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Thursday, October 31st Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 31 2013, 02:39 AM (9,745 Views)
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PALMommy
Oct 31 2013, 01:47 PM
Kinay
Oct 31 2013, 01:37 PM
PALMommy
Oct 31 2013, 01:14 PM
SKBaldwin
Oct 31 2013, 01:06 PM
So Nicole discovered JJ and Daniel's secret... :sheep: I bet you she's gonna go tell Jennifer, and then she'll confront JJ for being at Theresa's apartment and Daniel for covering it up! :biggrin:
I don't think so. She's got her own issues right now . . . I'm becoming increasingly more worried that she is going to be the "murder victim" in the spoilers?? :'(

I think Theresa is faking "not remembering" and that she is on to Dr. Dan covering for JJ already and will blackmail him into pretending they're in a relationship w/o revealing it to Jennifer or anyone else OR she'll blow the whistle on JJ about being there that night.
Noooo! Please don't let Nicole be the murder victim. She is the best Days has at the moment. She can't go!
I agree that Theresa is faking it and is going to milk this OD thing for all it's worth. That is all the little shit knows how to do . At least her sight is not on JJ, Dr Dan can take care of himself ...or not.
Ya know, didn't spoilers say there'd be a "cover up"??? If Kristen was murdered by: Sami, Eric, Nicole, Brady, Victor, John (when's he supposed to be back anyway??) or even EJ, I can see that Marlena would cover for any of them if she witnesses the murder. Why EJ? His family holds the key to destroying Will and sending him to prison for shooting EJ and she wouldn't want that to come to light. John would be a twist that we might not even see coming if the "killer" is off camera and we don't actually see John for awhile, but Marlena KNOWS! Of course maybe Marlena wouldn't even see "who" kills her, but comes to and she's been shot to death. That would then throw Marlena's hat in the ring as a suspect. I hope the writers make it suspenseful and intriguing, but I'm not holding my breath or you'll be wondering who killed ME when I fall over dead (hint: the writers!)

And that's all IF Kristen is the murder victim - and we all know, "Dimeras never really die".

With our luck the major character death will be someone non-essential like Gabi and the murderer will be Nick. Ho hum! :drunk:
I would love for John to stealthily kill Kristen. After all, she is the reason he has lost the only reason he lives - his family. But if Marlena were accused he would confess. And it would have to be that he killed her in self defense. Or better yet they could say that Kristen goes missing and we don't know how or where she disappears, then down the line we can find out that John kidnapped her and stashed her off to another harem. Ok, none of that would ever happen on this boring show. I need to stop now or again I'll be very disappointed.
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KAM
Oct 31 2013, 02:03 PM
Rosebud
Oct 31 2013, 01:36 PM
Ophelia
Oct 31 2013, 01:33 PM
AZ and GV are giving wonderful performances, but I so wish Eric had just taken a second at his desk (when he was talking to himself) to express some doubt. My sympathies are with both Eric and Nicole and I do think that he's in a certain amount of shock. That doesn't make Nicole's pain any easier to take -- I blame Ari Zucker for all of her emoting. :)
Eric having doubts would be essential if these writers truly wanted to pair these two. That is what's missing, and it proves to me that these writers are incompetent.
I think I disagree about the writers being incompetent here. I know... :o ...I'm shocked at myself even as I typed that. :blulaugh:

I think the writers probably do see Ericole as end game. However, I doubt seriously that they are planning to pair them together as lovers any time soon. More likely Eric's actions will leave him to deal with all sorts of priest angst that will also include deep personal guilt and ultimately romantic regret about Nicole. In the meantime, I think it's possible that Nicole -- hopefully as part of an interesting umbrella story -- may finally get a happy relationship with a new, good guy...but the drama there will be her conflicted and unresolved feelings for Eric.

Anyway as a viewer who loves AZ (and has really come to appreciate GV) that's how I would write it. That's classic soap drama to me with good characters/actors in an evolving s/l. TomSell know how to do that when they want. They are soap pros. Why they continue to be so tone deaf on Dannifer is a painful mystery to me. But that doesn't mean they have to mess up Ericole...and unlike Eric I still have a little faith. For what good it does... :unsure:
I agree that it would be good to do the longing over years type story for them (afterall John and Marlena are my favorite couple), but the fact that Eric didn't doubt his suspicions really puts a big damper on them, even long term. For me anyway.
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Ophelia
Oct 31 2013, 02:23 PM
I think it's also important for Nicole that Eric be knocked off his pedestal. She doesn't think she's good enough for anyone as it is, but she would never have a great (and equal) relationship with Eric as-is. He's the epitome of Good and Pure and Perfect.
I think it would be possible for it to be a Kayla/Patch, John/Marlena type story... reverse of course where the male is the one to save the woman.
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Oct 31 2013, 03:25 PM
KAM
Oct 31 2013, 01:19 PM
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Oct 31 2013, 01:00 PM
Rosebud
Oct 31 2013, 12:36 PM
Thank god, Hope still hates Kristen and told Brady she doesn't want to go to the wedding! Brady once again getting a little but of reality. Thank you, Hope!
Hope seems to have found her Salem Brain after losing it for those few Fetch-heavy Theresa's OD episodes.
Unfortunately, she's not yet done with that stuff...since Hope is picked to be the one to spill it to Abigail about Jeannie Danesa. "I didn't even know they were dating." Please, that was both lame and unnecessary IMO. :x
but Hope being the one to accidentally tell Abby isn't completely unreasonable or strange. Abby calling her "Aunt Hope" was a bit more strange since Abby always just called her "Hope".
It wasn't the fact that Hope was the one doing the telling that I thought was lame and unnecessary. It was the quoted line and it's 'oops' delivery. They had it playing more like the hospital scenes than I liked to see, that's all.
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lysie
Oct 31 2013, 03:00 PM
Rosebud
Oct 31 2013, 01:36 PM
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Oct 31 2013, 01:33 PM
AZ and GV are giving wonderful performances, but I so wish Eric had just taken a second at his desk (when he was talking to himself) to express some doubt. My sympathies are with both Eric and Nicole and I do think that he's in a certain amount of shock. That doesn't make Nicole's pain any easier to take -- I blame Ari Zucker for all of her emoting. :)
Eric having doubts would be essential if these writers truly wanted to pair these two. That is what's missing, and it proves to me that these writers are incompetent.
I don't agree. I think that would be true if we were at a different point in this story but we're not. Eric hasn't been shown to have the same feelings as Nicole....yet. It's not in the writing but I think GV has added a layer of denial to Eric that also really helps this story. IMO, it comes across that Eric needs to believe this to ward off his own feelings. It's Nicole's nature to put herself down and quite frankly, I'm not in a hurry to see that change. I saw what happened to Sami when she grew out of that, and I'm not interested in that for Nicole or AZ.
Granted I didn't pay attention to Eric and Nicole back in the day, so I'm not good on their history, but to me, for a couple to work really well and be that kind of epic soapy love story there has to be a foundation of trust and belief and love that belies the kind of doubts Eric has about Nicole. For example, even when Marlena thought John Black was Stefano, she still wanted him. Even though she believed he was the man who killed Roman she fought those feelings like mad, and even kissed him.
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Rosebud
Oct 31 2013, 03:49 PM
lysie
Oct 31 2013, 03:00 PM
Rosebud
Oct 31 2013, 01:36 PM
Ophelia
Oct 31 2013, 01:33 PM
AZ and GV are giving wonderful performances, but I so wish Eric had just taken a second at his desk (when he was talking to himself) to express some doubt. My sympathies are with both Eric and Nicole and I do think that he's in a certain amount of shock. That doesn't make Nicole's pain any easier to take -- I blame Ari Zucker for all of her emoting. :)
Eric having doubts would be essential if these writers truly wanted to pair these two. That is what's missing, and it proves to me that these writers are incompetent.
I don't agree. I think that would be true if we were at a different point in this story but we're not. Eric hasn't been shown to have the same feelings as Nicole....yet. It's not in the writing but I think GV has added a layer of denial to Eric that also really helps this story. IMO, it comes across that Eric needs to believe this to ward off his own feelings. It's Nicole's nature to put herself down and quite frankly, I'm not in a hurry to see that change. I saw what happened to Sami when she grew out of that, and I'm not interested in that for Nicole or AZ.
Granted I didn't pay attention to Eric and Nicole back in the day, so I'm not good on their history, but to me, for a couple to work really well and be that kind of epic soapy love story there has to be a foundation of trust and belief and love that belies the kind of doubts Eric has about Nicole. For example, even when Marlena thought John Black was Stefano, she still wanted him. Even though she believed he was the man who killed Roman she fought those feelings like mad, and even kissed him.
Yes, but John and Marlena were regular people. Eric is a priest. He's not there yet. Having a loving relationship isn't something on his mind. You're trying to jump to what will be the eventual end of the story.
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SKBaldwin
Oct 31 2013, 01:56 PM
Ophelia
Oct 31 2013, 01:33 PM
AZ and GV are giving wonderful performances, but I so wish Eric had just taken a second at his desk (when he was talking to himself) to express some doubt. My sympathies are with both Eric and Nicole and I do think that he's in a certain amount of shock. That doesn't make Nicole's pain any easier to take -- I blame Ari Zucker for all of her emoting. :)

That scene with Jen and JJ was .. weird. "I slapped you! Why do you look sad?" Was there supposed to be a break in between those two bits? It was strangely put together.

I love the line that Anne walks re: Theresa. She has genuine concern for JT, but she's still calculating what Theresa owes her. Then we see Theresa open her eyes and that she is essentially doing the same thing.

The sheer amount of hypocrisy that bounces around that hospital with regard to work hours is astounding. Jen and Dan are rarely there and leave whenever they want, but Anne doesn't do any work? What?

Yay, Marlena and Victor! #un-neuterVictor.
Yeah, the scene with Jen and JJ was weird. They really had me going when Jen slapped him! Turns out that was just a daydream. :shrug:
That was probably a foreshadowing of what'll happen when the secret comes out.
Of course it is. Truth comes out, Daniel's deemed a hero and Jennifer sings his praises to high heaven meanwhile JJ is vilified by the whole town. Granted, JJ should tell the truth. However, no one is forcing Daniel to cover for him.
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Rosebud
Oct 31 2013, 03:24 PM
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Oct 31 2013, 01:42 PM
Does Anne ever work or is her job to stick her nose in other people's business?
What IS her job???
To bitch and snark at hospital staff for slacking off while she gets to sit on her butt and scheme and stick her nose in people's business for no obvious reason. :whip: :biatch:
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Oct 31 2013, 03:51 PM
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Oct 31 2013, 03:49 PM
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Oct 31 2013, 03:00 PM
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Oct 31 2013, 01:36 PM

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I don't agree. I think that would be true if we were at a different point in this story but we're not. Eric hasn't been shown to have the same feelings as Nicole....yet. It's not in the writing but I think GV has added a layer of denial to Eric that also really helps this story. IMO, it comes across that Eric needs to believe this to ward off his own feelings. It's Nicole's nature to put herself down and quite frankly, I'm not in a hurry to see that change. I saw what happened to Sami when she grew out of that, and I'm not interested in that for Nicole or AZ.
Granted I didn't pay attention to Eric and Nicole back in the day, so I'm not good on their history, but to me, for a couple to work really well and be that kind of epic soapy love story there has to be a foundation of trust and belief and love that belies the kind of doubts Eric has about Nicole. For example, even when Marlena thought John Black was Stefano, she still wanted him. Even though she believed he was the man who killed Roman she fought those feelings like mad, and even kissed him.
Yes, but John and Marlena were regular people. Eric is a priest. He's not there yet. Having a loving relationship isn't something on his mind. You're trying to jump to what will be the eventual end of the story.
I don't think I am. These two aren't strangers who just met. They actually had a romantic relationship, didn't they? She hasn't only known him as a priest. Maybe if Eric didn't know her from the past and if he were a new character, but he's not. Like I said, I don't know their history well at all. But to me, his mistrust and doubts doesn't say true soap soulmates. But that's totally an objective thing I guess.
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Kinay
Oct 31 2013, 03:55 PM
Rosebud
Oct 31 2013, 03:24 PM
Snowing Fan
Oct 31 2013, 01:42 PM
Does Anne ever work or is her job to stick her nose in other people's business?
What IS her job???
To bitch and snark at hospital staff for slacking off while she gets to sit on her butt and scheme and stick her nose in people's business for no obvious reason. :whip: :biatch:
Can I have that job? And does it have good benefits?
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Oct 31 2013, 03:22 PM
I feel totally jipped that the Days writers couldn't work in any kind of Halloween festivities into their stories. It's not like these are on speed dial and every scene propels the action. They drag shit out til our eyes glaze over so why not give us an energy boost with a spooky party atmosphere as a backdrop?
Maybe they're just in a place where the drama is in such a downer cycle they couldn't muster the enthusiasm themselves to carry it off? It's a missed opportunity imo to liven up Salem and wet the appetite for some variation instead of the same old, same old.
GH did a great job of doing this today, with both kids and grown ups dressed up. They even worked in Halloweenish dialogue with the adults so I'd recommend watching today's GH episode if you're in the mood for that.

They totally messed up the editing with the JJ daydream sequence. Yes, they sped up JJ's turnaround a bit, and yes it's predictable that he is thinking better of Daniel now. But I do think seeing someone overdose and almost die as your in the process of making love would be a wake up call.

I was LMAO when Victor mentioned wanting to get a text from Brady saying "Seen the light about my blood-sucking fiance. Wedding off." There's just something amusing about Victor and texts.
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Oh my gosh...Marlena calling Anne a complete and utter pain in the ass may be my favorite thing, well, ever.
Edited by Sable Colby, Oct 31 2013, 04:02 PM.
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Rosebud
Oct 31 2013, 03:57 PM
I don't think I am. These two aren't strangers who just met. They actually had a romantic relationship, didn't they? She hasn't only known him as a priest. Maybe if Eric didn't know her from the past and if he were a new character, but he's not. Like I said, I don't know their history well at all. But to me, his mistrust and doubts doesn't say true soap soulmates. But that's totally an objective thing I guess.
I'm fuzzy on this, but I thought they were engaged at one point?

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Oct 31 2013, 03:57 PM
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Oct 31 2013, 03:51 PM
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Granted I didn't pay attention to Eric and Nicole back in the day, so I'm not good on their history, but to me, for a couple to work really well and be that kind of epic soapy love story there has to be a foundation of trust and belief and love that belies the kind of doubts Eric has about Nicole. For example, even when Marlena thought John Black was Stefano, she still wanted him. Even though she believed he was the man who killed Roman she fought those feelings like mad, and even kissed him.
Yes, but John and Marlena were regular people. Eric is a priest. He's not there yet. Having a loving relationship isn't something on his mind. You're trying to jump to what will be the eventual end of the story.
I don't think I am. These two aren't strangers who just met. They actually had a romantic relationship, didn't they? She hasn't only known him as a priest. Maybe if Eric didn't know her from the past and if he were a new character, but he's not. Like I said, I don't know their history well at all. But to me, his mistrust and doubts doesn't say true soap soulmates. But that's totally an objective thing I guess.
Their relationships was over a decade ago. They're completely different people now. What happened between them in the past doesn't change where they are in life right now.

I think you proved my point though because you're referring to them as soap soul mates. They're not there yet. Eric is a priest. He's not trying to be anyone's soulmate and not looking at things from that angle or any romantic angle. He's been supporting her and believing her until this last thing, and yes, he absolutely does have enough evidence to believe what he believes. The fact that he's a priest is a huge element in this story. I realize not everyone likes it, but it's adding a whole other level that keeps getting ignored in discussion. They are not a couple and they're not trying to be a couple. We're not to that part of the story. You're talking about how two people in love should respond, and right now, that's not who they are.
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Oct 31 2013, 03:24 PM
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Oct 31 2013, 01:42 PM
Does Anne ever work or is her job to stick her nose in other people's business?
What IS her job???
I think Anne is head of Human Resources. That's how she was able to keep Jeannie T on in a different job when Jennifer fired her. When she first started, Anne's goal was to get rid of Jennifer so she could get the Public Relations job, which she did for a while. As it has gone on and Anne's snark has been well received, her personal dislike of Jennifer -- in Anne's view, the Hospital's Horton Princess -- has overtaken her career goals and now appears to be an end in itself. Anne has it in for Daniel, not only because of Jennifer but also because he helped derail her StripperGate expose intended to impress the hospital superintendent.

So Anne has a semi-legitimate reason to be concerned about nonmedical job performance, which she constantly abuses to get up in everyone's face. I think Anne is a fun character. She's pushing the envelope lately though with Daniel, so she's in danger of getting the comeuppance of all DOOL comic 'villains'.
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GMAB. This woe-is-me act from Nicole is getting SO boring and tedious. Tell Eric off, disown him, and be done with it and start your glorious new life! Eric already said he's not gonna tell anyone.

Eric's lines today and/or GV's acting, whilst normally pretty good, was somehow so off the mark. Traumatized or not, there is no way Eric the man OR Eric the priest would just jump on Nicole like that. It was ike a dummy. He would at least ask questions as in why, when, how, details. There's just no way he would just accept that at face value, especially from some clerk. Bad writing.

LOL @ Marlena's sheer GLEE at finding that flash drive! Oh, you just wait, you're not gonna be laughing for long! Bwahhahaa! She looked great in that pantsuit! Can't wait for Kristen to get there and confront her! Let the fireworks begin!!!

Ah this is getting so good, can't wait! I so would have LOVED to see Kristen get her happy ending, but I'll get all the fireworks I can get!!! BWAH!

Hope, you bitch! She deliberately sent her out of town so she couldn't be at the Bristen wedding! How dare you deny Ciara of her Kristen fangirling when that was the best thing she had going for her! And hated her acting all smug and sanctimonious in front of Brady.

She looked good tho. Bitch!

BWAHHAAH @ Victor's crankiness! Plus didn't you just love it when Mags walked in, demanding to know what was up! I hope Vic cheats on her - with MAR!!!

Can't believe how GOOD Jennifer looked today. LOL! Her hair was fabulous!

Abby looked great in her up-do aswell! Quite becoming! And I love the idea of her staying single right now.

The Daniel/Thereannie schtick is just zzzZZZzzzZZZ.............. Coma alert!
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Oct 31 2013, 01:47 PM
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Oct 31 2013, 01:06 PM
So Nicole discovered JJ and Daniel's secret... :sheep: I bet you she's gonna go tell Jennifer, and then she'll confront JJ for being at Theresa's apartment and Daniel for covering it up! :biggrin:
I don't think so. She's got her own issues right now . . . I'm becoming increasingly more worried that she is going to be the "murder victim" in the spoilers?? :'(

I think Theresa is faking "not remembering" and that she is on to Dr. Dan covering for JJ already and will blackmail him into pretending they're in a relationship w/o revealing it to Jennifer or anyone else OR she'll blow the whistle on JJ about being there that night.
Noooo! Please don't let Nicole be the murder victim. She is the best Days has at the moment. She can't go!
I agree that Theresa is faking it and is going to milk this OD thing for all it's worth. That is all the little shit knows how to do . At least her sight is not on JJ, Dr Dan can take care of himself ...or not.
Ya know, didn't spoilers say there'd be a "cover up"??? If Kristen was murdered by: Sami, Eric, Nicole, Brady, Victor, John (when's he supposed to be back anyway??) or even EJ, I can see that Marlena would cover for any of them if she witnesses the murder. Why EJ? His family holds the key to destroying Will and sending him to prison for shooting EJ and she wouldn't want that to come to light. John would be a twist that we might not even see coming if the "killer" is off camera and we don't actually see John for awhile, but Marlena KNOWS! Of course maybe Marlena wouldn't even see "who" kills her, but comes to and she's been shot to death. That would then throw Marlena's hat in the ring as a suspect. I hope the writers make it suspenseful and intriguing, but I'm not holding my breath or you'll be wondering who killed ME when I fall over dead (hint: the writers!)

And that's all IF Kristen is the murder victim - and we all know, "Dimeras never really die".

With our luck the major character death will be someone non-essential like Gabi and the murderer will be Nick. Ho hum! :drunk:
EJ would never try to kill his sister. That's just ridiculous.

If anything, he's probably gonna help her get out of town.
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SWEEPS STARTED TODAY BTW!!! YAY :cheer: :) :)
Edited by Yoryla, Oct 31 2013, 05:43 PM.
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Oct 31 2013, 05:29 PM
Hope, you bitch! She deliberately sent her out of town so she couldn't be at the Bristen wedding! How dare you deny Ciara of her Kristen fangirling when that was the best thing she had going for her! And hated her acting all smug and sanctimonious in front of Brady.
That's not quite true. Hope told Brady that Doug & Julie taking Ciara to NYC to see Matilda was a trip that had been planned for ages. And Brady himself said that the wedding was last-minute. Hope has NEVER been a fan of Kristen's, and it would've been stupid for her to start being pro-Bristen now. She's got every right to be afraid that her daughter is idolizing a woman that has put John & Marlena through hell, and even paid someone to attack Brady. Hope does hope, for Brady's sake, that things work out between them because she does genuinely want Brady to be happy.
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Nicole and Eric are awesome, but I really do feel bad for both of them here! Such emotional scenes though.

Brady's totally not going to end up well here.

Poor Theresa. All OD'd and not one family member who cares enough to visit her.
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