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Wednesday, November 6th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 6 2013, 02:25 AM (17,517 Views)
S loves EJ


LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 08:53 AM
S loves EJ
Nov 7 2013, 08:41 AM
LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 08:06 AM
To whomever asked....JS used 'brilliant twist' to describe when the writers revealed that Ej was behind the kidnapping of Sydney. Usually when an actor loves something the audience likely doesn't...although I must admit, I agreed with James back then, I absolutely thought that was a brilliant twist, lol

If he used the word brilliant twist describing EJ being behind the sydnapping I wouldn´t have a problem with it. I think it made sense that EJ wanted revenge on Sami for lying about her pregnancy so EJ being behind the sydnapping is a good twist. In other Words I don´t have a problem with EJ being behind the kidapping, but I think they took the storyline to far with having him fake Sydney´s death.

If JS however use the word to describe Sami shooting EJ I would say it would be an awful way to use the word.
I really don't think so. JS has always struck me as the guy who loves when Ej does dastardly things, and he loves twists in the story to make him do those things....and whether it was the Sydnapping or the shooting, both instances focused on EJ alone, not so much one of his pairings....it gave JS room to do whatever he wanted with the scene and that is usually what an actor looks for. The challenging storyline twists that usually mean more to an actor because they showcase themselves...IMHO that is what JS wanted to say back then regarding brilliant...in both instances IMHO it was something brilliant for him as an actor...regardless of if some fans thought it was actually brilliant or not....

I can understand that JS loves it when EJ does bad things I do too most of the time, or if he likes scenes that is challenging for him as an actor, but he could have said there are scenes coming up that as an actor I liked to do because they were challenging for me, but there are a twist coming up that I don´t think all my fans will be happy about using the word brilliant seems like poor judgement. Sami shooting EJ in the head wasn´t a challenging scene for him either but the scenes before that when he was acting drunk and suicidal. I did thought those scenes was great because he impressed me with his acting, so they could still have done those scenes but skipped the Sami shooting EJ part.

Anyway even if he liked the scenes where EJ faked Sydney´s death because of them being challening I also believe he loves Ejami and working with AS and I would think he should realize that Ej faking Sydney´s death might make it harder to pair Ejami in the future. I´m sure it most be possible to do challenging scenes for him without him doing terrible things to Sami.
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Because I'm procrastinating doing work and because I just want us all to love each other, I looked up the JS interviews. He actually referred to BOTH the Syndnapping and the shooting as a "brilliant twist." Yay! Everybody is right! Now let's all sing Kumbaya.
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Its not often as an EJ fan I get to see him go through guilt and fear of losing Sami over a crime he did not commit, that is another thing I am liking about these turn of events. This wasn't EJ's doing, he fell upon it and ended up in a really bad situation and the resulting push and pull between him and Sami is hopefully very rewarding.
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tomsawyer
Nov 7 2013, 09:30 AM
Because I'm procrastinating doing work and because I just want us all to love each other, I looked up the JS interviews. He actually referred to BOTH the Syndnapping and the shooting as a "brilliant twist." Yay! Everybody is right! Now let's all sing Kumbaya.
Thank you. I was just about to post the quotes! LOL

As I said, when James Scott says "brilliant" it's time to take cover. Jury's still out on "fantastic"!
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Anyway...let me come in here to actually do what I came to do this morning which was post my recap of yesterday's show.

I thought the Ej and Kristen scenes were a bit OTT, but they fit the cray so that is fine. I still think the JS overacts at times....and yesterday's scenes crossed that a few times.

I am not sure if we'll get a reveal today...I'm thinking tomorrow will be the bulk of the reveal with the Friday cliffhanger leaving us wanting to see wth is up on Monday....

I think Sami is by far going to be at Kate levels soon. I feel this Gabi/Nick/Wilson story will be all about Sami in about 2 months.....just like the previous one was....it's kind of sad if you ask me. I hope this time Will actually fights for his daughter if Gabi threatens to take her away....
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

tomsawyer
Nov 7 2013, 09:30 AM
Because I'm procrastinating doing work and because I just want us all to love each other, I looked up the JS interviews. He actually referred to BOTH the Syndnapping and the shooting as a "brilliant twist." Yay! Everybody is right! Now let's all sing Kumbaya.
I really don't want to work either...but I have a headache and didn't feel like looking up the info..but thanks to you my friend....we got the answer....YIPPEE!
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

gailwinters
Nov 7 2013, 09:35 AM
tomsawyer
Nov 7 2013, 09:30 AM
Because I'm procrastinating doing work and because I just want us all to love each other, I looked up the JS interviews. He actually referred to BOTH the Syndnapping and the shooting as a "brilliant twist." Yay! Everybody is right! Now let's all sing Kumbaya.
Thank you. I was just about to post the quotes! LOL

As I said, when James Scott says "brilliant" it's time to take cover. Jury's still out on "fantastic"!
It's like the word interesting for me....it takes a meaning all on it's own...and at least to me, if someone says this is interesting and then pauses, it leads me to immediately see it as a negative rather than a positive...lol...let's see what fantastic means to JS....we'll find out soon enough ya'll....

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SoapGal1
Nov 6 2013, 11:27 PM
MissLola
Nov 6 2013, 11:25 PM
I thought both ED and JS were over the top today. But it was fitting for this particular scene.
Yeah, that was me.

It was OTT but it fit the situation.
Yeah, I'd be all kinds of OTT if I found out my sister raped a priest. Actually, I wouldn't be, because it would be an underreaction not to scream and flail after getting that news.
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Mouse Mom


Marlena's hair looks great, I think that suit works for her.
Love Nicole's hair and love the dress!
Dr. Dan is being a good friend.
And not a super EJ fan but let's get real, he is in a no win situation. If he keeps the secret, he has to deal with the rath of the she devil sooner or later, but if he tells Sami, she goes nuts and lots of people deal with the she devil right now. hmmm think I can actually go with him keeping the secret and postponing the inevitable.
And Sami needs to dress like a grown woman and stop trying to pretend she is still 21.
Edited by Mouse Mom, Nov 7 2013, 10:13 AM.
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LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 09:38 AM
Anyway...let me come in here to actually do what I came to do this morning which was post my recap of yesterday's show.

I thought the Ej and Kristen scenes were a bit OTT, but they fit the cray so that is fine. I still think the JS overacts at times....and yesterday's scenes crossed that a few times.
I am not sure if we'll get a reveal today...I'm thinking tomorrow will be the bulk of the reveal with the Friday cliffhanger leaving us wanting to see wth is up on Monday....

I think Sami is by far going to be at Kate levels soon. I feel this Gabi/Nick/Wilson story will be all about Sami in about 2 months.....just like the previous one was....it's kind of sad if you ask me. I hope this time Will actually fights for his daughter if Gabi threatens to take her away....
I have a theory about where the Gabi/Nick/Wilson/Ejami/Kate story is going and if I'm right, I think all the players will be pretty equally involved.

I think most of the aftermath of the wedding reveal will be in the Ericole/Brady/Marlena story. Those characters have been working together a lot and I think the fallout will mostly be directed there.

EJ and Sami will have a short estrangement, but then they will be part of an umbrella story with Wilson, et al.

The setup for a wedding disaster was very well done today, between the EJ/Kristen and Victor scenes. I just want to see Kristen pause as she's walking down the aisle and stroke that Glock to make sure it's handy. Marge got to play with her gun, it's only fair that Kristen gets to do the same.

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six
Nov 7 2013, 09:59 AM
SoapGal1
Nov 6 2013, 11:27 PM
MissLola
Nov 6 2013, 11:25 PM
I thought both ED and JS were over the top today. But it was fitting for this particular scene.
Yeah, that was me.

It was OTT but it fit the situation.
Yeah, I'd be all kinds of OTT if I found out my sister raped a priest. Actually, I wouldn't be, because it would be an underreaction not to scream and flail after getting that news.

EJ is a rapist himself so I didn´t think it made sense that he was disgusted by what Kristen did, but should have been more concern about how it would effect Sami. It was partly the script fault but I think JS yelled a bit to much about there being a video, other than that I enjoyed the EJ/Kristen scenes
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S loves EJ
Nov 7 2013, 10:29 AM
six
Nov 7 2013, 09:59 AM
SoapGal1
Nov 6 2013, 11:27 PM
MissLola
Nov 6 2013, 11:25 PM
I thought both ED and JS were over the top today. But it was fitting for this particular scene.
Yeah, that was me.

It was OTT but it fit the situation.
Yeah, I'd be all kinds of OTT if I found out my sister raped a priest. Actually, I wouldn't be, because it would be an underreaction not to scream and flail after getting that news.

EJ is a rapist himself so I didn´t think it made sense that he was disgusted by what Kristen did, but should have been more concern about how it would effect Sami. It was partly the script fault but I think JS yelled a bit to much about there being a video, other than that I enjoyed the EJ/Kristen scenes
I'll pretend to agree that EJ is a rapist long enough to point out that you can do something, regret it and be disgusted by the act when someone else does it.
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LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 09:42 AM
gailwinters
Nov 7 2013, 09:35 AM
tomsawyer
Nov 7 2013, 09:30 AM
Because I'm procrastinating doing work and because I just want us all to love each other, I looked up the JS interviews. He actually referred to BOTH the Syndnapping and the shooting as a "brilliant twist." Yay! Everybody is right! Now let's all sing Kumbaya.
Thank you. I was just about to post the quotes! LOL

As I said, when James Scott says "brilliant" it's time to take cover. Jury's still out on "fantastic"!
It's like the word interesting for me....it takes a meaning all on it's own...and at least to me, if someone says this is interesting and then pauses, it leads me to immediately see it as a negative rather than a positive...lol...let's see what fantastic means to JS....we'll find out soon enough ya'll....

It always makes me a bit nauseous when JS says something is "brilliant".

He does like playing EJ as "a bit of a prick", & I think he likes those kinds of scenes best.

Having said that, I just don't think we're going to get a long term breakup out of this story. I could be wrong, & honestly I'd like it if I was. Ejami need some genuine angst. Something to keep them apart for awhile so they can long to be together. Angsty looks across a room, almost kisses, denying feelings...you get my drift.

I've just come off of watching the S&K poisoning storyline & I loved all the angst that was tied up in that story. I wish tptb would go back & watch some of this...it would do all the couples on Days some good.
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SoapGal1
Nov 7 2013, 10:58 AM
LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 09:42 AM
gailwinters
Nov 7 2013, 09:35 AM
tomsawyer
Nov 7 2013, 09:30 AM
Because I'm procrastinating doing work and because I just want us all to love each other, I looked up the JS interviews. He actually referred to BOTH the Syndnapping and the shooting as a "brilliant twist." Yay! Everybody is right! Now let's all sing Kumbaya.
Thank you. I was just about to post the quotes! LOL

As I said, when James Scott says "brilliant" it's time to take cover. Jury's still out on "fantastic"!
It's like the word interesting for me....it takes a meaning all on it's own...and at least to me, if someone says this is interesting and then pauses, it leads me to immediately see it as a negative rather than a positive...lol...let's see what fantastic means to JS....we'll find out soon enough ya'll....

It always makes me a bit nauseous when JS says something is "brilliant".

He does like playing EJ as "a bit of a prick", & I think he likes those kinds of scenes best.

Having said that, I just don't think we're going to get a long term breakup out of this story. I could be wrong, & honestly I'd like it if I was. Ejami need some genuine angst. Something to keep them apart for awhile so they can long to be together. Angsty looks across a room, almost kisses, denying feelings...you get my drift.

I've just come off of watching the S&K poisoning storyline & I loved all the angst that was tied up in that story. I wish tptb would go back & watch some of this...it would do all the couples on Days some good.
On this note you should know, I partially blame you for making 2013Days a lot less entertaining.
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Nov 7 2013, 11:00 AM
SoapGal1
Nov 7 2013, 10:58 AM
LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 09:42 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 09:35 AM

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It's like the word interesting for me....it takes a meaning all on it's own...and at least to me, if someone says this is interesting and then pauses, it leads me to immediately see it as a negative rather than a positive...lol...let's see what fantastic means to JS....we'll find out soon enough ya'll....

It always makes me a bit nauseous when JS says something is "brilliant".

He does like playing EJ as "a bit of a prick", & I think he likes those kinds of scenes best.

Having said that, I just don't think we're going to get a long term breakup out of this story. I could be wrong, & honestly I'd like it if I was. Ejami need some genuine angst. Something to keep them apart for awhile so they can long to be together. Angsty looks across a room, almost kisses, denying feelings...you get my drift.

I've just come off of watching the S&K poisoning storyline & I loved all the angst that was tied up in that story. I wish tptb would go back & watch some of this...it would do all the couples on Days some good.
On this note you should know, I partially blame you for making 2013Days a lot less entertaining.
But now you love S&K so it's totes worth it!!
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Our regulars seem to be having a perfectly civil conversation, so if you're new here please review the rules and take a cue from the people who can disagree without being jerks. And yes, that does mean that someone in this conversation isn't being civil. ;)
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

SoapGal1
Nov 7 2013, 11:03 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 11:00 AM
SoapGal1
Nov 7 2013, 10:58 AM
LuvingLumi
Nov 7 2013, 09:42 AM

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It always makes me a bit nauseous when JS says something is "brilliant".

He does like playing EJ as "a bit of a prick", & I think he likes those kinds of scenes best.

Having said that, I just don't think we're going to get a long term breakup out of this story. I could be wrong, & honestly I'd like it if I was. Ejami need some genuine angst. Something to keep them apart for awhile so they can long to be together. Angsty looks across a room, almost kisses, denying feelings...you get my drift.

I've just come off of watching the S&K poisoning storyline & I loved all the angst that was tied up in that story. I wish tptb would go back & watch some of this...it would do all the couples on Days some good.
On this note you should know, I partially blame you for making 2013Days a lot less entertaining.
But now you love S&K so it's totes worth it!!
I watched S&K deaf storyline a few years back and was mesmerized by how well written that was....they'll never do that nowadays...they are all into having the women bed hop and not commit long enough...I might not like Ejami but I think they had potential if they would have actually tackled some of their problems head on in 2007, and stopped writing Ej to be such an asshole that year... I think super couple type writing always showed that regardless of problems, the guy wanted to be with that girl adn the girl wanted to be with that guy. There was never a doubt in anyone's mind when watching the story and the stories were written that you couldn't spin it any other way, even if you wanted to. Nowadays the commitment isn't there from TPTB....I think it has a lot to do with budget, but also there are very few writers that can actually write that way anymore...and to be frank, I think their are very few fans who can actually wait around 2 years to get their couple to make love....nowadays everything has to be done fast.....it's the age of information, lol.
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Nov 7 2013, 10:48 AM
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Nov 6 2013, 11:27 PM

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Yeah, I'd be all kinds of OTT if I found out my sister raped a priest. Actually, I wouldn't be, because it would be an underreaction not to scream and flail after getting that news.

EJ is a rapist himself so I didn´t think it made sense that he was disgusted by what Kristen did, but should have been more concern about how it would effect Sami. It was partly the script fault but I think JS yelled a bit to much about there being a video, other than that I enjoyed the EJ/Kristen scenes
I'll pretend to agree that EJ is a rapist long enough to point out that you can do something, regret it and be disgusted by the act when someone else does it.

I think EJ regretting his actions was how it originally was written when Ejami discussed the raped and he said it was the biggest mistake of his life and that he would take it all back if he could but then they did the Rafe2 storyline, so now I´m not sure if it would sound believable if EJ were to say that he learned from his mistake, even if it didn´t seemed to me that EJ realized it was rape when Rafe2 had sex with Sami.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

S loves EJ
Nov 7 2013, 11:28 AM
six
Nov 7 2013, 10:48 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 09:59 AM

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EJ is a rapist himself so I didn´t think it made sense that he was disgusted by what Kristen did, but should have been more concern about how it would effect Sami. It was partly the script fault but I think JS yelled a bit to much about there being a video, other than that I enjoyed the EJ/Kristen scenes
I'll pretend to agree that EJ is a rapist long enough to point out that you can do something, regret it and be disgusted by the act when someone else does it.

I think EJ regretting his actions was how it originally was written when Ejami discussed the raped and he said it was the biggest mistake of his life and that he would take it all back if he could but then they did the Rafe2 storyline, so now I´m not sure if it would sound believable if EJ were to say that he learned from his mistake, even if it didn´t seemed to me that EJ realized it was rape when Rafe2 had sex with Sami.
I think the only constant they have shown in Ej's writing regardless of who writes him is that he doesn't learn from his mistakes. He even told Kristen that the reason he's lost Sami before was because of the lies and what does he do? Keep a secret for Kristen and in effect lie to Sami. He knows that doing what he's doing is going to be something that Sami is going to have trouble understanding and he does it anyway. IMHO it's even worse now that he has Sami...at least she's shown this time around that she's willing to stick by him...so why not trust her enough to tell her what's up.....
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Nov 7 2013, 11:21 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 11:03 AM
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Nov 7 2013, 10:58 AM

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On this note you should know, I partially blame you for making 2013Days a lot less entertaining.
But now you love S&K so it's totes worth it!!
I watched S&K deaf storyline a few years back and was mesmerized by how well written that was....they'll never do that nowadays...they are all into having the women bed hop and not commit long enough...I might not like Ejami but I think they had potential if they would have actually tackled some of their problems head on in 2007, and stopped writing Ej to be such an asshole that year... I think super couple type writing always showed that regardless of problems, the guy wanted to be with that girl adn the girl wanted to be with that guy. There was never a doubt in anyone's mind when watching the story and the stories were written that you couldn't spin it any other way, even if you wanted to. Nowadays the commitment isn't there from TPTB....I think it has a lot to do with budget, but also there are very few writers that can actually write that way anymore...and to be frank, I think their are very few fans who can actually wait around 2 years to get their couple to make love....nowadays everything has to be done fast.....it's the age of information, lol.
I completely agree.

I don't think the writing for any couple now, save Ericole, is anywhere near what we got back then. For one thing, we've changed writers so many times since 2006 &with each writer the characters took on new direction. It's hard to really have the same kind of love that you had for those 80's super couples with any of the present couplings.

I think Ericole has potential, if tptb will stay focused & stick with the story that's been laid out. Hopefully, the higher ups will stay out of it & let it develop.

As for Ejami, they've been the victim of so much crap storyline wise, for them to still have appeal & viewers still wanting them together speaks volumes. If tptb would stick to the story with them, give them some angst..they might be able to overcome all the bad writing of the past.
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