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Wednesday, November 6th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 6 2013, 02:25 AM (17,523 Views)
Rosebud
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Nov 6 2013, 03:49 PM
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This top does not do AS any favors, IMO.
Is it still summer in Salem?
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KAM


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Nov 6 2013, 04:14 PM
Keith
Nov 6 2013, 01:47 PM
It would be way too much to ask, but can the show remember that Marlena was raped?
That would put Marlena in focus, for a second... so no.
It's very sad, but I don't think DOOL has enough air time to be fair to all the women it has turned into rape victims over the years. :( If Salem University Hospital ever held a rape survivors meeting, you know what they'd have to say: "We're gonna need a bigger room."
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Nov 6 2013, 03:56 PM
Supergirlx2
Nov 6 2013, 03:49 PM
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This top does not do AS any favors, IMO.
I was thinking her hair had something against her.
Her hair is terrible. Why doesn't she get an adult hair cut?
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Loved Marlena's suit today. She looked beautiful.

I can tell once it's hit the fan at the wedding, things are going to be rocky between Marlena and Eric, and Eric and Brady. And Greg is killing this story line.

I actually liked Dan today. I find I don't mind his character so much as long as there isn't the heavy propping and he is away from Jennifer. For some reason, there just isn't good chemistry between SC and MR---when they are together they just suck all the energy out of the scene.

Yeah, there was a lot of OTT in the Kristen and EJ scenes, but they are DiMeras so I'm fine with it.

When Sami mentioned getting ready for the wedding I had a moment of dread. I think Sami is going to forget that Halloween was a few days ago. Speaking of Halloween, I wish we got to see or hear about what the kids on the show dressed up as.
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Rosebud
Nov 6 2013, 05:01 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:49 PM
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This top does not do AS any favors, IMO.
Is it still summer in Salem?
No, but it was summer when they filmed this.
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Nov 6 2013, 03:56 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:48 PM
EJ not spilling to Sami was the biggest WTF moment to me. I got a bit of whiplash watching that. Over the last year they have shown EJ to put Sami first in every situation - even if it meant going to jail for her or kissing Stefano's ring. Now he's choosing to keep mum about what Kristen did? Doesn't jive. Maybe the EJ of 2 or 3 yrs ago. It was a stupid plot point. I'm guessing they will go with, EJ keeping a secret from Sami, and it coming to light at their wedding and Sami leaving EJ? I've never seen that story before. Although who will they have Sami bounce to this time? Rafe will clearly be baking cookies with Jordan. Maybe Lucas again? Freaking Corday. He doesn't understand EJ / Ejami's popularity and only like EJ as the bad guy. His lack of vision is nothing short of spectacular... Grey doesn't play in his world..
I don't think we have to worry about this lie stopping an Ejami wedding, because i think the wedding will be put on hold when Sami finds out EJ lied to her. The writers are going to put off any possible Ejami wedding as long as they can.

It is kind of a dumb plot point, though. For once, EJ has nothing to gain and everything to lose by lying, so why would he do it. He doesn't have that much loyalty to Kristen.
His lying neither surprises me or bothers me. He's the kind of guy that just thinks it's just not worth telling Sami. He thinks Kristen has it under control and why expose what she did and make trouble....
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Yoryla
Nov 6 2013, 04:54 PM
Rosebud
Nov 6 2013, 04:35 PM
KAM
Nov 6 2013, 02:33 PM
Mitchapalooza
Nov 6 2013, 02:07 PM
So is Victor going to tell MareLAHna that Eric is the guy in the video?
Victor Keereeakis on a Kristen destruction mission. Eric is unavoidable collateral damage. :(
I wonder if Victor knows Eric was drugged and raped or if he'll justify playing the DVD thinking Eric is a religious hypocrite?
The latter, I'm sure. I don't think Victor could have any idea that Eric wouldn't be doing this willingly, especially since it looks totally like it. There was no evidence on the video of anything other except them going at it.
I agree. Victor's pretty ruthless, but there are some lines I think he'd draw. If he knew it was rape, I think he'd find a way to show it to Brady or Eric privately -- not in front of Eric's boss.
Edited by Ophelia, Nov 6 2013, 05:12 PM.
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KAM
Nov 6 2013, 05:02 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 04:14 PM
Keith
Nov 6 2013, 01:47 PM
It would be way too much to ask, but can the show remember that Marlena was raped?
That would put Marlena in focus, for a second... so no.
It's very sad, but I don't think DOOL has enough air time to be fair to all the women it has turned into rape victims over the years. :( If Salem University Hospital ever held a rape survivors meeting, you know what they'd have to say: "We're gonna need a bigger room."
I can't think of any women on the show that haven't been raped or been the victim of an attempted rape.
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Nov 6 2013, 04:48 PM
Rosebud
Nov 6 2013, 04:35 PM
KAM
Nov 6 2013, 02:33 PM
Mitchapalooza
Nov 6 2013, 02:07 PM
So is Victor going to tell MareLAHna that Eric is the guy in the video?
Victor Keereeakis on a Kristen destruction mission. Eric is unavoidable collateral damage. :(
I wonder if Victor knows Eric was drugged and raped or if he'll justify playing the DVD thinking Eric is a religious hypocrite?
I'm not sure how it will play out with Victor. Despite my post, I still think it's possible that Big Bad Victor could grow a conscience and that the video plays at the wedding because Bozo Brady picks it up by mistake and takes it to the church. Actually, I hope that's what happens. I really liked Team MarVic.
That would be great!
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Nov 6 2013, 05:08 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:02 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 04:14 PM
Keith
Nov 6 2013, 01:47 PM
It would be way too much to ask, but can the show remember that Marlena was raped?
That would put Marlena in focus, for a second... so no.
It's very sad, but I don't think DOOL has enough air time to be fair to all the women it has turned into rape victims over the years. :( If Salem University Hospital ever held a rape survivors meeting, you know what they'd have to say: "We're gonna need a bigger room."
I can't think of any women on the show that haven't been raped or been the victim of an attempted rape.
Yes, I believe that by force, duress, mind control or imposture DOOL has involuntarily imposed unchosen sexual partners on all its younger female stars. That's been writers' fall back position when they run dry on story lines for a very long time. :glare:
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KAM
Nov 6 2013, 03:00 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 02:06 PM
Victor's face was priceless! :blulaugh:

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LMAO. He looked like he was getting a hard-on there for a minute. Until he saw Eric's face.
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Nov 6 2013, 04:52 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 04:11 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 01:31 PM
EJ and Sami are both rapists. Kristen is a two-time rapist. No one had a right to judge.
They should start a club.
and maybe they will commiserate together on the what if's.
They could each stand up and give testimonials...

Sami: Hi my name is Sami and I raped my sister's boyfriend. It turned out to be a perfect way to keep everyone in the dark about Will's paternity for years and years. So, it's all good!

Elvis: Hi my name is Elvis. I raped the love of my life because I'm a DiMera. And it's all good because she loves what a bad boy I am. We are two rapists in love. (Wipes tear away)

Kristen: hi my name is Kristen and I raped two men. John Black and His stepson Eric. I could say I did it because I'm a DiMera, but I'm really not one. I'll just say what I always say...

She pulls a big feather boa out if her pocket and wraps it around her neck and breaks into song...

Kiss today goodbye
The sweetness and the sorrow
Wish me luck, the same to you
But I can't regret what I did for love, what I did for love

Look, my eyes are dry
The gift was ours to borrow
Oh, it's as if we always knew
And I won't forget what I did for love, what I did for love

Gone
Love is never gone
As we travel on
Love's what we'll remember

Kiss today goodbye
And point me toward tomorrow
We did what we had to do
Won't forget, can't regret what I did for love

What I did for love
What I did for love

Oh, love is never gone
As we travel on
Love's what we'll remember

Kiss today goodbye
And point me toward tomorrow
We did what we had to do
Won't forget, can't regret what I did for love

What I did for love
What I did for love
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Nov 6 2013, 05:06 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:56 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:48 PM
EJ not spilling to Sami was the biggest WTF moment to me. I got a bit of whiplash watching that. Over the last year they have shown EJ to put Sami first in every situation - even if it meant going to jail for her or kissing Stefano's ring. Now he's choosing to keep mum about what Kristen did? Doesn't jive. Maybe the EJ of 2 or 3 yrs ago. It was a stupid plot point. I'm guessing they will go with, EJ keeping a secret from Sami, and it coming to light at their wedding and Sami leaving EJ? I've never seen that story before. Although who will they have Sami bounce to this time? Rafe will clearly be baking cookies with Jordan. Maybe Lucas again? Freaking Corday. He doesn't understand EJ / Ejami's popularity and only like EJ as the bad guy. His lack of vision is nothing short of spectacular... Grey doesn't play in his world..
I don't think we have to worry about this lie stopping an Ejami wedding, because i think the wedding will be put on hold when Sami finds out EJ lied to her. The writers are going to put off any possible Ejami wedding as long as they can.

It is kind of a dumb plot point, though. For once, EJ has nothing to gain and everything to lose by lying, so why would he do it. He doesn't have that much loyalty to Kristen.
His lying neither surprises me or bothers me. He's the kind of guy that just thinks it's just not worth telling Sami. He thinks Kristen has it under control and why expose what she did and make trouble....
His lying to Sami about Eric should be what ultimately ends Ejami. If Sami has any loyalty to Eric she needs to do a lot more than just kick EJ out of her bed. Not only does he know that Kristen drugged and raped Eric but that she's planning on drugging him again. And he's keeping it from her. This is Sami's twin brother. To keep that knowledge to himself for any reason is unforgivable. Of course EJ's done plenty of unforgivable things to Sami in the past. But this is not just about Sami. If she has any respect for Eric or herself she would end things with EJ permanently. She keeps saying how he's changed, well this should prove to her that he hasn't and he never will.

And yes I know it's in character for EJ to put his family first, I just think it's about time Sami started doing the same.
Edited by LanaluvsBroe, Nov 6 2013, 05:43 PM.
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KAM
Nov 6 2013, 05:02 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 04:14 PM
Keith
Nov 6 2013, 01:47 PM
It would be way too much to ask, but can the show remember that Marlena was raped?
That would put Marlena in focus, for a second... so no.
It's very sad, but I don't think DOOL has enough air time to be fair to all the women it has turned into rape victims over the years. :( If Salem University Hospital ever held a rape survivors meeting, you know what they'd have to say: "We're gonna need a bigger room."
They did once. In the 80s. When rape was still handled as the devastating, life ruining thing that it is.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

I personally don't think it's so OOC for Ej to chose to align himself with a Dimera after he's promised the moon and the stars and even left Stefano for Sami. It's actually in his history to chose His Dimera side with no rhyme or reason after he has gotten real close to Sami... I think the show wants to show that no matter how much Ej says that he's a different man, that his Dimeraness will always win out, even over Sami.
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Yoryla
Nov 6 2013, 04:41 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 02:54 PM
six
Nov 6 2013, 02:41 PM
Although the ejami stuff was a cop out. There's no way EJ would keep Kristen's secret. What's in it for him?
Yeah, they haven't made them close enough for me to buy that EJ would risk his relationship with Sami just to protect loony Kristen. But if this leads to a legit angst story (i.e. not resolved in a couple episodes) for Ejami, then I'm wiling to pretend it makes sense.
Disagree. Kristen's his sister, his family, an it's always been a DiMera thing and for EJ to have family loyalty. In the end, that's basically what a person has. He would be pretty stupid to throw that all away. Also, just because he's chosen to be with Sami doesn't mean he has to throw everything else away. He still has a right to have siblings and be loyal to them also.

Furthermore, if the shoe was on the other foot, Kristen would SO keep EJ's secret, without question.
Kristen would throw EJ under the bus in a heartbeat to keep Brady. She had no issue doing the same thing to Stefano to keep John. EJ would keep Lexie's secret,i believe, but they actually had a bond that went deeper than having the same last name.

I see someone mentioned that EJ has chosen the Dimeras over Sami before. When?
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LanaluvsBroe
Nov 6 2013, 05:41 PM
Rosebud
Nov 6 2013, 05:06 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:56 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:48 PM
EJ not spilling to Sami was the b.iggest WTF moment to me. I got a bit of whiplash watching that. Over the last year they have shown EJ to put Sami first in every situation - even if it meant going to jail for her or kissing Stefano's ring. Now he's choosing to keep mum about what Kristen did? Doesn't jive. Maybe the EJ of 2 or 3 yrs ago. It was a stupid plot point. I'm guessing they will go with, EJ keeping a secret from Sami, and it coming to light at their wedding and Sami leaving EJ? I've never seen that story before. Although who will they have Sami bounce to this time? Rafe will clearly be baking cookies with Jordan. Maybe Lucas again? Freaking Corday. He doesn't understand EJ / Ejami's popularity and only like EJ as the bad guy. His lack of vision is nothing short of spectacular... Grey doesn't play in his world..
I don't think we have to worry about this lie stopping an Ejami wedding, because i think the wedding will be put on hold when Sami finds out EJ lied to her. The writers are going to put off any possible Ejami wedding as long as they can.

It is kind of a dumb plot point, though. For once, EJ has nothing to gain and everything to lose by lying, so why would he do it. He doesn't have that much loyalty to Kristen.
His lying neither surprises me or bothers me. He's the kind of guy that just thinks it's just not worth telling Sami. He thinks Kristen has it under control and why expose what she did and make trouble....
His lying to Sami about Eric should be what ultimately ends Ejami. If Sami has any loyalty to Eric she needs to do a lot more than just kick EJ out of her bed. Not only does he know that Kristen drugged and raped Eric but that she's planning on drugging him again. And he's keeping it from her. This is Sami's twin brother. To keep that knowledge to himself for any reason is unforgivable. Of course EJ's done plenty of unforgivable things to Sami in the past. But this is not just about Sami. If she has any respect for Eric or herself she would end things with EJ permanently. She keeps saying how he's changed, well this should prove to her that he hasn't and he never will.

And yes I know it's in character for EJ to put his family first, I just think it's about time Sami started doing the same.
If Sami had ever put her family first, she wouldn't be with Elvis Demira or living in the Dimansion. I hope she gets to eat her words that EJ is a changed man when she finds out about his lie. I always said Sami would never accept the Demira ways, her family is their number one enemy.
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I really enjoy scenes with Sonny and Sami. He has no qualms with telling it like it is and confronting her with her "reputation", and she lets him. I LOVE that he made her show him the text so he could make sure it said exactly what she said it did.

The one thing I didn't like was, as much as I knew there wasn't a chance in hell, I was hoping that by some miracle, the writers would remember that Sonny and Brady are family so Sonny might be at the wedding. It's like they haven't even met each other. I remember when Kristin and Brady went to the club opening because it was Chad's club and, in Brady's words "He's the easiest guy in your family to support so family first". No mention that Sonny, the other owner of th club, is Brady's cousin. I could be wrong, but I believe it's been over 2 years since the two of them have even spoken to each other and that was when Sonny and Chad were trying to stop EJ and Brady from killing each other. Actually, I think that is the only time they've ever spoken. For a show that's so family oriented, that is absolutely ridiculous.
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LanaluvsBroe
Nov 6 2013, 05:41 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:06 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:56 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:48 PM
EJ not spilling to Sami was the biggest WTF moment to me. I got a bit of whiplash watching that. Over the last year they have shown EJ to put Sami first in every situation - even if it meant going to jail for her or kissing Stefano's ring. Now he's choosing to keep mum about what Kristen did? Doesn't jive. Maybe the EJ of 2 or 3 yrs ago. It was a stupid plot point. I'm guessing they will go with, EJ keeping a secret from Sami, and it coming to light at their wedding and Sami leaving EJ? I've never seen that story before. Although who will they have Sami bounce to this time? Rafe will clearly be baking cookies with Jordan. Maybe Lucas again? Freaking Corday. He doesn't understand EJ / Ejami's popularity and only like EJ as the bad guy. His lack of vision is nothing short of spectacular... Grey doesn't play in his world..
I don't think we have to worry about this lie stopping an Ejami wedding, because i think the wedding will be put on hold when Sami finds out EJ lied to her. The writers are going to put off any possible Ejami wedding as long as they can.

It is kind of a dumb plot point, though. For once, EJ has nothing to gain and everything to lose by lying, so why would he do it. He doesn't have that much loyalty to Kristen.
His lying neither surprises me or bothers me. He's the kind of guy that just thinks it's just not worth telling Sami. He thinks Kristen has it under control and why expose what she did and make trouble....
His lying to Sami about Eric should be what ultimately ends Ejami. If Sami has any loyalty to Eric she needs to do a lot more than just kick EJ out of her bed. Not only does he know that Kristen drugged and raped Eric but that she's planning on drugging him again. And he's keeping it from her. This is Sami's twin brother. To keep that knowledge to himself for any reason is unforgivable. Of course EJ's done plenty of unforgivable things to Sami in the past. But this is not just about Sami. If she has any respect for Eric or herself she would end things with EJ permanently. She keeps saying how he's changed, well this should prove to her that he hasn't and he never will.

And yes I know it's in character for EJ to put his family first, I just think it's about time Sami started doing the same.
There is a lot of things that Sami should not be doing, but yet she is doing it. So, she will get over EJ lying soon enough, and will be back having sex with him in no time. In the meantime she will make the appropriate noise, scream, shout etc. During this time EJ will do his usual to get her to submit to him, and she will. Then it will be back to normal for them until next time. This is just EJami angst. If Sami had any self respect in the first place she would not be with EJ, and she would not be living so willingly in the Dimera Mansion. So I am betting the EJ and Sami wedding is more likely to happen than not. Can't take her seriously, and she should stop criticising people for doing the exact same thing that she herself is doing. Stupid woman.
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Nov 6 2013, 06:12 PM
I really enjoy scenes with Sonny and Sami. He has no qualms with telling it like it is and confronting her with her "reputation", and she lets him. I LOVE that he made her show him the text so he could make sure it said exactly what she said it did.

The one thing I didn't like was, as much as I knew there wasn't a chance in hell, I was hoping that by some miracle, the writers would remember that Sonny and Brady are family so Sonny might be at the wedding. It's like they haven't even met each other. I remember when Kristin and Brady went to the club opening because it was Chad's club and, in Brady's words "He's the easiest guy in your family to support so family first". No mention that Sonny, the other owner of th club, is Brady's cousin. I could be wrong, but I believe it's been over 2 years since the two of them have even spoken to each other and that was when Sonny and Chad were trying to stop EJ and Brady from killing each other. Actually, I think that is the only time they've ever spoken. For a show that's so family oriented, that is absolutely ridiculous.
The show tends to do a horrible job at times with remembering who is related and should be sharing scenes. I'm not even sure if Carrie and Brady shared a scene while she was back during the MarDar era.
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