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SOD: Drake Hogestyn Back!
Topic Started: Oct 21 2013, 12:48 PM (12,228 Views)
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"I like to be on top, Darling." - John Ross/Pamela

I honestly didn't expect this, I was so sure that J&M were "gone". I can't cheer 100% because I don't really trust TomSell and with they way they've been writing Marlena only hanging out with her children whenever they need her, and sometimes with Roman, I've been struggling to "enjoy" her because that's not exactly how I wanna see Marlena. Now I don't know what they're planning to do with John , even with KRisten gone, who knows maybe he's going to be all about "I have to make up with Brady" crap and the hell with Marlena. I'm glad Drake is back though, and I hope he'll get to work with Deidre again. I hope to see them together...and not like all those lame John returns from months ago where he would pop in for like 5mins only to wrap the story that was happening at the time. I don't want THAT crap for Drake again.
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I'm so ready for Drake to come home to DAYS. I only hope the writers (and I use that term loosely) can come up with a story to explain the entire turn around of John's personality this last year. Writers should remember their characters personality and history.
As for Marlena, it's been amusing to see her be a different type person with this Kristen ordeal but that's not ALL of who Marlena is to her fans. Marlena is a professional psychiatrist. She is a mother and grandmother. I used to love her scenes with Will and now they are few and far between. Above all else Marlena has taught us about love and how important it is to fight for your one true love. That is what makes John and Marlena so special.
Yes I am more than ready for John Black to come back and reclaim his soulmate. It's been far too long.
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Oct 22 2013, 01:17 PM
I'm so ready for Drake to come home to DAYS. I only hope the writers (and I use that term loosely) can come up with a story to explain the entire turn around of John's personality this last year. Writers should remember their characters personality and history.
As for Marlena, it's been amusing to see her be a different type person with this Kristen ordeal but that's not ALL of who Marlena is to her fans. Marlena is a professional psychiatrist. She is a mother and grandmother. I used to love her scenes with Will and now they are few and far between. Above all else Marlena has taught us about love and how important it is to fight for your one true love. That is what makes John and Marlena so special.
Yes I am more than ready for John Black to come back and reclaim his soulmate. It's been far too long.
And there's no reason she can't be both, because in character, Marlena is both a romantic wife and a sassafrass who loves her children above all.
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I came on here and read my post from earlier in this thread and wanted to clarify something:

I am a die hard John and Marlena fan, and in the end game, if they are not together, "Days" may be done for me. Pissed off wouldn't even begin to describe how I would feel about this show, if this return becomes all about Brady. At that point, I would probably turn the television off. I am a general "Days" fan, and love all the classic characters and couples that left their respective marks on the canvas. That said, John and Marlena mark a book end to the glory days of this show, and they saved the best for last. I never cheered for any couple the way I cheered for John and Marlena.

My experience with this show is multi-decade, so I remember other romances Marlena had, and at those times I rooted for those couples. However, she never shared the chemistry with the other actors she shares with Drake. From what I remember of Don Craig, it just seemed wrong and off track. Roman and Marlena had a love/hate thing at the start that transcended into a romantic rivalry between the two. People point to how big of a jerk Roman was when he returned in the early 90's. That's a good assumption because Roman was stubborn and opinionated, as was Marlena.

John and Marlena may have started in some minds in 1986, but for me it started during the "Stella and The Pit" storyline when they were stuck together in dire circumstances. By the time they aired "Night Sins" in prime time, I was hooked. They just fit together, and Roman felt like the impostor. Everything changed on a dime, and it was because the writing and acting were both full throttle, and we identified with the circumstances, even though they were far fetched. We got it, and they made it a human story that got us involved. It was classic soap mixed with brainwashing, impostors, and a super-villan. It was "Days of Our Lives" at it's best, and John and Marlena are the last great daytime supercouple.

That said, they have to make this an emotional storyline again, and not have them embrace automatically. Let TomSell look back at Sheri's work, and see how to gradually build a couple back together. I want some drama and a love story, and yes I want some Marlena anger. It would only make sense.

Someone said something about a breast cancer storyline, and count me on board for that. Deidre has deserved an Emmy for a lot of her work in the 1980's, and was over looked for lesser nominees three times. A realistic storyline about a couple facing an uphill battle, and a viable supercouple at that, would be amazing. IF the writers read the boards (i think most of us should write the show), take note of that.
Edited by Daysfanatic79, Oct 22 2013, 05:06 PM.
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Oct 22 2013, 05:02 PM
I came on here and read my post from earlier in this thread and wanted to clarify something:

I am a die hard John and Marlena fan, and in the end game, if they are not together, "Days" may be done for me. Pissed off wouldn't even begin to describe how I would feel about this show, if this return becomes all about Brady. At that point, I would probably turn the television off. I am a general "Days" fan, and love all the classic characters and couples that left their respective marks on the canvas. That said, John and Marlena mark a book end to the glory days of this show, and they saved the best for last. I never cheered for any couple the way I cheered for John and Marlena.

My experience with this show is multi-decade, so I remember other romances Marlena had, and at those times I rooted for those couples. However, she never shared the chemistry with the other actors she shares with Drake. From what I remember of Don Craig, it just seemed wrong and off track. Roman and Marlena had a love/hate thing at the start that transcended into a romantic rivalry between the two. People point to how big of a jerk Roman was when he returned in the early 90's. That's a good assumption because Roman was stubborn and opinionated, as was Marlena.

John and Marlena may have started in some minds in 1986, but for me it started during the "Stella and The Pit" storyline when they were stuck together in dire circumstances. By the time they aired "Night Sins" in prime time, I was hooked. They just fit together, and Roman felt like the impostor. Everything changed on a dime, and it was because the writing and acting were both full throttle, and we identified with the circumstances, even though they were far fetched. We got it, and they made it a human story that got us involved. It was classic soap mixed with brainwashing, impostors, and a super-villan. It was "Days of Our Lives" at it's best, and John and Marlena are the last great daytime supercouple.

That said, they have to make this an emotional storyline again, and not have them embrace automatically. Let TomSell look back at Sheri's work, and see how to gradually build a couple back together. I want some drama and a love story, and yes I want some Marlena anger. It would only make sense.

Someone said something about a breast cancer storyline, and count me on board for that. Deidre has deserved an Emmy for a lot of her work in the 1980's, and was over looked for lesser nominees three times. A realistic storyline about a couple facing an uphill battle, and a viable supercouple at that, would be amazing. IF the writers read the boards (i think most of us should write the show), take note of that.
I've wanted a breast cancer type story for her for years. They always seem to put the focus more on John which, IMO, is just absolutely moronic. Health crisis stories for older couples have the added benefit of not having to necessarily be the A story. It can be the focus sometimes, but it can also easily be a B or C story at other times. Also, it affects the kids. So while a parental cancer story doesn't have to be ABOUT the couple's child, it can affect their story and characterization, too. It's such a good way to bridge the gap between generations when it's done right and not wrapped up in a few weeks (i.e. Lexie and Bo). Plus it gives powerful material to the half of the couple who can actually act. Actually, it'd give powerful material to a lot of people.
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I wouldn't want that at all, just because I don't think people would have an easy time watching it. Like, Deidre would do SUCH a good job that it would be difficult to watch Marlena go through that. I had trouble watching that story on Murphy Brown too because it was very realistic. That said, I completely agree with the rest of Daysfanatic's post, and I'd love to see J&M face a difficulty together. Somewhere between Stefano's fake diabetes and a heavy illness story would work, I think. I wish they'd actually shown John's rehab (in Switzerland, lol) - something like that.
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Oct 22 2013, 08:47 PM
I've wanted a breast cancer type story for her for years. They always seem to put the focus more on John which, IMO, is just absolutely moronic. Health crisis stories for older couples have the added benefit of not having to necessarily be the A story. It can be the focus sometimes, but it can also easily be a B or C story at other times. Also, it affects the kids. So while a parental cancer story doesn't have to be ABOUT the couple's child, it can affect their story and characterization, too. It's such a good way to bridge the gap between generations when it's done right and not wrapped up in a few weeks (i.e. Lexie and Bo). Plus it gives powerful material to the half of the couple who can actually act. Actually, it'd give powerful material to a lot of people.
Yep. This has been my issue. I mean, I love John & Marlena, obviously, but Marlena is far more interesting as a character to me. She still has so much un-used (word? no?), or rather, history that hasn't been explored. She still has four missing years post-plane in 87.

It's just time to give Marlena some meaty story. Even when they came back, Marlena was supporting in John's story and in Will's, she didn't have any of her own. And then when the embezzling was over, they gave yet another one to John. Even the Kristen stuff was more about John than Marlena.

Like you said, it could give powerful material to a lot of characters, because Marlena, in some way or other, has had interaction with pretty much any character on canvas (that matters).
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lysie
Oct 22 2013, 08:47 PM
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Oct 22 2013, 05:02 PM
I came on here and read my post from earlier in this thread and wanted to clarify something:

I am a die hard John and Marlena fan, and in the end game, if they are not together, "Days" may be done for me. Pissed off wouldn't even begin to describe how I would feel about this show, if this return becomes all about Brady. At that point, I would probably turn the television off. I am a general "Days" fan, and love all the classic characters and couples that left their respective marks on the canvas. That said, John and Marlena mark a book end to the glory days of this show, and they saved the best for last. I never cheered for any couple the way I cheered for John and Marlena.

My experience with this show is multi-decade, so I remember other romances Marlena had, and at those times I rooted for those couples. However, she never shared the chemistry with the other actors she shares with Drake. From what I remember of Don Craig, it just seemed wrong and off track. Roman and Marlena had a love/hate thing at the start that transcended into a romantic rivalry between the two. People point to how big of a jerk Roman was when he returned in the early 90's. That's a good assumption because Roman was stubborn and opinionated, as was Marlena.

John and Marlena may have started in some minds in 1986, but for me it started during the "Stella and The Pit" storyline when they were stuck together in dire circumstances. By the time they aired "Night Sins" in prime time, I was hooked. They just fit together, and Roman felt like the impostor. Everything changed on a dime, and it was because the writing and acting were both full throttle, and we identified with the circumstances, even though they were far fetched. We got it, and they made it a human story that got us involved. It was classic soap mixed with brainwashing, impostors, and a super-villan. It was "Days of Our Lives" at it's best, and John and Marlena are the last great daytime supercouple.

That said, they have to make this an emotional storyline again, and not have them embrace automatically. Let TomSell look back at Sheri's work, and see how to gradually build a couple back together. I want some drama and a love story, and yes I want some Marlena anger. It would only make sense.

Someone said something about a breast cancer storyline, and count me on board for that. Deidre has deserved an Emmy for a lot of her work in the 1980's, and was over looked for lesser nominees three times. A realistic storyline about a couple facing an uphill battle, and a viable supercouple at that, would be amazing. IF the writers read the boards (i think most of us should write the show), take note of that.
I've wanted a breast cancer type story for her for years. They always seem to put the focus more on John which, IMO, is just absolutely moronic. Health crisis stories for older couples have the added benefit of not having to necessarily be the A story. It can be the focus sometimes, but it can also easily be a B or C story at other times. Also, it affects the kids. So while a parental cancer story doesn't have to be ABOUT the couple's child, it can affect their story and characterization, too. It's such a good way to bridge the gap between generations when it's done right and not wrapped up in a few weeks (i.e. Lexie and Bo). Plus it gives powerful material to the half of the couple who can actually act. Actually, it'd give powerful material to a lot of people.
Count me in as being totally on board with this. There is so much drama they could mine from this, not the least of which is John losing one wife to cancer already. I always felt Drake did some of his best acting during Isabella's cancer, and Deidre would kill this material. It would also be a great way to bring all the Jarlena kids back to Salem (Carrie and Belle). If they did do this, I hope whoever would write it would watch the clips of GH back in 1995 when Monica Quartermaine had breast cancer and take notes. It was so damn realistic and interwove the already existing family drama into it effortlessly.
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Oct 23 2013, 09:26 AM
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Oct 22 2013, 08:47 PM
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Oct 22 2013, 05:02 PM
I came on here and read my post from earlier in this thread and wanted to clarify something:

I am a die hard John and Marlena fan, and in the end game, if they are not together, "Days" may be done for me. Pissed off wouldn't even begin to describe how I would feel about this show, if this return becomes all about Brady. At that point, I would probably turn the television off. I am a general "Days" fan, and love all the classic characters and couples that left their respective marks on the canvas. That said, John and Marlena mark a book end to the glory days of this show, and they saved the best for last. I never cheered for any couple the way I cheered for John and Marlena.

My experience with this show is multi-decade, so I remember other romances Marlena had, and at those times I rooted for those couples. However, she never shared the chemistry with the other actors she shares with Drake. From what I remember of Don Craig, it just seemed wrong and off track. Roman and Marlena had a love/hate thing at the start that transcended into a romantic rivalry between the two. People point to how big of a jerk Roman was when he returned in the early 90's. That's a good assumption because Roman was stubborn and opinionated, as was Marlena.

John and Marlena may have started in some minds in 1986, but for me it started during the "Stella and The Pit" storyline when they were stuck together in dire circumstances. By the time they aired "Night Sins" in prime time, I was hooked. They just fit together, and Roman felt like the impostor. Everything changed on a dime, and it was because the writing and acting were both full throttle, and we identified with the circumstances, even though they were far fetched. We got it, and they made it a human story that got us involved. It was classic soap mixed with brainwashing, impostors, and a super-villan. It was "Days of Our Lives" at it's best, and John and Marlena are the last great daytime supercouple.

That said, they have to make this an emotional storyline again, and not have them embrace automatically. Let TomSell look back at Sheri's work, and see how to gradually build a couple back together. I want some drama and a love story, and yes I want some Marlena anger. It would only make sense.

Someone said something about a breast cancer storyline, and count me on board for that. Deidre has deserved an Emmy for a lot of her work in the 1980's, and was over looked for lesser nominees three times. A realistic storyline about a couple facing an uphill battle, and a viable supercouple at that, would be amazing. IF the writers read the boards (i think most of us should write the show), take note of that.
I've wanted a breast cancer type story for her for years. They always seem to put the focus more on John which, IMO, is just absolutely moronic. Health crisis stories for older couples have the added benefit of not having to necessarily be the A story. It can be the focus sometimes, but it can also easily be a B or C story at other times. Also, it affects the kids. So while a parental cancer story doesn't have to be ABOUT the couple's child, it can affect their story and characterization, too. It's such a good way to bridge the gap between generations when it's done right and not wrapped up in a few weeks (i.e. Lexie and Bo). Plus it gives powerful material to the half of the couple who can actually act. Actually, it'd give powerful material to a lot of people.
Count me in as being totally on board with this. There is so much drama they could mine from this, not the least of which is John losing one wife to cancer already. I always felt Drake did some of his best acting during Isabella's cancer, and Deidre would kill this material. It would also be a great way to bring all the Jarlena kids back to Salem (Carrie and Belle). If they did do this, I hope whoever would write it would watch the clips of GH back in 1995 when Monica Quartermaine had breast cancer and take notes. It was so damn realistic and interwove the already existing family drama into it effortlessly.
Izzy's cancer's one of the main reasons why I'd love to see Marlena/J&M battle against cancer. So much potential.. But we really, REALLY need a new writing team before that...
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what if he was brought back to take Marlena away and they are leaving the show again?
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Oct 23 2013, 02:06 PM
what if he was brought back to take Marlena away and they are leaving the show again?


Bite your tongue.......please.

If I can't have J&M on my screen, I'll take Marlena alone, and even John alone as long as he is written well. But, to lose them both again would be horrible.

JMO of course.
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I am on board for a cancer storyline! That just doesn't sound right... :facepalm:

But oh wow would Deidre ROCK that :rockon: ! And it would truly be a storyline that would encompass SO MANY characters... but finally Marlena would be the focus!
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Oct 23 2013, 02:06 PM
what if he was brought back to take Marlena away and they are leaving the show again?
I just got nauseous. This show has me hanging on by a thread right now, and I have watched fairly consistently (even during Higley) for over 30 years.

If that were to be the reason (which I doubt it is) then I would probably be through. My hope is that Drake said "Thanks, I'm back off the bench". That means he is on the show again and thanks the fans. He wouldn't do that if he were just there to pick up Doc.
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^ My face watching DAYS

I would absolutely LOVE a cancer type storyline for Marlena...Deidre Hall needs something to sink her teeth into, something that is ABOUT Marlena.

Hall needs to win an Emmy before this show goes off the air!
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Oct 23 2013, 05:39 PM
I would absolutely LOVE a cancer type storyline for Marlena...Deidre Hall needs something to sink her teeth into, something that is ABOUT Marlena.

Hall needs to win an Emmy before this show goes off the air!
It's a ridiculous fact that she hasn't. I can name 10 storylines just off the top of my head that she deserved it for.
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Oct 23 2013, 05:39 PM
I would absolutely LOVE a cancer type storyline for Marlena...Deidre Hall needs something to sink her teeth into, something that is ABOUT Marlena.

Hall needs to win an Emmy before this show goes off the air!
It's a ridiculous fact that she hasn't. I can name 10 storylines just off the top of my head that she deserved it for.
In the 1980's she was nominated three times, and I thought for sure she would win with the reel of Bo telling her he left Roman on the beach. That was just a hideous close call that should have given her the statue.

Then, the affair with John and Belle being announced as John's daughter came along, and she wasn't even nominated. She played those scenes with such conviction and it was electric, but still there was not even an Emmy nod for the work. It astounded me at the time, because to this day, I think the way she portrayed Marlena during the affair saga was her best work. It literally turned an entire fan base on it's head and made us rethink what we thought was obvious. I went in with a feeling that she should be with Roman, and by the time she and Drake were through, I wanted Roman out of her world. That is an amazing performance.
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Oct 23 2013, 05:39 PM
I would absolutely LOVE a cancer type storyline for Marlena...Deidre Hall needs something to sink her teeth into, something that is ABOUT Marlena.

Hall needs to win an Emmy before this show goes off the air!
It's a ridiculous fact that she hasn't. I can name 10 storylines just off the top of my head that she deserved it for.
In the 1980's she was nominated three times, and I thought for sure she would win with the reel of Bo telling her he left Roman on the beach. That was just a hideous close call that should have given her the statue.

Then, the affair with John and Belle being announced as John's daughter came along, and she wasn't even nominated. She played those scenes with such conviction and it was electric, but still there was not even an Emmy nod for the work. It astounded me at the time, because to this day, I think the way she portrayed Marlena during the affair saga was her best work. It literally turned an entire fan base on it's head and made us rethink what we thought was obvious. I went in with a feeling that she should be with Roman, and by the time she and Drake were through, I wanted Roman out of her world. That is an amazing performance.
I completely agree! There are so many storylines that she should have won an Emmy for. Personally, I think it should have been a no brainer for her to win an Emmy for the storyline of John's death. She did such an amazing job with those scenes: When John died, Marlena's reaction to coming home without John being there, etc...
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Oct 23 2013, 07:47 PM
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Oct 23 2013, 05:39 PM
I would absolutely LOVE a cancer type storyline for Marlena...Deidre Hall needs something to sink her teeth into, something that is ABOUT Marlena.

Hall needs to win an Emmy before this show goes off the air!
It's a ridiculous fact that she hasn't. I can name 10 storylines just off the top of my head that she deserved it for.
In the 1980's she was nominated three times, and I thought for sure she would win with the reel of Bo telling her he left Roman on the beach. That was just a hideous close call that should have given her the statue.

Then, the affair with John and Belle being announced as John's daughter came along, and she wasn't even nominated. She played those scenes with such conviction and it was electric, but still there was not even an Emmy nod for the work. It astounded me at the time, because to this day, I think the way she portrayed Marlena during the affair saga was her best work. It literally turned an entire fan base on it's head and made us rethink what we thought was obvious. I went in with a feeling that she should be with Roman, and by the time she and Drake were through, I wanted Roman out of her world. That is an amazing performance.
I don't think she entered the race that year. After like 1985, she didn't enter until 10 years later, with the Possession... and then not until 2004, although I'm not really sure if she did submit that year or not. I feel like she said she didn't, but I find it ridiculous to think she wouldn't have. And then she submitted last year because producers told her to. She says it's not important to her, and that she won't submit until she feels the material and her performance is worthy. Which is admirable... though... annoying ;) Because I felt she should've gotten one for the Pit story, the Affair, The Possession, Aremid, the Brady crap, the Serial Killer story... Basically, if you give her actual material and let her act her pretty, sassy brains off, she'll be worthy.
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Days wont ever do a good storyline for marlena ...a cancer storyline look at the joke the alzhemers storyline and abe and lexi's son...and kate had cancer days cant do those type of storylines...we will be lucky if marlena is kidnaped again before the show is off the air
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