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Wednesday, November 6th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 6 2013, 02:25 AM (17,518 Views)
michr544125


Pretty good show. I didn't fast forward one thing again. One one hand I am going to miss Eileen because she's a great actress but her story is just so OT for me that it needs to end. This story with Brady has been the same old thing for months. I'm so happy it's about to end.

Gabi seems to me that she wants Nick back despite saying she doesn't. Why else spend so much time with him? I bet even when she finds out Nick is behind this, she will still forgive him.

LMAO at Sonny telling Sami he never should have told of all people anything.
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LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 06:07 AM
JamaicanBeauty7
Nov 6 2013, 11:07 PM
LuvingLumi
Nov 6 2013, 09:32 PM
I frankly don't think Ej cares about any woman. History proves it.
I don't know about that. Most recently, EJ went on his hands and knees begging Stefano to save Sami. He gave everything and his soul to Steffie to free her from life in prison. That looks like he cares about Sami to me.

This also happened around August, which would constitute the past, or "history."
And somehow now he's going to keep a secret that will hurt her, and her twin. If he cared at all about Sami he'd tell her. Ej's actions with all his women prove that in the end he'll do whatever benefits him. I can even argue that he took the deal with Stefano because that action would also benefit him too... Not to say it didn't primarily benefit Sami but an argument could be made that if he would have been on the outs with Sami would he have taken the deal with Stef that set her free? The deal benefitted him too.
By this way of thinking, one never hurts the people we love or care about?....however life and people just do not work like that. EJ is not gleeful, he is not patting Kristen on the back, he is upset and already shown to be broken by his decision.

As for the attempt to devalue EJ's sacrifice, Sami came first, not EJ and that is what takes away credence from the point you were trying to make. The same way if Trask had taken EJ's deal, he would be in jail and Sami free, again Sami being put ahead of himself and the exact opposite of what you are arguing.
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Nov 7 2013, 06:01 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 05:54 AM
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Nov 6 2013, 08:03 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 07:38 PM

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Wasn't her point that we have been seeing lies and break in trust all along, with this one being worse? As for some not wanting it to happen, not going to speak for anyone outside of myself, but given that nowhere was the end of EJAMI pronounced outside of those who want KC's words to mean that, bring on the angst. I am personally looking forward to EJ's fear of Sami leaving him because of this lie not being realised.

JS said in an interview recently that the road to the altar is gonna be fantastic, I don´t see how it can be fantastic unless the payoff is a wedding where Ejami do get married.

As for EJ caring about Nicole I think he does a little bit but it´s Sami he is inlove with and wants to spend the rest of his life with. If he really loved Nicole he wouldn´t let her take the blame for this.
We'll, if JS' use of the word fantastic is similar to his use of the word brilliant then I'd say there likely isn't a wedding.
We'll see :popcorn:
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S loves EJ
Nov 7 2013, 06:48 AM
LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 06:07 AM
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Nov 6 2013, 11:07 PM
LuvingLumi
Nov 6 2013, 09:32 PM
I frankly don't think Ej cares about any woman. History proves it.
I don't know about that. Most recently, EJ went on his hands and knees begging Stefano to save Sami. He gave everything and his soul to Steffie to free her from life in prison. That looks like he cares about Sami to me.

This also happened around August, which would constitute the past, or "history."
And somehow now he's going to keep a secret that will hurt her, and her twin. If he cared at all about Sami he'd tell her. Ej's actions with all his women prove that in the end he'll do whatever benefits him. I can even argue that he took the deal with Stefano because that action would also benefit him too... Not to say it didn't primarily benefit Sami but an argument could be made that if he would have been on the outs with Sami would he have taken the deal with Stef that set her free? The deal benefitted him too.


When did JS use the word brilliant?

Anyway I don´t think EJ keeping this secret will hurt Sami she will get upset when she finds out her brother been raped but that would have happend if he told her too, but she will get angry with him for lying about it, but he isn´t doing it because it benefits him, but because he cares about his sister and wants her to be happy and Sami will understand that in time.

ladyofthelake
Nov 7 2013, 06:19 AM
Ya know, this opinion about EJ and his feelings is just dependent on one's fandom or lack of it. Personally, I think the drama was over the top, (EJ and Kristen) but wild in a cool way. I don't want to debate who EJ might have feelings for, because right now, yeah, it's Sami, but if there is a different writer, things might change. I remember the time he was crazy sniffing the scarf of the T girl. To everything, there is a season. But, yeah (even as a non-EJami fan), I think he's got it bad for Sami. Why, I don't know. But I also think he's got a twinge of snarky feeling for Nicole that he tries to hide with sarcasm and a hair of meanness, sort of like a teenage boy. No problem with that! In real life, I would expect more than one man to continue to have some sort of residual fondness for an ex. Yeah, some have extreme hatred, some have no feeling whatsoever, but some have some residual feeling. It might actually make EJ human and add a little more angst to the story. Why does it have to be one or the other? :shrug: To me, that would make him a better,more complex character. (even if it wasn't Nicole. Hell, I'd be happy if he had some fond reminiscence of Kate!)


I did say that I think EJ cares a little bit about Nicole because I think it makes him human, but also because him caring about Nicole doesn´t exclude him for being happy and inlove with Sami at the same time, but your are right that the writing can change. I do love Ejami more than Ejole but I have liked Ejole too so I´m not totally against the writers going back to Ejole. I just hope that if they do it something the actors believes in or else it never gonna work.
My post wasn't directly pointed at you....it was a generalized post, written from experience ;)
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One could also argue that if EJ ever really loved Sami, he wouldn't have been been absolutly thrilled at hurting her while ordering a man to rape her repeatedly. There is no real love that can believed on this show anymore. Days of our Lives coined the phrase "Supercouple" because they once had stories of true, lasting love. It is really sad that Days has lost that, it once made the show special.
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Nov 6 2013, 11:07 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 09:32 PM
I frankly don't think Ej cares about any woman. History proves it.
I don't know about that. Most recently, EJ went on his hands and knees begging Stefano to save Sami. He gave everything and his soul to Steffie to free her from life in prison. That looks like he cares about Sami to me.

This also happened around August, which would constitute the past, or "history."
There is no writer that could possibly make me believe that EJ loves Sami. Maybe if I was new to days and know nothing about their histor,y but seeing as I know and have seen all he has done to her, it is just not going to happen. All their declarations of love just rings false to me. I couldnt get pass what he did, and they are certainly writing Sami unrealistically since she has so easily gotten pass what he has done to her.
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Nov 7 2013, 07:00 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 06:48 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 06:07 AM
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Nov 6 2013, 11:07 PM

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And somehow now he's going to keep a secret that will hurt her, and her twin. If he cared at all about Sami he'd tell her. Ej's actions with all his women prove that in the end he'll do whatever benefits him. I can even argue that he took the deal with Stefano because that action would also benefit him too... Not to say it didn't primarily benefit Sami but an argument could be made that if he would have been on the outs with Sami would he have taken the deal with Stef that set her free? The deal benefitted him too.


When did JS use the word brilliant?

Anyway I don´t think EJ keeping this secret will hurt Sami she will get upset when she finds out her brother been raped but that would have happend if he told her too, but she will get angry with him for lying about it, but he isn´t doing it because it benefits him, but because he cares about his sister and wants her to be happy and Sami will understand that in time.

ladyofthelake
Nov 7 2013, 06:19 AM
Ya know, this opinion about EJ and his feelings is just dependent on one's fandom or lack of it. Personally, I think the drama was over the top, (EJ and Kristen) but wild in a cool way. I don't want to debate who EJ might have feelings for, because right now, yeah, it's Sami, but if there is a different writer, things might change. I remember the time he was crazy sniffing the scarf of the T girl. To everything, there is a season. But, yeah (even as a non-EJami fan), I think he's got it bad for Sami. Why, I don't know. But I also think he's got a twinge of snarky feeling for Nicole that he tries to hide with sarcasm and a hair of meanness, sort of like a teenage boy. No problem with that! In real life, I would expect more than one man to continue to have some sort of residual fondness for an ex. Yeah, some have extreme hatred, some have no feeling whatsoever, but some have some residual feeling. It might actually make EJ human and add a little more angst to the story. Why does it have to be one or the other? :shrug: To me, that would make him a better,more complex character. (even if it wasn't Nicole. Hell, I'd be happy if he had some fond reminiscence of Kate!)


I did say that I think EJ cares a little bit about Nicole because I think it makes him human, but also because him caring about Nicole doesn´t exclude him for being happy and inlove with Sami at the same time, but your are right that the writing can change. I do love Ejami more than Ejole but I have liked Ejole too so I´m not totally against the writers going back to Ejole. I just hope that if they do it something the actors believes in or else it never gonna work.
My post wasn't directly pointed at you....it was a generalized post, written from experience ;)


I know it wasn´t directed to me but I thought your post was more objected than what mine could have been. I do think that if EJ was being written to being with Sami while being inlove with Nicole he wouldn´t have let her take the blame for what kristen did, but you were right in that the writing could change.

TreasureCove
Nov 7 2013, 07:24 AM
One could also argue that if EJ ever really loved Sami, he wouldn't have been been absolutly thrilled at hurting her while ordering a man to rape her repeatedly. There is no real love that can believed on this show anymore. Days of our Lives coined the phrase "Supercouple" because they once had stories of true, lasting love. It is really sad that Days has lost that, it once made the show special.


There are times like the rafe2 storyline when EJ wasn´t written to being inlove with Sami, but he is being written to being inlove and care about her now or else he wouldn´t have made the deal with Stefano.
Edited by S loves EJ, Nov 7 2013, 07:49 AM.
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The Kristen and EJ scenes were fantastic. ED was terrific as she played Kristen trying to come to terms with her anger and lies while trying to protect her pending nuptials and prevent the man she loves from learning of her dastardly deeds. JS also played the scenes well as it would flummox and piss off anyone who learned what he just did and then be forced to make a choice between his sister or fiancé. Hose were the best Kristen and EJ scenes since ED's return.

The show really does know how to utilize JA during his limited appearances as Victor. He is given fun material and he always nails it. He truly is this show's ace in the hole.

With Lucas currently single, Sonny truly does have the worst mother-in-law on the show, even if he is not technically married. And by worst I mean the one most likely to cause trouble and make his life hell. There are all sorts of potential stories to mine there if the show ever wanted to do so.

Bring on the wedding as it looks like it is going to be wildly entertaining.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

To whomever asked....JS used 'brilliant twist' to describe when the writers revealed that Ej was behind the kidnapping of Sydney. Usually when an actor loves something the audience likely doesn't...although I must admit, I agreed with James back then, I absolutely thought that was a brilliant twist, lol
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Thank god there is a new show today to put this to the EJ and his feelings to rest LOL!
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Nov 7 2013, 08:06 AM
To whomever asked....JS used 'brilliant twist' to describe when the writers revealed that Ej was behind the kidnapping of Sydney. Usually when an actor loves something the audience likely doesn't...although I must admit, I agreed with James back then, I absolutely thought that was a brilliant twist, lol
I thought the "brilliant twist" remark was about Sami shooting him. Either way, I would just as soon never hear the word "brilliant" from him again. :P
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Nov 7 2013, 08:06 AM
To whomever asked....JS used 'brilliant twist' to describe when the writers revealed that Ej was behind the kidnapping of Sydney. Usually when an actor loves something the audience likely doesn't...although I must admit, I agreed with James back then, I absolutely thought that was a brilliant twist, lol
That wasn't what he used it for. Either way, thus far this year, his words have delivered :cheer: for the EJAMI fanbase, fongers crossed its more of the same. :wub2:

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There is no writer that could possibly make me believe that EJ loves Sami. Maybe if I was new to days and know nothing about their histor,y but seeing as I know and have seen all he has done to her, it is just not going to happen. All their declarations of love just rings false to me. I couldnt get pass what he did, and they are certainly writing Sami unrealistically since she has so easily gotten pass what he has done to her.


Sami didn't easily get past his actions, bullet in head anyone and they have stopped willfully hurting each other for over three years now, ultimately though like you have indicated, it doesn't really matter what is shown to us. :shrug:
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http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/

Director: Albert Alarr
Scriptwriter: Jeanne Marie Ford


Segment 1: Sami rants about Gabi crawling back into bed with that slimeball after everything he has done to her. Has she no self-respect at all. Don't say it! She pulls out her phone. Sonny - What are you doing? Sami - I am going to give her hell.

Gabi tells Nick that she just got an email from Sparkle Modelling Agency. They want to meet with me. Why would they want to meet with me? Oh I get it now.

Vic asks Marlena if Henderson offered her tea. He didn't. Vic - Good, we don't have time for any pleasantries. Maggie's off to the florist to buy some flowers for the wedding that's not going to be. Redux, at least we can hope. Marlena - I think we have hope. Any luck with Kristen's flashdrive. Vic - My man says it's the most sophisticated encryption he's ever seen. Marlena - So he can't do it. Vic - He says it will take time; a luxury we don't have.

Nicole is sitting in front of the fire when Dan comes home. Feeling better? Nicole - A little. I didn't think you'd be back so soon. Dan - I just went in to do my rounds then put in for a few well deserved days off. Nicole - Because they're all looking at you like you're an axe murderer. You didn't do anything wrong and I hate that they all hate you because of a lie.

Eric - I can't talk to you about Nicole. Brady - You've got to talk to somebody about this. Come on, you're a mess man. Look I already told you how sorry am I for keeping it from you but you can't hate Nicole for falling in love with you. Eric snaps - That wasn't love. No one could do something like that to another human being and call it love.

EJ - How could you have sex with Fr. Eric? Kristen - What are you talking about! You honestly think that I would have sex with a man who's given his soul to God. EJ - I wouldn't have done if I hadn't just heard it from the horse's mouth. Who was that man you were talking to? Kristen - One of Father's useless minions who I would not trust with my goldfish let alone my deepest, darkest secrets if I had any which I don't. EJ - Oh I see, I made a mistake, did I? Kristen - I don't know what you think you heard; I really don't but I love Brady, you know that. What could I possibly have to gain by sleeping with his brother. EJ - Besides eternal damnation, you tell me.

Vic - Brady needs to know that Kristen cheated on him and he needs to know today before the wedding. Marlena - Even if we get the flashdrive unencrypted there's no guarantee we'll have the proof we're looking for. I'm thinking that we need to go to Brady and tell him what we know. Vic - Because it worked so well when Nicole tried it. You're not going to reason with Brady. The only thing that's going to get through that thick skull of his is hard evidence and by God, we're going to get it. He pulls out his cell.

Dan - I knew what I was getting into when I let everyone think I was with Theresa when she OD'd. Nicole - When you were "with" Theresa; the one person in Salem who has a worse reputation than me. At least you were doing something noble; protecting the son of the woman you love. I was just an innocent bystander for once. I can't believe that Eric would think that I could do something so terrible. Dan - He's got to be reeling. Not only knowing that he broke his vows but that he was ... Nicole - Raped. Dan - He is not thinking straight. Anybody who knows you, knows what you've been through in your own life would never, ever ... Nicole - I don't care what anyone thinks; he's the only thing that matters.

Eric - I'm sorry. I shouldn't have gone off on you like that. Brady - This is about a lot more than Nicole keeping her feelings from you, isn't it? I think I know what happened.

Kristen - What are you doing and why are you doing it today of all days. Are you trying to ruin my wedding? EJ - Is that what you think I'm doing? Kristen - I have no idea. Maybe you're hallucinating. And on that note I'm going to pretend we never had this conversation, okay because I've got so much to do to get ready for my wedding. I've got to curl my hair so if you'll excuse me ... EJ- I'll give you something that will curl your hair Kristen. That stops her in her tracks. EJ continues - Either you tell me what is going on or I will go and talk to Fr. Eric.


Segment 2: Gabi - This is all so generic. They probably send this out to a 1000 girls. Nick - Why would you say that? Gabi - No one remembers you when you leave the business. Nick - That's not true. You've only been gone a year. Gabi - Well a year in modelling is like forever. Nick - Do you ever think that you might want to go back? You always said that you loved it. Gabi - I did. The thing is I have Ari now and school. I wouldn't have time. You have to be very aggressive about going after calls and one out of ten that you actually get the job and some money. Gabi gets a text from Sami.

Sonny - Did you really just hit Send. What did you say to her? Sami - I said I needed to see her right away. She better come running. I am not letting her get back together with that scum. Sonny - She won't. Sami - You said she slept with Nick and he wants her back. Sonny - Yeah but she doesn't want him back. She's with Cameron now. Sami - Does Will know about any of this? Sonny - Yes he does. It was a huge mess when he found out about her and Nick but if you give Gabi grief it's going to stir everything back up and you know exactly who she's going to take it out on. Sami - Not Arianna Grace. Sonny - No, me.

Brady - Nicole came on to you, didn't she? No? Then what? Eric - How many times do I have to ask you ... Brady - Come on, you're my brother. If something was eating me up this way would you just walk away, tell me to forget about it. Eric - You're getting married today. I want you and Kristen to have the perfect day. Brady - Are you sure you still want to marry us? Eric - Absolutely. I don't want to ruin your big day with any drama. Brady - You're not going to do that. Eric - I have to tell you something. Your vows were terrific. Usually I advise against straying away from your traditional rites because they tend to sound so trite and ... Brady - Corny, right? Eric - There's that. Brady - Well there is something else actually; something I wanted to do at the ceremony. I wanted to give Kristen a surprise that she would never forget.

Dan - I so know that you feel alone right now. Nicole - I'm not the only one. Dan - I'm good. I'm okay. I've got Parker, Melanie and you ... you ... Nicole - You can say it. I don't have anyone. Dan - I'm really worried about you.

Vic is on the phone - That so called hacker you sent me couldn't open my front door with a key. Now I want your best man over here right away otherwise you might as well start the going out of business sale. Marlena - What makes you think your company's top hacker is a man. Vic - I don't care what they are as long as they can get the job done. Marlena - I wish there was something else I could do to help. Vic - I wish there were too. Marlena is going to leave before Maggie comes back. I'm sorry if I caused any problems between the two of you. Vic - Maggie is the least of my worries. Marlena - Be in touch. Vic - As soon as I know anything. Marlena - I can't stand being at the mercy of technology. I wish there was some other way to get Kristen. She leaves.

EJ gets in Kristen's face wagging his finger - You tell me what part of this I misunderstood. I need to make sure that Fr. Eric always thinks it was Nicole that he slept with because he can never suspect that it was me. Kristen - Okay. She slams her purse down. It's not what you think. EJ - How dare I react with horror and disgust because my sister slept with a priest let alone Samantha's brother. How could you! Kristen - When I came back to Salem I was all about getting revenge on John and Marlena and then I fell in love with Brady and I realised that I could have one or the other but I couldn't have both. EJ - Congratulations because now you have neither. Kristen - Thank you. Then on the eve of yet another wedding that wasn't going to happen for me Marlena walks in with that smug, self-satisfied look on her face so happy that she had won. She screams - And I couldn't let her win again! I couldn't let her win again! EJ - So what, you had to come up with another way to get your revenge? Kristen - You bet! If I was going to go on living, I did. And what better way to get to a mother then through her children. EJ backs up. Kristen - Oh lighten up. I wasn't going to go after Sami; I wouldn't hurt you that way. EJ - Oh, thank you; that's very considerate of you. Kristen - Come on, besides we all know Marlena's favourite is her golden boy, right? EJ - How exactly did you get him into bed? Did you drug him? I heard that chap talking about some potion. Kristen - It was really kind of amazing because that video looks ... EJ - Whoa. Hold it. Video! Video! Video Kristen! Kristen - Yes. I needed Marlena to find out in the most devastating way possible so at the school consecration I was going to give it to the Bishop. EJ snaps - You are insane! Do you understand that! Insane! Kristen - Wait a second. Don't you judge me. Don't you dare judge me. You have done far worse and you know it.


Segment 3: Sonny - Gabi was feeling lonely. She was stressed out between school and the baby, Nick took advantage of her. Sami - That sounds like the Nick I know and despise. Sonny - Gabi and I got into this huge fight and it caused all this tension in the apt. I don't want that again. She knows she made a mistake. I don't know why I opened my mouth to you of all people. Sami - Right, because we all know I can't keep a secret. I'm sorry. I can't untext her. Sonny - If you talk to her she's going to be upset and Will's going to be upset. Sami - What if she does ... Sonny - Everything is great right now. Please just text her back and tell her never mind.

Nick - Do you think you're going to call the agency back? Gabi - Do you think I should? Nick - Why not? Do you really not know how beautiful you are. Seriously, the way your face lights up when you talk about Arianna, that is the way it used to light up when you talked about modelling. I think you miss it. Gabi - Maybe. It's just I'm not in a really good place to deal with rejection right now. Nick - If you don't call them don't you kind of think you'll always wonder.

Nicole - Do you think my life is pathetic 'cause it is. Dan - Stop that. Don't ever say that because I know the tough time you went through when you got that job at the church. I could tell that it started to give you purpose and it made you feel ... Nicole - Like a good person for the first time in my life ever. Then I let myself fall in love with a priest. Really! How could I be such an idiot. Dan - You can't help how you feel. You loved him long before he took his vows. Nicole - I was ready to leave town; put some distance between us because I knew I could never act on those feelings. I could live without Eric. I could live without that job but what I can't live with is Eric thinking I could do something so terrible to him.

Eric - What do you want to do? Brady - I made a video. I have this DVD that I want to show. Eric - Of you and Kristen. In the middle of mass? Brady - No, in the beginning of the ceremony. Come on, I even wrote a speech to introduce the thing. Eric - You were sure that I was going to say yes, weren't you? Brady - I was hoping. I know it's not going to persuade my grandfather or anybody else for that matter but I wanted to do it for her. Eric - Whatever makes you happy. It's your day and I'm just honoured to be a part of it. Brady - I can't thank you enough for what you've done for us. Eric - I'm your brother. Brady - Step-brother. Eric - Don't see it that way. Brady - Me neither. I will never forget the way you've been there for me. Thank you. They embrace. Eric - Same here.

Kristen - Would you like me to throw a few hundred sins in your face. This isn't your problem. EJ - You're my sister. Kristen - It's a little late to start worrying about my immortal soul, don't you think? EJ - You understand Samantha adores her twin brother. Kristen - She never has to know. Eric never has to know. EJ - Really? Because you see I thought that was the entire point. Kristen - Have you paid attention to what's been going on in my life lately because Brady and I are back together. EJ - Oh I would imagine that at that point this little plan of yours must have seemed a little ill-conceived, no? I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Kristen - I want a life with Brady. If he found out what I did with Eric I would lose him forever. EJ - So what about the video? Kristen - It's been destroyed. The only way that Eric would ever find out is if you tell him. EJ - You're sure about this? Kristen - This is how I know God is really on my side this time. I found out that Nicole is in love with Eric and by the best stroke of luck ever she was at that hotel that night. EJ - Yeah that's good luck for you; bad luck for Nicole. Kristen - So what! All of a sudden you care about Nicole! EJ yells - No I do not care about Nicole. Kristen - Well then there you go! As long as Eric doesn't remember I'm golden. EJ - Yes but my dear that is rather the point, isn't it? Because it would appear that Eric is starting to remember.

Marlena is at the rectory. Eric - Brady and Kristen have completed all their required counselling. I truly believe that they're in love therefore it's my God-given duty to ... Marlena - Marry them. I understand that. I hope that you understand that it's my frequent prayer that they never make it to the altar. Sorry I've upset you. Eric - No, it's not you Mom. It's just that I've got a lot on my mind. Marlena - I have some good news about Theresa. She seems receptive to ? (can't understand her) at least that's what she said. Eric - What about Daniel and the Ethics Board? Marlena - I'm going to talk to him. I hope there won't be any long term implications on his career. Honey, you seem so sad. Talk to me. Please tell me what's going on.


Segment 4: Sami reads - Ignore my text. Sorry. Would love to get all the kids together with Ari soon. Sonny wants to read it before she sends it. Thank you. Sami - I promise I won't say anything to Gabi about Nick unless I have to. She promises Ari that she won't let Nick slither back into her life; if he does, he'll regret it. Speaking of regrets I wish I could send mine to Brady's wedding but I should probably go and get ready. Sonny - Have fun. Good luck. Sami - I'm going to need it. She leaves.

Gabi - Good, Sami said to never mind. Nick puts the gift bag on the table. Gabi - You shouldn't have. Nick - It's not from me. It's from my Mom. It's a plush white lamb. Ari will love this. Tell her I said thank you. Nick - I hope you don't mind, I sent her some pictures. You know what she said. She said the funniest thing. I know that Arianna Grace is going to be a model just like her mom. Gabi - Ex-model. Nick - I guess that parts up to you. Nick's cell rings. He says he will be right back. Gabi calls the modelling agency. Nick watches.

Vic holds out the flashdrive to a guy in suit. I need this unencrypted 10 mins. ago. You can work in the office. There's a laptop in there. Brady comes home. Vic - Today's finally the big day this time. I hope you appreciate how hard I'm trying to be supportive. Brady - Why do I feel there's going to be a big but coming. Vic - About this honeymoon. Who's idea was it to drop off the face of the earth for 3 mons. Brady - Mine. Vic - Well then who do you suppose is going to be running the business while you're away? Brady - I hear there's this great guy named Victor Kiriakis who's ... Vic - You could have asked me. Brady - Are you really concerned about the business? Vic - No, I'm concerned about my grandson. Brady - You don't have to be. Vic - If you're sure this is what you want I'm not going to stand in your way. But why the rush to the altar and leaving all your friends and loved ones after that! Brady - That's not what I'm doing. Vic - Don't you want to take some time to make sure you really know Kristen. Brady - I do know Kristen and I've heard your concerns over and over again. And if Eric is the only family member on my side, so be it. I'm not changing my mind.

Eric - It's nothing that I want to talk about right now. I'm fine. They hug. Thank you for caring so much. Marlena - I love you so much. I would do anything for you. I hope you know that.

Nicole - I mean to think that someone could do something that sick to anyone let alone Eric. I just think that deep down Eric was horrified about the way I feel about him. Maybe he was just looking for a reason to hate me. Dan - I don't think so. Something happened that night and it's still likely that Eric was poisoned. Nicole - But you didn't find any traces. Dan - No I didn't but a strange woman was at the hotel that night calling herself Fay Taylor and she wants to stay in the room next to him. Why? Nicole - I don't know. So what do you want to do? Dan - Talk to Eric about what exactly he remembers because if we can find that woman we can prove it wasn't you. And maybe we'll finally get to the bottom of what happened that night.

Kristen - Nicole and Eric can't even stand to look at each other let alone sit down and try and figure out what happened; not that they ever could. EJ - I know Nicole a hell of a lot better than you do. You really think that she's going to let this go, don't you? Kristen - She's not going to have a choice. EJ - You think I'm just going to let this go? What you are doing can ruin the lives of both of Samantha's brothers. Kristen - Only if you let it. Samantha's family loyalty is about as changeable as her nail polish. What about yours? EJ - This is not about the past; this is about what you are planning on doing to the padre. You're going to drug him again. What am I supposed to do? Just turn a blind eye and lie to the woman I'm about to marry. Kristen - Yes. EJ - I can't do that. Kristen - Since when? EJ - Every time I've lied to Samantha I've always lost her and I'm not going to lose her again because of your plan. Kristen - And I am not going to lose the man I love because of your sudden and temporary attack of conscious. You are not going to ruin my wedding day. You are not going to ruin my life ... Sami is seen in the background ... You are going to keep your big mouth shut. Sami - Oh sorry. Bad time?


Segment 5: Nick returns to the table. Gabi - I took your advice and I called the agency and they're really interested in me. Nick - What! I told you. So are you excited. Gabi - I don't want to get my hopes up but it's kind of hard not to ... oh I have to go pick up Ari. Thank you so much for the gift and the advice. Oh, could you not tell anybody about the modelling thing. I don't know how Will and Sonny will react. Nick - First of all I'm sure that they would be supportive but second of all I don't talk to them that often anyway. Gabi thanks him and leaves.

Dan - So I have your permission to talk to Eric about this. Nicole - You don't need my permission. Thank you for asking and for wanting to help. I just think this is a lost cause. Dan - You never know unless you try. Dan opens the door to leave and Marlena is there. She wants to talk about the Ethics Committee - does he have a minute. Dan is on his way out; it's important. Marlena apologises for wasting his time. Nicole steps into the doorway. You didn't waste your time. I really need to have a word with you. Dan - I'll call you and set up a meeting ASAP. Marlena - That would be great. Dan leaves. Marlena - What are you doing here and what do you want?

Brady pulls out a DVD from an envelope. Vic - Planning on showing the guests a movie if the bride doesn't make it to the altar. Brady - It's a surprise for Kristen; a little tribute to her. Vic - AH! Kristen DiMera's greatest hits. Have you thought of false teeth for wedding souvenirs? Brady - Thank you very much for your understanding. Vic - Better yet you should pass out antacids; I'm sure I'm not going to be the only one whose stomach is churning during the ceremony. Brady - Kristen and I are going to get married. She's the only one I really care about right now and I'm going to make this the most memorable day of her life.

Eric looks up when Dan comes into the rectory. It's not a good time right now. Dan - This won't take long. I'm pretty sure that you're upset about what happened with Theresa. I am too and I intend to cooperate fully with the Ethics investigation to make sure that ... Eric - I know you're not here to talk about Theresa. I know Nicole told you her version of what happened that night at the hotel. Dan - She did and I believe her. Eric - Well I don't. Dan - We have been trying for months to get to the bottom of this. Between the info the PI's got, from what the clerks said, to what you remember or think you do ... Eric - I know what I remember. Nicole is a good liar, she's a great liar. Don't be taken in by her. Don't be a fool like I was.

EJ - Actually Kristen and I were just in the middle of something. Sami - I'll leave you to it. I'm going to check that the arrangements are all set for the kids. She leaves. Kristen - Are you going to tell her or not?


Segment 6: Nick sits at a table in the pub and looks at headshots of Gabi on his laptop. Come on, who wouldn't want to hire this face? You can finally follow your dreams Gabi and the three of us can be a family just like we always wanted. New York here we come.

Brady - Don't think you're doing me any favours by coming to the wedding. You don't want to be there, don't come. He leaves the room. The guy returns with Vic's laptop. It's up and running. Vic - Did you see what was on it? Guy - None of my business. It's all cued up for you and I made a DVD. He hands it over to Vic. Vic - Thank you. That's all I need.

Dan - I know Nicole very well. I've been the victim of her lies and I'm not the guy who goes looking for the good side of everybody like you do. I'm not saying that Nicole is not capable of deceit but after talking with her I know she wouldn't do this. There's got to be another explanation. Eric snaps - No there's not. Dan - Oh, you don't want to know the truth. Eric - I already know the truth. I'm just trying to put this behind me and get on with my life.

Marlena - What did you want to talk to me about? Nicole - Your son. Marlena - Eric? Nicole - Have you seen him today? Marlena - A few minutes ago. Nicole - How was he? Marlena - He was upset. Nicole - Did he tell you why? Marlena - He didn't want to talk about it. Nicole - That's all I need to know. Marlena - No, now I need to know. What is going on with you and Eric. Nicole - Nothing. Marlena - My family has enough trouble so if you are causing any problems with Eric ... Nicole - I didn't do anything!

Kristen - Make up your mind. Either you keep my secret or you tell Sami everything right here, right now. What's it going to be? Sami comes back. Do you two need a referee? It's almost wedding time. I'd be happy to help you settle this so that your sister can actually walk down the aisle.


Segment 7: Marlena - Why so defensive Nicole? Nicole - Don't start with me. Marlena - I will finish you if you've done anything to hurt my son Eric. Nicole - I would never hurt Eric, ever! Marlena - Then why all the questions and why is he so upset. Nicole - Don't you see that I'm upset! Don't you see that I care about him! OMG, get out. Get the hell out. She slams the door closed and starts to cry.

Eric - I don't want your help. I just want you to drop this. I remembered what happened that night. I wish I didn't. I wished I had left it all alone. I have a wedding. You need to go. Dan - I'll respect your wishes. I can't imagine what you're going through right now. You know what, I think you're making a huge mistake about Nicole and I think you'll regret it some day. He leaves. Eric - Will I!

EJ - We were just discussing work. We were having a disagreement. The lies spew out of his mouth. Kristen is going upstairs to get ready for her wedding. Sami wants more details about the decision they disagreed on. You can't be keeping that woman's secrets from me, Kristen is going to marry my brother.

Brady is in his room getting ready. He's happy.

Kristen is in her room staring in a mirror. Nothing's going to stop my wedding, not this time. She opens a dresser drawer and pulls out a gun.

Vic watches the video and sees that Kristen is having sex with Eric.
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LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 08:06 AM
To whomever asked....JS used 'brilliant twist' to describe when the writers revealed that Ej was behind the kidnapping of Sydney. Usually when an actor loves something the audience likely doesn't...although I must admit, I agreed with James back then, I absolutely thought that was a brilliant twist, lol

If he used the word brilliant twist describing EJ being behind the sydnapping I wouldn´t have a problem with it. I think it made sense that EJ wanted revenge on Sami for lying about her pregnancy so EJ being behind the sydnapping is a good twist. In other Words I don´t have a problem with EJ being behind the kidapping, but I think they took the storyline to far with having him fake Sydney´s death.

If JS however use the word to describe Sami shooting EJ I would say it would be an awful way to use the word.
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Nov 7 2013, 08:36 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 08:06 AM
To whomever asked....JS used 'brilliant twist' to describe when the writers revealed that Ej was behind the kidnapping of Sydney. Usually when an actor loves something the audience likely doesn't...although I must admit, I agreed with James back then, I absolutely thought that was a brilliant twist, lol
That wasn't what he used it for. Either way, thus far this year, his words have delivered :cheer: for the EJAMI fanbase, fongers crossed its more of the same. :wub2:

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There is no writer that could possibly make me believe that EJ loves Sami. Maybe if I was new to days and know nothing about their histor,y but seeing as I know and have seen all he has done to her, it is just not going to happen. All their declarations of love just rings false to me. I couldnt get pass what he did, and they are certainly writing Sami unrealistically since she has so easily gotten pass what he has done to her.


Sami didn't easily get past his actions, bullet in head anyone and they have stopped willfully hurting each other for over three years now, ultimately though like you have indicated, it doesn't really matter what is shown to us. :shrug:
I really don't want to take the time to look up a JS interview that is at least 3 or 4 years old just to prove a point. It was either what I said, or like Gail said the shooting...either way I don't care....we are making the point that if his use of fantastic is anything like his use of the word brilliant, fantastic can simply mean something very, very bad, lol.
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Nov 7 2013, 08:41 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 08:06 AM
To whomever asked....JS used 'brilliant twist' to describe when the writers revealed that Ej was behind the kidnapping of Sydney. Usually when an actor loves something the audience likely doesn't...although I must admit, I agreed with James back then, I absolutely thought that was a brilliant twist, lol

If he used the word brilliant twist describing EJ being behind the sydnapping I wouldn´t have a problem with it. I think it made sense that EJ wanted revenge on Sami for lying about her pregnancy so EJ being behind the sydnapping is a good twist. In other Words I don´t have a problem with EJ being behind the kidapping, but I think they took the storyline to far with having him fake Sydney´s death.

If JS however use the word to describe Sami shooting EJ I would say it would be an awful way to use the word.
I really don't think so. JS has always struck me as the guy who loves when Ej does dastardly things, and he loves twists in the story to make him do those things....and whether it was the Sydnapping or the shooting, both instances focused on EJ alone, not so much one of his pairings....it gave JS room to do whatever he wanted with the scene and that is usually what an actor looks for. The challenging storyline twists that usually mean more to an actor because they showcase themselves...IMHO that is what JS wanted to say back then regarding brilliant...in both instances IMHO it was something brilliant for him as an actor...regardless of if some fans thought it was actually brilliant or not....
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Nov 6 2013, 07:00 PM
There are spoilers of Sami already being suspicious of EJ by end of next week, I think this lie will be out in the next few weeks as opposed to drawn out over a few months. Sami being clueless and EJ pulling stunts to cover tracks and just making it worse is not how this is going to unfold IMO

EJ was so torn up over what he did, Kristen's veiled threats to him as well, and the guilt he will no doubt be feeling all shaping up to be some good EJAMI angst :popcorn:
I kind of resent that Elvis and Sami are being pulled into this story at the end. Granted, Sami should have some strong reaction scenes, etc, but why did they have to make them have a whole dilemma about it themselves? I sure hope they don't take precious time away from the real players in this story!
I think everyone is going to get their rightful chance to shine in the culmination of this sl and I cannot wait.
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Nov 6 2013, 08:09 PM
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Nov 6 2013, 07:45 PM
Six I could be getting my timelines confused but if I am not mistaken they went from fighting over Sami not being able to take Johnny from the house because of her jealousy over him sleeping with Nicole, to making up and stairwell where they learnt Stefano was awake, to fighting with Lucas over Allie then Sami learnt she was pregnant and chose to move out with Stefano only playing a minor role in her early decision. John was in fact still in the mansion if I am not mistaken too.
Your time line is right AFAICT, but IIRC around the time Sami found out she was pregnant and Stefano moved back into the mansion and started spending a lot of time with Johnny, Sami asked EJ to move out and he refused and that played into Sami's decision not to tell EJ she was pregnant.
You are probably right, I don't remember that one, the only discussion I remember them having about Stefano was over the phone when Sami found Stefano and Johnny in the cemetary when EJ could not get anyone else to watch him and Sami was supposed to meet up with him to talk more but instead she learnt Nicole was pregnant and it all went downhill lol
Okay I checked this out and that wasn't exactly how it happened. It was before Sami found out she was pregnant. Lucas had moved out and weird things started happening in the mansion, like the chess pieces being moved around. They thought Stefano might secretly be awake and sneaking in (and he was, it was just before the purple smoke story). Sami was scared and she wanted herself and EJ to grab the twins and move somewhere else, but EJ said no, because he thought he had it all under control.
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Nov 7 2013, 08:20 AM
LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 08:06 AM
To whomever asked....JS used 'brilliant twist' to describe when the writers revealed that Ej was behind the kidnapping of Sydney. Usually when an actor loves something the audience likely doesn't...although I must admit, I agreed with James back then, I absolutely thought that was a brilliant twist, lol
I thought the "brilliant twist" remark was about Sami shooting him. Either way, I would just as soon never hear the word "brilliant" from him again. :P
I am 99.9% positive that the "Brilliant Twist" was the Sydnapping. LL and I have shared many giggles over the "Brilliance" of it all! I do remember saying that IF JS thinks the answer to who has Sydney was BRILLIANT--then it HAD to be him. Sure enough was!
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