to alcohol but if they will have someone talk to JJ It be Maggie Daniel biggest worship while Brady live on his mind on world on his own while lucas does not worship Daniel they not going someone that does not worship Daniel to help JJ even JJ drug buddy teresa that part of cast have little crush on Daniel.but I do not think JJ have drug problem which make worse that he deal with drugs
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Sep 8 2013, 01:57 AM
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Sep 8 2013, 01:05 AM
Lucas was almost beaten to death in prison. Tomsell won't allow Lucas to talk about it to JJ though, it might take more than 45 seconds, and the time simply can't be spared.
Hope was beaten with a bag of oranges and probably would've been killed had Bo not rescued her. And Jen was there, "working" with/for the Warden at the time.

As this JJ story progresses, it would make sense for JJ to have talks with people like Maggie & Brady about addiction. Let's face it - JJ has a drug problem.
Brady shouldn't be giving advice to a dog where to pee...
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I really miss the Sami that did anything to get what she wants. Watching this clip reminded me of those days.
http://youtu.be/bgHh1iqDg44
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Yes that is how they should be writing Sami, and this clip shows why she is such a good match for EJ, they are both devious.
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♥ LUMI ♥

Oh the Sami I loved... The one that meshed perfectly with my Lucas! Where the hell did that person go?
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THAT was the real Sami, not this pale shadow that's o screen now! I liked her, maybe even loved her (with Lucas of course) but now I just loathe her.
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Well I guess Nicole wasn't the only golddigger in Salem.
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Sep 8 2013, 10:18 AM
I really miss the Sami that did anything to get what she wants. Watching this clip reminded me of those days.
http://youtu.be/bgHh1iqDg44
Did AS have laryngitis in those scenes? Why is she whispering?
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Sep 8 2013, 05:20 PM
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Sep 8 2013, 10:18 AM
I really miss the Sami that did anything to get what she wants. Watching this clip reminded me of those days.
http://youtu.be/bgHh1iqDg44
Did AS have laryngitis in those scenes? Why is she whispering?
I think her throat got cut with glass while Sami was confronting Tony. They explain it @ 5:30
http://youtu.be/uVWQ0WiG6Kw
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Sep 8 2013, 06:11 PM
Rosebud
Sep 8 2013, 05:20 PM
DS1126
Sep 8 2013, 10:18 AM
I really miss the Sami that did anything to get what she wants. Watching this clip reminded me of those days.
http://youtu.be/bgHh1iqDg44
Did AS have laryngitis in those scenes? Why is she whispering?
I think her throat got cut with glass while Sami was confronting Tony. They explain it @ 5:30
http://youtu.be/uVWQ0WiG6Kw
I don't know why but the vid isn't working for me, but I take your word for it. Thanks!
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Part of me was with Jen, because let's face it. JJ has been playing her. He's been insincere and a liar in so many ways. He's used his anger as a way not only to explain his wrong-doing, but to justify it. He needs to pay a price, because he's been nothing if not dishonest and manipulative since he hit town, lying with ease and showing a sense of self-satisfaction after any lie that was accepted at face value.

That said, I like JJ, and I don't like Daniel. I guess I'm supposed to, but I don't. Everyone's got Jj's number, and he'll have to face consequences for his actions. But no one sees Daniel
for the womanizer he's been. I'm not saying he's evil, but he's not acted like the great guy everyone says he is, either. He's been self-absorbed. He's been unforgiving. He's failed to see others' points of view when their views clashed with his. He's manhandled Jen's son.

Jj's been self-absorbed too. He's been unforgiving. He's been slow to truly see anyone's POV outside his own. But he's a kid...an angry, grieving kid.

What's Daniel's excuse?
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