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Wednesday, November 6th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 6 2013, 02:25 AM (17,522 Views)
JamaicanBeauty7
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Matt
Nov 6 2013, 01:37 PM
Now I need for Kristen to lock EJ in the secret room to keep him from ruining the wedding....
OMG, I would have LOVED THIS! Damnit, writers!
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Kinay
Nov 6 2013, 06:09 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:41 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:06 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:56 PM

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His lying neither surprises me or bothers me. He's the kind of guy that just thinks it's just not worth telling Sami. He thinks Kristen has it under control and why expose what she did and make trouble....
His lying to Sami about Eric should be what ultimately ends Ejami. If Sami has any loyalty to Eric she needs to do a lot more than just kick EJ out of her bed. Not only does he know that Kristen drugged and raped Eric but that she's planning on drugging him again. And he's keeping it from her. This is Sami's twin brother. To keep that knowledge to himself for any reason is unforgivable. Of course EJ's done plenty of unforgivable things to Sami in the past. But this is not just about Sami. If she has any respect for Eric or herself she would end things with EJ permanently. She keeps saying how he's changed, well this should prove to her that he hasn't and he never will.

And yes I know it's in character for EJ to put his family first, I just think it's about time Sami started doing the same.
If Sami had ever put her family first, she wouldn't be with Elvis Demira or living in the Dimansion. I hope she gets to eat her words that EJ is a changed man when she finds out about his lie. I always said Sami would never accept the Demira ways, her family is their number one enemy.
Two things, when has EJ ever put the Dimeras over Sami? and EJ lying does not take away from him being a changed man. His disgust and upset with Kristen alone shows that IMO and throw in Kristen's little veiled threat of she is not going to stand by and allow him to ruin her wedding, its not a simple matter of choosing Kristen over anyone but more so leaving well enough alone and hoping it remains buried.
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JillianJ
Nov 6 2013, 03:58 PM
Vicky4Mimi
Nov 6 2013, 03:28 PM
tomsawyer
Nov 6 2013, 03:08 PM
LuvingLumi
Nov 6 2013, 02:59 PM

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Nothing really. She "forced" him to lie the same way EJ "blackmailed" Lucas last week, LOL.

She kinda played the DiMera loyalty card and made some generic threats, but there was nothing she did that felt like EJ was forced to keep her secret. It was definitely his choice IMO.
I didn't even see or hear the Dimera card played! Now, I was dusting at the time and might have missed something important :blah: but it just looked like EJ made the choice that blood (even adopted blood) was thicker than water and blew Sami off. Oddest thing ever. I can't wait to see what he does when Kristen is gone! He could clear things up for Eric!

I did however enjoy his brief concern for Nicole today though. :blowkiss:

Maybe he figures that once Nicole is off the hook, nothing that he knows needs to be added to the story?
'I don't give a damn about Nicole' = concern

:lol: he certainly has an odd way of showing it :blulaugh:


Those ED and JS scenes were really great, EJ was near ready to pop a vein and while him keeping it a secret is not his normal reaction, I will bite because of the angst it can bring for EJAMI :popcorn:
no, you were quoting EJ's reaction to Kristen asking when did he start caring about Nicole. He protested too much there. His first reaction to hearing Nicole was being set up to take the fall for Kristen was what I was talking about--and yes he did take a moment to defend his ex.

It was a brief, cute, little semi EJOLE moment..and I will take it.

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Hi everyone. I just wanted to thank you some of you for my birthday respond. You all made my day and I'm glad to be part of this site to make conversation with you guys. You guys really made my day. Thank you! Now talk about the show. Kristen and EJ were fantastic. Brady and victor was good and I love how much victor loves brady and i can't wait to see on brady's face when the truth comes out. Daniel and nicole were a filler not that I don't like nicole, but i wish on my birthday I didn't have daniel on screen to ruined my day. Marlina and nicole were good too. Over all the days was on fire and i enjoyed every minute of it minus dr tan. Again thank you all to be the best and wonderful. :):):)
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Vicky4Mimi
Nov 6 2013, 06:21 PM
JillianJ
Nov 6 2013, 03:58 PM
Vicky4Mimi
Nov 6 2013, 03:28 PM
tomsawyer
Nov 6 2013, 03:08 PM

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I didn't even see or hear the Dimera card played! Now, I was dusting at the time and might have missed something important :blah: but it just looked like EJ made the choice that blood (even adopted blood) was thicker than water and blew Sami off. Oddest thing ever. I can't wait to see what he does when Kristen is gone! He could clear things up for Eric!

I did however enjoy his brief concern for Nicole today though. :blowkiss:

Maybe he figures that once Nicole is off the hook, nothing that he knows needs to be added to the story?
'I don't give a damn about Nicole' = concern

:lol: he certainly has an odd way of showing it :blulaugh:


Those ED and JS scenes were really great, EJ was near ready to pop a vein and while him keeping it a secret is not his normal reaction, I will bite because of the angst it can bring for EJAMI :popcorn:
no, you were quoting EJ's reaction to Kristen asking when did he start caring about Nicole. He protested too much there. His first reaction to hearing Nicole was being set up to take the fall for Kristen was what I was talking about--and yes he did take a moment to defend his ex.

It was a brief, cute, little semi EJOLE moment..and I will take it.

Yeah, that was even less, he doesn't care :lol: notice even when her name came up again, it wasn't about 'poor Nicole taking the blame' but I know what it is like to need to cling to things, so to each their own I suppose.
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Nov 6 2013, 06:13 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:41 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:06 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 03:56 PM

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His lying neither surprises me or bothers me. He's the kind of guy that just thinks it's just not worth telling Sami. He thinks Kristen has it under control and why expose what she did and make trouble....
His lying to Sami about Eric should be what ultimately ends Ejami. If Sami has any loyalty to Eric she needs to do a lot more than just kick EJ out of her bed. Not only does he know that Kristen drugged and raped Eric but that she's planning on drugging him again. And he's keeping it from her. This is Sami's twin brother. To keep that knowledge to himself for any reason is unforgivable. Of course EJ's done plenty of unforgivable things to Sami in the past. But this is not just about Sami. If she has any respect for Eric or herself she would end things with EJ permanently. She keeps saying how he's changed, well this should prove to her that he hasn't and he never will.

And yes I know it's in character for EJ to put his family first, I just think it's about time Sami started doing the same.
There is a lot of things that Sami should not be doing, but yet she is doing it. So, she will get over EJ lying soon enough, and will be back having sex with him in no time. In the meantime she will make the appropriate noise, scream, shout etc. During this time EJ will do his usual to get her to submit to him, and she will. Then it will be back to normal for them until next time. This is just EJami angst. If Sami had any self respect in the first place she would not be with EJ, and she would not be living so willingly in the Dimera Mansion. So I am betting the EJ and Sami wedding is more likely to happen than not. Can't take her seriously, and she should stop criticising people for doing the exact same thing that she herself is doing. Stupid woman.
I agree, this is most likely not what will break them up , but there will be other lies and dangerous situations where Sami will have no choice but to rethink her decision to live the Demira life.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

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Nov 6 2013, 06:00 PM
Yoryla
Nov 6 2013, 04:41 PM
tomsawyer
Nov 6 2013, 02:54 PM
six
Nov 6 2013, 02:41 PM
Although the ejami stuff was a cop out. There's no way EJ would keep Kristen's secret. What's in it for him?
Yeah, they haven't made them close enough for me to buy that EJ would risk his relationship with Sami just to protect loony Kristen. But if this leads to a legit angst story (i.e. not resolved in a couple episodes) for Ejami, then I'm wiling to pretend it makes sense.
Disagree. Kristen's his sister, his family, an it's always been a DiMera thing and for EJ to have family loyalty. In the end, that's basically what a person has. He would be pretty stupid to throw that all away. Also, just because he's chosen to be with Sami doesn't mean he has to throw everything else away. He still has a right to have siblings and be loyal to them also.

Furthermore, if the shoe was on the other foot, Kristen would SO keep EJ's secret, without question.
Kristen would throw EJ under the bus in a heartbeat to keep Brady. She had no issue doing the same thing to Stefano to keep John. EJ would keep Lexie's secret,i believe, but they actually had a bond that went deeper than having the same last name.

I see someone mentioned that EJ has chosen the Dimeras over Sami before. When?
I think the closest we've actually gotten is when he went back to doing what Stefano wanted him to do in 2008, right after he'd done everything he wanted to do to set himself apart from Stefano (when he told Marlena about John).

Then obviously when he sided with Stefano's plan regarding Rafe2....he could have easily said NO, but he didn't....even if he wasn't 'with' Sami at the time, he really had an obligation to keep his kids away from Arnold...knowing he was a criminal and posing as Sami's husband...but he didn't....not to say that he would have told Sami...but at the very least don't go with Stefano's plot....

Obviously in the beginning also when he was the black glove criminal doing whatever he wanted for Stefano while trying to pass himself off as Sami's friend.

I will admit that this time is the biggest head scratcher moment though, because unlike back then.....he was close to Sami, or had already gotten her in the sack but he wasn't in a committed relationship with her...obviously wasn't her fiancee and didn't have a true vested interest in keeping the relationship. It's also a big WTF because he just said that the lies have lead him to lose Sami in the past, all the talk about trust, etc...and he does exactly what might actually make her lose trust and lose her.....
Edited by LuvingLumi, Nov 6 2013, 06:55 PM.
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Man, if I had a dollar for ever Salemite Nicole has thrown out of Daniel's apartment this week...

(Nic's "Get out!" reminds me of the old Donnatella Versace skits on SNL.)
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Kinay
Nov 6 2013, 06:32 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 06:13 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:41 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:06 PM

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His lying to Sami about Eric should be what ultimately ends Ejami. If Sami has any loyalty to Eric she needs to do a lot more than just kick EJ out of her bed. Not only does he know that Kristen drugged and raped Eric but that she's planning on drugging him again. And he's keeping it from her. This is Sami's twin brother. To keep that knowledge to himself for any reason is unforgivable. Of course EJ's done plenty of unforgivable things to Sami in the past. But this is not just about Sami. If she has any respect for Eric or herself she would end things with EJ permanently. She keeps saying how he's changed, well this should prove to her that he hasn't and he never will.

And yes I know it's in character for EJ to put his family first, I just think it's about time Sami started doing the same.
There is a lot of things that Sami should not be doing, but yet she is doing it. So, she will get over EJ lying soon enough, and will be back having sex with him in no time. In the meantime she will make the appropriate noise, scream, shout etc. During this time EJ will do his usual to get her to submit to him, and she will. Then it will be back to normal for them until next time. This is just EJami angst. If Sami had any self respect in the first place she would not be with EJ, and she would not be living so willingly in the Dimera Mansion. So I am betting the EJ and Sami wedding is more likely to happen than not. Can't take her seriously, and she should stop criticising people for doing the exact same thing that she herself is doing. Stupid woman.
I agree, this is most likely not what will break them up , but there will be other lies and dangerous situations where Sami will have no choice but to rethink her decision to live the Demira life.
KC said that he would continuesly break her trust. So this is just the start.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Kinay
Nov 6 2013, 06:32 PM
Dee-anne
Nov 6 2013, 06:13 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:41 PM
Rosebud
Nov 6 2013, 05:06 PM

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His lying to Sami about Eric should be what ultimately ends Ejami. If Sami has any loyalty to Eric she needs to do a lot more than just kick EJ out of her bed. Not only does he know that Kristen drugged and raped Eric but that she's planning on drugging him again. And he's keeping it from her. This is Sami's twin brother. To keep that knowledge to himself for any reason is unforgivable. Of course EJ's done plenty of unforgivable things to Sami in the past. But this is not just about Sami. If she has any respect for Eric or herself she would end things with EJ permanently. She keeps saying how he's changed, well this should prove to her that he hasn't and he never will.

And yes I know it's in character for EJ to put his family first, I just think it's about time Sami started doing the same.
There is a lot of things that Sami should not be doing, but yet she is doing it. So, she will get over EJ lying soon enough, and will be back having sex with him in no time. In the meantime she will make the appropriate noise, scream, shout etc. During this time EJ will do his usual to get her to submit to him, and she will. Then it will be back to normal for them until next time. This is just EJami angst. If Sami had any self respect in the first place she would not be with EJ, and she would not be living so willingly in the Dimera Mansion. So I am betting the EJ and Sami wedding is more likely to happen than not. Can't take her seriously, and she should stop criticising people for doing the exact same thing that she herself is doing. Stupid woman.
I agree, this is most likely not what will break them up , but there will be other lies and dangerous situations where Sami will have no choice but to rethink her decision to live the Demira life.
I think this is only going to be the beginning of Ej deceiving and lying to Sami....the secret will obviously be kept from coming out for months, and I believe that in order to keep her and keep the secret from coming out he'll do whatever he needs to do, which in the end will be what ultimately breaks them up.I think they'll make it down the aisle, but I think that during the wedding a greater secret will come out, or something that will prove to be the final straw for Sami.
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My son is not a homersexual.

I really thought Kristen was going to threaten him.
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Nov 6 2013, 05:01 PM
I'm so going to miss Eileen Davidson. They may have written her into a corner but Kristen is still my favorite character (past or present) and it's going to suck getting used to the show without her. Again.

Hopefully next year she'll win the Emmy!
I think there's a better chance of Fox News becoming a liberal news station than ED returning to Days. She was pretty determined to jump ship and is now feeding on the scraps that Y&R feeds her on a part-time basis. Her choice, but yes, I am still bitter...can't you tell?! LOL!

My dream story is that she comes back with Brady's baby just at the moment that he is remarrying Chloe. Chloe and Brady will have to overcome them both being tied to someone else through a child (her with Daniel, him with Krisen) as they try to make it work.

I wanted a Kristen/Brady/Chloe/Daniel quad when Nadia returned, but no sale.
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My son is not a homersexual.

BTW, Sami, EJ, and Kristen = rapists all in one room together!
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Matt, I don't buy for a second that you've forgotten Rex or have even remotely tried. Exhibit A - no more are necessary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXjviDEzReI
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My son is not a homersexual.

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Nov 6 2013, 06:51 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:01 PM
I'm so going to miss Eileen Davidson. They may have written her into a corner but Kristen is still my favorite character (past or present) and it's going to suck getting used to the show without her. Again.

Hopefully next year she'll win the Emmy!
I think there's a better chance of Fox News becoming a liberal news station than ED returning to Days. She was pretty determined to jump ship and is now feeding on the scraps that Y&R feeds her on a part-time basis. Her choice, but yes, I am still bitter...can't you tell?! LOL!

My dream story is that she comes back with Brady's baby just at the moment that he is remarrying Chloe. Chloe and Brady will have to overcome them both being tied to someone else through a child (her with Daniel, him with Krisen) as they try to make it work.

I wanted a Kristen/Brady/Chloe/Daniel quad when Nadia returned, but no sale.
No, not this time. I see Eileen returning eventually for shorter arcs easily. I never believed she would be back after 14 years. Now that that's been taken care of and she's been introduced to a new generation of viewers, it's very easy for her to return. She said that she has no issue with doing two shows at the same time, and Sony is still going to want her on Days. Ironically, she was the one who demanded more work at Days and burned herself out. She wanted to make up the money she wasn't getting from Y&R. She was left with no money in the end. It was probably better to take a cut from the start and do both shows, but she talked about the hectic schedule -- then again, she asked for more work. I get her. I really do. I don't think she was prepared for how the show worked now, but even she took note how all the shows are becoming or will become like Days. It all comes down to $$$.
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Nov 6 2013, 06:51 PM
BTW, Sami, EJ, and Kristen = rapists all in one room together!
Another reason why I'm pissed about Kristen leaving so soon. I wanted a scene where Kristen ripped Sami for her hypocrisy if she got pissed over Eric's rape.

Sami: You raped my brother!!

Kristen: Bitch, you raped your sister's boyfriend! And are now engaged to your rapist! Shut the hell up now and go make me a martini!

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Nov 6 2013, 06:48 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 05:41 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepshould be what ultimately ends Ejami. If Sami has any loyalty to Eric she needs to do a lot more than just kick EJ out of her bed. Not only does he know that Kristen drugged and raped Eric but that she's planning on drugging him again. And he's keeping it from her. This is Sami's twin brother. To keep that knowledge to himself for any reason is unforgivable. Of course EJ's done plenty of unforgivable things to Sami in the past. But this is not just about Sami. If she has any respect for Eric or herself she would end things with EJ permanently. She keeps saying how he's changed, well this should prove to her that he hasn't and he never will.

And yes I know it's in character for EJ to put his family first, I just think it's about time Sami started doing the same.
There is a lot of things that Sami should not be doing, but yet she is doing it. So, she will get over EJ lying soon enough, and will be back having sex with him in no time. In the meantime she will make the appropriate noise, scream, shout etc. During this time EJ will do his usual to get her to submit to him, and she will. Then it will be back to normal for them until next time. This is just EJami angst. If Sami had any self respect in the first place she would not be with EJ, and she would not be living so willingly in the Dimera Mansion. So I am betting the EJ and Sami wedding is more likely to happen than not. Can't take her seriously, and she should stop criticising people for doing the exact same thing that she herself is doing. Stupid woman.
I agree, this is most likely not what will break them up , but there will be other lies and dangerous situations where Sami will have no choice but to rethink her decision to live the Demira life.
I think this is only going to be the beginning of Ej deceiving and lying to Sami....the secret will obviously be kept from coming out for months, and I believe that in order to keep her and keep the secret from coming out he'll do whatever he needs to do, which in the end will be what ultimately breaks them up.I think they'll make it down the aisle, but I think that during the wedding a greater secret will come out, or something that will prove to be the final straw for Sami.
I agree, she went in knowing full well what he's capable of and I won't feel sorry for her one bit when she realizes that he hasn't changed at all and is still the same liar and deceitful person he always was. This time around, I hope there's nobody there for the rebound.
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There are spoilers of Sami already being suspicious of EJ by end of next week, I think this lie will be out in the next few weeks as opposed to drawn out over a few months. Sami being clueless and EJ pulling stunts to cover tracks and just making it worse is not how this is going to unfold IMO

EJ was so torn up over what he did, Kristen's veiled threats to him as well, and the guilt he will no doubt be feeling all shaping up to be some good EJAMI angst :popcorn:
Edited by JillianJ, Nov 6 2013, 07:03 PM.
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Nov 6 2013, 06:45 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 06:00 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 04:41 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 02:54 PM

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Disagree. Kristen's his sister, his family, an it's always been a DiMera thing and for EJ to have family loyalty. In the end, that's basically what a person has. He would be pretty stupid to throw that all away. Also, just because he's chosen to be with Sami doesn't mean he has to throw everything else away. He still has a right to have siblings and be loyal to them also.

Furthermore, if the shoe was on the other foot, Kristen would SO keep EJ's secret, without question.
Kristen would throw EJ under the bus in a heartbeat to keep Brady. She had no issue doing the same thing to Stefano to keep John. EJ would keep Lexie's secret,i believe, but they actually had a bond that went deeper than having the same last name.

I see someone mentioned that EJ has chosen the Dimeras over Sami before. When?
I think the closest we've actually gotten is when he went back to doing what Stefano wanted him to do in 2008, right after he'd done everything he wanted to do to set himself apart from Stefano (when he told Marlena about John).

Then obviously when he sided with Stefano's plan regarding Rafe2....he could have easily said NO, but he didn't....even if he wasn't 'with' Sami at the time, he really had an obligation to keep his kids away from Arnold...knowing he was a criminal and posing as Sami's husband...but he didn't....not to say that he would have told Sami...but at the very least don't go with Stefano's plot....

Obviously in the beginning also when he was the black glove criminal doing whatever he wanted for Stefano while trying to pass himself off as Sami's friend.

I will admit that this time is the biggest head scratcher moment though, because unlike back then.....he was close to Sami, or had already gotten her in the sack but he wasn't in a committed relationship with her...obviously wasn't her fiancee and didn't have a true vested interest in keeping the relationship. It's also a big WTF because he just said that the lies have lead him to lose Sami in the past, all the talk about trust, etc...and he does exactly what might actually make her lose trust and lose her.....
I sort of see the point you're making for the 2008 story, but i don't think ejami wetter actually close during the other stories.
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What 2008 story? Stefano woke up from his coma, but EJ hadn't done a single thing to reconnect with him until after Sami left for witness protection and he was with Nicole. It was over for them with him even calling Sami to tell her as much.
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