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Thursday, November 7th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 7 2013, 01:48 AM (23,689 Views)
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Nov 7 2013, 06:19 PM
lysie
Nov 7 2013, 06:13 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 06:09 PM
lysie
Nov 7 2013, 05:54 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI feel badly for EJ. But his line about what Kristen "always told me" was straight out laughable since they've known each other a year.

On the bold - why?
A) Because he obviously doesn't want to keep this secret
B) Because he wants very badly for his family to be different than they are, and he keeps letting himself fall right back into the same traps. Kristen might as well have just said straight out, "Yeah, I'd never do this for you." As much as he's made fun of the Hortons and the Bradys (usually with Kate), that's totally what he wants.
I'm really surprised. Even I don't really feel bad for him, and I always feel bad for him.
I'd feel less badly for him if this had happened earlier and he'd had more time to think about it. But really, it was more that exchange when he said he'd hoped she would do it for him because she loves her little brother, and it was just so clear that that was not the case. I think he's being an idiot, but I do feel badly for him. I don't feel bad for him that someone is going to be pissed at him. I feel badly for him because I think that one theme for him that has been there for him more often than not ( thought obviously not consistently) is that he wants a real family and 1) looks in the wrong places and 2) doesn't know what to do with one anyway.
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Nov 7 2013, 04:46 PM
I think it depends on the dress and the venue - short sleeves are OK in a wedding/cocktail attire atmosphere, but usually in a church and of course it depends on the dress whether it's appropriate or not, I've seen sleeveless dresses even strapless dresses all year long but if they are overly sexy based in a church it looks bad. I haven't seen the episode yet, but Sami's outfit (saw pics of) is horrific in a biker bar much less standing in a Catholic Church at the altar.
I'd say Sami's dress having no sleeves is the absolute least of the reasons it's inappropriate, LOL.
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Nov 7 2013, 06:17 PM
It was bizarre how EJ was measurably more shocked at the video than Sami. She seemed kind of blase about the whole thing. Of course I guess when you've had as many wedding disasters as Sami, nothing fazes you anymore.
I don't it's that bizarre, for a few reasons - not the least of which is I am very familiar with AS's acting skills. But Sami is probably still trying to process or understand what exactly it is she's watching, whereas EJ knows EXACTLY what this is about, EXACTLY what's been revealed, and EXACTLY how his lie to Sami is about to be exposed. He has more awareness plus more at stake, so he'd have a "stomach dropping/oh crap" reaction more than Sami would. Makes sense to me.

And yes - Sami's experience with MANY a wedding disaster has probably desensitized her a bit. In addition to sorting through registering what it is she's watching, she is probably sorting through feelings of deja vu as well.

Also JS is just a better actor generally - I think that's the main reason for the marked difference in the evocative quality of their reactions. ;)
Edited by elci525, Nov 7 2013, 06:39 PM.
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tomsawyer
Nov 7 2013, 06:27 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 04:46 PM
I think it depends on the dress and the venue - short sleeves are OK in a wedding/cocktail attire atmosphere, but usually in a church and of course it depends on the dress whether it's appropriate or not, I've seen sleeveless dresses even strapless dresses all year long but if they are overly sexy based in a church it looks bad. I haven't seen the episode yet, but Sami's outfit (saw pics of) is horrific in a biker bar much less standing in a Catholic Church at the altar.
I'd say Sami's dress having no sleeves is the absolute least of the reasons it's inappropriate, LOL.
LOL agreed! I am not thinking of Sami's sleeves (or lack there of) when I see here in the dress. And, whohhh boy, if there were MORE of that dress?? Think of the extra possibilities for even greater fashion disaster.
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lysie
Nov 7 2013, 05:57 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 05:54 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 05:28 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 05:12 PM

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he is supposed to put his family (Sami & the children) over his other family (father,mother,&siblings) he chose sister over Sami, that will be costly, temporarily costly knowing Msrolloverandscrew but costly. How would he feel if one of his siblings had been raped and she kept it secret? He should have took Sami and told her immediately!
The DiMera's are EJ's family too. He doesn't have to turn his back on them just because he's with someone (Sami). He can have divided loyalties, most people do.

Also, if the shoe was on the other foot and Eric had raped Kristen, and Sami knew about it, Sami would most certainly not tell on his brother. And yes, EJ would be mad about it, as Sami will now be, but that's par for the course.
I don't think Sami would tell on Eric either, but she and Eric have a much different kind of sibling relationship than Kristen and EJ.
This! I can see EJ not ratting out his sister if it would've been Lexie, but seriously, how am I supposed to buy this great Ejisten love when they've only known each other a year and have spent a good portion of that time not getting along or not interacting? They at least could've thrown in something around Chad's shooting like Kristen donating a kidney to save Chad's life or something to amp up the lovey sibling feelings. EJ can be stupid sometimes so I'll go with it, but the close relationship is pretty contrived.
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lysie
Nov 7 2013, 06:24 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 06:19 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 06:13 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 06:09 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI feel badly for EJ.
A) Because he obviously doesn't want to keep this secret
B) Because he wants very badly for his family to be different than they are, and he keeps letting himself fall right back into the same traps. Kristen might as well have just said straight out, "Yeah, I'd never do this for you." As much as he's made fun of the Hortons and the Bradys (usually with Kate), that's totally what he wants.
I'm really surprised. Even I don't really feel bad for him, and I always feel bad for him.
I'd feel less badly for him if this had happened earlier and he'd had more time to think about it. But really, it was more that exchange when he said he'd hoped she would do it for him because she loves her little brother, and it was just so clear that that was not the case. I think he's being an idiot, but I do feel badly for him. I don't feel bad for him that someone is going to be pissed at him. I feel badly for him because I think that one theme for him that has been there for him more often than not ( thought obviously not consistently) is that he wants a real family and 1) looks in the wrong places and 2) doesn't know what to do with one anyway.
I think my biggest hang up is that i don't believe he could have such a bond with someone who he's known for less than a year and it's hard for me to buy that EJ would think he does, either. But I see what you're saying and I'm going to try and go with the story that he really does feel, or want to feel, close enough for Kristen to think that they're committed to each other.
Edited by six, Nov 7 2013, 06:41 PM.
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Nov 7 2013, 06:38 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 06:24 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 06:19 PM
lysie
Nov 7 2013, 06:13 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI feel badly for EJ.
I'm really surprised. Even I don't really feel bad for him, and I always feel bad for him.
I'd feel less badly for him if this had happened earlier and he'd had more time to think about it. But really, it was more that exchange when he said he'd hoped she would do it for him because she loves her little brother, and it was just so clear that that was not the case. I think he's being an idiot, but I do feel badly for him. I don't feel bad for him that someone is going to be pissed at him. I feel badly for him because I think that one theme for him that has been there for him more often than not ( thought obviously not consistently) is that he wants a real family and 1) looks in the wrong places and 2) doesn't know what to do with one anyway.
I think my biggest hang up is that i don't believe he could have such a bond with someone who he's known for less than a year and it's hard for me to buy that EJ would think he does, either. But I see what you're saying and I'm going to try and go with the story that he really does feel, or want to feel, close enough for Kristen to think that they're committed to each other.
I don't think he believes it either but I think he wants to.
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My son is not a homersexual.

Sami was dressed for a hooker's funeral.
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did anyone else notice the photo of Daniel and Melanie behind the computer playing Kristen's sex tape?
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wait...why is Kristen's headboard in her room different from the one she and Brady are always in with the padded one? This one's wooden. #Confused
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"Kristen's got a gun"
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tomsawyer
Nov 7 2013, 06:34 PM
lysie
Nov 7 2013, 05:57 PM
Yoryla
Nov 7 2013, 05:54 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 05:28 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
The DiMera's are EJ's family too. He doesn't have to turn his back on them just because he's with someone (Sami). He can have divided loyalties, most people do.

Also, if the shoe was on the other foot and Eric had raped Kristen, and Sami knew about it, Sami would most certainly not tell on his brother. And yes, EJ would be mad about it, as Sami will now be, but that's par for the course.
I don't think Sami would tell on Eric either, but she and Eric have a much different kind of sibling relationship than Kristen and EJ.
This! I can see EJ not ratting out his sister if it would've been Lexie, but seriously, how am I supposed to buy this great Ejisten love when they've only known each other a year and have spent a good portion of that time not getting along or not interacting? They at least could've thrown in something around Chad's shooting like Kristen donating a kidney to save Chad's life or something to amp up the lovey sibling feelings. EJ can be stupid sometimes so I'll go with it, but the close relationship is pretty contrived.
I actually disagree. I think Sami would tell on Eric. Not right off the bat. She would struggle with it and the lost of faith in her brother. She's a rape survivor. I think that fact would, if written correctly, would make her see the situation in more than just sibling terms.

Honestly, there is just no comparing Sami and Eric's relationship to the Dimeras. Its apples versus rotten oranges.
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My son is not a homersexual.

This is something so incredibly creepy about the way Kristen says, "And what better way to get to a mother than through her children." The delivery is so evil!

@ 6:27 -

Edited by Graceland, Nov 7 2013, 06:59 PM.
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I am with marlena in everything she did in the wedding and if I am in Ej place I will tell the truth to sami even that mean that I will lose because it is a right thing beside what happened is kisten mistake and she don't want to admit it . if she have a courge she will face her opponent face to face instead of hurting incients.she is cowarad.
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Nov 7 2013, 06:47 PM
Sami was dressed for a hooker's funeral.
:lol: i love this statement. So true.
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wait....doesn't Sami still work at the company?? Why is she offering to help EJ? She works there.
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My son is not a homersexual.

Okay, now start watching at 6:45



She's hilarious. It's like speaking to a child. 'That's what we know.' It's like watching a crazy person doing their version of a comedy skit. She's so delightfully demented. 'Oh, there's a video but...' 'Oh, it's amazing.' '... and then I'm going to slip him something at the wedding -- it won't kill him!' :drunk: :rockon: :hail: :popcorn: :lol:

"YOU'RE INSANE!" will be etched on Kristen's tombstone.
Edited by Graceland, Nov 7 2013, 07:05 PM.
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Nov 7 2013, 05:47 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 05:38 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 02:45 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 02:36 PM
AS is just god awful!
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WAIT, was this DURING THE REVEAL?! :o

Omg, what a horrible FAIL if so!
Who ever is responsible for this ensemble needs a pink slip -
AS traded in her dino braid of the past 3 days for that horrid bump it ponytail. Whoever chose that horrid dress and shoes for a wedding scene in a church, no less, is an idiot with no taste...total epic wardrobe fail. Of course, her acting matched her clothes in every way.
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i can't tell you how much i love watching EJ kowtow to Kristen; it's awesome.


If she comes back again they should do an EJ vs. Kristen storyline with Kristen trying to takeover the company from him.
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My son is not a homersexual.

blueskies
Nov 7 2013, 06:58 PM
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Nov 7 2013, 06:47 PM
Sami was dressed for a hooker's funeral.
:lol: i love this statement. So true.
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