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DR Day of Days Interview with Drake Hogestyn
Topic Started: Nov 11 2013, 12:38 AM (5,163 Views)
AFaithL


Brewster
Nov 11 2013, 10:26 AM


I hope that is the core extent of the John/Hope stuff and they don't go bonding or commiserating because shudder and yuck.



Yep. Or John and any other woman.
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Laufeyson
Nov 11 2013, 01:31 AM
I don't think it does, Marlena, I think will still be shown as being upset over that horribly, ill-conceived idea. Now they are both upset at each other and it's going to take that much longer to work through their problems. I just hope in the end that is what happens after John sorts out his son.
John is completely unjustified in finding any fault with Marlena. That is insane, IMO. Just another lame-assed way for the writers to try to add to the rift between them and put them on equal ground. Too bad it's completely bogus and makes no sense. :shrug: this needs to be about John redeeming himself and explaining his ridiculous idea to save his grown adult son.
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Kriss4
Nov 11 2013, 01:32 AM
Am I understanding that John's gonna try to avert Marlena's attention from what he did to what she did?

What she did, she did without knowing all the facts. Victor kept them from her. She was trying to protect Brady in the long run, and she had no idea that Eric was the man in the video with Kristen.

John admitted that he WANTED Kristen, or at least he didn't deny wanting her. He may have started off with the sole intention of protecting Brady, but in the end, he was tempted to cheat with the woman who once tried to kill Marlena. That's off the charts, IMO.

To me, there just isn't any comparison, and for John to try to make one is not so good.
I hope they didn't bring john back just to ruin him further, because it isn't going to work in his favor if he starts going at Marlena about the church fiasco. And if he and Brady get together to bash Marlena, they can both go to hell, and I'll be D O N E.
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Supergirlx2
Nov 11 2013, 01:46 AM
Hummm
Nov 11 2013, 01:42 AM
I really want to know what John has for Hope(I just hope it isn't bad news,Hope need happiness and fun time).
Hope can't really have genuine happiness & fun times if she's attached to an off-screen Bo. That's why I'm hoping what John has for Hope is actually bad news, or confirmation of bad news she had gotten prior.
As long as Hope doesn't get together with John :'( I don't think that will happen, if they keep Hope in character (she knows john belongs with Marlena). Let her play matchmaker for them B-)
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Kriss4
Nov 11 2013, 01:50 AM
Laufeyson
Nov 11 2013, 01:41 AM
I do not think John wanted Kristen at all.
That's not what it sounded like when he talked to Marlena outside the pub.
It wasn't that simple.
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Laufeyson
Nov 11 2013, 07:49 AM
AFaithL
Nov 11 2013, 04:58 AM
Laufeyson
Nov 11 2013, 01:51 AM
Kriss4
Nov 11 2013, 01:50 AM

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He was trying to sell his stupid plot not only to convince Marlena but Kristen. It was all an act.
Then he needs to tell her that. I am still waiting for John's explanation on his "feelings" for Kristen. Because I was led to believe by ALL OTHER headwriting regimes that he couldn't have given less of a shit about her for around 18 years. Was he just bullshitting Marlena outside the pub? Or not?

Sounds to me that Drake is trying to rewrite a rewrite.

I want answers from John. It needs to be clarified and fixed.
This is not entirely a bad thing. It's not like the writing was Pulitzer prize writing.

Perhaps John was just too proud to admit he was wrong.
The writing was ridiculous. I don't think you can explain it. It made no sense that he admitted that in order to do what he did with Kritter that he must have had SOME feelings for her. Um, NO, you don't have feelings for someone that you are trying to destroy, or for someone you never mentioned once since she disappeared. It is true that at one time he loved the woman, but only because he couldn't have Marlena. Perhaps TomSell need to brush up on their history.
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Love Drake. :wub:




Ok,why is it ok for John to come up with a crazy plan to prove to Brady that Kritter was a selfish bitch,but it's not ok for Marlena,I know Marlena and Victors plan was more public,but I don't think your fiancée sleeping with your father would of been any less embaressing,sounds like John will be a little hypocritical,had his plan worked,Brady probably would of gone into a downward spiral just like he is gonna.
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The Room Stops
Nov 11 2013, 09:49 AM
Reese
Nov 11 2013, 01:22 AM
Interesting take on things. Not sure how Marlena's inadvertent bumbling (at the wedding) in anyway mitigates John's ill-conceived plan to out Kristen, but I guess we'll see. Glad Drake's back so all of these issues can be addressed.
That's what I'm hopeful for. I really want them to deal with those issues. John & Marlena are not Bo and Hope, or Jack and Jennifer. Their problems as a married couple didn't stem from insecurity in each other's love, or each other's behavior. Once they were together, they were committed, and together. They were apart and best friends for years, but when they were together, they were together for good. Outside sources tried (Roman, Eric, Sami, Gina, Brady, Tony, Alex), but they were never not fully committed to each other and completely in love with each other. That's why the last year was so out of character. That just wasn't John, as Drake said. And so it should be addressed, and dealt with. John & Marlena used to fight and bicker, but without getting nasty. This time, just let them be a little gritty and down - because they love each other, they just disagree/hate what the other person did. Although, I'm not sure how John will justify what HE did while loathing what Marlena did (slash... was forced to do). Does John even know that Victor set her up to do that? And I'm glad Marlena will actually say that he "has no part in this", because he left. He sort of gave up his right to have an opinion on that when he just abandoned her, with their son in the middle of an accident waiting to happen. She at least didn't make plans to screw somebody else or kill somebody else. She set out to prove what was right.
I wish the writers would let The DH's consult with the writers to help them understand the foundation if J&M's relationship. Those two know these character's better than anyone (except perhaps their fans, LOL)
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Rosebud
Nov 11 2013, 11:25 AM
Laufeyson
Nov 11 2013, 01:31 AM
I don't think it does, Marlena, I think will still be shown as being upset over that horribly, ill-conceived idea. Now they are both upset at each other and it's going to take that much longer to work through their problems. I just hope in the end that is what happens after John sorts out his son.
John is completely unjustified in finding any fault with Marlena. That is insane, IMO. Just another lame-assed way for the writers to try to add to the rift between them and put them on equal ground. Too bad it's completely bogus and makes no sense. :shrug: this needs to be about John redeeming himself and explaining his ridiculous idea to save his grown adult son.
The only "reasonable" issue I can see John having with Marlena is her telling him he's not a part of this and to go away. Just because he went away, doesn't mean he doesn't care. (I'm not saying he wasn't an idiot and an a**hole before he left. He was the reigning king.) However, telling him to go away, to butt out if he's seen the error of his ways and come home to start making amends…. Then how does that make things better? That's basically telling him to keep being and idiot and an a**hole. If they build John's issues with Marlena around that, I can maybe see a certain validity. If they build it around John's disapproval of Marlena's actions leading up to his exodus and during his absence, well then it's going to be a much tougher sale. One that quite frankly, I don't believe this writing staff or Drake is up to spinning successfully.
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Marlena did what she did without all the facts,Victor manipulated her,he knew her hatred of Kristen,but he also knew if she knew Eric was in that video she would never show it to people.


John,on the other hand,he knew exactly what he was doing.



If the writers just brought him back to screw up my couple further,I will be beyond angry.
Edited by Snowing Fan, Nov 11 2013, 12:00 PM.
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Oh John Black, paddling up Shit Creek better be an arduous journey for you.
Edited by mer4santo, Nov 11 2013, 11:59 AM.
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And he wasn’t really the sharpest knife in the drawer. He could have come up with other ways probably.

Amen to that!!! I hope they write John admitting that and that his plan was very wrong-headed.

As an actor it was very challenging because it went against character traits that I had developed. It goes back to John and the one thing that he would never do is hurt her or destroy her. That’s where I had a hard time and had to play the Biblical sense of blood is thicker than water.


I guess it was just as hard for him to play as it was for me to watch. Major failure on the writers part. MAJOR fail :flipoff: and they need to fix it!
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Bottom line, John's storyline needs to be kissing Marlena's ass for the next 5 years and verbally fixing the bullshit history he spewed the last year.
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The Room Stops
Nov 11 2013, 09:49 AM
Although, I'm not sure how John will justify what HE did while loathing what Marlena did (slash... was forced to do). Does John even know that Victor set her up to do that? And I'm glad Marlena will actually say that he "has no part in this", because he left. He sort of gave up his right to have an opinion on that when he just abandoned her, with their son in the middle of an accident waiting to happen. She at least didn't make plans to screw somebody else or kill somebody else. She set out to prove what was right.
Amen to this!!!

It would be great if he confronted Victor for what he did, and defends Marlena. I would love John and Victor to rekindle their distaste for each other!
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AFaithL
Nov 11 2013, 10:02 AM
I don't want him groveling ---- I want him fixing the history. I want him stating the truth of his history. And I want him taking back the LIE that he has "unresolved feelings" or an "unresolved attraction" towards Kristen.

Doing something stupid to save his son is one thing. His conversation outside the pub where said that "some deep, dark part of him still has feelings for Kristen" and that's why he could go through with it, is another. That's where the rewritten history comes in, and that's what needs to be repudiated with historically accurate truth.
I completely agree! But I'm not sure if that's exactly what he said. He said something more along the line of... He wouldn't have been able to go through with having sex with Kristen if there wasn't some part of him that still had feelings for her. Like the old feelings he had for her, and he did love her at one time. I'd even say he was obsessed with her. But he was only involved with her at all because he couldn't be with Marlena. Marlena is the love if his life. But he has loved other women, and they could explain it that he had to call up those feelings he once had for Kristen in order to do what he did. I don't think it has to mean that those feelings for Kristen were/are current or trump anything he has for Marlena. It could just be feeling he once had and had to conjure up in order to go through with it, or he wouldn't have been able to do it, and he obviously felt he had no other choice, which was stupid, and he needs to admit it was wrong.
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John,your plan or Marlena's plan were always gonna have the same result,Brady being hurt,Brady being collateral damage.
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AFaithL
Nov 11 2013, 12:09 PM
Bottom line, John's storyline needs to be kissing Marlena's ass for the next 5 years and verbally fixing the bullshit history he spewed the last year.
Yeah, like that's what anyone wants to spend the rest of there life with. Why would you even want John to come back if he's going to spend the rest of his days as a pathetic, little *****-whipped, a**kisser? That's not a man, that's a lap dog. If that's the vision, then forget it. Let him return, make one last noble, heroic signature John Black saves the day sacrifice and then kill him off as the man we know and love. Don't force us to watch him slowly turned into a eunuch who cowers to Marlena's every whim while holding her purse in his hands.
Edited by GatesRhiannon, Nov 11 2013, 12:29 PM.
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Snowing Fan
Nov 11 2013, 12:24 PM
John,your plan or Marlena's plan were always gonna have the same result,Brady being hurt,Brady being collateral damage.
Wanna bet Brady doesn't care that so many people, especially John and Marlena, sacrificed so much to help him? Bet he simply blames them all for ruining his life. :rolleyes:
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GatesRhiannon
Nov 11 2013, 12:27 PM
AFaithL
Nov 11 2013, 12:09 PM
Bottom line, John's storyline needs to be kissing Marlena's ass for the next 5 years and verbally fixing the bullshit history he spewed the last year.
Yeah, like that's what anyone wants to spend the rest of there life with. Why would you even want John to come back if he's going to spend the rest of his days as a pathetic, little *****-whipped, a**kisser? That's not a man, that's a lap dog. If that's the vision, then forget it. Let him return, make one last noble, heroic signature John Black saves the day sacrifice and then kill him off as the man we know and love. Don't force us to watch him slowly turned into a eunuch who cowers to Marlena's every whim while holding her purse in his hands.
I honestly think she was just using hyperbole. That's how I took it anyway. Because i want John to express very strongly how sorry he was for the way he treated her. Remember how cold he was? Wouldn't even talk to her. Barely gave her a passing glance--just bowed out of their life together without a word. He sacrificed her for his son. A grown man.

He does need to make amends. Even if she rejects him, he needs to vow to never stop trying.
Edited by Rosebud, Nov 11 2013, 12:43 PM.
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Brady needs to admit he's been a dumbass for over a year.
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