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DR Day of Days Interview with Eric Martsolf; Combined with "John's mother" thread
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Topic Started: Nov 11 2013, 02:44 PM (6,793 Views)
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Nov 15 2013, 03:49 PM
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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EM hinting they are undoing both leads me to believe they will say the entire story was a hoax by Stefano and Ej. It's the easiest way to go back to what it was before without coming out with a new mother for John, etc
The writers seems pretty committed to Ejami, so I seriously doubt they would do that it would be pretty impossible for Sami to forgive that at least in the nearest future. If it would be a hoax it would be all Stefanoīs doing without EJīs knowledge, unless EJ would find out about it now and keep quite, but I donīt see him knowing all along. Still I Think it more likely they will make someone else Santeens baby, maybe Ian and maybe the new character that will be coming to town with a son and a mysterious past is his son. The show needs more Dimeras now when Kristen gone that can fight with EJ over the Dimera legacy. rewriting that story doesn't end Ejami....Ejami is Ejami...Santeen was Santeen....so you can absolutely take away Santeen and Ejami can still be going strong for years.....
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Nov 15 2013, 03:50 PM
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isnt john black mother colline shawn sr sister .???
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Mitchapalooza
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Nov 15 2013, 05:09 PM
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^ My face watching DAYS
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Ok so John is NOT a DiMera...PLEASE MAKE IT TRUE!
I want him to be an Alamain like he was BEFORE Santeen
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Mitchapalooza
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Nov 15 2013, 05:10 PM
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isnt john black mother colline shawn sr sister .??? John's parents as of right now are Santo DiMera and Colleen Brady.
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Nov 15 2013, 05:12 PM
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I think it was a good idea to rewrite the root of the Dimera/Brady feud, because the original story was a flimsy explanation for a 30 year long story. Days should have just stuck with the initial story that Pete Brady killed santeen.
There was never any reason to make up a Brady-DiMera feud origins story. We saw the origin as it happened. Stefano was a criminal who came to Salem and was investigated by Roman Brady. It was as simple as that. Santeen ranks right up there with the stupidest stories that Days has ever done. If the writers are really fixing that mess then I am very pleased.
I know the original story, and as I said, I think it was flimsy, and that it makes no sense that Stefano would dedicate decades of his life and of his children's lives to trying to destroy some random cop. I don't agree that it's flimsy because that's not all that it was. That's just how it started, and then the more he went after them, the more they pushed back. At this point, the origin of the story is really the least of the issues they've all had.
My only real issue with this change is that if they had any intention of writing this, they really should have been throwing in some comments about John and Brady being DiMeras/Bradys. It hasn't been mentioned nearly enough to do a whole story ending it, lol.
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Nov 15 2013, 05:13 PM
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I think it was a good idea to rewrite the root of the Dimera/Brady feud, because the original story was a flimsy explanation for a 30 year long story. Days should have just stuck with the initial story that Pete Brady killed santeen.
There was never any reason to make up a Brady-DiMera feud origins story. We saw the origin as it happened. Stefano was a criminal who came to Salem and was investigated by Roman Brady. It was as simple as that. Santeen ranks right up there with the stupidest stories that Days has ever done. If the writers are really fixing that mess then I am very pleased.
I know the original story, and as I said, I think it was flimsy, and that it makes no sense that Stefano would dedicate decades of his life and of his children's lives to trying to destroy some random cop.
I don't agree that it's flimsy because that's not all that it was. That's just how it started, and then the more he went after them, the more they pushed back. At this point, the origin of the story is really the least of the issues they've all had. My only real issue with this change is that if they had any intention of writing this, they really should have been throwing in some comments about John and Brady being DiMeras/Bradys. It hasn't been mentioned nearly enough to do a whole story ending it, lol. Considering there is about 4 months of material to come since DH just returned...perhaps we will start seeing more of this mentioned.
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Nov 15 2013, 05:36 PM
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I think it was a good idea to rewrite the root of the Dimera/Brady feud, because the original story was a flimsy explanation for a 30 year long story. Days should have just stuck with the initial story that Pete Brady killed santeen.
There was never any reason to make up a Brady-DiMera feud origins story. We saw the origin as it happened. Stefano was a criminal who came to Salem and was investigated by Roman Brady. It was as simple as that. Santeen ranks right up there with the stupidest stories that Days has ever done. If the writers are really fixing that mess then I am very pleased.
I know the original story, and as I said, I think it was flimsy, and that it makes no sense that Stefano would dedicate decades of his life and of his children's lives to trying to destroy some random cop.
I don't agree that it's flimsy because that's not all that it was. That's just how it started, and then the more he went after them, the more they pushed back. At this point, the origin of the story is really the least of the issues they've all had. My only real issue with this change is that if they had any intention of writing this, they really should have been throwing in some comments about John and Brady being DiMeras/Bradys. It hasn't been mentioned nearly enough to do a whole story ending it, lol. Yes, but without high stakes, i don't see why Stefano would have bothered; it's not like he lost so much that it would make sense to keep the feud going. Even with Stefano being crazy, with the current back story, I would think at some point, he'd just move (both on and out of Salem).
I do agree on your other point. Earlier in the thread I was saying that they've had several good opportunities to play up John's current paternity. The bristen story could have used a few mentions about cousins marrying, then we had that little Sami/Brady moment regarding Theresa...
It makes me wonder if it will actually be a story or if John will just be like "Nevermind about that whole Ryan Dimera" thing, then thrady goes off and sleeps together.
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Nov 15 2013, 05:40 PM
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And I just realized, if (IF!) the Brady/Theresa theory is true, this will be the second time Eric Martsolf falls for a Theresa on a soap :wub: Lol.
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Nov 15 2013, 06:35 PM
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I know the original story, and as I said, I think it was flimsy, and that it makes no sense that Stefano would dedicate decades of his life and of his children's lives to trying to destroy some random cop.
I don't agree that it's flimsy because that's not all that it was. That's just how it started, and then the more he went after them, the more they pushed back. At this point, the origin of the story is really the least of the issues they've all had. My only real issue with this change is that if they had any intention of writing this, they really should have been throwing in some comments about John and Brady being DiMeras/Bradys. It hasn't been mentioned nearly enough to do a whole story ending it, lol.
Yes, but without high stakes, i don't see why Stefano would have bothered; it's not like he lost so much that it would make sense to keep the feud going. Even with Stefano being crazy, with the current back story, I would think at some point, he'd just move (both on and out of Salem). I do agree on your other point. Earlier in the thread I was saying that they've had several good opportunities to play up John's current paternity. The bristen story could have used a few mentions about cousins marrying, then we had that little Sami/Brady moment regarding Theresa... It makes me wonder if it will actually be a story or if John will just be like "Nevermind about that whole Ryan Dimera" thing, then thrady goes off and sleeps together. I never even saw it as a Brady/DiMera feud. It was Roman vs Stefano, and after Roman's death it was Bo and Marlena against Stefano. And all the other Stefano storylines after that, in 1988 and the 90s, had nothing to do with that feud.
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Nov 15 2013, 06:54 PM
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Exactly. Didn't Stefano hate John first because he was supposed to be Roman? And then just kept on hating him after he wasn't anymore? Or am I missing something?
Nope. That's right. Also, I'm not entire sure Stefano was even around for the bulk of RoJohn's initial story. It was all about Victor who had custody of "The Pawn" (hence while the RoJohn/Isabella romance was problematic for a while). Stefano's animosity against John AS John didn't really happen until his romantic obsession over Marlena began in the 90s (because I don't believe his torment of Marlena previously had been anything to do with romance, just a transferred revenge ploy extending from Roman) alongside his desire to see Tony/Kristen married while John proved to be an obstacle for. This show loves to make up new explanations out of thing air for things that have already been explained. lol There's also John's backstory and history with Stefano that has changed under different writers. When Reilly wrote in the 90s, it was revealed that "Father John" found out about Stefano's crimes and what he had done to Rachel, but Stefano couldn't kill a priest so he erased his memory and held him prisoner.
Then under SSM it was revealed that Father John worked with Princess Gina for Stefano, they fell in love and planned to leave, Stefano found out about it and punished them by locking Gina in the castle turret and sending John to Salem as the Pawn.
Later under Langan it was written that John was never a priest, it was just a cover while John worked for Stefano as a mercenary. During that time period John had alot of flashbacks of doing various missions for Stefano.
So John's past with Stefano is as compliacted as his paternity.
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Nov 15 2013, 09:12 PM
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I think it was a good idea to rewrite the root of the Dimera/Brady feud, because the original story was a flimsy explanation for a 30 year long story. Days should have just stuck with the initial story that Pete Brady killed santeen.
There was never any reason to make up a Brady-DiMera feud origins story. We saw the origin as it happened. Stefano was a criminal who came to Salem and was investigated by Roman Brady. It was as simple as that. Santeen ranks right up there with the stupidest stories that Days has ever done. If the writers are really fixing that mess then I am very pleased. Who wrote that Santeen horror story?
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And I just realized, if (IF!) the Brady/Theresa theory is true, this will be the second time Eric Martsolf falls for a Theresa on a soap :wub: Lol. Oh, is that the reason they changed her name to Theresa? :whistle:
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Nov 15 2013, 09:30 PM
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And I just realized, if (IF!) the Brady/Theresa theory is true, this will be the second time Eric Martsolf falls for a Theresa on a soap :wub: Lol. Does this mean Kristen's the equivalent of Gwen? And Stefano is Rebecca?
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Nov 15 2013, 09:32 PM
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I think it was a good idea to rewrite the root of the Dimera/Brady feud, because the original story was a flimsy explanation for a 30 year long story. Days should have just stuck with the initial story that Pete Brady killed santeen.
There was never any reason to make up a Brady-DiMera feud origins story. We saw the origin as it happened. Stefano was a criminal who came to Salem and was investigated by Roman Brady. It was as simple as that. Santeen ranks right up there with the stupidest stories that Days has ever done. If the writers are really fixing that mess then I am very pleased.
Who wrote that Santeen horror story? The HW was Hogan Shaeffer.
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Nov 15 2013, 09:33 PM
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I swear if Brady and Theresa sleep together, I'm going to puke.
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Nov 15 2013, 10:21 PM
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And I just realized, if (IF!) the Brady/Theresa theory is true, this will be the second time Eric Martsolf falls for a Theresa on a soap :wub: Lol.
Oh, is that the reason they changed her name to Theresa? :whistle: Haha! I have no idea where they got "Theresa" from. The only thing that I could ever think of was that the writers figured it would be too confusing to have a "Jeannie" and a "Jen" in the same story. Although, if the audience can keep up with a show that has a "John" and a "Johnny", a "Gabi" and an "Abby", an "EJ" and a "JJ", and a character whose first name is also the last name of half the town (Brady), I really don't see the problem with having a Jeannie and a Jennifer, lol.
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Nov 15 2013, 10:44 PM
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And I just realized, if (IF!) the Brady/Theresa theory is true, this will be the second time Eric Martsolf falls for a Theresa on a soap :wub: Lol.
Oh, is that the reason they changed her name to Theresa? :whistle:
Haha! I have no idea where they got "Theresa" from. The only thing that I could ever think of was that the writers figured it would be too confusing to have a "Jeannie" and a "Jen" in the same story. Although, if the audience can keep up with a show that has a "John" and a "Johnny", a "Gabi" and an "Abby", an "EJ" and a "JJ", and a character whose first name is also the last name of half the town (Brady), I really don't see the problem with having a Jeannie and a Jennifer, lol. true! I sortof have a weird wish to see Hope/Brady together though. Partially b/c I'd love to see her struggling remembering Bo everytime she called Brady by his name. I think she'd have to call him Black.
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Nov 16 2013, 09:26 AM
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I'm not looking forward to that pairing but when it happens they will always be BradyJean to me.
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Nov 16 2013, 09:50 AM
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I'm not looking forward to that pairing but when it happens they will always be BradyJean to me. Beanie T to me. :blulaugh:
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Nov 16 2013, 10:39 AM
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I think it was a good idea to rewrite the root of the Dimera/Brady feud, because the original story was a flimsy explanation for a 30 year long story. Days should have just stuck with the initial story that Pete Brady killed santeen.
There was never any reason to make up a Brady-DiMera feud origins story. We saw the origin as it happened. Stefano was a criminal who came to Salem and was investigated by Roman Brady. It was as simple as that. Santeen ranks right up there with the stupidest stories that Days has ever done. If the writers are really fixing that mess then I am very pleased.
Who wrote that Santeen horror story?
The HW was Hogan Shaeffer. I think Hogan Sheffer most certainly had his fingerprints on the pornstache part of Santeen as HW. Although most of that trash took place during the DOOL ficore mess from the WGA strike, before Sheffer was fired, and I think it was hard to tell who did what back then.
But I'm pretty sure Dena Higley was responsible for the Santeen part about John's parentage. Shirley Jones did not appear to do the death bed reveal scenes until after Higley was credited as HW. I recall one of Sheffer's fired staff writers blogging that John was on a plane to Ireland and the writer now had no idea what would happen when John got there. I also seem to remember Corday saying Higley got the job because she had done much of the work on the s/l and had a great idea for its resolution. :blink:
Edited by KAM, Nov 16 2013, 11:28 AM.
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