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Spoilers for the week of December 2nd; *updated 11/24*
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Topic Started: Nov 20 2013, 12:05 AM (33,842 Views)
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Nov 25 2013, 02:44 PM
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So according to SOD, one of the following characters will be murdered: Kate, Sami, Sonny, Will, Gabi, Nick.
My money is on Nick.
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Nov 25 2013, 03:20 PM
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So according to SOD, one of the following characters will be murdered: Kate, Sami, Sonny, Will, Gabi, Nick.
My money is on Nick. Just saw a clip of Sami and Kate dumping Nick's body in the river.
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Nov 25 2013, 03:34 PM
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The other female leads were phased out in their 30s and late 20s. Marlena wasn't because she wasn't on the show until her 30s.
Well that is to soon IMO that is still young, not that you are old when you are in your 40īs either but it would make more sense to me if they got phased back then.
In Sami's case, it's really help if they gave her stories that weren't better suited for twenty year old, but alas... While I do think Sami acts to childish and could be written more mature I think the biggest problem is that viewers have very different opiniond on who they want her pair with. To some her character is ruined if pair with EJ but to others is she ruined if paired with Rafe.
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Nov 25 2013, 03:41 PM
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So don't you think Days should use quotation marks around "murdered" or "killed".Wasn't it last year when we were suppose to wonder who "killed" Stefano.
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Nov 25 2013, 03:42 PM
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Well that is to soon IMO that is still young, not that you are old when you are in your 40īs either but it would make more sense to me if they got phased back then.
In Sami's case, it's really help if they gave her stories that weren't better suited for twenty year old, but alas...
While I do think Sami acts to childish and could be written more mature I think the biggest problem is that viewers have very different opiniond on who they want her pair with. To some her character is ruined if pair with EJ but to others is she ruined if paired with Rafe. It really doesn't matter though. The show should do something for the benefit of the show every now and again, and it seems like it never does. I was once a fan and although I can care less what happens to her now, I once thought that her little break around 2001 was great because it gave me a chance to miss her. She was never off the show but she wasn't appearing in any storyline of her own and that was a great little break. She has been on so much that I would think it would BENEFIT the stories if she wasn't around for a period of 6 to 9 months...think about all they could do with Ejami, Lumi, Safe, Sami and Ari, Sami and Kate, Sami and anyone....it would truly be a way to explore different avenues, open up exciting story lines and do something, ANYTHING. I've always said the show would truly rock if they centered a murder mystery around a heavily featured character that people care about. Regardless of what I think of Sami now, I once cared and I might care again depending on story....but I can never say that people don't give a crap about what happens to her and having someone 'kill' her....or fake her death or something would amount to so much story that it could drive us for 6 to 9 months and at least we'd have a chance to miss her.
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time.
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Nov 25 2013, 04:41 PM
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I can't get excited about Sami/Nicole scenes anymore cause Sami always gets the last word.
So true, and this is one of the major reasons I got so tired of Kristen this last run: she had the most to say no matter what she'd done and always had the last word. :shame: In this upcoming scene with Nicole and Sami, I expect no less than the writers to have Nicole sputter while Samantha Gene "goes off on her." And if we're lucky and they follow tradition, Sami will call Nicole a whore or slut (sarcasm here). Seeing as how Sami is so "pure".
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Nov 25 2013, 04:51 PM
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time. If they wrote her as an individual better and better stories for a character her age, it wouldn't matter who she's paired with. The way she's written, it's pretty much only possible to enjoy her if you like her with whoever she's with.
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Nov 25 2013, 06:21 PM
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Well that is to soon IMO that is still young, not that you are old when you are in your 40īs either but it would make more sense to me if they got phased back then.
In Sami's case, it's really help if they gave her stories that weren't better suited for twenty year old, but alas...
While I do think Sami acts to childish and could be written more mature I think the biggest problem is that viewers have very different opiniond on who they want her pair with. To some her character is ruined if pair with EJ but to others is she ruined if paired with Rafe. And to some of us she is just woeful regardless of who has visiting rights to the glittery hoo ha.
Please please please let this be the one moment when Day's surprises me and let Nick rise up from his watery grave and avenge his near death by killing Sami.
What I wouldn't give to keep Blake Berris and lose Alison Sweeney.
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Nov 25 2013, 06:28 PM
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time. She might take acting classes in her 6 - 9 months off so it's entirely possible they could rid her of all those overplayed annoying tics and I could concentrate on the storyline she has rather than endlessly rolling my eyes at the sheer torture of watching her try to act at which point I may enjoy her again.
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Nov 25 2013, 06:30 PM
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time.
If they wrote her as an individual better and better stories for a character her age, it wouldn't matter who she's paired with. The way she's written, it's pretty much only possible to enjoy her if you like her with whoever she's with. I'm sorry I do not understand this, stories for her age? Is it not true that 40 is like 30 nowadays? Regardsless soap operas, movie, primetime, etc. I wonder what stories would fit her age? Personally I love when she is messy and creates drama.
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Nov 25 2013, 06:41 PM
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time.
If they wrote her as an individual better and better stories for a character her age, it wouldn't matter who she's paired with. The way she's written, it's pretty much only possible to enjoy her if you like her with whoever she's with.
I'm sorry I do not understand this, stories for her age? Is it not true that 40 is like 30 nowadays? Regardsless soap operas, movie, primetime, etc. I wonder what stories would fit her age? Personally I love when she is messy and creates drama. Stories that aren't the exact same stories she was in when she was 18. The petty fighting over children and waffling between men (which may be over now...we'll see) and accidentally killing people is for people a good decade younger than her. Health stories and older children issues and business stories that are actually onscreen are more for her age. How she's managed to never have to deal with a death to someone close to her in her age group is beyond me. And actually, that's not just a Sami issue. That's an issue with everyone in that age group. Arianna died, but she was a nothing character and wasn't romantically linked to anyone. I really think they missed the boat not killing off Austin last year, lol.
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time.
She might take acting classes in her 6 - 9 months off so it's entirely possible they could rid her of all those overplayed annoying tics and I could concentrate on the storyline she has rather than endlessly rolling my eyes at the sheer torture of watching her try to act at which point I may enjoy her again. I don't think any acting coach can re-wire AS to change the way she acts, carries herself or speaks. She simply has no grace, poise, class or sophistication. You can't program that into a 37 yr old.
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Nov 25 2013, 10:58 PM
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time.
She might take acting classes in her 6 - 9 months off so it's entirely possible they could rid her of all those overplayed annoying tics and I could concentrate on the storyline she has rather than endlessly rolling my eyes at the sheer torture of watching her try to act at which point I may enjoy her again.
I don't think any acting coach can re-wire AS to change the way she acts, carries herself or speaks. She simply has no grace, poise, class or sophistication. You can't program that into a 37 yr old. Surely there is some sort of waterboarding technique.
Where's Rex Harrison when you need him.
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time.
If they wrote her as an individual better and better stories for a character her age, it wouldn't matter who she's paired with. The way she's written, it's pretty much only possible to enjoy her if you like her with whoever she's with. Except for most Sami is only liked if she's paired with someone they like. I can't tell you how many posts I've read saying that Sami's only tolerable with Lucas/Rafe and I can't help but to roll my eyes. She's the same with all of them.
None of the writers IMO want to write female characters as individuals. I would absolutely love it if they did. The only ones that come close to it are Kayla and Hope. Kate too for a while before Stephano and Rafe, but these women have limited scenes and when they do, they're sort of short.
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Nov 25 2013, 11:21 PM
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Sami is tolerable with Lucas, BD is able to lift what little acting talent AS possesses, that doesn't mean I want Lumi back. My hate for Sami has reached astronomical proportions, I can't bear the thought of her circling Lucas. He deserves a far better woman and truthfully ANY woman other than Sami is a step up.
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time.
If they wrote her as an individual better and better stories for a character her age, it wouldn't matter who she's paired with. The way she's written, it's pretty much only possible to enjoy her if you like her with whoever she's with.
Except for most Sami is only liked if she's paired with someone they like. I can't tell you how many posts I've read saying that Sami's only tolerable with Lucas/Rafe and I can't help but to roll my eyes. She's the same with all of them. None of the writers IMO want to write female characters as individuals. I would absolutely love it if they did. The only ones that come close to it are Kayla and Hope. Kate too for a while before Stephano and Rafe, but these women have limited scenes and when they do, they're sort of short. Right. That was basically my point. And the same has been said of Sami with EJ. It's actually kind of hilarious to go back and look at the people who agreed/disagreed with me saying the same things two years ago. But I do think that if they wrote her better, that could change. As it's been for the last several years, she's only written to be rootable if you happen to like her current pairing. And you're right that it's a problem with most if not all the female characters. I think it's a bigger deal with her only because she's so central.
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Nov 26 2013, 02:10 AM
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While I can see how more people would care about Sami if she were to be murdered I think the problem would remain when she got back. You never gonna like her with EJ even if she were gone for 9 months just like I will most likley never like her with Rafe, and I'm not sure if I could like her with Lucas either maybe with some really good storytelling I just doubt the writers can write that good, but I do like Lucas when he is funny or snarky so maybe I could like Lumi if Lucas could be like that all the time.
If they wrote her as an individual better and better stories for a character her age, it wouldn't matter who she's paired with. The way she's written, it's pretty much only possible to enjoy her if you like her with whoever she's with.
I'm sorry I do not understand this, stories for her age? Is it not true that 40 is like 30 nowadays? Regardsless soap operas, movie, primetime, etc. I wonder what stories would fit her age? Personally I love when she is messy and creates drama.
Stories that aren't the exact same stories she was in when she was 18. The petty fighting over children and waffling between men (which may be over now...we'll see) and accidentally killing people is for people a good decade younger than her. Health stories and older children issues and business stories that are actually onscreen are more for her age. How she's managed to never have to deal with a death to someone close to her in her age group is beyond me. And actually, that's not just a Sami issue. That's an issue with everyone in that age group. Arianna died, but she was a nothing character and wasn't romantically linked to anyone. I really think they missed the boat not killing off Austin last year, lol.
Health stories sounds boring to me I think being involved in Nickīs death a lot more interesting. I do think they should wrote her more of a busniess woman though. As for having fights over her kids might not be interesting but itīs not unfittable for her age there are many real life woman in her age with little kids.
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Nov 26 2013, 03:08 AM
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I can't get excited about Sami/Nicole scenes anymore cause Sami always gets the last word.
So true, and this is one of the major reasons I got so tired of Kristen this last run: she had the most to say no matter what she'd done and always had the last word. :shame: In this upcoming scene with Nicole and Sami, I expect no less than the writers to have Nicole sputter while Samantha Gene "goes off on her."
And if we're lucky and they follow tradition, Sami will call Nicole a whore or slut (sarcasm here). Seeing as how Sami is so "pure". Let's just call a spade a spade shall we? AZ's "spectacular acting" aside, Nicole IS a whore and she IS a slut. But then again, no female in Salem is as pure as the driven snow anyway, so.....
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Friday Theresa asks Daniel to help her with JJ
I will accept this, but only if it's really "Theresa ask Daniel to help her with JJ after she discovers she's pregnant." Otherwise :frustration: Theresa would have to actually sleep with J.J. in order for that to happen, and based on what I saw in the scenes from the night that she overdosed, she never did. They were just getting started when Theresa passed out. J.J. tried to rouse her with assurances that he was "ready to go, even without G" (or something very close to that effect), and he still had his boxers on when he rose from the couch -- he didn't need to take a moment to put them back on because they had never been removed. (Yes, I obviously realize that one does not necessarily need to remove their clothes entirely to have sex, and I also realize that one does not have to "finish" having sex in order for a child to be conceived, but neither fact is the point here.)
That said, to address some of the other comments in this thread about the matter, I'm not convinced that we know for certain yet that Theresa hasn't known what happened that night all along. While the writers gave no indication that Theresa and J.J. actually slept together (IMO, at least), they made a clear point of showing Theresa faking that she was asleep and later grinning mischievously during her scenes in the hospital after the overdose. That had to have been done for a reason. She could simply be claiming that she doesn't know what happened because she doesn't want J.J. to go to prison for something that she talked him into doing in the first place, especially since he helped to save her life when he made the phone call to ask for Daniel's help that night.
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