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Spoilers for the week of November 11th; *updated 11/4*
Topic Started: Oct 29 2013, 11:41 PM (37,488 Views)
LuvingLumi
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Supergirlx2
Nov 4 2013, 11:41 AM
LuvingLumi
Nov 4 2013, 11:18 AM
tomsawyer
Nov 4 2013, 10:39 AM
Laufeyson
Nov 4 2013, 10:22 AM
He has to sacrifice a whole lot for her and gets nothing in return. All he has is her living at the DiMansion with the kids but beyond that, nothing much.
And he gets to have sex with her too which apparently he likes. I don't see that EJ wants anything different from Sami than what he's getting right now. Dude even seems to like getting yelled at by her because he gets to yell back and then have sex.
Meh...he liked sex with Taylor too and Nicole also but for some reason with those two he would actually talk about issues and problems plaguing the relationship without carrying them up the stairs caveman style to do them.....IDK I think if I was an Ejami fan I'd be so pissed at the writing for them...in the beginning it wasn't so obvious but after a while it really feels like it's being done on purpose to show that this so called relationship they have is nothing more than lust and sex...once you take that away, they don't discuss their issues, they don't tackle their problems and they haven't faced what is truly plaguing them.
that last bit of your description is a perfect description of what Bo & Hope were for years. If nothing else, MarDar actually showed them talk to Marlena about their issues and be able to be more open with each other.
I don't expect EJami to ever change. And i don't really expect to hear that they're breaking up (unless they're breaking up Fetch Style) any time soon. What's funny though, is that TomSell seem to have run out of things to write for EJami. And they haven't even really been together all that long. You look at couples like John/Marlena, Bo/Hope, even Jack/Jen (to a lesser extent since they came & went on canvas) & the writers always had something to write for them that was more than some stupid "he lies/hides something/etc., she finds out, they argue, she forgives, they have sex" continuous circle. If John & Marlena were bickering, there was a real reason for it & the disagreement would last for episodes. John would talk to Bo/Abe/Roman about it, while Marlena would seek advice from Hope/whoever.
If TomSell can't find something real for EJ & Sami to do, then they need to have EJami take a vacation or something and not take away airtime from characters that could use some more, or show space from interactions/story bits that should be included in other stories but for whatever reason are not.
IMHO Ejami's appeal was that they were attracted to one another and couldn't be together because of the family dynamics..now that they are together, the show has no clue what else to do with them.
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LuvingLumi
Nov 4 2013, 12:20 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 11:41 AM
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Nov 4 2013, 11:18 AM
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Nov 4 2013, 10:39 AM

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Meh...he liked sex with Taylor too and Nicole also but for some reason with those two he would actually talk about issues and problems plaguing the relationship without carrying them up the stairs caveman style to do them.....IDK I think if I was an Ejami fan I'd be so pissed at the writing for them...in the beginning it wasn't so obvious but after a while it really feels like it's being done on purpose to show that this so called relationship they have is nothing more than lust and sex...once you take that away, they don't discuss their issues, they don't tackle their problems and they haven't faced what is truly plaguing them.
Are you actually watching the Ejami sex scenes? They generally fight, have sex, and then talk about what got them riled up in the first place.

I think it fits their characters that they as a couple are volatile, emotional, self centered, passionate, and dysfunctional, all of which are displayed when they have a disagreement about something. As a fan of the pairing, I expect and enjoy their crazy relationship.
talking isn't dealing with issues....they don't deal with ANYTHING....
Has Ej ever confronted her about the conversation he overheard between her and Kate concerning Rafe or was that just swept under the rug? I think that is an issue that should have been dealt with.
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JillianJ
Nov 4 2013, 11:37 AM
LuvingLumi
Nov 4 2013, 11:18 AM
tomsawyer
Nov 4 2013, 10:39 AM
Laufeyson
Nov 4 2013, 10:22 AM
He has to sacrifice a whole lot for her and gets nothing in return. All he has is her living at the DiMansion with the kids but beyond that, nothing much.
And he gets to have sex with her too which apparently he likes. I don't see that EJ wants anything different from Sami than what he's getting right now. Dude even seems to like getting yelled at by her because he gets to yell back and then have sex.
Meh...he liked sex with Taylor too and Nicole also but for some reason with those two he would actually talk about issues and problems plaguing the relationship without carrying them up the stairs caveman style to do them.....IDK I think if I was an Ejami fan I'd be so pissed at the writing for them...in the beginning it wasn't so obvious but after a while it really feels like it's being done on purpose to show that this so called relationship they have is nothing more than lust and sex...once you take that away, they don't discuss their issues, they don't tackle their problems and they haven't faced what is truly plaguing them.
What exactly was there for them to talk about? There was no issue, Sami was teasing EJ and very proud of her man for putting Lucas in his place and over her shoulder she went for some fun :lol: :wub2:

Then we have the time before that where they actually talked, EJ gave her space, they talked some more, Sami consulted Will and then they came together, no sex involved.

The time before that, they fought, each used Caroline and Chad respectively as a sounding board and came together after to talk about their issues and resolve it, no sex involved.

So its not an accurate picture that is being painted here with all EJ and Sami do is have sex and leaving their issues to fester. They manage to do both, and that is a win win for this EJAMI fan and I am sure I am not the only one who feels that way.

As for EJ being backburned if EJAMI are ever over and suffer the fate of Lucas and Rafe, not sure about that given that EJ is no Lucas and Rafe. EJ and Sami have danced around a relationship before and each time when it ended EJ's presence in the show never suffered one bit. I remember it even being thrown around earlier this year that James episode count and so forth would have suffered and from what I am seeing posted on this board, he is right up there.
On bolded...they didn't resolve anything. She wasn't happy with what he'd done, but she didn't want to leave, she agreed with Lucas about the safety of the children...and THAT is the issue...the fact that he unilaterally decided on the fate of ALL her children (and her) for her....it's not resolved.....she caved..that isn't resolving an issue....
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Nov 4 2013, 10:10 AM
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Nov 4 2013, 09:56 AM
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Nov 4 2013, 09:49 AM
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Nov 4 2013, 08:23 AM

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It has been 20 years and Jack has regretted his actions to his dying day, for that he shouldn't be grouped with those 3.
Why not? Just because he felt bad, atoned and was redeemed doesn't change the fact that he is still a rapist. I think the poster's point was that being a rapist doesn't mean you have to leave the canvas, as evidenced by the continued presence of Jack, Sami and EJ after they raped somebody. Obviously it doesn't matter in Kristen's case with ED's desire to leave.
I stand by my statement. I cannot group him with those three simply because he repented and they haven't. He is a rapist, yes, but one who actually turned his life around when they haven't.
Totally with you. I'm not excusing his treatment of Kayla, but he's the only that I truly saw remorse from. Of course, you'll never see remorse from a Dimera.

I had trouble ever hating Jack simply because Kayla was cheating on him and lying to him at the time with and about Steve - NOT that I'm excusing his actions, but I hated her for jerking him around.
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You know what's weird to me? TomSell aren't half bad at writing a build up to a relationship. Unfortunately, they've only actually done it once. There's not a single pairing that's together that they've written anything good for. They're all exactly the same and they're all dull dull dull rushed rushed rushed and no longer particularly viable as couples. I hope they drag Ericole out until they're fired and maybe a new writing team can hand he them once they're actually together.
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Nov 4 2013, 12:23 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 12:20 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 11:41 AM
LuvingLumi
Nov 4 2013, 11:18 AM

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Are you actually watching the Ejami sex scenes? They generally fight, have sex, and then talk about what got them riled up in the first place.

I think it fits their characters that they as a couple are volatile, emotional, self centered, passionate, and dysfunctional, all of which are displayed when they have a disagreement about something. As a fan of the pairing, I expect and enjoy their crazy relationship.
talking isn't dealing with issues....they don't deal with ANYTHING....
Has Ej ever confronted her about the conversation he overheard between her and Kate concerning Rafe or was that just swept under the rug? I think that is an issue that should have been dealt with.
No...and that is what I'm saying.....they fight about the Rafe being beaten thing....the trust issue between them that made her think of that in the first place wasn't resolved because it continues to fester now. He hasn't proven that he's trustworthy, even when she was in jail, and I know she really didn't bat an eye because it benefited her but why didn't she question why he would do such stupid things to get her off....that he's smarter than that...that would have been a REAL issue for them to deal with, instead they shove it to the side....

She pretty much agrees with Lucas about the kids safety and what happens, she doesn't deal with it....she let's Ej do it and then she's happy about it and screws him. But the actual problem of her moving into the Mansion isn't settled....she didn't like it but she didn't do much about it either....to be fair she should have had a bigger issue with the fact that she was willing to throw him under the bus and take the DA's deal.....that again was never dealt with....
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LuvingLumi
Nov 4 2013, 12:20 PM
talking isn't dealing with issues....they don't deal with ANYTHING....
Hopefully that's the point. Whether it's Sami suspecting EJ of beating up Rafe, EJ not telling Sami about the DE takeover and his deal with fatha, or Sami considering selling EJ out to get out of jail early, it's been shown over and over that these two have trust issues. And like I said upthread, that's as it should be given their history and who they are as individuals. Up to this point, I'd say when a trust issue arises they move past it quickly, but don't resolve it. Hopefully the show is going somewhere with this and will turn it into a more full-fledged angst story. When she finds out that EJ didn't tell her about Kristen/Eric, I hope Sami steps back from the relationship for awhile to consider if she can really be with somebody like EJ. I hope they actually have to spend some time to work through their issues.
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Days is not perfect, but atleast RC from GH isn't writing. He takes characters off for weeks and then comes back to their stories when he feels like it. If he was writing the Eric stuff, it would have been three weeks ago until we saw it again
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Soap.com daily spoilers

Monday November 11:

Eric unleashes his anger at a remorseful Marlena. Later, Eric and Brady come to blows!

Tuesday November 12:

Kristen holds Marlena at gunpoint!

Wednesday November 13:

Eric confronts Kristen. Later, Nicole and Kristen have a major showdown – which ends with both their lives hanging in the balance.

Thursday November 14:

Sami explodes when she finds an incriminating text on EJ’s phone.

Victor makes a surprising offer to Nicole.

Friday November 15:

Will and Sonny learn about Gabi’s job offer – but she doesn’t tell them a key piece of information.

http://soaps.sheknows.com/daysofourlives/spoilers/
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lysie
Nov 4 2013, 12:27 PM
You know what's weird to me? TomSell aren't half bad at writing a build up to a relationship. Unfortunately, they've only actually done it once. There's not a single pairing that's together that they've written anything good for. They're all exactly the same and they're all dull dull dull rushed rushed rushed and no longer particularly viable as couples. I hope they drag Ericole out until they're fired and maybe a new writing team can hand he them once they're actually together.
That's the part I don't get. Why didn't TomSell draw out Ejami getting together? I mean, they had a majorly fucked up dynamic. It SHOULD have taken them a loooong time to get to a place where they could actually be together. There was a LOT of runway to do a slow, long-term build up to them as a couple. Although by the time TomSell was handed the reigns, Ejami was already on good terms again and having "near kiss" moments, so I can see their dilemma. Really, I think the point at which to really begin a long-term build back to them as a couple would've been February 2012. Ultimately, I'm betting it's NBC that rushed the Ejami story.
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Nov 4 2013, 12:45 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 12:27 PM
You know what's weird to me? TomSell aren't half bad at writing a build up to a relationship. Unfortunately, they've only actually done it once. There's not a single pairing that's together that they've written anything good for. They're all exactly the same and they're all dull dull dull rushed rushed rushed and no longer particularly viable as couples. I hope they drag Ericole out until they're fired and maybe a new writing team can hand he them once they're actually together.
That's the part I don't get. Why didn't TomSell draw out Ejami getting together? I mean, they had a majorly fucked up dynamic. It SHOULD have taken them a loooong time to get to a place where they could actually be together. There was a LOT of runway to do a slow, long-term build up to them as a couple. Although by the time TomSell was handed the reigns, Ejami was already on good terms again and having "near kiss" moments, so I can see their dilemma. Really, I think the point at which to really begin a long-term build back to them as a couple would've been February 2012. Ultimately, I'm betting it's NBC that rushed the Ejami story.
NBC may be part of the problem but the same thing has happened with Dannifer, Bristen, and WilSon. And the poor couple writing extends to the way they've handled the supercouples. Because TomSell also can't do real break-ups. There is literally one thing they can do, and for whatever reason they're only doing it for Ericole. Luckily, I like Ericole but it'd be nice if they could put some effort into the other 93% of the show.
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Nov 4 2013, 12:45 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 12:27 PM
You know what's weird to me? TomSell aren't half bad at writing a build up to a relationship. Unfortunately, they've only actually done it once. There's not a single pairing that's together that they've written anything good for. They're all exactly the same and they're all dull dull dull rushed rushed rushed and no longer particularly viable as couples. I hope they drag Ericole out until they're fired and maybe a new writing team can hand he them once they're actually together.
That's the part I don't get. Why didn't TomSell draw out Ejami getting together? I mean, they had a majorly fucked up dynamic. It SHOULD have taken them a loooong time to get to a place where they could actually be together. There was a LOT of runway to do a slow, long-term build up to them as a couple. Although by the time TomSell was handed the reigns, Ejami was already on good terms again and having "near kiss" moments, so I can see their dilemma. Really, I think the point at which to really begin a long-term build back to them as a couple would've been February 2012. Ultimately, I'm betting it's NBC that rushed the Ejami story.
January 2013 you had Sami & Rafe happily together & Sami telling Hope that she thought Rafe was her soulmate (or something like that) - basically drawing a comparison between Bope & Safe. But not too long after that, Safe was over and EJami were together. And I have no doubt it was NBC who told TomSell to rush the story. After all, NBC needed to replace the picture of Peter & Kristian on their Media site now that Peter was gone, and they replaced it with a pic of Ali & James. So they couldn't exactly not have EJ & Sami together with that pic on their Days home page.
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I hate the Ericole stuff. When Eric was throwing her past mistakes in her face last week (Sydney and the whole Jen/Daniel stuff) that was the final straw for me and I hope it was for Nicole too. That proves he didn't understand nor forgive her as he once tried to pretend. He is not worthy of her love on any level.

Another issue Ej and Sami have yet to talk about is the fact that she was so willing to dump EJ's butt and was going to remarry Rafe. She put on a dog and pony show for Ej about how she wanted to be with him all along blah blah blah, but the audience was very award that "NO she did not! She want Rafe!" She can lie all she wants, but that's the way it was. To make a true story, the writers should have had to tell Rafe FIRST that she didn't still love him and she was torn about her feelings for EJ. Instead they write she has a fight with Rafe and turns to EJ to hurt Rafe. She was after something to throw in his face, and EJ was the closest thing at hand. No man in his right mind would have accepted such treatment. EJ even told Chad "Don't let yourself be second choice." Really EJ? He wrote the book on being second place..and enjoying it.
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Nov 4 2013, 12:57 PM
tomsawyer
Nov 4 2013, 12:45 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 12:27 PM
You know what's weird to me? TomSell aren't half bad at writing a build up to a relationship. Unfortunately, they've only actually done it once. There's not a single pairing that's together that they've written anything good for. They're all exactly the same and they're all dull dull dull rushed rushed rushed and no longer particularly viable as couples. I hope they drag Ericole out until they're fired and maybe a new writing team can hand he them once they're actually together.
That's the part I don't get. Why didn't TomSell draw out Ejami getting together? I mean, they had a majorly fucked up dynamic. It SHOULD have taken them a loooong time to get to a place where they could actually be together. There was a LOT of runway to do a slow, long-term build up to them as a couple. Although by the time TomSell was handed the reigns, Ejami was already on good terms again and having "near kiss" moments, so I can see their dilemma. Really, I think the point at which to really begin a long-term build back to them as a couple would've been February 2012. Ultimately, I'm betting it's NBC that rushed the Ejami story.
January 2013 you had Sami & Rafe happily together & Sami telling Hope that she thought Rafe was her soulmate (or something like that) - basically drawing a comparison between Bope & Safe. But not too long after that, Safe was over and EJami were together. And I have no doubt it was NBC who told TomSell to rush the story. After all, NBC needed to replace the picture of Peter & Kristian on their Media site now that Peter was gone, and they replaced it with a pic of Ali & James. So they couldn't exactly not have EJ & Sami together with that pic on their Days home page.
YES! Exactly!
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I want to know what Victor's offer to Nicole is since her life is hanging in the balance on the day before the offer. If she hadn't already been offered a job, I'd think he was offering her a position at Titan.

Perhaps Kristen "dies" and he's offering her a lawyer.
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Nov 4 2013, 01:11 PM
I hate the Ericole stuff. When Eric was throwing her past mistakes in her face last week (Sydney and the whole Jen/Daniel stuff) that was the final straw for me and I hope it was for Nicole too. That proves he didn't understand nor forgive her as he once tried to pretend. He is not worthy of her love on any level.

Another issue Ej and Sami have yet to talk about is the fact that she was so willing to dump EJ's butt and was going to remarry Rafe. She put on a dog and pony show for Ej about how she wanted to be with him all along blah blah blah, but the audience was very award that "NO she did not! She want Rafe!" She can lie all she wants, but that's the way it was. To make a true story, the writers should have had to tell Rafe FIRST that she didn't still love him and she was torn about her feelings for EJ. Instead they write she has a fight with Rafe and turns to EJ to hurt Rafe. She was after something to throw in his face, and EJ was the closest thing at hand. No man in his right mind would have accepted such treatment. EJ even told Chad "Don't let yourself be second choice." Really EJ? He wrote the book on being second place..and enjoying it.
My perception of what happened between Sami, Rafe and EJ after Gabi's wedding blew up is quite different than yours. Sami did not turn to EJ to hurt Rafe. She was brutally honest about what went on with Rafe before anything happened with EJ. Now she did throw it in Rafe's face when he gave her his usual sanctimonious crap!

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Nov 4 2013, 01:41 PM
Vicky4Mimi
Nov 4 2013, 01:11 PM
I hate the Ericole stuff. When Eric was throwing her past mistakes in her face last week (Sydney and the whole Jen/Daniel stuff) that was the final straw for me and I hope it was for Nicole too. That proves he didn't understand nor forgive her as he once tried to pretend. He is not worthy of her love on any level.

Another issue Ej and Sami have yet to talk about is the fact that she was so willing to dump EJ's butt and was going to remarry Rafe. She put on a dog and pony show for Ej about how she wanted to be with him all along blah blah blah, but the audience was very award that "NO she did not! She want Rafe!" She can lie all she wants, but that's the way it was. To make a true story, the writers should have had to tell Rafe FIRST that she didn't still love him and she was torn about her feelings for EJ. Instead they write she has a fight with Rafe and turns to EJ to hurt Rafe. She was after something to throw in his face, and EJ was the closest thing at hand. No man in his right mind would have accepted such treatment. EJ even told Chad "Don't let yourself be second choice." Really EJ? He wrote the book on being second place..and enjoying it.
My perception of what happened between Sami, Rafe and EJ after Gabi's wedding blew up is quite different than yours. Sami did not turn to EJ to hurt Rafe. She was brutally honest about what went on with Rafe before anything happened with EJ. Now she did throw it in Rafe's face when he gave her his usual sanctimonious crap!

The writing could be spun either way. If you enjoy Ejami you see it the way you are seeing it....if you don't enjoy them, you take the perspective that if it wasn't for the huge blowup with Rafe over Gabi, that Safe could have reconciled and Ejami would have been toast...but post fight with Rafe, she immediately went and ran to Ej...it played out way to bad....if they didn't want to leave a doubt what so ever about how Sami felt they should have just gone straight to Ejami post cliffhanger, but they didn't....and when they did it was way too quickly after she was jumping for joy and telling Hope how happy she was that her and Rafe were back together.....the writing should have had her slowly come to the realization that maybe Rafe wasn't the guy for her and Ej was....but it never did that...it left more questions than answers....I agree with Tom if it would have been drawn out for months maybe we wouldn't have so many people here believing that Ejami is in this manufactured angst stand still because their 'true angst' was always their trust but she trusts him enough to be with him...and remember when she followed her ILY with I trust you.....yeah, you dont' say that unless you actually trust him....
Edited by LuvingLumi, Nov 4 2013, 02:02 PM.
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I hate the Ericole stuff. When Eric was throwing her past mistakes in her face last week (Sydney and the whole Jen/Daniel stuff) that was the final straw for me and I hope it was for Nicole too. That proves he didn't understand nor forgive her as he once tried to pretend. He is not worthy of her love on any level.

Another issue Ej and Sami have yet to talk about is the fact that she was so willing to dump EJ's butt and was going to remarry Rafe. She put on a dog and pony show for Ej about how she wanted to be with him all along blah blah blah, but the audience was very award that "NO she did not! She want Rafe!" She can lie all she wants, but that's the way it was. To make a true story, the writers should have had to tell Rafe FIRST that she didn't still love him and she was torn about her feelings for EJ. Instead they write she has a fight with Rafe and turns to EJ to hurt Rafe. She was after something to throw in his face, and EJ was the closest thing at hand. No man in his right mind would have accepted such treatment. EJ even told Chad "Don't let yourself be second choice." Really EJ? He wrote the book on being second place..and enjoying it.
I don't see it as anything but real angst for Ericole....it's not that he doesn't know her...it's that he knows what she is capable of for love and that caused HUGE doubts in him....of course it was cruel to accuse her of such a vile act but let's face it....although she hasn't raped, she has done some crazy things to get the guy she wants or keep him...it's only normal for him to jump to that conclusion....when he realizes how wrong he was it's going to be great to see.

I agree with Lysie, I hope Ericole get really drawn out so that new writers can write them, I can't stand the way TomSell write the couples....
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Nov 4 2013, 12:57 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 12:45 PM
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Nov 4 2013, 12:27 PM
You know what's weird to me? TomSell aren't half bad at writing a build up to a relationship. Unfortunately, they've only actually done it once. There's not a single pairing that's together that they've written anything good for. They're all exactly the same and they're all dull dull dull rushed rushed rushed and no longer particularly viable as couples. I hope they drag Ericole out until they're fired and maybe a new writing team can hand he them once they're actually together.
That's the part I don't get. Why didn't TomSell draw out Ejami getting together? I mean, they had a majorly fucked up dynamic. It SHOULD have taken them a loooong time to get to a place where they could actually be together. There was a LOT of runway to do a slow, long-term build up to them as a couple. Although by the time TomSell was handed the reigns, Ejami was already on good terms again and having "near kiss" moments, so I can see their dilemma. Really, I think the point at which to really begin a long-term build back to them as a couple would've been February 2012. Ultimately, I'm betting it's NBC that rushed the Ejami story.
January 2013 you had Sami & Rafe happily together & Sami telling Hope that she thought Rafe was her soulmate (or something like that) - basically drawing a comparison between Bope & Safe. But not too long after that, Safe was over and EJami were together. And I have no doubt it was NBC who told TomSell to rush the story. After all, NBC needed to replace the picture of Peter & Kristian on their Media site now that Peter was gone, and they replaced it with a pic of Ali & James. So they couldn't exactly not have EJ & Sami together with that pic on their Days home page.
I believe there were a whole lot of BTS issues involved in the timing of the EJami reunion, but I do agree that NBC was the entity that said "write them now." I think the writers wanted Sami's ultimate choice to be a surprise, but they did abrupt instead.

I am intrigued as to how Nicole and Kristen both have their lives hanging in the balance.



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Nov 4 2013, 12:24 PM
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Meh...he liked sex with Taylor too and Nicole also but for some reason with those two he would actually talk about issues and problems plaguing the relationship without carrying them up the stairs caveman style to do them.....IDK I think if I was an Ejami fan I'd be so pissed at the writing for them...in the beginning it wasn't so obvious but after a while it really feels like it's being done on purpose to show that this so called relationship they have is nothing more than lust and sex...once you take that away, they don't discuss their issues, they don't tackle their problems and they haven't faced what is truly plaguing them.
What exactly was there for them to talk about? There was no issue, Sami was teasing EJ and very proud of her man for putting Lucas in his place and over her shoulder she went for some fun :lol: :wub2:

Then we have the time before that where they actually talked, EJ gave her space, they talked some more, Sami consulted Will and then they came together, no sex involved.

The time before that, they fought, each used Caroline and Chad respectively as a sounding board and came together after to talk about their issues and resolve it, no sex involved.

So its not an accurate picture that is being painted here with all EJ and Sami do is have sex and leaving their issues to fester. They manage to do both, and that is a win win for this EJAMI fan and I am sure I am not the only one who feels that way.

As for EJ being backburned if EJAMI are ever over and suffer the fate of Lucas and Rafe, not sure about that given that EJ is no Lucas and Rafe. EJ and Sami have danced around a relationship before and each time when it ended EJ's presence in the show never suffered one bit. I remember it even being thrown around earlier this year that James episode count and so forth would have suffered and from what I am seeing posted on this board, he is right up there.
On bolded...they didn't resolve anything. She wasn't happy with what he'd done, but she didn't want to leave, she agreed with Lucas about the safety of the children...and THAT is the issue...the fact that he unilaterally decided on the fate of ALL her children (and her) for her....it's not resolved.....she caved..that isn't resolving an issue....
Actually it was, because the heart of the issue was Sami being comfortable with whatever decision she made and we actually saw her go through the process and she chose to stay for her own reasons. She weighted the risks against the their happiness and remained in that house. At at the end of the day, EJ did no decide the fate of ALL of her children, Sami has always had the option to leave if she chose and ultimately, she chose not too.
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