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Monday, November 4th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 4 2013, 12:27 AM (14,527 Views)
Laufeyson
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I am not at all surprised by the turn of events in the JJ/Daniel saga. I saw this coming (as many of others have) during the time we were posting auditions. I just didn't know they'd Use the Jack/Kayla rape to do it.
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Romancer66


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Nov 4 2013, 02:38 PM
NocturnalBlondie
Nov 4 2013, 02:29 PM
JJ to Daniel: "I can see now that I was totally wrong about you."

Well most of us called it... I knew this was happening the minute we heard about the rape being revisited. It was a plot point to lead JJ to disown Jack, and praise Daniel as Salem's Messiah. Maybe to some, we were seen as ridiculous, but this show is way too predictable and I saw it coming a mile away.
Well, if it's any consolation, the price of getting JJ to like him is half the town turning on him and losing his glorious reputation.
Only to do a 180 when it comes out that Daniel is covering for JJ, I'm sure. Then everyone will be back to kissing Dr. Douche's greasy ass and praising him to the skies once more. Well, JJ's loyalty to Jack and his refusal to hop on the pro-Daniel wagon were nice while they lasted. But now that he's repudiated his father and consigned him to hell for something that happened more than 25 years ago (which had nothing to do with him and for which the sinner genuinely tried to atone), there's nothing to prevent his accepting Daniel the Perfect as his replacement father. Should Fetch marry, I have little doubt that JJ Deveraux will want to change his name to JJ Jonas in honor of his new stepdad. And I'm sure that A Very Jonas Christmas awaits us this December with Daniel celebrating the holidays with the family he was handed on a platter. How heartwarming. :sarcasm: (I would love to be wrong in this case, but TomSell's pretty much confirmed my worst expectations across the board.) God help us, every one.
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SoapGal1
Nov 4 2013, 01:40 PM
lysie
Nov 4 2013, 01:39 PM
Remember at the last Bristen reveal when Marlena was wearing clogs? Just a memory. A bad memory.
Marlena needs a "What Not to Wear" intervention in the worst way.
I don't understand how she has a closet full of ugly stuff, when she doesn't even have a living room or a bedroom. Or a kitchen.
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lysie
Nov 4 2013, 01:44 PM
Daniel, you don't even know who your dad is.
He doesn't need to. An obsessive mother is enough for one ding dong. Ask Lucas.
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fenderbabe
Nov 4 2013, 02:17 PM
Nicole and Eric were by far the best part of today's show. Are they always this powerful? I don't watch as often as I'd like, but it's a shame how two actors with such great chemistry got stuck into an impossible storyline. Their eye contact gets INTENSE.

How the hell is Daniel still on this show?

Lord help me, I enjoyed Marlena and Victor, too. Probably because of Victor, and it's always funny when Days tries to explain technology. Bonus points to Victor for pointing out how absurd the Jenn/Kristen friendship is, even for a soap opera.

Jordan can have Rafe. They're cute, and Kate can do without this storyline. Seriously, they should bring back Victor Webster and pair him with LK again. Who do I bribe to make this happen?
The problem is not Kate can do without this story.it the writers insist writing these stuff.it same crap with Daniel Kate had problem tell Daniel how she feel like she does now with rafe while the guy she wants start fall in someone else while Kate turn out to be crazy and angst for that couple
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six
Nov 4 2013, 01:48 PM
I love that Marlena is connecting her thoughts to Daniel being w/Kristen to the rumor about Dan/Theresa.
It's nice when they have a brain, isn't it?

Marlena's also seen Daniel hit on anyone with a pulse, so...
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Nov 4 2013, 03:04 PM
six
Nov 4 2013, 01:48 PM
I love that Marlena is connecting her thoughts to Daniel being w/Kristen to the rumor about Dan/Theresa.
It's nice when they have a brain, isn't it?

Marlena's also seen Daniel hit on anyone with a pulse, so...
Marlena has also ran into Kristen in Daniel's office.
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For the most part this was a building block episode ... building to the big reveal at the Bristen wedding.

Yes we all knew that JJ would change his tune about Daniel at some point. I'm not averse to it as it's a growing point for JJ. Even though JJ may have changed his tune about Daniel I still don't see Dan and Jen getting back together any time soon. I'm very curious as to what Theresa is going to do next.

I found Marlena to be a touch overdramatic today ... LOL! The way she pulled out that flashdrive from her laptop one would have thought it was a ticking time bomb!

Eric, Eric, Eric ... you are going to have to grovel for a long, long time ... just saying ...

I liked Rafe and Jordan - just nice relaxing fun scenes. Kate is just getting to be too possessive for my taste.
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lysie


I think that JJ hating Daniel is the best thing that ever happened to Dannifer, and I hope at some point he hates him again. But I think his turn around was appropriate, if annoying. Technically, JJ WAS wrong about Daniel. I like JJ and find Daniel to be irrelevant set decoration, but JJ was still wrong. Maybe now he'll come up with a real reason to hate him.
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PatNS
Nov 4 2013, 03:13 PM
For the most part this was a building block episode ... building to the big reveal at the Bristen wedding.

Yes we all knew that JJ would change his tune about Daniel at some point. I'm not averse to it as it's a growing point for JJ. Even though JJ may have changed his tune about Daniel I still don't see Dan and Jen getting back together any time soon. I'm very curious as to what Theresa is going to do next.

I found Marlena to be a touch overdramatic today ... LOL! The way she pulled out that flashdrive from her laptop one would have thought it was a ticking time bomb!

Eric, Eric, Eric ... you are going to have to grovel for a long, long time ... just saying ...

I liked Rafe and Jordan - just nice relaxing fun scenes. Kate is just getting to be too possessive for my taste.
I'm actually glad that this seems very likely.
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Starr


For the first time in my life, I'm LOVING Victor these days. He's mellowed, yet still ruthlessly protects those dear to him.

I loved the dress on Nicole today. I liked that she had her say to Eric and told him to get out. I don't know abour Eric. I actually don't care for him right now.

The Daniel and JJ scene nearly brought me to tears. Okay, this is my opinion, and nobody has to agree with it. After JJ found out about his father, it helped -- a lot. But he still continued to use drugs. It was when Dr. Jonas stuck up and covered for him, with great suffering (due to Jennifer). I don't like Dr. Jonas with Jennifer, but I like that JJ came around, and they shook hands. But of course we all know that Jennifer will end up with Dr. Jonas (I think). And JJ might still go back to using drugs, so I don't know about that yet.

I really, really love Jordan for Rafe -- and he likes her, too. Their scenes today were fun to watch. They would make a great, fun couple. I still wonder what the damaging (?) results about her were, which Kate found out from her source.

And lastly, I'm truly looking forward to Kristen gettting found out. I can't wait!
Edited by Starr, Nov 4 2013, 03:42 PM.
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That reaveal that Jack raped did not make JJ accepted Daniel but the reveal lead to chain of events that cause JJ accept Daniel.when JJ find on his father he smash the display that had his father stuff and this the reason why JJ could not bring Teresa to the hospital and need Daniel help
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Salem
Nov 4 2013, 01:34 PM
JJ/Daniel is so the new Will/EJ minus the luxury apartment and nice car
I knew I hated them for reason
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So now lucas is the only Daniel hater even Anne gush how hot Daniel is
Edited by Partnersincrime, Nov 5 2013, 01:59 AM.
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Marlene


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Nov 4 2013, 02:33 PM
Marlene
Nov 4 2013, 02:28 PM
I've just read through this entire thread. Won't be able to watch until tonight or tomorrow. The best thing, as I see it so far, is that this thread is 12 PAGES LONG.

Wow, when's the last time that happened before 2:30 eastern?
i'm guessing you're asking when the last time was but not counting the Muppets matching day?!


Absolutely :D
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I was cracking up about how everyone thinks Daniel is sleeping around with Kristin, Teresa, and Nicole. He can't even have a conversation with a woman without them all thinking he's sleeping with them
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Mitchapalooza
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Matt
Nov 4 2013, 01:35 PM
JJ to Daniel: "I can see now that I was totally wrong about you." SHOOT ME NOW!
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^ My face watching DAYS

NocturnalBlondie
Nov 4 2013, 02:29 PM
JJ to Daniel: "I can see now that I was totally wrong about you."

Well most of us called it... I knew this was happening the minute we heard about the rape being revisited. It was a plot point to lead JJ to disown Jack, and praise Daniel as Salem's Messiah. Maybe to some, we were seen as ridiculous, but this show is way too predictable and I saw it coming a mile away.
I knew we would be proven right....it's the ultimate slap in the face TBH from this regime.
Edited by Mitchapalooza, Nov 4 2013, 04:24 PM.
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NocturnalBlondie
Nov 4 2013, 02:51 PM
lysie
Nov 4 2013, 02:46 PM
NocturnalBlondie
Nov 4 2013, 02:44 PM
Okay, clearly there's a miscommunication here. I'm not saying JJ loves Daniel because of the rape reveal. I'm saying Tomlin's motivation behind pursuing the rape thing was clearly to use it as a plot point that would unravel a chain of events (meaning JJ's breakdown, rebellion with Jennifer, being reckless until Theresa's OD) that would lead to JJ's appraisal of Daniel. There is a difference.

And people's problem with the rape revisit (for the most part) was not the actual revisit, but how it would be used... as a plot point that would lead JJ to praise Daniel. And it has. I have no problem with the writers wanting to revisit the rape thing, I have a problem with the reason behind wanting to pursue it, which I feared would be agenda based... and it is.
No miscommunication. I just don't agree.
My post was directed at this particular statement: "No kidding. JJ clearly still hated Daniel after he found out about Jack." which implies that I am insinuating JJ's appraisal of Daniel is directly correlated to the rape reveal, which is not what I was saying at all. I was talking about TPTB's intention of pursuing the rape reveal as a plot point, which they would use to develop events that would lead to JJ's eventual acceptance of Daniel.

Anyway, I don't care. I don't agree with what you have to say, and you don't agree with what I have to say. Nothing's going to change that. I've said what I had to say.
Well, gee, you should have said you were talking to me. :)

And no, there was no misunderstanding. I just don't agree with the premise.
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Really enjoyed the whole episode and all the interactions for a change. Carolyn wrote a terrific script.

Marlena's glee in delivering the supposed lost flash drive to Victor was great. Loved them considering whether they should watch it as it might be damaging to see who Kristen bedded. This match up has been fun and a refreshing twist. The fall out is going to be very interesting to watch as well.

Can my heart go out to Nicole any more than it already has? Yes. Instead of being redundant and tired the Nicole and Eric confrontation kept delivering. The best of intense soap moments. Can't wait to see the reveal and Eric dealing with these accusations against Nicole.

Rafe and Jordan were perfectly played! The cute football banter and teasing struggle over the last cookie were just the light touch the start of this relationship needed. I agree that this slow build was the way to go and I find myself enjoying them more and more each time they are on.

Kate's got the goods! I like the mystery door to Jordan's past is being cracked ajar.

Not much of a Daniel fan due to his saintly status and being an air-hog, but I liked today as he and JJ reached this new stage. I like that Daniel's putting JJ ahead of his relationship for a change. I also felt as though it were time for JJ's character to show another side to give him more development. JJ needed to stretch out. I certainly hope this isn't the end of his personal struggles concerning his father though. And I'm really curious to see what happens when Theresa is up and running.

Hope and Rafe have always had a very compatible vibe. The friendship definitely reads authentic for me. I really enjoyed them having this exchange and especially Hope being shown intuitive to Rafe's situation with his women. Nicely done! Looking forward to her hopefully giving him some guidance in the future...and Rafe doing the same for Hope.
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