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Monday September 9th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 9 2013, 01:27 AM (7,806 Views)
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Laufeyson
Sep 10 2013, 08:41 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 08:39 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 08:37 AM
JessicaLeigh
Sep 10 2013, 06:48 AM
This episode, taken up as it was by Sami's trial and Chad/Abigail/Cameron crap, did pretty much nothing for me. The worst bit, though, was Eric's treatment of Nicole. He's been almost scornful of her lately, while telling Kristen, the woman who tried to kill his mother and who RAPED him, what a ~*~fantastic~*~ mother she'd be.

Ugh, fuck that and fuck him right now. Sorry, Padre!
to be fair, Eric doesn't know that "rape" bit yet.
Right. And at the moment, Eric is starting to suspect that Nicole, not Kristen, had something to do with the drugging and hotel room incident.
Which only makes me dislike him a little more.
Have they actually shown him thinking that it's Nicole?
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Right. And at the moment, Eric is starting to suspect that Nicole, not Kristen, had something to do with the drugging and hotel room incident.
Which only makes me dislike him a little more.
Why? I mean, Eric's suspicions make sense. He has no evidence that ties Kristen to the hotel but plenty to Nicole. In fact, there were several things (like nicole's hotel matches) that sparked his memory to the night he was sick. Based on the little information he has, I don't blame the guy.
Oh he has every right in the world to think it's Nicole and think badly of her, that doesn't mean he's right and THAT makes me like him a little less than I did 2 days ago.......and until the whole truth is out, him and Brady can rot.
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http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/

Director: Grant A. Johnson
Scriptwriter: Richard Culliton


Segment 1: Abby rushes out of the pub and tells Chad they need to talk. He can't. Sami's trial is starting and he got called to testify. Abby - OMG, what an awful day. Chad got a text from Sonny. Both he and Will got called in for today as well.

Trask is questioning Will. She asks if he knew about the video of his mom attacking Det. Bernardi. Will - Yes I knew about the video. Trask - And given the incriminating nature of the video you lied to the police, covering up that the video even existed. Justin objects - Argumentative. The judge tells Will to answer. Will - No, I did not tell anybody about the video. Trask - In point of fact, you lied under oath with good reason of course. You were trying to help your mother cover up the fact that she murdered Det. Bernardi. Justin objects. Trask continues - Just like 3 yrs ago when you helped her cover up the fact that she shot EJ DiMera in the head. Justin protests. Trask claims she is establishing a pattern. The defendant has a history of trying to solve her problems with a gun and having the witness here to lie about it, to aid and abet, to obstruct justice. But you and your mother aren't getting away with it this time. This time you're going straight to prison. Judge - Guard, escort the witness to a holding cell. Sami - What! No! You can't do that. Will, I'm sorry Mom. Sonny wakes up Will - You're having a nightmare. Will - OMG, that was awful. Sonny - It was just a dream. Whatever it was, it's not going to happen. Will hopes not.

Sami's trial starts.

Brady tells Nicole that although she thinks she knows Eric better than anyone in the world, he is his brother. Nicole - He is your brother but he's not crazy. He's not going to marry you and Kristen DiMera. Brady thinks he will and give them his blessing.

Kristen makes it clear to Eric that she wants him to tell Brady that he won't let them take Precana counselling at St Luke's and that he won't marry them. Eric asks if her objections are on religious grounds. She laughs. No, my objections are personal.

Will tells Sonny about the dream. Sonny agrees that it was a crappy dream but that's all it was; it's not an omen. Will comments that Gabi was supposed to be back with Ari by now. Sonny talked to her and everything is under control. Will finds that hard to believe. Sonny - Childcare wise everything is under control. He tells Will he doesn't want to testify against his mom. Will guesses that until he met him Sonny never needed immunity from prosecution. Sonny assures him that everything is going to be okay. We'll get through this together. Will - When this is over I'm never lying for my Mom again. I'll only lie for you. They kiss.

Trask makes her opening statement. I will proved that the defendant lies and continues to lie. I will prove that she had the motive, means and opportunity to murder Det. Bernardi. EJ and Justin talk quietly as she continues. She murdered Marge Bernardi's husband. She murdered Tim Bernari's father, a decorated hero of the Salem P.D. She took a sacred human life and for that she must pay. Justin - So we hear the prosecutor say my client Samantha Brady lies. Here's what she didn't say; that Samantha Brady is stupid because she's not, she's far from it. So if indeed Samantha Brady is not stupid, why in the world would she shoot a man in a hospital room knowing there was no viable means of escape. Because she had to. She had no choice. She had to stop Bernardi right then and there. And why would she say Bernardi was holding a razor if he wasn't? Why would she make up something like that unless she knew it could be corroborated. Why not just say Bernardi was choking Det. Hernandez or smothering him. Why invent a fictitious weapon? She said so because it's the truth and every time you ask yourself why during the course of this trial the only answer is that Samantha Brady is telling the truth.

Chad - So what's wrong? Abby - I'm fine and you're going to be fine. The important thing is that the lawyer got you immunity. Chad - Yeah, I just hate doing this to Will's mom. He's so worried about her and his little brothers and sisters ... Abby - You did everything you could to avoid this so now maybe the best thing you can do is get it over with. Chad - And get on with our lives, right? He kisses her cheek. I'll text you later. You can tell me what's wrong then.

Nicole - The whole world with the exception of you of course knows that Kristen DiMera is crazy; a whack job ... Brady - And you are the poster child for mental health I suppose. Nicole - And apparently it's contagious because you're just as crazy as she is now. Do you ever think of what she has done to your family. Do you really want to do the 'til death do you part thing. You do know that Kristen sees death as a viable alternative to divorce. Brady - I'm glad convent life has mellowed you out Nicole. Nicole - I just have to accept the fact that she's got her hooks in you but why would Eric want to marry the two of you. I can just imagine how she got this sicko idea ... Brady - It wasn't her idea. It was my idea.

Eric - FYI, guys like me aren't supposed to lie. Kristen - Good because I'm not asking you to lie. Eric - Yes you are. Why don't you just tell Brady you don't want to do this? Kristen - He asked you before he talked to me. Eric - Not a good reason to turn down this idea. Kristen - But I'm not asking you to lie. It's to spare Brady's feelings. This whole Precana wedding thing can't happen. It would just be a whole lot easier if it came from you.


Segment 2: Cam sees Abby outside the pub and turns to leave but she asks him not to go. Cam - Is everything okay with Chad; he seemed upset. Abby - Yeah, wouldn't you be too if you were going through everything he was going through. Cue f/b of Chad telling him he's dying. So he finally told you the truth. Abby - The truth?

Trask calls Chad DiMera to the stand. EJ asks Justin why she's calling Chad and ??? Sami - They knew I knew Bernardi and was lying about it. Sonny - She doesn't want to call anyone who might open the door to the money that was found in Bernardi's son's account. Chad is sworn in. Trask introduces the video as Exhibit A. She asks Chad if he recorded a video of Samantha Brady on May 7th of this year. Yes. Can you tell us who else was in the video. Chad - Det. Bernardi. Trask gets permission from the judge to play the video to show the jury what happened weeks before Det. Bernardi's murder.

Nicole is shocked that this was all Brady's idea. What is wrong with you? Brady - I forgot I'm being a friend here. I told you the truth but you're not being a friend. You're the president and founder of the Kristen DiMera Defamation Society and I'm sick of it. Nicole - I am your friend and I just want what's best for you and that's not to marry that woman. Brady doesn't want to hear any more. Nicole - Let's take Kristen out of the equation. Think about what this would do to Eric; asking him to marry you to a woman that tried to kill his mother. That hasn't slipped Brady's mind. We're all trying to move on here. Nicole - Fine then, move on. Marry her. Just leave Eric out of this. Don't put him in a position where he has to say no to you. Brady - I already asked him. Nicole - Then how did if feel to have your brother the priest laugh in your face. Brady - He didn't. As a matter of fact he's thinking about it. FYI Kristen is the problem. She's the one who has the issues with this and they're talking about it right now as we speak.

Eric isn't going to smooth her path. Kristen - Come on, I'm not asking you to knock over a bank. Eric - Why are you so against the idea? Seems to me you'd want me to be backing you up. Cue f/b of rape. Kristen - I just think the less time you and I spend together the better it will be for Brady, for me and for you.


Segment 3: Cam - I'm glad he finally told you. Abby - What do you mean finally? He tells me everything. He told me everything from the very beginning. Cam - Really? Abby - Yes. He doesn't want to testify against Will's mom but we knew he had to go to court sometimes. Cam - The trial! Abby - Yes. I really don't need you giving me trouble about Chad right now. Cam - What's wrong? Abby - Chad tried really hard to keep me out of this whole video thing. Why is everything so screwed up all the time! Cam - What is wrong? Abby - I should probably just tell you anyways. It's going to be all over the papers; I can't keep it secret. JJ ... I feel like I don't even know him anymore.

Trask makes a smart remark to Chad after they watch the video. The judge cautions her. She asks him if he made the video on his phone. Yes. Trask - Can you explain why you didn't come forward when Ms. Brady was first charged. Let me remind you that you lose your immunity if you lie under oath. Chad - It sort of made Ms. Brady look ... I mean it made it clear she knew the guy. Trask - You had to stop yourself from saying guilty just now, didn't you. Both Justin and the Judge object. Trask - Mr. DiMera, did your brother, Ms. Brady's fiancée, know about the video as well. Chad - Yes. Trask - What did he advise you to do? Chad - Leave it alone. Trask - In other words he advised you not to go to the police, is that correct? Chad - Yes. Trask - How would you describe Ms. Brady's demeanour during the attack? Justin starts to object ... Trask - In your judgement, Mr. DiMera, since you witnessed it in person. We need to make sure the camera didn't lie. The judge instructs him to answer the question. Chad - She was angry. Trask - Just one more question, Mr. DiMera. Why did you take this video? Chad - I thought it was funny. Trask - Now that the man she attacked in the video is dead do you still think it's funny? Justin objects. Trask - Withdrawn. I have no more questions for this witness. Justin has no questions for this witness at this time. Sami asks why he didn't cross examine him. Justin - Because anything Chad says would only dig you in deeper.

Will and Sonny are waiting to be called. Sonny tells Will to take a deep breath. It's going to be okay. Will feels this is all his fault. If I hadn't slept with Gabi then she wouldn't have been pregnant, the wedding wouldn't have blown up, his Mom wouldn't have broken up with Rafe and Rafe wouldn't have had sex with Kate and then Stefano wouldn't have come after Rafe. Sonny thinks that he doesn't see that that chain of thought is a little egocentric. All the choices that your mother and Rafe and Stefano and Kate ... don't matter. Just that you slept with Gabi. Think about the choices we've made and where those choices have led us. We get to go bed together every night and we get to wake up and take care of that beautiful baby girl. For the record, if we could go back and I could stop you from sleeping with Gabi, I wouldn't because I would lose too much that I love if that hadn't happened. Sonny is called to the stand. Will fantasizes that he's holding his daughter's hand as he tells her Grandma Sami is going to be here any minute. Ari is 3 or 4. Will tells Sonny they really should come more often. Sonny replies that they come as often as they come. Will knows - It's not enough. Prisoner Sami is led into the room. Sami's face is all bruised. Will asks what happened. Sami talks to Ari and hugs her. Will wants to know about the bruises; what are they doing to you? Sami tells him that no matter what happens this is not his fault. Promise that you won't feel guilty ... Will - What do you mean, no matter what happens? Sami - I can't spend the rest of my life like this. I just can't. The guard tells her times up and starts leading her away as Will protests and Sami tells him she loves him. Sonny tells Ari it's going to be okay.

Nicole - Okay, that's a good thing because as soon as Kristen opens her lying, hypocritical mouth Eric will realise what a selfish, self-destructive bitch she is. Brady - Yeah, what could be more selfish and destructive then establishing a scholarship fund for kids. Nicole - Oh please, that's just protective covering. Writing a cheque is not giving back, it's buying goodwill. I am your friend. Brady - Are you? Nicole - Yes! I just don't want to see Kristen hurt you again. Let's switch gears here. Please think about what you're doing to Eric. What kind of brother would put his own brother, a priest, who does everything for everyone else, in an impossible position. I'm not going to let you do this. Brady - It's not your call. It's not your business. Back off.

Eric doesn't understand why she wants to spend less time together. He thought they were working quite well together. Kristen agrees but contrary to other people's opinions, I do consider other people's feelings. How do you think Marlena felt when she found out Brady and I were engaged again. I've been afraid to ask how she took the news of the two of us working together. Eric - We've had better conversations. Kristen - Exactly. So you marrying me and Brady would only cause more pain and upset. Frankly I'm stunned you didn't shut him down when he initially proposed it. Eric - It crossed my mind. Kristen - So do it now. Eric - No. If you want to stop it, it's your choice.


Segment 4: Sonny is sworn in. Trask asks if it's okay if she calls him Sonny. She doesn't want the jury to get confused between the witness and the counsel for the defence. Sure. Trask - Now you like Mr. DiMera are testifying today with immunity. Sonny - Yes. Trask - Good thing. Criminal obstruction can result in some pretty severe sentencing. Sonny - I did not seek immunity. It was arranged without my knowledge. Trask scoffs - An advantage of having strong ties to the legal community. Sonny - It was your office that did it Miss Trask and I don't have any ties to you. Trask - What is your relationship to Chad DiMera? Sonny - Business partner. Trask - Do you remember what your business partner said to you when he gave you the video? Sonny - That I should know what I'm getting into to. Trask - I don't understand. Why would he warn you like that? Sonny - Sami Brady is Will Horton's mother. Trask - And what is your relationship to Ms. Brady's son. Sonny - He's my partner. Trask - I thought you just said Chad DiMera's your partner. Sonny - Chad DiMera is my business partner, Will is my life partner, my lover. Trask - And what instructions did EJ DiMera give you specifically in terms of your partner Will Horton. Sonny - He didn't want me to tell Will about it. Trask - So you didn't. Sonny - No, I did. Trask - So because of the video you knew when Ms. Brady said she didn't know Det. Bernardi that she was lying. Justin objects. Trask - Withdrawn. The answer goes without saying. She has no further questions. Justin - I just want to ask you for your reason or reasons for not sharing the video. Trask - Objection, beyond the scope. Judge - You opened the door Ms. Trask. He tells Sonny he can answer the question. Sonny - Because I knew that there was no way that Will's Mom could murder someone. I don't care what's on that video. I knew she was telling the truth when she said she was protecting Det. Hernandez. Justin has no further questions. Trask - Redirect Your Honour. Judge - What a surprise. Trask - Sonny, are you saying that Ms. Brady has never lied to you or to her son. The judge tells him to answer. Sonny - No, I'm not saying that. Trask has no more questions. Trask calls Will next.

Cam and Abby are inside the pub now. Abby - We have to find a lawyer for him. My Uncle Justin is busy with Will's Mom's case. My brother was dealing drugs. If he gets the wrong judge he could go to prison for years. Cam - Was he using? Abby - I don't know. I used to know everything about my brother and now he's a complete stranger to me. Cam - Just now, did you talk to Chad about this? Abby - No. I didn't want to stress him out before court. Cam - It's too bad. You need someone to talk to. Abby - Yeah, I'm talking to you now and you're being really nice to me even after ... Cam - Listen, we're friends no matter what. Can I say something to you as friend. With all that you're going through maybe now isn't the best time to get serious about anyone. Chad hears this.

Kristen - Why are you being like this? You've never made a secret of how much you hate Brady and I being together. Eric - A guy came to me and he said not only does he want my help, he wants God's blessing to get his marriage off to a holy start. How am I supposed to say no? Kristen - I so hate arguing with good people. Eric - If you and Brady are meant to share a life together I will not be the one who stands in the way. I'm not talking just as a couple but perhaps as a family. Maybe it's God's will for you to blessed with children of your own some day. From the way I've seen you work with the children here, you would make a wonderful mother.

Nicole - Yes, this is my call 'cause who else is going to look out for Eric; not you. He's the most selfless, giving, caring man that I have ever met and if you want to destroy your life and marry that lunatic ... why do you think God created Vegas! Just don't do this to him. He does not need the stress. He's your brother and he is too good and too kind to say no to you. Brady - I've tried to get through to you, I really have. I've tried to ignore all the vile things you say about Kristen but I can't do it anymore. I'm sick of listening to you. I'm sick of hearing what you have to say to me. I'm tired of trying to be your friend. You think Kristen and I are insane; why don't you take a deep look into a mirror. You're crazy and obsessed over my brother. Why don't you learn to let him go. Nicole is close to tears. Go to hell. She walks away.


Segment 5: Eric - I think I have finally shut you up with God's help of course. Kristen - So, you really think I'd make a good mom. Eric - If God chooses to bless you with children, I do. Kristen - Okay, so, if Brady and I are going to do this Precana thing, what does it entail?

Brady recalls Nicole's plea to think about what he's doing to Eric. He calls Eric but gets voicemail so he leaves the square.

Eric - Pre-marriage counselling is tailored to the couple but the 3 of us would meet several times. I would ask how you see your lives together. Kristen - I bet I'll get a good grilling. Eric will ask Brady some tough questions too. Kristen guesses Brady would have to explain what his feelings for her are to him. Eric - That's how it works. Kristen - Let me think about it and thank you for making me see beyond my initial objection. It gives me a different perspective. Maybe it could be a good thing. I will be in touch. Thanks. Goodbye. Outside the rectory she leaves a message. It's me. I need to see you immediately.

Abby greets Chad. How did it go? Chad - It was just about what I expected it to be. Abby gets a call she has to take. She steps away. Cam is going to leave but Chad stops him. What the hell are you trying to pull here?

Will enters the courtroom.

Kristen is in the park talking to Dr. Chyka. I could up seeing a lot more of Eric with Brady in the room. The doctor knows what she's worried about but he assures her that it won't make any difference.

Eric looks at the hotel receipt again. Cue f/b of rape yet again. Why does this keep happening to me. Nicole comes in. Eric, you can not be thinking about marrying Brady and Kristen.


Segment 6: Kristen - I'm sure you know what I'm about to say. You better be right about this Chyka. Dr - I keep telling you that you have nothing to worry about. Kristen - Just go back to that rock I found you under, okay. Have a nice day. She pulls out the flashdrive. I get rid of this I get rid of my one chance of shattering Marlena's complacent little life. But if I get rid of this maybe I can give myself a chance at a decent, happy life with Brady. Precana counselling. She looks up - Maybe You do have a sense of humour.

Eric - You don't get to come in here and tell me about Brady's relationship with Kristen. It's none of your business. You don't get to tell me what and what not to do. Nicole - I'm just looking out for you. Eric - No you're not. You're just doing what is best for you. As usual you don't care about anyone but yourself. Now would you just leave me alone. She leaves.

Chad - I heard what you said to Abigail about not getting too serious with me. So what, you pull away from her but you make sure she's just friends with me until I'm out of the picture. Cam - You don't know what she's going through. Chad - Obviously something's wrong but you thought it would be a good idea to take advantage of that! Cam - Look, I'm sorry you're sick but you won't talk to me about your treatment and you haven't told Abigail anything. Do you really think this is the right time for her to get even closer to you under these circumstances. Think about that. He leaves. Abby returns. Is everything okay.

Trask - So Will, did your mother ask you to lie for her, to cover up that she knew and hated Det. Bernardi, that she had physically attacked him? Will - No. Trask - Mr. Horton, my I remind you that you're under oath. Will - Well, my Mom would not murder anyone. She was trying to protect Rafe. The judge tells him he needs to answer the question and refrain from offering your opinion. I'll let it go this time but if it happens again I'll have to find you in contempt. Trask - Will, did your mother ask you to lie? Will - Yes. Trask - Did she ask you to lie to the police? Will - Yes she did.


Segment 7: Trask - Thanks for being honest with us. I have no further questions. Justin has no questions at this time. Will tells Sonny - I don't want to hurt her but that's what I keep doing. If she goes to jail it will be my fault. Sonny hugs him. Sami - Why is she doing this? Justin - She's spending as much time as she can doing the character assignation to keep away from the evidence incriminating Bernardi. Kate Roberts is called. Sami - Great, this day has been a nightmare; now it's going to get worse.

Chad tells Abby is fine. Now I want you to tell me what happened. Why are you so upset. I want to help you any way I can. Abby thanks him. Cam watches as Chad strokes Abby's hair.

Brady asks Eric if he's heard anything about the trial. Eric's been calling his Dad but it keeps going straight to voicemail. Brady thinks he put Eric in a bad position. He didn't mean to get him involved in all this. Eric - Kristen and I talked. Maybe this counselling and marrying you thing is a good idea. Kristen is going to think about it. Brady - Wow. Eric - Yeah, who knew that Kristen would be the one to bring us closer together.

Kristen continues talking to herself. So maybe with just a little bit of counselling I could let go of the past. Nicole sees Kristen fingering the flashdrive. What the hell is that?
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Sep 10 2013, 08:41 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 08:39 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 08:37 AM

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Right. And at the moment, Eric is starting to suspect that Nicole, not Kristen, had something to do with the drugging and hotel room incident.
Which only makes me dislike him a little more.
Have they actually shown him thinking that it's Nicole?
No, but he's coming across as though he's suspicious of her and quite put out by her presence.
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Which only makes me dislike him a little more.
Have they actually shown him thinking that it's Nicole?
No, but he's coming across as though he's suspicious of her and quite put out by her presence.
Thanks.
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Sep 10 2013, 08:39 AM

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Which only makes me dislike him a little more.
Have they actually shown him thinking that it's Nicole?
No, but he's coming across as though he's suspicious of her and quite put out by her presence.
I think he's put out by her constantly telling him what to do.

I don't see him as suspicious of Nicole (although that may be coming) but rather every time he sees that hotel bill, it makes him remember his dream.
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It seems as though they're drawing some rather short dots between the hotel bill and his memory. Looks more and more likely that he'll think it was Nicole.
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Brady and eric are two brothers one is dumb and naive like brady and the other one is judgmental, rude,ignorant and stupid like eric whose treats nicole like a piece of garbage .I love brady but as nicole said I want both brothers go to hell .I'm sick of writers to treated our beloved character nicole as a weak helpless without standing on her feet to defend herself ,but sami ,danile and jennifer like a days true gold actors and they have to be on my screen everyday and every week. I'm so tired and please stop making fans upset. Give us the old nicole back and put ari front and center because she's more entertainer and enjoyable to watch.
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Sep 10 2013, 07:08 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 12:11 AM
Oh Eric, really?... To kristen: Maybe it's god's will that you have children some day.

Some day? SOME DAY?

Um, shouldn't she have done that before she entered her 50s? He sounds like he was talking to a young newlywed. ROFL!!!! :blulaugh:
Hey father eric did you ever think as you said kristen could be a good mother someday and when you find out she's pregnant with your child that you didn't know about it? I can't believe he was too friendly with kristen but when nicole wanted to talk to him he yelled at her. He was rude and i never liked him from beginning. He was judgmental and trying to change nicole. He was selfish and angry most of the time towards her. I missed Jensen the old eric brady. This one doesn't work for me. He has no chemistry with ari nd he's boring too. Writers I beg of you please free nicole from church and father eric. Give ari zucker something big instead of wasting her talent. I love nicole and I'm team nicole all the way.
There is no sexual tension between them and he doesn't seem to even enjoy being around her. And it's not because he's fighting an attraction to her either. If they want to play that up then they are failing miserably. I just wanted Nicole to walk out on him and never go back.
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I'm itching for her not to look back. it's time she quit and moved out.
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Sep 10 2013, 07:18 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 05:10 AM
I have to admit, the speed at which the general consensus on this site vacillates between "Days is firing on all cylinders right now!" and "Days sucks and should be put out of its misery!" gives me whiplash.
I actually think the show sucks like ALL THE TIME, I just tolerate for the likes of Nick and Nicole and wanting the show to do right by them.
I think it sucks pretty much all the time too. I only am hanging on until Marlena exposes Kristen. Then I'm pretty much done because J&M are no more and am not interested in watching Marlena play grandma to Sami's brood and having Fauxman sniffing around her.
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Sep 10 2013, 08:44 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 12:11 AM
Oh Eric, really?... To kristen: Maybe it's god's will that you have children some day.

Some day? SOME DAY?

Um, shouldn't she have done that before she entered her 50s? He sounds like he was talking to a young newlywed. ROFL!!!! :blulaugh:
Age never stopped God from giving children to women and Eric knows that. Well, he should since he's a priest.
Oh please, they are acting on this show like Kristen is in her 30s and was never Brady's almost step mother when he was six!
Edited by Rosebud, Sep 10 2013, 11:23 AM.
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Sep 10 2013, 11:17 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 07:18 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 05:10 AM
I have to admit, the speed at which the general consensus on this site vacillates between "Days is firing on all cylinders right now!" and "Days sucks and should be put out of its misery!" gives me whiplash.
I actually think the show sucks like ALL THE TIME, I just tolerate for the likes of Nick and Nicole and wanting the show to do right by them.
I think it sucks pretty much all the time too. I only am hanging on until Marlena exposes Kristen. Then I'm pretty much done because J&M are no more and am not interested in watching Marlena play grandma to Sami's brood and having Fauxman sniffing around her.
Your avi fascinates me. I'm curious about that girl is on about......
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Sep 10 2013, 11:20 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 11:17 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 07:18 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 05:10 AM
I have to admit, the speed at which the general consensus on this site vacillates between "Days is firing on all cylinders right now!" and "Days sucks and should be put out of its misery!" gives me whiplash.
I actually think the show sucks like ALL THE TIME, I just tolerate for the likes of Nick and Nicole and wanting the show to do right by them.
I think it sucks pretty much all the time too. I only am hanging on until Marlena exposes Kristen. Then I'm pretty much done because J&M are no more and am not interested in watching Marlena play grandma to Sami's brood and having Fauxman sniffing around her.
Your avi fascinates me. I'm curious about that girl is on about......
OH, that's Amy Poehler back on the old Conan O'Brien late night show on NBC. She did this character named Stacy that was Andy's "sister" and she was obsessed with Conan. She made a bunch of appearances and she always went into a rampage at the end.
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Sep 10 2013, 08:39 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 08:37 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 06:48 AM
This episode, taken up as it was by Sami's trial and Chad/Abigail/Cameron crap, did pretty much nothing for me. The worst bit, though, was Eric's treatment of Nicole. He's been almost scornful of her lately, while telling Kristen, the woman who tried to kill his mother and who RAPED him, what a ~*~fantastic~*~ mother she'd be.

Ugh, fuck that and fuck him right now. Sorry, Padre!
to be fair, Eric doesn't know that "rape" bit yet.
Right. And at the moment, Eric is starting to suspect that Nicole, not Kristen, had something to do with the drugging and hotel room incident.
That's a big stretch based on what we've actually seen on-screen, IMO. The predictions that Eric will eventually suspect that he slept with Nicole or that she raped him are probably true, but that doesn't change the fact that the show really hasn't done anything to show that Eric is currently suspicious of Nicole. Eric's memory is being triggered when he looks at things that remind him of the hotel -- not when he looks at Nicole's face or sees or hears her name. The fact that Nicole's name is on the receipt is completely incidental, and we wouldn't even necessarily know that if we weren't detail-oriented viewers who like to freeze the screen and inspect every aspect of things like hotel receipts, birth certificates, and subpoenas. It's like suddenly deciding that the show is obviously headed toward a reveal that Salem is in California based on the obvious mistakes on the subpoenas that the show has never made a point of showing us and that we were clearly not supposed to notice.

As it stands, there has not been a single on-screen indication that Eric believes that he actually slept with someone at that hotel or that he was raped at that hotel, let alone that Nicole is the woman in his recurring dream (that is now becoming a recurring memory) -- in fact, he just told Father Matt on Friday's episode that he didn't think that the two events were actually connected in any way, and he's a priest, so I'm going to assume that he wasn't lying to another priest/mentor figure -- so I can only take his behavior as what it is -- rude, inexcusable, unwarranted, and certainly not priestly.
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Sep 10 2013, 07:18 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 05:10 AM
I have to admit, the speed at which the general consensus on this site vacillates between "Days is firing on all cylinders right now!" and "Days sucks and should be put out of its misery!" gives me whiplash.
I actually think the show sucks like ALL THE TIME, I just tolerate for the likes of Nick and Nicole and wanting the show to do right by them.
We'll just have to agree to disagree about that (especially the part about Nick / Blake Berris, who is one of the worst parts of the show for me). I basically like the show all of the time, even when certain storylines are being played out that I don't care for (or even hate).
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Sep 10 2013, 03:05 PM
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Sep 10 2013, 08:39 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 08:37 AM
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Sep 10 2013, 06:48 AM
This episode, taken up as it was by Sami's trial and Chad/Abigail/Cameron crap, did pretty much nothing for me. The worst bit, though, was Eric's treatment of Nicole. He's been almost scornful of her lately, while telling Kristen, the woman who tried to kill his mother and who RAPED him, what a ~*~fantastic~*~ mother she'd be.

Ugh, fuck that and fuck him right now. Sorry, Padre!
to be fair, Eric doesn't know that "rape" bit yet.
Right. And at the moment, Eric is starting to suspect that Nicole, not Kristen, had something to do with the drugging and hotel room incident.
That's a big stretch based on what we've actually seen on-screen, IMO. The predictions that Eric will eventually suspect that he slept with Nicole or that she raped him are probably true, but that doesn't change the fact that the show really hasn't done anything to show that Eric is currently suspicious of Nicole. Eric's memory is being triggered when he looks at things that remind him of the hotel -- not when he looks at Nicole's face or sees or hears her name. The fact that Nicole's name is on the receipt is completely incidental, and we wouldn't even necessarily know that if we weren't detail-oriented viewers who like to freeze the screen and inspect every aspect of things like hotel receipts, birth certificates, and subpoenas. It's like suddenly deciding that the show is obviously headed toward a reveal that Salem is in California based on the obvious mistakes on the subpoenas that the show has never made a point of showing us and that we were clearly not supposed to notice.

As it stands, there has not been a single on-screen indication that Eric believes that he actually slept with someone at that hotel or that he was raped at that hotel, let alone that Nicole is the woman in his recurring dream (that is now becoming a recurring memory) -- in fact, he just told Father Matt on Friday's episode that he didn't think that the two events were actually connected in any way, and he's a priest, so I'm going to assume that he wasn't lying to another priest/mentor figure -- so I can only take his behavior as what it is -- rude, inexcusable, unwarranted, and certainly not priestly.
:shrug: IMO, he is starting to draw some connection between the hotel incident and Nicole. I don't think he can articulate that yet, but based on his reactions to her and his flashbacks, I'd say she's making him uncomfortable even if he doesn't know quite why.

As to his behavior toward her, it hasn't been great lately and frankly I'm glad. Eric may be a priest, but he's also human and imperfect. It's nice to see him show that for a change.
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Sep 10 2013, 05:37 AM
Will and Sonny are the most solid couple on the show. That I am not disagreeing with that. The problem for me is the lack of passion I feel toward their connection together on screen. I love Chandler and Freddie. But together I'm just not feeling passion that I should between a couple. Sure the writing doesn't help. Yesterday, I will admit was one of the better episodes together in a long time. I really enjoyed their last scene together.

This show needs to do something. I actually watched the full episode yesterday. While it wasn't as bad as I thought, stories are not moving. It's still all talking and no action. I keep comparing it to GH but that is because I watch both shows and GH has so many stories that keep on moving and it's not just people standing around and talking. Kristen and Brady's story hasn't move in months. If I would have stopped watching a few months ago and just started watching again, it would be like not missing an episode :lol:.
It's always odd for me to hear people negatively compare Days to GH, because I absolutely cannot stand the latter show. I hate or am completely apathetic about nearly every single character, and most of the actors annoy me for various reasons, too. Different strokes. :shrug:

As for Will and Sonny, chemistry is certainly in the eye of the beholder. I'm not seeing this supposed lack of passion (I mean, I am seeing an annoying lack of passionate lovemaking scenes, but that's a problem with the writers, not the actors, who can only do so much with a quick kiss on the cheek in the middle of a courthouse hallway), but if you are, fair enough. I can certainly understand the general sentiment, even if I don't agree with where you're directing it -- Sami and E.J. can argue with and screw each other until their faces are blue and I will never feel anything that's even remotely passionate or electric from them.
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Well, I thought Eric addressed the reason Nicole's name was on the hotel bill, since he mentioned something about the hotel being on her credit card/paying her back/providing a receipt. It seems logical that she would handle his travel arrangements as his secretary. I don't recall on which day this happened.

We know that he's being cold to her and that he seems quite uncomfortable when she's around. More so than, say, Kristen. Either GV has no control over his emoting or this is a deliberate choice. If it's deliberate, then it seems to be directed at Nicole. (Personally, I'd like her to walk away before she gets dragged down in the muck, but we know that won't happen.) So something about her is making him uncomfortable and we just don't know what it is yet -- that he has connected his memory to the hotel drugging and thinks it might have been Nicole in bed with him, that he thinks he's having dreams about Nicole and he feels guilty about it, that he's questioning his vocation based on what he thinks he might have done, that his collar's too tight, that the prop people are putting something sharp on his chair, etc., etc.

I dunno, I'm generally disappointed by the Kristen turn in things and by the possibility that Nicole will become the pariah again when she's done nothing wrong. Ericole could have been fantastically angsty on their own without what's happening now.
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Sep 10 2013, 04:13 AM
Brady told Nicole, "Don't think that [the fact that Kristen once tried to kill Eric's mother] hasn't slipped my mind." So it has slipped his mind? Double negatives are rough, aren't they, writers/Eric Martsolf?
I heard that, too! :blulaugh: :blulaugh: :blulaugh:
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