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Tuesday, November 19th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 19 2013, 12:11 AM (12,811 Views)
Sevprince
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metitle
Nov 19 2013, 01:58 PM
now that's an ending.
Sonny to Gabi: "you selfish bitch"
Finally, someone called a spade a spade. Thanks Victor's spirit for possessing Sonny.
I'm sure this will blow away in few days and everyone will be the best of friends again. :eyeroll:

I so don't care to get into discussion about this story. I have the experience to know now that it won't go anywhere and will not waste my energy on it.
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Ophelia
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Shane and Kim were before my time, but I loved seeing the Brady clan rounded out a little. I think they have to be frequent visitors or permanently return to Salem if the writers intend to develop Theresa into a significant and fully rounded character. The relationship between Caroline and JT is great, though.
Edited by Ophelia, Nov 19 2013, 04:14 PM.
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It's commendable of the writers, producers and directors gave us so many Dannifer moments today (I lost count, but it was like being sucked into a black hole of nothingness each time). I think they had so many glancing run ins at the hospital because they are desperate to try to create some kind of an angsty momentum. It ain't working!
Edited by Rosebud, Nov 19 2013, 03:31 PM.
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JessicaLeigh
Nov 19 2013, 02:23 PM
Matt
Nov 19 2013, 02:21 PM
I clearly missed the scene where Sonny shot baby Arianna out of his ass into Gabi's arms while she merely assisted with the delivery. Sonny truly is acting like everyone accused Rafe of acting in regards to Johnny & Sydney and EJ.


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This entire post - and the GIF - has me laughing my ass off! I'm at work, so I'm glad I'm on my lunch break!! Hilarious!
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SadieEsperanto
Nov 19 2013, 02:35 PM
Wait a second.

Gabi is living in Sonny's apartment, on Sonny's dime, where Sonny is keeping her secret about Melanie AND caring for her child, and he's the one reacting poorly here? Please.

Gabi should have told the boys about New York immediately. Conversation with Will got interrupted? Too bad. Text him and tell him you need to talk ASAP and it's serious. But no, she idiotically goes to Sonny's own father for advice and then allows Nick to manipulate/guilt trip her into doing something. AGAIN. She never learns!
Sonny and Will have really been annoying me lately, and tomorrow's show no doubt promises to be a trying time for my eyeballs as they roll furiously in their sockets, but...you have a point here.
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Nov 19 2013, 02:08 PM
Ophelia
Nov 19 2013, 02:00 PM
Theresa is a grown adult. They need to lay it out for her -- rehab or jail. Not asking Jennifer's permission to stay in Salem. What the holy hell was that?
It's really weird that shim are running Theresa's life to that extent. Nobody should be making their nearly 30 year old daughter apologize to other people.
Thank you! They treat her like she's thirteen. That "intervention" was a joke.
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I'm getting really tired of Sonny thinking he has some sort of special claim to Arianna or special right to tell Gabi what to do just because he's buttfucking Will.
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Matt
Nov 19 2013, 02:21 PM
I clearly missed the scene where Sonny shot baby Arianna out of his ass into Gabi's arms while she merely assisted with the delivery. Sonny truly is acting like everyone accused Rafe of acting in regards to Johnny & Sydney and EJ.
I for one Hate his/their attitude in regards to Arianna. It really irks me when the show - IMO - tries to act as if Gabi is some surrogate that WilSon hired, who has now changed her mind. She is that child's mother; she's a good mother according to the show, and she loves her child just as equally as Will. And no matter how many cutesy scenes they have of WilSon and/or Sonny with Arianna, the fact remains that Gabi (and Will) is that child's parent. I don't know, it just galls me when more is made of Sonny's relationship with the baby than Gabi's. It reminds me - in SOMEWAYS - of how the show used to marginalize EJ's relationship with Johnny in order to highlight the bond between Rafe/Johnny and Rafe/Sami/EJ's kids as a family.
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Supergirlx2
Nov 19 2013, 02:09 PM
Matt
Nov 19 2013, 01:58 PM
ok. Sonny better step off before I beat his ass. He's started to annoy the fuck out of me
Sonny & Will both turn into complete asses whenever anything happens with Gabi that they don't like. First they bitched at her for being friends with Nick again & sleeping with him in "their" apartment. Now they're gonna bitch at her for not telling them that the modeling contract she's THINKING of signing is in NYC. If they took the time to LISTEN to her instead of jumping to conclusions, I'm sure Gabi would tell them everything she told Nick about how the agency was allowing her to take time off & fly to Salem & paying for Wilson to fly to NYC - all for ARIANNA's sake. Gabi really isn't being as selfish as Wilson are making her out to be. Also, I love how Gabi's apparently selfish for thinking about taking a job so she could support HER CHILD because the job isn't in Salem. Will would probably have a really good shot at finding a great contract writing job in NYC, if he wanted to move to NYC with Arianna.
Will & Sonny need to take those giant sticks out of their asses.
Not to mention how stupid they both are to think there are modeling jobs with big contracts in Salem, never considering it might be an out of town job.
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Ian H
Nov 19 2013, 02:36 PM
are you kidding me?? are u forgetting how Gabi was blackmailing Sonny about moving out with Ari. Will has the same parental rights as Gabi. Same!!!! if she wanted to go why not leave Ari with with Will. to me that's Selfish!!!!
Why should Gabi leave Ari with Will? Especially when infants tend to need their mothers more than their fathers during the first few years of their life.

Yeah, Gabi should have told Will about the offer (which she hasn't accepted yet) sooner, but that's no reason for Sonny and Will to try and act like Gabi's stealing her baby away from them.
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Matt
Nov 19 2013, 02:44 PM
I'm getting really tired of Sonny thinking he has some sort of special claim to Arianna or special right to tell Gabi what to do just because he's buttfucking Will.
OMG, Matt...your comments are more entertaining than the show!
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Matt
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You damn well know if Will got some big career move as a writer in NYC and they wanted to move there with the baby & Gabi was opposed, they'd certain try to accuse Gabi of being selfish and of trying to use the baby to hold Will back from taking advantage of an amazing opportunity for him
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Rosebud
Nov 19 2013, 02:47 PM
Supergirlx2
Nov 19 2013, 02:09 PM
Matt
Nov 19 2013, 01:58 PM
ok. Sonny better step off before I beat his ass. He's started to annoy the fuck out of me
Sonny & Will both turn into complete asses whenever anything happens with Gabi that they don't like. First they bitched at her for being friends with Nick again & sleeping with him in "their" apartment. Now they're gonna bitch at her for not telling them that the modeling contract she's THINKING of signing is in NYC. If they took the time to LISTEN to her instead of jumping to conclusions, I'm sure Gabi would tell them everything she told Nick about how the agency was allowing her to take time off & fly to Salem & paying for Wilson to fly to NYC - all for ARIANNA's sake. Gabi really isn't being as selfish as Wilson are making her out to be. Also, I love how Gabi's apparently selfish for thinking about taking a job so she could support HER CHILD because the job isn't in Salem. Will would probably have a really good shot at finding a great contract writing job in NYC, if he wanted to move to NYC with Arianna.
Will & Sonny need to take those giant sticks out of their asses.
Not to mention how stupid they both are to think there are modeling jobs with big contracts in Salem, never considering it might be an out of town job.
Also not to mention that this is just what happens when a child has two parents who are not together as a couple. Negotiations have to be made in terms of living situations, etc. This is not a Sami situation of the mother trying to cut the father out of the child's life. You know if Will or Sonny had great opportunities out of town, they'd expect Gabi to accommodate their needs with regard to custody.
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I don't even like Gabi that much, but Wilson are being such assholes about the whole situation without even attempting to discuss the matter with Gabi in a calm, collected, non-judgmental, productive way that it's making me wish Gabi would just tell both of them to shut the hell up and then move out of the apartment with Ari.
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Matt
Nov 19 2013, 02:44 PM
I'm getting really tired of Sonny thinking he has some sort of special claim to Arianna or special right to tell Gabi what to do just because he's buttfucking Will.
I really appreciate that he loves Ari like she's his own - but she's not. And therein lies the rub with some of his more abrasive behavior. I get that they're all living together and he's supportive of Will since they're partners, but some conversations should be had solely between Will and Gabi before anyone else chimes in. That goes for everyone poking their noses in - Nutty Nick, Sami, Kate, all of 'em. Will does NOT need Sonny to fight his battles for him. He needs him to be supportive, yes - but part of being supportive is knowing when to step the fuck back and let them handle their business. Gabi and Will go WAY back, way before Sonny's time. Despite everything that's gone down, there is love and respect between them and they share a solid bond. They're both attempting to parent their child to the best of their ability. So. Let. Them. Deal. With. It. Will should also have the sense to know when it's appropriate for Sonny to chime in and when it is not. I would say the same thing if the situation were reversed and Will were single and living with Ari, Gabi and Gabi's partner.
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Nov 19 2013, 02:48 PM
Ian H
Nov 19 2013, 02:36 PM
are you kidding me?? are u forgetting how Gabi was blackmailing Sonny about moving out with Ari. Will has the same parental rights as Gabi. Same!!!! if she wanted to go why not leave Ari with with Will. to me that's Selfish!!!!
Why should Gabi leave Ari with Will? Especially when infants tend to need their mothers more than their fathers during the first few years of their life.

Yeah, Gabi should have told Will about the offer (which she hasn't accepted yet) sooner, but that's no reason for Sonny and Will to try and act like Gabi's stealing her baby away from them.
And I really don't blame her for keeping the info to herself UNTIL she decides whether not to sign the contract. I mean once Will finds out, then of course the brigade who act as if Will is some delicate porcelain doll, e.g., Sonny who was just today bitching T out because he was teasing Will about Eric, and of course Sami.
Edited by badaddiction, Nov 19 2013, 03:02 PM.
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Nov 19 2013, 02:48 PM
Ian H
Nov 19 2013, 02:36 PM
are you kidding me?? are u forgetting how Gabi was blackmailing Sonny about moving out with Ari. Will has the same parental rights as Gabi. Same!!!! if she wanted to go why not leave Ari with with Will. to me that's Selfish!!!!
Why should Gabi leave Ari with Will? Especially when infants tend to need their mothers more than their fathers during the first few years of their life.

Yeah, Gabi should have told Will about the offer (which she hasn't accepted yet) sooner, but that's no reason for Sonny and Will to try and act like Gabi's stealing her baby away from them.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like her lack of honesty and poor judgement has ever resulted in Will having the baby stolen from him before.

Oh wait...
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Matt
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And one of the main reasons Gabi is even CONSIDERING the offer is because of all the included perks of paid travel back & forth to Salem & PAID travel for Will to & from NYC because of the baby! It's not like she's actively looking for a way to keep the baby away from Will. She's keeping Will's paternal interests in mind in regards to the big picture. IMO, she's being very mature & responsible about the entire situation. The only reason she hasn't said anything to Will about the possible move is because she wants to understand all of the pertinent information before she explains the offer in detail.
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SadieEsperanto
Nov 19 2013, 02:56 PM
Panda Panda
Nov 19 2013, 02:48 PM
Ian H
Nov 19 2013, 02:36 PM
are you kidding me?? are u forgetting how Gabi was blackmailing Sonny about moving out with Ari. Will has the same parental rights as Gabi. Same!!!! if she wanted to go why not leave Ari with with Will. to me that's Selfish!!!!
Why should Gabi leave Ari with Will? Especially when infants tend to need their mothers more than their fathers during the first few years of their life.

Yeah, Gabi should have told Will about the offer (which she hasn't accepted yet) sooner, but that's no reason for Sonny and Will to try and act like Gabi's stealing her baby away from them.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like her lack of honesty and poor judgement has ever resulted in Will having the baby stolen from him before.

Oh wait...
That was all Nick's doing, not Gabi's. And if I remember correctly both Sonny and Will had plenty of opportunities to tell Gabi the truth about Nick, but they both chickened out at the last second.
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Matt
Nov 19 2013, 02:52 PM
You damn well know if Will got some big career move as a writer in NYC and they wanted to move there with the baby & Gabi was opposed, they'd certain try to accuse Gabi of being selfish and of trying to use the baby to hold Will back from taking advantage of an amazing opportunity for him
Now you know this is a lie. No way Will would want to take Ari away from his mother. thats why they all live together.
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