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Wednesday, Sept 18th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Sep 18 2013, 12:31 AM (12,453 Views)
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Yoryla
Sep 19 2013, 03:47 AM
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Sep 18 2013, 04:35 PM
Yoryla
Sep 18 2013, 02:14 PM
OMG, LOVED The Stefano vs. EJ scenes!!!

He really TRULY made him beg on the floor on his knees! I knew it!!! Have been waiting for this day ever since EJ smugly threw Stefano out of his house!!! And I just simply LOVE the fact that he will now force EJ, Sami and the kids to live at the house and be raised to be TRUE DiMeras without them having any say in it! Bwahaa! I also love it for the wonderful, practical reason of having and seeing EJ, Kristen, Sami and Stefano all under the same roof!

LONG LIVE STEFANO!!!
Sorry to be dismal.
But you all know this is all just going to lead to Sami taking down Stefano.
Bwahaa!

If John, Roman, Bo, Marlena, Hope, Abe, or EJ have not managed to take down Stefano, Sami sure as the heck ain't gonna be doing that.
Yes, especially watching her now sitting in that courtroom crying and asking where is Elvis... Pathetic.
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I am READY!!

Rosebud
Sep 19 2013, 07:29 AM
Yoryla
Sep 19 2013, 03:47 AM
concerned
Sep 18 2013, 04:35 PM
Yoryla
Sep 18 2013, 02:14 PM
OMG, LOVED The Stefano vs. EJ scenes!!!

He really TRULY made him beg on the floor on his knees! I knew it!!! Have been waiting for this day ever since EJ smugly threw Stefano out of his house!!! And I just simply LOVE the fact that he will now force EJ, Sami and the kids to live at the house and be raised to be TRUE DiMeras without them having any say in it! Bwahaa! I also love it for the wonderful, practical reason of having and seeing EJ, Kristen, Sami and Stefano all under the same roof!

LONG LIVE STEFANO!!!
Sorry to be dismal.
But you all know this is all just going to lead to Sami taking down Stefano.
Bwahaa!

If John, Roman, Bo, Marlena, Hope, Abe, or EJ have not managed to take down Stefano, Sami sure as the heck ain't gonna be doing that.
Yes, especially watching her now sitting in that courtroom crying and asking where is Elvis... Pathetic.
I disagree. Trask had just all but sent Sami to prison by revealing that the money in Timmy's account was planted. Then, she puts Sami's dad on the stand. That's twisting the knife. -_- She wanted EJ there to help her get through it, like he has been next to her this whole trial.
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http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/

Director: Steven Williford
Scriptwriter: Melissa Salmons


Segment 1: Repeat of EJ realising Stefano has the razor blade and Stefano telling him he doesn't have to do anything.

Replay of Cam overhearing Abby and Gabi talking.

Repeat of Chad's flashback where the doctor tells him he's in perfect health. Chad finds a treatment on line - This looks good. In fact, it's perfect.

Kate walks up to Jordan near the nurse's station and asks how are we doing today. Jordan is fine. Kate was asking about Rafe. She understands he's been moved to another room. Jordan - Yes he was. Kate - You were told that you could update me on Rafe's progress. Jordan - Yes I was. Mr. Hernandez's progress is slow but that's to be expected considering his injuries. His motor skills get a little better every day. It's going to be a long process. Kate - How long? Jordan - It's hard to say at this point. We'll have to build up his strength and then we'll be better able to evaluate and come up with a time line. Kate - Thank you. That wasn't so hard now, was it? Jordan - Excuse me? Kate - You don't like me very much, do you?

Rafe asks Abe when the defence starts. Abe doesn't know. Trask is going to bury Sami in police officer testimony first. Rafe - Is that working? Abe - I'm afraid so. As the facts stand, Sami shot a man in the back and he died. There's no disputing that. Rafe - He was going to attack me. Abe - That's what she says but with no physical proof Sami's hanging out there with nothing but her word to back her up.

Sami watches as her father walks to the stand. Poor Dad. Justin - Can he hurt you? Sami - He doesn't want to. Justin - That's not my question. Roman is sworn in. Sami - Where could EJ be!

EJ - This is for your grandchildren. No matter how you might feel about Samantha or myself you don't want to hurt them. Stefano points to the portrait. And this is the image the children are going to have of their mother, uh. Not very flattering. EJ - You understand that's who you're hurting, right; the children. Stefano - That's your only concern huh. How stupid do you think I am. EJ - Yes I love her. I can't imagine spending one day without her let alone the rest of my life. If this is your payback you will destroy Samantha and the grandchildren along with me. Do you really hate her that much; you hate me that much. Stefano - You think this is just about hate, huh? EJ - Then what is it you want? Do you want the house, the company? Take them, they're yours. I'm serious. I was about to walk out of here before you showed up. We were leaving. You could have the whole thing to yourself. Stefano - And you're going to live on love huh? Oh you are so charming. EJ snaps - I will give you anything that you want. EJ knocks over the chess table. No games! No time! Samantha's life is on the line and you can save her. Now you tell me what it costs. You name your price. Stefano - Or what?

Cam eavesdrops as Gabi asks Abby if it was everything she thought it would be. Abby - I don't know how to answer that. I guess I didn't put that much thinking into it beforehand but it was great. And if you have all these incredible expectations aren't you bound to be disappointed? Gabi - I guess. Abby - But it definitely took me by surprise. Cam leaves. Abby continues - Totally my choice. Chad was sweet and romantic and it was great. It was everything I'd ever wanted.

Chad is reading up about the treatment. It sounds like a freakin' smoothie. There's no way anyone can tell if I was ever on it. Cameron or Kayla would never know I wasn't in treatment. That's sweet. Cue flashback of having sex with Abby. All in a good cause. Cameron was never right for her anyway. He gets a call from the club. What do you mean the dishwasher's broken. We've only been open a month.

Trask asks Roman why he is currently on leave from the Salem P.D. Roman - My daughter was accused of murdering a police officer. It would be a conflict of interest for me to be supervising the investigation. Trask - Commissioner, I need to ask you about some of your daughter's untruths in the past. Justin - Objection, Your Honour. All that's relevant here are the facts of the case. Trask - Your Honour, in his opening statement the defence put Miss Brady's honesty at the center of this trial. This witness can offer a great deal of testimony about Miss Brady's relationship to the truth. Judge - You opened the door. Proceed counsel.

Stefano - What are you going to do to me Elvis? Threaten me? Beat me up? EJ - You tell me what it is you want. Stefano - You don't know? I taught you better than that. This woman has turned you into mush. Polenta for brains. EJ - You're 5 moves ahead. EJ recalls Stefano saying - The day will come when you're on your hands and knees before me begging me to take back what you have stolen. EJ - You knew. Even when you walked out that door this whole thing was in motion. Stefano - Ah, you have caught up. EJ - Okay, fine, yes, your idiot son has caught up. Just take it all back. Just take it back. I want Samantha, that's all that matters to me. Stefano - Not to me.


Segment 2: Chad is giving instructions on what to do regarding the dishwasher when there's a knock on his door. It's Cameron. Cam sees the unmade bed. You S.O.B. How could you!

Jordan - Why would you say that? Kate - I understand. I know that I can be intimidating to people but that's not my intention, I assure you. Jordan - Miss Roberts, I don't like or dislike you. I have no feeling about you whatsoever. Kate - How can you have no feelings about the people that you meet? Jordan - I didn't say that. I care about my patients and their progress. Kate - Well I guess that's all that matters then. Jordan - It is. Everything and everyone else is irrelevant to me. For the record, I don't find you intimidating in the least. She walks away.

Rafe - Lying in this bed I've gone over every minute I've ever spent with Joe Bernardi. Now if he was dirty, there's a trail. Abe - We've looked at everything and everyone in his family. Rafe - Then we're missing something. Abe - Get better; get out of that bed! Rafe lifts his hand - 30% better than I did in the courtroom so ... Abe - We're rooting for you. You take what time you need. Rafe - Don't worry. I've got this physical therapist, she's like a drill sergeant. She's either trying to kill me or get me back on my feet. Kate comes into the room. Hey, are you talking about me. Abe better take off. Kate - How's the trial going? Abe - Not well as you know. Kate - Abe! Abe - I know you never liked Sami but you didn't have to hand the prosecutor more ammunition. Take care Rafe. He leaves. Rafe - What did you say at Sami's trial?

Trask - Is this the first time your daughter's been involved in legal proceedings? Roman - No. She was railroaded once before. She was innocent. Trask - Yes or no. Roman continues so Trask calls on the Judge to stop him. Judge - Commissioner, you know the drill. Please answer the questions as asked. Roman - Yes Your Honour. Trask - Let's focus on the defendant's previous sworn testimony in court. Commissioner, is it true that your daughter lied under oath?

EJ - Father, everything is on the table. That's all I have. Please, Father, all I can think about is Samantha in that courtroom alone, about to be locked up for the rest of her life. She's wondering where I am. I can feel her swallowing her panic. She's counting on me to get her out and I will. Father, please just take it. Take it all back please. Just ... Father... he gets on his knees. I beg you Father, take back what I have stolen from you. Stefano - You think this is only about things, the money, the house. EJ - I don't have anything else to give. Stefano - You break my heart again. Alright fine, you're preoccupied but you now listen to me. If somehow Samantha gets out of this mess one way or the other you are going to live here in this house as my son. You are going to work with me side by side. You and your entire family are going to live in this house ... MY HOUSE until I want it otherwise. EJ - Yes. Yes. Stefano - You want to give me your word as a DiMera. EJ - You have my word as a DiMera. Stefano extends his hand. EJ crawls over and kisses it. Stefano - Now get up off the floor my son. EJ stands up. Samantha's trial is still in session. There's not much time. We have to act now. Stefano acknowledges this in Italian. But you do have some phone calls to make and you have some papers to sign first, yes? EJ nods yes.


Segment 3: Gabi - I've got to ask; I'd be a bad friend if I didn't. Do you think that the stuff that's happening with your family is the reason why you kind of rushed into things with Chad? Abby - Maybe but that doesn't make it feel wrong. What's happening with my family has put me in the moment; made me not want to waste time. And in that moment I felt like it was right with Chad. Of course it wasn't what I expected. Gabi - You mean how he was with you. Abby - No. Up until a while ago I thought my first time would be with Cameron.

Chad - I guess good news travels fast. Cam - I can't believe you would go this far. Chad - It's none of your business. Cam - I care about Abigail and I thought you did too. Chad - That's kind of the point and it's mutual. That's why it happened. I hope you can accept ... Cam - I can not accept you lying to her. You're setting her up; you're setting yourself up. Chad - How do you figure that? Cam - What you're going through, it affects people differently. Now I'm sure it feels good to be with Abigail ... Chad realises his laptop is open to the page about treatments. He rubs his temple. Cam - What's wrong? Chad - It's nothing. The doctor said this would happen. Cam - Just sit down and put pressure on it okay. Chad tells Cam there's water in the fridge and asks him to get him some. Chad closes his laptop.

Roman - To my knowledge, Sami has never lied in criminal court. Trask - What about family court, Commissioner? Did your daughter lie under oath in Family Court? Roman - Sami had concerns with the father's ... Trask - Yes or no. Roman - Yes but what I'm saying ... Trask - Permission to treat the witness as hostile. Judge - Granted. Justin - Your Honour, this is far afield. Judge - I agree. Counsel, wrap this up. Trask - Thank you Your Honour. Commissioner, did your daughter lie under oath in Family Court. Roman - To protect her son from a drunk, yes she did. Trask - The defendant concocted an elaborate and completely false story about Lucas Horton abusing her son, did she not? Roman - Again, to protect her son from a drunk, yes she did. Trask - In fact she lied to Mr. Horton for years about the paternity of their child, passing him off as Austin Reed's son. Justin - Objection, Your Honour. Relevance? Judge - Sustained. Strike the question from the record. Sami - The jury still heard it.

Stefano lights a cigar as EJ is signing papers. You have spoken to Shinn in Hong Kong and Benedict in London. EJ - They were surprised and concerned. They liked the changes I'd made to the operation. Stefano - I'm sure you can make them very happy for me. Did you tell them there's a need for discretion. EJ - Nobody wants to see the share prices fall. They won't say anything until you make the announcement. Stefano - I'm sure between the two of us we can come up with what we need. EJ - Yes Father. He hands him the papers. Stefano - Samantha's trial has started again. Maybe you better go. EJ starts to leave. Stefano - Better take it easy you know because I am going to have dinner with the children. Who knows, pretty soon our whole family will be together again, yes? EJ - Yes Father. Stefano - It's for the best Elvis. Take my word for it. EJ leaves. Stefano smiles and laughs. To one big happy family ... MY FAMILY ... Salut!


Segment 4: Cam hands Chad the bottled water. It's cold so don't drink fast. Chad - Wouldn't want to get a brain freeze now, would we. He laughs. Look man, I'm sorry. I wish neither one of us had to lose in this situation. Cam - I don't care about losing. Abigail's family is melting down around her. She is vulnerable. Chad - And what? I zoomed in for the kill. Cam - Did you? Chad - I don't owe you any explanation but no. That's not what happened. We were together because that's what she wanted. Cam - Okay. Chad - Yeah it is. Cam - Then whatever else is going on with your head you must feel pretty good. Chad - Yeah I do. Abigail gives me a reason to live.

Abby - I shouldn't have said that. Gabi - Why not? I totally get it. Abby - It's not like I'm disappointed it wasn't Cameron it's just that up until awhile ago I thought that it would be with Cameron. That was just me; that's not where his head was at at all. Everything after that shifted and OMG ... my Mom is going to freak out. Gabi - No. Why would she find out? Let me explain something to you. We do not talk to our mother's about our sex lives. That just doesn't happen. Abby - Not my mom, she's different. Gabi - Okay. Maybe Jennifer won't go out of her way and pray to the rosary and light every single candle in her house and pray for your soul. Abby - She didn't. Gabi - I get it. Having the baby kind of blew things out of the water. Abby - My mom's not like that. She already thought that I had ... I did lose it to a DiMera though. Maybe it is something I'll keep to myself. They laugh.

Kate - I wasn't thinking. Rafe - Oh your weren't thinking so it just slipped out that you remembered that Sami had threatened someone else with a gun before. Kate - No, that isn't even how it happened. I was asked a question and the judge said I had to answer so I said yes and the prosecutor said who and when. I'm sure that Justin is going to be able to discredit Nick Fallon who is a convicted felon who has done terrible things. I wasn't trying to hurt Sami. Rafe - For once. Kate - Yeah. For once. I'm grateful. I don't even want to think what might have happened if she hadn't been here. Rafe - If she goes to prison for saving my life ... Kate - I know but you can't blame yourself. It's not your fault. There's nothing that you could have done. Jordan comes in. Kate - I'm sorry, can we have a minute. We're in the middle of something. Jordan - Sorry this can't wait. Kate - Two minutes? Jordan - You can have 15 mins. but not until the patient completes 45 mins. of exercises. Kate - Fine, I'm going to get some coffee. Can I get you anything? Rafe - Thanks. Kate - Kate offers to bring Jordan a coffee drink as well. Jordan - No thanks. Kate - No foam, what a surprise. She leaves. Rafe laughs - Sorry, she's ... alright ... what do you say we go down to the physical therapy room today. Jordan - You're not ready. Rafe - I could try. Jordan - If you try before you're ready you'll set yourself back. We wait until you master what you can do here and then we'll go. Rafe - It's the same thing over and over. Jordan - I'll rotate some different exercises in as soon as you're ready. Let's give your upper body a rest for now. We need to strengthen your balance. She works on his leg. Do you feel that? Rafe - Oh yeah. Jordan - That little tendon determines whether or not you can stand up straight. We get that working you can stand up. Rafe - Let me guess, more rubber bands. Jordan gives him instructions and he follows.

Trask - How many times in the past have you been called to a crime scene only to find Miss Brady at the center ... Justin - Objection! Trask - I'll withdraw. Commissioner, when you arrived at the hospital did you see your daughter right away? Roman - No I didn't. I got reports from the officers who secured the crime scene. The first time I saw Sami was when we heard Joe Bernardi was dead. Trask - And when you told the defendant about Joe Bernardi's death you asked the defendant how she knew Joe, didn't you? Roman - Yes. Trask - And what was your daughter's answer. Roman - She said she didn't know him. Trask - She had no hesitation about lying to you or Joe Bernardi's wife about knowing the victim. Roman - I can't tell you what was on Sami's mind. Trask - That has been the challenge of your life. When Justine stands up she says Withdrawn. You were Joe Bernardi's supervisor for 12 yrs? Roman - Yes I was. Trask - And in all that time did you ever have reason to suspect that he was anything other then an honest, good cop. Roman - No, I did not. Trask - Nothing further. Justin - One moment Your Honour. EJ comes in. Sami - I'm so glad you're here. I hope you brought a shovel because they're burying me alive. EJ - I'm sure it will be fine. Sami - It's okay EJ. I understand that you can't stop it.

Stefano sits by the chess table and makes a call. Yes, it's me. The matter we spoke about, it's time. Make the move. He picks up a chess piece and chuckles - Checkmate!


Segment 5: Gabi - I don't care what Chad's last name is as long as you're happy. Abby - I'm really, really happy. Gabi - Good. I've got to catch Rafe. Abby - I'm so glad I ran into you. Gabi - Me too. They hug. I just don't know how you're going to go home and not want to scream, I had sex. Abby - Exactly, just what my mom so does not need right now. This was much better. They part ways.

Cam - You live for yourself. Chad - Some days. When it's tough it makes it easier when Abigail is there. Cam - So she's fulfilling a purpose then. Chad - That's not it. You're twisting things. Abigail was my friend first and I don't have too many of those. I've finally figured out how to take care of them ... I wouldn't do anything to hurt her. I wouldn't use her to take care of me. Cam - Alright. Chad - I don't know what makes you think ... How did you know about us? Did Abigail say something to you? Cam - That doesn't matter. I'm done talking about it. You're right, it's none of my business so do what your doctor says and get better. You owe that much to Abigail now. Chad - You love her, don't you?

Gabi comes into Rafe's room just as Jordan is giving him a sip of ice water. What's up? Jordan - Physical therapy. He's got a 5 min. break but that's it.

The judge excuses Roman from the stand. Sami cries. She tells Roman she loves him. Justin asks EJ - Where have you been? EJ - I had some business to take care of, that's all. Abe comes in. Melinda, we have a new development. Trask - What? Abe - This is a bombshell so you're going to have to pay attention. Sami looks at EJ's expression as Abe fills Trask in on the new development.


Segment 6: Cam - Abigail is my friend. I care about you both so think about this Chad. How much do you want to put on her? How much do you want to stress yourself? This treatment can not be easy. Are you going to tell Abigail. Chad - Hell no. Cam - And why not? Chad - Because she's got enough to worry about, that's why. Cam - Listen to me Chad, this illness is something over which you have no control. He leaves. Chad mutters - That's where you're wrong, I'm in complete control.

Gabi reclines next to Rafe with her phone out. You're going to have to ooh and ahh fast so what's happening is I'm doing fine in school. I'm sorry I couldn't bring Ari but I will bring her next time. I have so much to do today. Everyone's fine. Will and Sonny are great except sometimes they crowd me but Sonny's busy with the club and Will is just worried about his mom. She looks at Jordan - How's the time? Jordan - 1 min. to spare. Gabi - Seriously! Can't we have 5 real mins. Jordan - Not now. Gabi - Okay. How's he doing? I bet he's your star patient. Jordan - He's progressing. I'm sorry, we need the room now. Rafe looks at Gabi with arched eyebrows - Resistance is futile. Gabi kisses his brow - I get that. See ya. Rafe - Bye sis. Jordan starts on the exercises again.

Abe - Just give me a little bit of time ... Trask - How many more smokescreens are you going to let the DiMera's throw up. Abe - Listen, this is credible evidence they could not manufacture. Trask - Fine, just tell me what it is. Sami - What's going on? Justin - I don't know. It's making Melinda very upset. Abe was her next witness. Judge - Miss Trask, would you and Commissioner Carver like to share with the court. Are you ready to proceed? Trask - Apologies Your Honour. As you know Commissioner Carver was supposed to be my next witness but an urgent, time sensitive matter has come up and he won't be able to testify for the next few hours. We would like to request a recess until he can rejoin us. Judge - Any objections. Justin - None, Your Honour.

Kate is strolling through the square with two cups of takeout coffee. Stefano - It's a beautiful day today, isn't it Katerina.


Segment 7: Cam gets off the elevator and runs into Abby. Abby - How's it going? Cam - Good. Abby - Well good. That's not why I came ... to see you ... I'm here to drop off these files for my mom but ... Cam - It's good to see you too. Abby - Yeah, bye.

Jordan says good. Rafe - Yeah? Jordan - I know that it probably doesn't feel like it but you're making real progress. Rafe - Thanks. Jordan - It's a fact, not a compliment. Rafe chuckles - I know. I was just thanking you for helping me. Jordan - It's my job. Rafe - Yeah. I wonder where Kate is? I could use some caffeine. Jordan - My guess is Miss Robert's is berating some barista because the foam on your latte isn't fun enough. Rafe - OMG! Jordan - What? What is it?

Kate - What's so beautiful about it? Stefano - Oh my goodness, look around. Kate - Ah yes and Rafe is in the hospital struggling to walk again; the mother of your grandchildren is on trial fighting for her life; all is just right in your world, isn't it? Stefano - I often wonder Katerina ... I wonder if you ever truly knew me. He walks away.

Abe is on his cell. No slip-ups this time. No, no, clear the lab's schedule. I want forensics to run everything on this case and run it twice. Get me the results immediately. We have about 4 hrs. before this trial goes on. Get on it! Roman walks up. Why the recess? Abe, talk to me. Is this something that is going to help Sami? Abe just pats him on the shoulder and walks away.

Sami sees Justin and EJ arrive at her cell. Justin, what is it? Justin - The prosecution won't say. Sami - Trask seemed ticked off. Justin - She's not happy. Sami - This could be good, right? EJ - Right, it could be. Justin - EJ, why do you say that? EJ - It's about time you got a break. Justin - Well this time let's hope this break doesn't cost us anything.
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Bwahaa!

If John, Roman, Bo, Marlena, Hope, Abe, or EJ have not managed to take down Stefano, Sami sure as the heck ain't gonna be doing that.
Yes, especially watching her now sitting in that courtroom crying and asking where is Elvis... Pathetic.
I disagree. Trask had just all but sent Sami to prison by revealing that the money in Timmy's account was planted. Then, she puts Sami's dad on the stand. That's twisting the knife. -_- She wanted EJ there to help her get through it, like he has been next to her this whole trial.
If I remember correctly, she asked for him before any of that happened.
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You are so right! When he told Stefano that it was his doing that John was framed for embezzlement, they were delighted with each other and having a grand old time together. Elvis is such a hypocrite.
There was a time I thought they were purposely writing Elvis into a corner, now I think they are taking the ONE thing he still had left which was his potential as a villain and totally destroying that. He's now no different than Lucas or Rafe. I seriously don't understand this....EJ works best when he's an asshole....but being up against Stefano won't work here.....as many are rooting for Stefano in this thing.....so what is left? I seriously wouldn't be surprised if at the end of this entire story arch they introduce a new villain character or family. The future of the Dimeras looks really bleak now.
Stefano was a thing of beauty today. Maybe he should be the last standing and then if they hire some good writers they can bring on a new villain when JM decides to retire, or bring back an old one like Orpheus. Elvis has never been a good villain and he never will be, and today pretty much solidified that fact.
Stef says he loves his family but he treats them like crap accept Kristen who is not really his blood. What he did to EJ today was really sad I felt for him which I usually don't so JS played it beautifully. When he thought EJ wasn't his son he stripped him of everything but he still wants Kristen around, why does he treat EJ so bad but Kristen he treats her like he should a daughter. EJ got the company once I think he can do it again. I really hope the evidence against Will goes away this card has been played too much by so many I'm surprised more people haven't figured it out yet. EJ and Sami especially Sami is not going to take this lying down. Sami is going to do something. And I don't see Will and Sonny living at the mansion for one Sonny won't have it and can you see Justin, Victor and Adrienne they would go off.

EJ will find a way to get back on top its a matter of time. I just didn't like the way Stef treated him, he seems to treat EJ badly though for some reason.
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Yes, especially watching her now sitting in that courtroom crying and asking where is Elvis... Pathetic.
I disagree. Trask had just all but sent Sami to prison by revealing that the money in Timmy's account was planted. Then, she puts Sami's dad on the stand. That's twisting the knife. -_- She wanted EJ there to help her get through it, like he has been next to her this whole trial.
If I remember correctly, she asked for him before any of that happened.
I don't understand why you think she's pathetic for crying and wanting EJ, the only person close to her who is actually allowed to be there with her. I had to testify once and I burst out in tears at the FIRST question from the opposing attorney, so I can see where Sami's coming from.
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The showdown between EJ & Stefano was actually really good, despite my concerns.

I thought JS played it pretty well, and although he may have been OTT at times, given the context of the scenes, I was okay with it. Even his crying was pretty good this go around.

JM reminded me of the old Stefano. Good to see Nono was no where around.

Sami actually cried pretty good today too. Hardly any scrunchy to be seen.

So Chad's a cad?? Who cares. Cameron is like a sleeping pill. I'll take schemer any day.

Rafe being the resident bump on a log fits what his character has always been. Now his body is in line with his personality.

All in all, good show today!!
Both JS and JM Stefeno played those scenes very well.
JS should submit those scenes for an Emmy.
Why not JM submitting those scenes for an emmy, he was way better than JS in those scenes. I have seen JS do better. I dont think he should submit these if he wants a chance at winning. I havent seen him do anything that is emmy worthy for a while now.

For me, a lot of EJ's scenes have been cringe worthy and this one was no exception. I felt embarrassed for him. If Tptb aim is to destroy his character, they are doing an excellent job. How can this weak, and not so intelligent person take over from the phoenix.
Loved Stefano's part. He really needed to be put junior in his place, but they could have at least let him give in to Stefano's demand without completely demeaning himself.
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Finally....the Stefano we love has returned! Kick ass episode!
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OMG, LOVED The Stefano vs. EJ scenes!!!

He really TRULY made him beg on the floor on his knees! I knew it!!! Have been waiting for this day ever since EJ smugly threw Stefano out of his house!!! And I just simply LOVE the fact that he will now force EJ, Sami and the kids to live at the house and be raised to be TRUE DiMeras without them having any say in it! Bwahaa! I also love it for the wonderful, practical reason of having and seeing EJ, Kristen, Sami and Stefano all under the same roof!

LONG LIVE STEFANO!!!
Sorry to be dismal.
But you all know this is all just going to lead to Sami taking down Stefano.
Bwahaa!

If John, Roman, Bo, Marlena, Hope, Abe, or EJ have not managed to take down Stefano, Sami sure as the heck ain't gonna be doing that.
Yes, especially watching her now sitting in that courtroom crying and asking where is Elvis... Pathetic.


Sami is facing livetime in prison and there didnīt look like there were any hope, so I think it would have been strange if she hadnīt cried.

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There was a time I thought they were purposely writing Elvis into a corner, now I think they are taking the ONE thing he still had left which was his potential as a villain and totally destroying that. He's now no different than Lucas or Rafe. I seriously don't understand this....EJ works best when he's an asshole....but being up against Stefano won't work here.....as many are rooting for Stefano in this thing.....so what is left? I seriously wouldn't be surprised if at the end of this entire story arch they introduce a new villain character or family. The future of the Dimeras looks really bleak now.
Stefano was a thing of beauty today. Maybe he should be the last standing and then if they hire some good writers they can bring on a new villain when JM decides to retire, or bring back an old one like Orpheus. Elvis has never been a good villain and he never will be, and today pretty much solidified that fact.
Stef says he loves his family but he treats them like crap accept Kristen who is not really his blood. What he did to EJ today was really sad I felt for him which I usually don't so JS played it beautifully. When he thought EJ wasn't his son he stripped him of everything but he still wants Kristen around, why does he treat EJ so bad but Kristen he treats her like he should a daughter. EJ got the company once I think he can do it again. I really hope the evidence against Will goes away this card has been played too much by so many I'm surprised more people haven't figured it out yet. EJ and Sami especially Sami is not going to take this lying down. Sami is going to do something. And I don't see Will and Sonny living at the mansion for one Sonny won't have it and can you see Justin, Victor and Adrienne they would go off.

EJ will find a way to get back on top its a matter of time. I just didn't like the way Stef treated him, he seems to treat EJ badly though for some reason.


I think Stefano loves EJ in his own way, and therefore was so disappointed and hurt thinking he wasnīt his son and that is why he pushed him away before. As for how Stefano treated EJ on wednesday I thought it made sense, he isnīt a man that takes betrayal lightly so it would have been strange if he had just taking the companies back without punshing him. I also think it is still possible for EJ to take over from Stefano and become a good villain if the writers would choose to go there, by having Stefano teach EJ on how to beat him at his own game. While part of me wants Ejami the other part doesnīt want the Dimera family to vanish once Stefano is gone, and as a EJ fan I want him to take over rather than a Chad recast or some other bastard Child of Stefano. So therefore I have doubts about whether Ejami can survive long term or if a woman more accepting of EJīs dark side would be better suited for him.
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the stupid thing about this whole EJ/ Stefano is that it could have been prevented. Bo, John Steve, Roman, Abe... they had a reason to bring down Stefano, he was torturing their families. what was EJs reason, that he was mad at his daddy and wanted to revenge him. that is so stupid he and Sami were living there like nothing and now they act like Stefano is so evil
.....whatever.
I feel no pity for them...I root for Stefano in all this. the sad part is the only thing EJ sacrificed is Sami because she's the one thats going to keep on suffering. EJ is pathetic
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I honestly think EJ's plan to take over Dimera Enterprise could have worked and lasted. If it were not for Samantha and her busy body ways he would have had time to do his work and ensure that everything was in order. During her incarceration he was always by her side, plus he had to take care of the children. This left him with hardly any time to concentrate on business, the man looks haggard and stressed out . Anyone would be under these circumstances!!! As for Stefano his day is coming , because having EJ continue living in his house and working for him that spells trouble to me .I only hope that the writers make EJ a stronger , smarter individual this time around and also have Samantha by his side helping all the way. :makeout:
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Does anyone else think that Abe is working with Stefano ?? He was too reluctant to believe that Bernardi was a dirty cop . Also when Roman asked him what he found out he dismissed Roman. Quite frankly his behavior is a tad bit suspicious to me . It makes me wonder :shrug:
As for the other members : Kristen , she was playing EJ from day one, she knew that the only sister EJ loved was Lexie .
Chad : I believe that Stefano is pulling his strings and that Stefano is going to use EJ to expose his siblings and stick it to EJ at the same time. :soapbox:
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

I was so relieved to see that the EJ/Stefano scenes played out SOOOO much better than I feared. I've often cringed when JS has had to play the extremely emotional scenes because he can take it over the top - and while he skirted that initially with these scenes I felt like he pulled it back in and nailed it with the portrayal of EJ's flat out desperation. I thought the writing did a good job of showing that EJ had tried absolutely everything else to free Sami - setting up the deposit in the bank account, going to Trask to offer both Stefano and himself, preparing to take his family and run with the fake passports only to finally realize that Stefano had been a step ahead of him the entire time. He knew the trial was winding down - there was little time left to do anything to change the clear outcome of a guilty verdict. So in the end, he did the only thing left to him which was to grovel, beg and promise to meet every one of Stefano's conditions. The mixed look of disgust, shame and hatred as he was standing back up from the floor was great. Even later, as he was signing the paperwork and essentially waiting for Daddy to dismiss him so he could go to the trial I thought JS conveyed so much in just his body language. EJ is beaten and bowed...but there is no doubt his deep seated anger and humiliation is going to fuel his future decisions. Given EJ's history of anger fueled decisions things probably are going to be pretty rocky for him - but it sets up all sorts of great storyline potential.

JM was just outstanding. It was so nice to see the Stefano of old again...not even a shred of sympathy for EJ. That's how it needed to be. I've always enjoyed the back and forth of their relationship but given the things they've both dealt with in the past year or so - I loved seeing Stefano being so ruthless. Ruthless Stefano is likely to only further alienate EJ, just as he did with Tony all those years.

These scenes were absolutely Emmy bait for both JS and JM - but I feel like they both delivered the goods.

I thought AS was pretty great today, too. I appreciate that she's playing this as Sami trying to be stoic for everyone - even as they are sitting on the stand essentially piling the dirt over her coffin with shovels. Her relief at seeing EJ made sense to me - in a room full of judgments and hostility I can only imagine how much she needed his support.

I'm curious (and hopeful) to see if Justin continues to have story after the conclusion of the trial. It only makes sense to me that Stefano may have him in his sights for his part in helping EJ take control of the company. I'm hoping we'll continue to see EJ and Justin interacting - and perhaps EJ trying to help Justin stay ahead of Stefano. That may just be wishful thinking on my part, though.

Abby's outfit was horrendous. As pretty a girl as she is - how do they manage to find anything that looks that ridiculous on her? Cameron is a snooze and Chad is no longer of any value...so the entire storyline is a waste of airtime. :(


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I was so relieved to see that the EJ/Stefano scenes played out SOOOO much better than I feared. I've often cringed when JS has had to play the extremely emotional scenes because he can take it over the top - and while he skirted that initially with these scenes I felt like he pulled it back in and nailed it with the portrayal of EJ's flat out desperation. I thought the writing did a good job of showing that EJ had tried absolutely everything else to free Sami - setting up the deposit in the bank account, going to Trask to offer both Stefano and himself, preparing to take his family and run with the fake passports only to finally realize that Stefano had been a step ahead of him the entire time. He knew the trial was winding down - there was little time left to do anything to change the clear outcome of a guilty verdict. So in the end, he did the only thing left to him which was to grovel, beg and promise to meet every one of Stefano's conditions. The mixed look of disgust, shame and hatred as he was standing back up from the floor was great. Even later, as he was signing the paperwork and essentially waiting for Daddy to dismiss him so he could go to the trial I thought JS conveyed so much in just his body language. EJ is beaten and bowed...but there is no doubt his deep seated anger and humiliation is going to fuel his future decisions. Given EJ's history of anger fueled decisions things probably are going to be pretty rocky for him - but it sets up all sorts of great storyline potential.

JM was just outstanding. It was so nice to see the Stefano of old again...not even a shred of sympathy for EJ. That's how it needed to be. I've always enjoyed the back and forth of their relationship but given the things they've both dealt with in the past year or so - I loved seeing Stefano being so ruthless. Ruthless Stefano is likely to only further alienate EJ, just as he did with Tony all those years.

These scenes were absolutely Emmy bait for both JS and JM - but I feel like they both delivered the goods.

I thought AS was pretty great today, too. I appreciate that she's playing this as Sami trying to be stoic for everyone - even as they are sitting on the stand essentially piling the dirt over her coffin with shovels. Her relief at seeing EJ made sense to me - in a room full of judgments and hostility I can only imagine how much she needed his support.

I'm curious (and hopeful) to see if Justin continues to have story after the conclusion of the trial. It only makes sense to me that Stefano may have him in his sights for his part in helping EJ take control of the company. I'm hoping we'll continue to see EJ and Justin interacting - and perhaps EJ trying to help Justin stay ahead of Stefano. That may just be wishful thinking on my part, though.

Abby's outfit was horrendous. As pretty a girl as she is - how do they manage to find anything that looks that ridiculous on her? Cameron is a snooze and Chad is no longer of any value...so the entire storyline is a waste of airtime. :(


I agree with you . EJ needs to work with Justin and take years carefully planning the demise of Stefano . When they finally put their plan together it should shock Stefano to his core . He should not see it coming , this would be very entertaining !!
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I was so relieved to see that the EJ/Stefano scenes played out SOOOO much better than I feared. I've often cringed when JS has had to play the extremely emotional scenes because he can take it over the top - and while he skirted that initially with these scenes I felt like he pulled it back in and nailed it with the portrayal of EJ's flat out desperation. I thought the writing did a good job of showing that EJ had tried absolutely everything else to free Sami - setting up the deposit in the bank account, going to Trask to offer both Stefano and himself, preparing to take his family and run with the fake passports only to finally realize that Stefano had been a step ahead of him the entire time. He knew the trial was winding down - there was little time left to do anything to change the clear outcome of a guilty verdict. So in the end, he did the only thing left to him which was to grovel, beg and promise to meet every one of Stefano's conditions. The mixed look of disgust, shame and hatred as he was standing back up from the floor was great. Even later, as he was signing the paperwork and essentially waiting for Daddy to dismiss him so he could go to the trial I thought JS conveyed so much in just his body language. EJ is beaten and bowed...but there is no doubt his deep seated anger and humiliation is going to fuel his future decisions. Given EJ's history of anger fueled decisions things probably are going to be pretty rocky for him - but it sets up all sorts of great storyline potential.

JM was just outstanding. It was so nice to see the Stefano of old again...not even a shred of sympathy for EJ. That's how it needed to be. I've always enjoyed the back and forth of their relationship but given the things they've both dealt with in the past year or so - I loved seeing Stefano being so ruthless. Ruthless Stefano is likely to only further alienate EJ, just as he did with Tony all those years.




This a thousand times THIS. JS was fast approaching consuming the scene w/ his excessive chewing up to and including the moment EJ overturned the table. But - as you say- he was able to regroup and pull back, leading to those heart aching groveling scenes. Perhaps, JM gave him so advice in between scenes. Whatever it was, I'm glad he pulled himself from the OTT ledge. Heck, I rewatched the episode again and though my thoughts didn't change on the scenes up to the table upending, I was able to truly appreciate his performance tenfold beyond that point. Gawd, EJ's self-disgust and humiliation was palpable to me.

As for JM, he is just amazing, and you can see in his performance how he relishes Stefano. Bravo!

I am so interested in seeing where this storyline goes.

ETA:
And I'm going to say something I NEVER thought I'd say: I actually enjoyed Rafe yesterday. I liked his dynamic with Jordan. And when Gabi was added into the mix, it made him even more enjoyable. At this point, there's good possibility that I'm going to like Rafe/Jordan.
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I just watched the episode. For the first time, I may have actually liked EJ. As others have said, JS showed angst, pain, hatred (of himself) and Stefano. Wow.
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I loved everything about the EJ and Stefano scenes, everything EJ did for love and his Samantha, Stefano being his ole self again, it makes for some interesting times over at the Dimera Mansion.

I thought JS was really really good, when EJ fell on his knees, not even able to look at Stefano as he dictated the terms, the look on his face as he had to kiss the ring and when he got up, if looks could kill.

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I'm so glad Days has supposedly gotten rid of Cam/NO. That last scene was just not good.
Don't believe rumors until you hear them from a trusted source!!
I am happy to see your response.As far as I am concerned Nathan Owens is doing okay with the material he has been given and I hope he stays around.They need another doctor in addition to Kayla and Daniel who are related to most of the characters on the show.One of the things I like about Days is the fact that they give actors,actresses like AZ,CB,CD,NO,and CM chance to act and time to get better.
That was more of a "tease" type post I was doing. Kayla and Daniel will definitely have a lot to handle on their own if Cameron leaves in the near future. Hopefully there won't be too many patients in November sweeps.
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Sep 19 2013, 11:02 AM
Does anyone else think that Abe is working with Stefano ??
Speechless. Just Speechless or typeless.

You know what else.

Stefano was really keen to get Abe re elected Mayor.. maybe they have been in it together for years.

It would also explain why the Dimera's never got charged with anything.

Cripes was it not bad enough that John had to have his geneology changed for these two now we are going to throw Abe under the bus as well.
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The showdown between EJ & Stefano was actually really good, despite my concerns.

I thought JS played it pretty well, and although he may have been OTT at times, given the context of the scenes, I was okay with it. Even his crying was pretty good this go around.

JM reminded me of the old Stefano. Good to see Nono was no where around.

Sami actually cried pretty good today too. Hardly any scrunchy to be seen.

So Chad's a cad?? Who cares. Cameron is like a sleeping pill. I'll take schemer any day.

Rafe being the resident bump on a log fits what his character has always been. Now his body is in line with his personality.

All in all, good show today!!
Both JS and JM Stefeno played those scenes very well.
JS should submit those scenes for an Emmy.
Why not JM submitting those scenes for an emmy, he was way better than JS in those scenes. I have seen JS do better. I dont think he should submit these if he wants a chance at winning. I havent seen him do anything that is emmy worthy for a while now.

For me, a lot of EJ's scenes have been cringe worthy and this one was no exception. I felt embarrassed for him. If Tptb aim is to destroy his character, they are doing an excellent job. How can this weak, and not so intelligent person take over from the phoenix.
Loved Stefano's part. He really needed to be put junior in his place, but they could have at least let him give in to Stefano's demand without completely demeaning himself.
I know how you feel. I could barely watch. Nails on a chalkboard were like Beethoven compared to that performance. It was so monumentally awful. In think he/They should have toned it back a bit.
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