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Friday, November 22nd Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 22 2013, 12:47 AM (14,420 Views)
NocturnalBlondie
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jb1183
Nov 22 2013, 02:13 PM
Angelsmile
Nov 22 2013, 02:01 PM
badaddiction
Nov 22 2013, 01:55 PM
Umm, Sonny can't give up his business, but he feels Gabi should give up her daughter. Yeah, now who's the ass?
Sonny has not asked Gabi to give up her daughter.
He was ready to take her to court and have her declared an unfit mother on completely baseless grounds, so...
Well, he has a reason to question her fitness as a mother... he knows she was a desperate psycho who orchestrated Melanie's kidnapping, which ultimately lead to Jack and Madison's deaths. I mean the fact that she lost control over a guy she had no chance with is enough to question one's capacity to mother a child. I'm not claiming Will is any more perfect, but still... I don't think "baseless grounds" is very accurate. There are grounds, they are just unknown to most of town.
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metitle
Nov 22 2013, 01:13 PM
Sami is guilt tripping Gabi.
She is at least saying she knew she wasn't there for Will when he was growing.
In fact, she told Gabi she used Will.
But at least Sami is making some good points. That baby will be spending more time with the babysitter/Nanny than with Gabi. Gabi just wants to be famous.
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metitle
Nov 22 2013, 01:23 PM
Did I miss something? Ari was part of Gabi's modelling contract?
Yes. The photo shoot the rep from Sparkle Agency talked about using the baby and Gabi in the spread.
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(no, you're not seeing things, it really does move. lol.)
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That is one beautiful man with a thing for earth tones.
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Nov 22 2013, 01:41 PM
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Nov 22 2013, 01:37 PM
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Nov 22 2013, 01:27 PM
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Nov 22 2013, 01:19 PM

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I'm sorry, WHO's the drama queen? Gabi is up there with the rest of them. If she makes a major life decision for her and her child purely out of SPITE, then she has the maturity of a tween. It won't be long before Ari is smarter than her.
Gabi's no innocent, by any means, but Will and his bunch always manage to handle every situation as poorly as possibly.
I think that Will and Sami have handled this very well up to now. I don't know what's going to happen going forward, but so far they've done nothing to Gabi. Will pleaded with her to stay in a very non-confrontational kind of way (and what parent wouldn't want their child to be near them) and Sami has been very rational even offering Gabi a contract in town.
I think so far Will has handled this very rationally. Much better than Sami usually does. He is trying to get Gabi to take her time and not do anything in a hurry. Now he is considering going to NY in case she does decide to do this. Sonny has his business to consider and cannot just leave town. Of course if Will does go to NY that Will destroy Nick's plans to have GABI and the baby all to himself. Of course,we all know what Will happen next week. Gabi decides not to go and Nick gets upset and turns on her and she defends herself with a rock and thinks she killed him. Sami and Kate to the rescue?
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Kaha
Nov 22 2013, 01:42 PM
jb1183
Nov 22 2013, 12:37 PM
At some point, is apparently unemployed Will going to consider that he could move to New York? I'm not saying he should or shouldn't, just that he hasn't seemed to even consider that as an option.

ETA: Oh, good, he finally realized that was an option. Sonny's the dope it apparently still hadn't occurred to.

LOL at Sonny trying to keep everyone from overreacting now that he has personally stirred this up into some giant drama.
Isn't Will in university? And why uproot the child and remove her from her extended support and put her in the care of babysitters so that Gabi can follow some dream she only discovered recently because of Nick's manipulation? Even if this too good to be true deal is legit, Gabi will be very busy with all the plans the modelling agency has for her, so her infant daughter will be left with babysitters most of the time. How is that a good outcome for the child?
Right. I cannot believe Gabi would do that, but then she is a selfish person IMO.
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Lori
Nov 22 2013, 01:47 PM
tomsawyer
Nov 22 2013, 01:46 PM
Really Sonny??? YOU can't move to NY??? How has this become about YOU???
It's not about Sonny, it's about Wilson.
But he is making it all about him (Sonny)
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Kinay
Nov 22 2013, 03:36 PM
nananana7
Nov 22 2013, 02:32 PM
Even though Ari isn't Sonny's legal child or biological child ...
I think that Ari is a child of Sonny's heart.
It's understandable that he'd be emotional.
Of course it is . It's understandable that all of them would miss seeing that beautiful child on a daily basis but I still think that Gabi shouldn't have to base her decision on what Sonny or anybody else feels except Will. If Will chooses to go to NY to be with his daughter it means that she means more to him than anything or anybody else and he refuses to play dirty by trying to take the baby from her mother. I say good on Will because we all know his crazy mother and grandmother will stop at nothing so they can get to ruin yet another child's life. I love that Rafe is the only one who fuly supports Gabi's decision even though he will miss both her and his little niece.
So Rafe, who didn't want Sami to go on a too-good-to-be-true job interview till he checked it out, doesn't see a problem with Gabi and her 6 month old baby moving to NY where she will have no support system at all. Yeah, that's in character. :rolleyes:

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badaddiction
Nov 22 2013, 02:11 PM
Angelsmile
Nov 22 2013, 02:01 PM
badaddiction
Nov 22 2013, 01:55 PM
Umm, Sonny can't give up his business, but he feels Gabi should give up her daughter. Yeah, now who's the ass?
Sonny has not asked Gabi to give up her daughter.
No, he's done worse, i.e., putting forth the idea of having her declared an unfit mother so that he can keep her daughter.
And Will shot down that idea right away. Will cares about Gabi and would not want to put her through that.
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Sounds like a decent episode, sans Dannifer. I'll have to catch it this weekend when I get the chance.
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NocturnalBlondie
Nov 22 2013, 08:14 PM
Lori
Nov 22 2013, 01:23 PM
If the goal is providing for Ari then Gabi should have taken Sami's offer, it was a good deal.
Clearly the goal is looking out for herself. It would've been one thing if she said she was moving to New York two years ago, but she's a mother now, and she can't be purely looking out for her own interests. It's extremely selfish and inconsiderate of her to take Arianna Grace away from her family when she clearly has alternative options.

I mean what kind of life is she expecting to provide for her daughter if she becomes some big-shot model? One full of money, with Arianna Grace growing up with nannies, babysitters and strangers? Gabi's basic, and a total tool. I hope they kill her off when CB leaves.

Admittedly, I don't watch the Sonny/Will/Gabi stuff (not interested), but have they addressed how Ari's life would be better with Sonny and Will? Don't both of them have full-time jobs? Wouldn't Ari be with nannies, babysitters, strangers and (in the great Brady tradition) possibly a great-great grandmother with Alzheimer's if she stays in Salem because both of her primary caregivers would be working? I guess I don't see the difference if she's living in Salem or if she's living in New York. Either way, her parents all have to work and some kind of day care will be the reality of Ari's life. It's not like Gabi would be shooting/doing runways 24/7. The hours may be abnormal, but they wouldn't be constant. She would probably have lots of time to spend with her little girl.

I just never find it realistic when moms willingly surrender custody of their children. I'd cut somebody if they tried to get between me and my kids. ;)

Edited by Sariah, Nov 22 2013, 10:07 PM.
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Keith
Nov 22 2013, 06:21 PM
Re: Jennifer's history with Kristen. It was 15 years ago and the woman was disturbed. After years of intensive therapy, its in character for Jennifer to say, you know what, maybe this woman is the person I used to know. They made a point of having Jennifer distrustful when she first saw Kristen, but eventually gave her benefit of the doubt. Time does change a lot of people. It just didn't change Kristen. Now Jennifer not having more doubts after the initial wedding bust is a little bit of a stretch even considering that, but again nothing had been done to her or her family.
So Jennifer can give a woman who gaslighted her mother a pass, a woman who took a laser beam to her mother's brain....but she is a unforgiving bitch to Daniel?

Okay.
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Gabi, schmabi......

FATHER HAWTNESS IN A T-SHIRT!!!!!
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JamaicanBeauty7
Nov 22 2013, 09:59 PM
Sounds like a decent episode, sans Dannifer. I'll have to catch it this weekend when I get the chance.
I'm sorry. I completely did not register a single word you "said". Your Vermontgate avi had me completely distracted. I foresee this inability to process your thoughts & opinions continuing until you change your avi.

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Sariah
Nov 22 2013, 10:03 PM
NocturnalBlondie
Nov 22 2013, 08:14 PM
Lori
Nov 22 2013, 01:23 PM
If the goal is providing for Ari then Gabi should have taken Sami's offer, it was a good deal.
Clearly the goal is looking out for herself. It would've been one thing if she said she was moving to New York two years ago, but she's a mother now, and she can't be purely looking out for her own interests. It's extremely selfish and inconsiderate of her to take Arianna Grace away from her family when she clearly has alternative options.

I mean what kind of life is she expecting to provide for her daughter if she becomes some big-shot model? One full of money, with Arianna Grace growing up with nannies, babysitters and strangers? Gabi's basic, and a total tool. I hope they kill her off when CB leaves.

Admittedly, I don't watch the Sonny/Will/Gabi stuff (not interested), but have they addressed how Ari's life would be better with Sonny and Will? Don't both of them have full-time jobs? Wouldn't Ari be with nannies, babysitters, strangers and (in the great Brady tradition) possibly a great-great grandmother with Alzheimer's if she stays in Salem because both of her primary caregivers would be working? I guess I don't see the difference if she's living in Salem or if she's living in New York. Either way, her parents all have to work and some kind of day care will be the reality of Ari's life. It's not like Gabi would be shooting/doing runways 24/7. The hours may be abnormal, but they wouldn't be constant. She would probably have lots of time to spend with her little girl.

I just never find it realistic when moms willingly surrender custody of their children. I'd cut somebody if they tried to get between me and my kids. ;)

Will does not have a job at this time. He used to work at the pub when Caroline went to CAlast year for Alzheimer's treatment, but we have not seen him there for awhile. He was helping at Club TBD a few times (right after the grand opening) but usually Sonny is working regular hours there. Also, now Tad is working there since Chad left in October.

Will was shown going to college this Spring and has mentioned having a class or assignment (like the opportunity at Berkley last week) so I believe he is still in college. Sonny on the other hand never mentions going to college so I assume he graduated already.

I believe Will mentioned today asking EJ or Kate for a job in NY if he decides to follow Gabi there. Of course we know that Will not happen but he still could ask them so that he can earn an income should he decide to go the joint custody route with Gabi. Just because Lucas and Sami were unable to co-parent without hostility does not mean that Will and Gabi would have the same results. I believe they could make that situation work out.
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Nov 22 2013, 08:52 PM
metitle
Nov 22 2013, 01:23 PM
Did I miss something? Ari was part of Gabi's modelling contract?
Yes. The photo shoot the rep from Sparkle Agency talked about using the baby and Gabi in the spread.
This kinds a makes me think Nick had something to do with the contract. The agency didn't even see pictures of the baby how can they make the baby part of the contract. Also, the other parent has to agree to any contract involving a child. They cannot use Ari in a photo shoot without both parent's writen agreement.
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A few things about today:

* It was hilarious that Jennifer told Dan to get over himself when her only other scenes today involved Jen making Eric's assault about her.

* Blue cake is gross. It's gross when it's intact and it's even worse when people are cutting and eating it.

* I am totally here for the Scheming Grandmas.
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I don't get it. Jennifer was nice to Daniel a few hours before and then did a 180. My guess is she got the 411 on what happened with the overdose since there is going to be a hearing
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