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Tuesday, November 19th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 19 2013, 12:11 AM (12,808 Views)
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Whoever is playing Teresa's mother has a face that is scaring the bejezzus out of me. Like Zombie nightmares.
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Tad is hilarious. Days please sign Brendan to a contract. I could watch him for an entire episode and never get bored.

I love that Shane and Kim came back but wish they were given something more exciting to do. They really are believable as Theresa's parents. Great chemistry between all of them. Hoping they are brought back again. But weren't they brought back several years ago and not much story was given to them and they were sent off? I'm not very good at remembering these things.

I'll disagree with many here. Gabi should have talked to Will before accepting any type of job that was out of state knowing she was taking Ari with her. She may be Ari's mother but Ari also has a father that has just as much right to her. A mature mother would take that into consideration and at least talk about it with the father before accepting a job. So Sonny is right to call her out because what is best for Ari is what her parents agree is best for her...not just one parent deciding what's best. It's not as if Gabi couldn't try and find another modeling job in Salem that pays at least half way decent, especially since Ari is probably better off with 3 parents directly in her life every day to take care of her vs. only being with one parent that will be working quite a bit. Sonny is not acting high and mighty. He may not be Ari's blood father but he has been a father to Ari in every other sense of the word and is in a committed relationship with her blood father so he should at least be allowed an opinion and an opinion that should be taken into account.
Edited by michr544125, Nov 19 2013, 05:54 PM.
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michr544125
Nov 19 2013, 05:38 PM
Tad is hilarious. Days please sign Brendan to a contract. I could watch him for an entire episode and never get bored.

I love that Shane and Kim came back but wish they were given something more exciting to do. They really are believable as Theresa's parents. Great chemistry between all of them. Hoping they are brought back again. But weren't they brought back several years ago and not much story was given to them and they were sent off? I'm not very good at remembering these things.

I'll disagree with many here. Gabi should have talked to Will before accepting any type of job that was out of state knowing she was taking Ari with her. She may be Ari's mother but Ari also has a father that has just as much right to her. A mature mother would take that into consideration and at least talk about it with the father before accepting a job. So Sonny is right to call her out because what is best for Ari is what her parents agree is best for her...not just one parent deciding whats' best. It's not as if Gabi couldn't try and find another modeling job in Salem that pays at least half way decent, especially since Ari is probably better off with 3 parents directly in her life every day to take care of her vs. only being with one parent that will be working quite a bit. Sonny is not acting high and mighty. He may not be Ari's sperm donor but he has been a father to Ari in every other sense of the word and is in a committed relationship with her blood father so he should at least be allowed an opinion.
An opinion maybe, but he has no rights to Ari or calling out Gabi as he did. Will and Sonny both are encouraging Gabi to take the modeling job. The fact that it's in NY is beside the point. She was waiting to talk to Will before she signs the contract, a contract that allows lots of time off and includes trips home for visitation, provides child care for her daughter and are willing to accommodate her as a single mother. Ari needs her mother and arrangements could very well be made for Will to see her as much as he wants. Gabi is not running away with Ari, she's a young woman looking to make a life for herself and her daughter. Now if everybody can keep their noses out of this, I am sure Will and Gabi could come to an amicable agreement.
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Today's episode was a snooze compared to last week. Did TomSell forget that it's still sweeps?

I just can't with Kate anymore. Why is she so concerned about Rafe and Jordan? She and Rafe didn't have anything special. I need Kate to be a badass again who torments Sami and lights mansions on fire. This watered-down cartoon version of Kate Roberts does nothing for me!

It's still such a treat to see Shane and Kimberly again. I hate that tomorrow is their last episode already. They have such good chemistry with Jen Lilley too! I'd love to see the Donovan family front and center in Salem again!

Dannifer continues to be the biggest dud of all. I HATE the way Shawn Christian sucks all of the life out of Melissa Reeves. If the show insists on forgetting that Matt Ashford exists, I'd rather see Jennifer single than with Daniel. She is SO enjoyable in scenes with everyone that isn't him!

T is funny and charming sometimes, but I really have no interest in him and hope the show doesn't have big plans for him. He's the equivalent of Chad/Cameron to me.
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See, I am the opposite. I enjoy Shawn Christian/Daniel....and think Jennifer sucks the life out of HIM. Not the other way around. I have enjoyed him in other pairings, but I don't enjoy watching her at all...
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Lori
Nov 19 2013, 01:57 PM
Why would the agency call Gabi on the landline. :headbang:
I wondered that too. Gabi always uses her cell phone. That was just weird.
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kay
Nov 19 2013, 06:14 PM
Lori
Nov 19 2013, 01:57 PM
Why would the agency call Gabi on the landline. :headbang:
I wondered that too. Gabi always uses her cell phone. That was just weird.
And what did they say that caused Sonny's reply to be "no, this is her roommate"? Did they confuse his voice with Gabi's? :shrug:
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AFaithL
Nov 19 2013, 06:14 PM
See, I am the opposite. I enjoy Shawn Christian/Daniel....and think Jennifer sucks the life out of HIM. Not the other way around. I have enjoyed him in other pairings, but I don't enjoy watching her at all...
I used to not mind Daniel, but ever since Fetch reunited after Jack's death, TPTB have been shoving the couple & Dan in viewers' faces. In addition, apparently the entire town thinks that Dan is the god of all doctors & the most amazing & wonderful man that ever set foot in Salem, and everyone thinks that there has never been a better couple than Fetch. Maybe if they had allowed Fetch to develop slowly over time and not reunited them so soon after Jack's tragic death and then worked so hard to try to convince everyone of how great they were, people wouldn't be so negative towards them. As for Dan himself, he just keeps getting inserted into almost every story. If they made Daniel not such a central focus of the show & turned his character into more of a support and not a lead, I think people would not mind him on screen as much as they do now. (he also needs a hair cut and proper styling. He's supposed to be a doctor, not a high school drop out turned surfer.)
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SadieEsperanto
Nov 19 2013, 02:35 PM
Wait a second.

Gabi is living in Sonny's apartment, on Sonny's dime, where Sonny is keeping her secret about Melanie AND caring for her child, and he's the one reacting poorly here? Please.

Gabi should have told the boys about New York immediately. Conversation with Will got interrupted? Too bad. Text him and tell him you need to talk ASAP and it's serious. But no, she idiotically goes to Sonny's own father for advice and then allows Nick to manipulate/guilt trip her into doing something. AGAIN. She never learns!
Also, I thought Gabi was still in college. Can she just quit college? Wasting all that money spent on her education? WHat was she going to college for anyway? Why does she think she should just move herself and her daughter to NYC without having any friends/family support there and once she gets there she is going to be doing photo shoots, and taking acting classes etc and where is the baby going to be? In childcare with strangers watching over her. She would be better off in Salem with her family including her father, than in a strange city. I am sorry but I think Gabi is being really selfish. Also, instead of discussing this with Nick she should be insisting on a family meeting with the father of her child to discuss something that Will affect his daughter's life as well as his.
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Nov 19 2013, 03:42 PM
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Nov 19 2013, 02:53 PM
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Nov 19 2013, 02:47 PM
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Nov 19 2013, 02:09 PM

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Not to mention how stupid they both are to think there are modeling jobs with big contracts in Salem, never considering it might be an out of town job.
Also not to mention that this is just what happens when a child has two parents who are not together as a couple. Negotiations have to be made in terms of living situations, etc. This is not a Sami situation of the mother trying to cut the father out of the child's life. You know if Will or Sonny had great opportunities out of town, they'd expect Gabi to accommodate their needs with regard to custody.
And why is it unthinkable that Gabi could simply leave the baby in Salem with Will for a time while she's starting the new job? And then the baby could spend a month with Gabi, then a month with Will, or summers with Gabi, or whatever. Don't millions of children do that kind of thing all over this country? Did Will and Gabi never consider these kind of things happening considering they aren't a conventional family?

The whole story is such a NON-STORY.
For what it's worth, this is exactly what my cousin and his ex are doing. When kids are young, it's much easier to split custody like this.
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Coming in from the land of lurk to say how much I enjoy the Dannifer snarking that I read on this board. I've never understood the writers' insistence on this pairing and as you all say, shoving it down the viewers throats. It seems they have the right formula with Eric and Nicole so they obviously know what can work but yet Rafe and Jordan and Dannifer, they insist on gluing together with the most obvious tacts that makes it hard to stomach. I want to actually FEEL the story and the characters, not be told (by everyone it seems) that I should love them. At the same time these same writers destroy all the once sacrosant super couples? Beyond my understanding.

And I did try to understand. I looked around the net to see what Dannifer support there was. I found a dedicated website with around 200 members. Wow. Such support. Do a simple google search and the top hits all come up with posts crying out for the elimination of this couple. There was one poll I saw that has 400 people claiming to love the pairing - and over 600 rating between they couldn't care less to hate them

Again, my number one complaint about this show - it's complete disregard for its viewers. Makes it hard to watch. Back to lurking I go and reading about the SLs instead of watching them (OK, I did watch last week).
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Nov 19 2013, 01:40 PM
This whole "Gabi as potential global superstar model" story is rather silly to me, and of course Nick's role in it is shady as hell, but let's think this through rationally. Should she be discussing everything with Will right now? Of course. But if she approached everything in an honest, above-board way and Will actually tried to keep her from seizing such an amazing, life-changing opportunity, I'd think that was pretty awful. Parents live in different places all the time. Hammer out a fair custody agreement that everyone can live with and let Gabi do her thing. But then I guess if it went down like that this wouldn't be a soap.
I don't think Will has a right to dictate Gabi's career choices but he has every right as a father to want his daughter to stay in a supportive environment with him with extended family around for support instead of uprooting her to a New city with a single mother without any support who's Pursuing a challenging career that demands lots of hours and travel. He has every right to think about his daughter and what's best for her. He can have physical custody and Gabi can have access to her daughter but she doesn't get to automatically decide where the child should live without any input from the child's father. But I think Sami and Kate should stay out of it.
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~SIZZLING HOT~

Dannifer is the worst pairing in daytime television, and Daniel/Shawn Christian sucks the life out of the show. For Goodness sakes, TPTB have him connected
to almost everyone in one way or another, he's the physician, saviour, advisor, darling egg baby, GOD OF SALEM. And for why? :shrug: If he was popular it would be a reason for worshipping the man. But so far, it's nothing. :shame: JMO.
Edited by bellajewel, Nov 19 2013, 07:02 PM.
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Nov 19 2013, 06:56 PM
JessicaLeigh
Nov 19 2013, 01:40 PM
This whole "Gabi as potential global superstar model" story is rather silly to me, and of course Nick's role in it is shady as hell, but let's think this through rationally. Should she be discussing everything with Will right now? Of course. But if she approached everything in an honest, above-board way and Will actually tried to keep her from seizing such an amazing, life-changing opportunity, I'd think that was pretty awful. Parents live in different places all the time. Hammer out a fair custody agreement that everyone can live with and let Gabi do her thing. But then I guess if it went down like that this wouldn't be a soap.
I don't think Will has a right to dictate Gabi's career choices but he has every right as a father to want his daughter to stay in a supportive environment with him with extended family around for support instead of uprooting her to a New city with a single mother without any support who's Pursuing a challenging career that demands lots of hours and travel. He has every right to think about his daughter and what's best for her. He can have physical custody and Gabi can have access to her daughter but she doesn't get to automatically decide where the child should live without any input from the child's father. But I think Sami and Kate should stay out of it.
That is what I have been saying. And Kate and sami not getting is not possible.
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kay
Nov 19 2013, 06:40 PM
SadieEsperanto
Nov 19 2013, 02:35 PM
Wait a second.

Gabi is living in Sonny's apartment, on Sonny's dime, where Sonny is keeping her secret about Melanie AND caring for her child, and he's the one reacting poorly here? Please.

Gabi should have told the boys about New York immediately. Conversation with Will got interrupted? Too bad. Text him and tell him you need to talk ASAP and it's serious. But no, she idiotically goes to Sonny's own father for advice and then allows Nick to manipulate/guilt trip her into doing something. AGAIN. She never learns!
Also, I thought Gabi was still in college. Can she just quit college? Wasting all that money spent on her education? WHat was she going to college for anyway? Why does she think she should just move herself and her daughter to NYC without having any friends/family support there and once she gets there she is going to be doing photo shoots, and taking acting classes etc and where is the baby going to be? In childcare with strangers watching over her. She would be better off in Salem with her family including her father, than in a strange city. I am sorry but I think Gabi is being really selfish. Also, instead of discussing this with Nick she should be insisting on a family meeting with the father of her child to discuss something that Will affect his daughter's life as well as his.
If there is a custody hearing that is what the judge will look at. A mother who is busy with modeling and acting classes I understand that this is to make a living but ari will be left with strangers vs a environment where she will be surrounded by an entire family.
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Kaha
Nov 19 2013, 06:56 PM
JessicaLeigh
Nov 19 2013, 01:40 PM
This whole "Gabi as potential global superstar model" story is rather silly to me, and of course Nick's role in it is shady as hell, but let's think this through rationally. Should she be discussing everything with Will right now? Of course. But if she approached everything in an honest, above-board way and Will actually tried to keep her from seizing such an amazing, life-changing opportunity, I'd think that was pretty awful. Parents live in different places all the time. Hammer out a fair custody agreement that everyone can live with and let Gabi do her thing. But then I guess if it went down like that this wouldn't be a soap.
I don't think Will has a right to dictate Gabi's career choices but he has every right as a father to want his daughter to stay in a supportive environment with him with extended family around for support instead of uprooting her to a New city with a single mother without any support who's Pursuing a challenging career that demands lots of hours and travel. He has every right to think about his daughter and what's best for her. He can have physical custody and Gabi can have access to her daughter but she doesn't get to automatically decide where the child should live without any input from the child's father. But I think Sami and Kate should stay out of it.
As Ari's parents they should definitely talk things out amongst themselves but unfortunately you can already see that there's going to be interlopers in this whole ordeal. Sonny, Kate, Sami, Nick, Rafe, whoever need to take a step back and let the actual parents decide what's best for their daughter.

Let's be honest, if Gabi talked about the offer with Will one-on-one then they would come to an amicable agreement. It's only when you have other people around you adding fuel to your already burning fire before you have a chance to calm down, that's when things go haywire.
Edited by Panda Panda, Nov 19 2013, 07:11 PM.
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And I'm just putting this out there, but if it came down to choosing between living in a strange city or Salem; I would choose the strange city.

We all know Salem is a disaster and barely safe for anyone to live there, lol.
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AFaithL
Nov 19 2013, 06:14 PM
See, I am the opposite. I enjoy Shawn Christian/Daniel....and think Jennifer sucks the life out of HIM. Not the other way around. I have enjoyed him in other pairings, but I don't enjoy watching her at all...
And I think they suck the life out of EACH OTHER. I can take or leave both characters most of the time, but they are both at their absolute worst with each other. They're absolutely painful to watch and I have no idea what the writers' obsession with them is.
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SadieEsperanto
Nov 19 2013, 06:38 PM
kay
Nov 19 2013, 06:14 PM
Lori
Nov 19 2013, 01:57 PM
Why would the agency call Gabi on the landline. :headbang:
I wondered that too. Gabi always uses her cell phone. That was just weird.
And what did they say that caused Sonny's reply to be "no, this is her roommate"? Did they confuse his voice with Gabi's? :shrug:
Contrived plot point and lazy writing!
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Nov 19 2013, 07:15 PM
And I'm just putting this out there, but if it came down to choosing between living in a strange city or Salem; I would choose the strange city.

We all know Salem is a disaster and barely safe for anyone to live there, lol.
Yes! I have no idea why the Bradys, in particular, didn't leave years ago.

As much as I like Sonny, Gabi should have put some clear boundaries in place at the start. He has the right to an opinion, but it's worth 100% nothing.
Edited by six, Nov 19 2013, 07:24 PM.
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