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Monday, November 25th Daily Discussion
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Why the hell didn't Gabi just call the cops and say that Nick was raping her. Now they are going to dispose of the body? It wasn't murder, it was self defense. This is so dumb.
Love Sonny & Will. That is what people in love do. They try to work it out. by the way, Anne would have been fired a million times over if she worked in a real hospital. wonder if Ciara and Hope have forgotten that Bo ever existed. I thought Bo and Hope had mental telepathy and could communicate telepathically. maybe she could ask him if he is on the 30 ft. Sailboat with / Sean and Belle.
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Nov 25 2013, 03:39 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 03:17 PM
Keith
Nov 25 2013, 02:58 PM
I think often people like Wilson as a concept regardless of the chemistry or lack of it.
I think they're just so cute. They're like the soap opera couple equivalent of a basket of puppies. Unfortunately, that's not enough to make them compelling.
I don't mad-ship WilSon but they are as cute as a basket of puppies, Sonny is adorable and they are sweet together. I don't see oodles of red hot chemistry between them. I don't mind that. I'll take a sweet uncomplicated couple now and then.
They've had complications to be sure :) but they aren't complicated as a couple. They don't have basic, bedrock differences that make every interaction potentially complicated. I'm going to be reduced to using old school examples: John & Marlena are not complicated (or weren't until 2012), they see life the same way and their difficulties are usual external. Steve & Kayla were complicated, they saw life very differently, AND they had complications.

I'm sure I apply this idiosyncratically but to me other complicated couples are/were:
EJ & Sami
Nicole & Eric
Philip & Chloe
Caroline & Victor
Bo & Hope (maybe not in the last decade)
Bo & Carly
Shane & Kayla
Jack & Jennifer

Uncomplicated:
Isabella & John
Shawn & Belle
Brady & Chloe
Jennifer & Frankie

Anyway, that's my application. ;)
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Nov 25 2013, 03:45 PM
Nick: "So, I guess I'll give you two choices. One is you take the job offer, and move to New York with me and Arianna and we can be a family together. Or option number two: You go to prison for what you did to Melanie."

Yikes! I did NOT see that one coming! Blake Berris is so good at playing a creep. And Camila Banus is doing some very good work here too, in my opinion. I wish Rachel Melvin was still on the show, though. There's no way in hell Chelsea would let Nick have control over her the way Melanie and Gabi do!
Never tell a psycho your secrets. Lesson #1 in Salem.
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Camila and Blake did great today. I didn't understand at first how it would work, and why Gabi would resort to clocking him with a rock. I kept thinking, she could just agree with him and walk out of there and tell him later she changed her mind. And them bam, he tried to blackmail her with the Melanie thing. I still don't like how everyone was going crazy even though she had not signed the contract yet - it didn't make sense, but I did like Nabi's interaction today. I did FF Wilson today, that was a first.
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Nov 25 2013, 04:07 PM
Why the hell didn't Gabi just call the cops and say that Nick was raping her. Now they are going to dispose of the body? It wasn't murder, it was self defense. This is so dumb.
Love Sonny & Will. That is what people in love do. They try to work it out. by the way, Anne would have been fired a million times over if she worked in a real hospital. wonder if Ciara and Hope have forgotten that Bo ever existed. I thought Bo and Hope had mental telepathy and could communicate telepathically. maybe she could ask him if he is on the 30 ft. Sailboat with / Sean and Belle.


Well...I've been thinking about this. It's one thing if a complete stranger attacks a person and rapes them. It's another if it's someone you know who you've had a past relationship with. Is that more in line with "date rape?" She used to be married to Nick. They recently had sex together several times. I could see Sami telling Gabi claiming self-defense from attempted rape would be difficult to prove considering the past relationship.
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Nov 25 2013, 04:32 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 04:07 PM
Why the hell didn't Gabi just call the cops and say that Nick was raping her. Now they are going to dispose of the body? It wasn't murder, it was self defense. This is so dumb.
Love Sonny & Will. That is what people in love do. They try to work it out. by the way, Anne would have been fired a million times over if she worked in a real hospital. wonder if Ciara and Hope have forgotten that Bo ever existed. I thought Bo and Hope had mental telepathy and could communicate telepathically. maybe she could ask him if he is on the 30 ft. Sailboat with / Sean and Belle.


Well...I've been thinking about this. It's one thing if a complete stranger attacks a person and rapes them. It's another if it's someone you know who you've had a past relationship with. Is that more in line with "date rape?" She used to be married to Nick. They recently had sex together several times. I could see Sami telling Gabi claiming self-defense from attempted rape would be difficult to prove considering the past relationship.
You know a wife can charge her husband with rape and so can a prostitute with one of her clients. If a woman saids 'no' and the man doesn't take it as her answer then it's rape. A woman regardless of her relationship with a man always has the right to say 'no'.
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Nov 25 2013, 02:36 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 01:42 PM
I hate to say it, but Will usually has more chemistry with Gabi than he does with Sonny
Yet when they were together everyone was complaining about how they don't have any chemistry. Will and Sonny have objectively much bigger fanbase and they're most popular couple on this show after Ejami so,...
If only Doug and Julie got more airtime I think that order would change.

NOT MUCH COMPETITION LEFT.

It's like Days is fourth in the ratings.
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Nov 25 2013, 05:11 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 04:32 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 04:07 PM
Why the hell didn't Gabi just call the cops and say that Nick was raping her. Now they are going to dispose of the body? It wasn't murder, it was self defense. This is so dumb.
Love Sonny & Will. That is what people in love do. They try to work it out. by the way, Anne would have been fired a million times over if she worked in a real hospital. wonder if Ciara and Hope have forgotten that Bo ever existed. I thought Bo and Hope had mental telepathy and could communicate telepathically. maybe she could ask him if he is on the 30 ft. Sailboat with / Sean and Belle.


Well...I've been thinking about this. It's one thing if a complete stranger attacks a person and rapes them. It's another if it's someone you know who you've had a past relationship with. Is that more in line with "date rape?" She used to be married to Nick. They recently had sex together several times. I could see Sami telling Gabi claiming self-defense from attempted rape would be difficult to prove considering the past relationship.
You know a wife can charge her husband with rape and so can a prostitute with one of her clients. If a woman saids 'no' and the man doesn't take it as her answer then it's rape. A woman regardless of her relationship with a man always has the right to say 'no'.
I know that. I'm just saying it would be harder to prove in a court of law. Maybe Sami and Kate tell Gabi that and that is why they convince her to dump the body. And let's remember, Sami is already dealing with how no one believes her brother Eric was raped.

ETA: Hasn't it been said that in these cases there is a strong "blame the victim" mentality in the justice system?
ETA 2: And didn't Sonny recently tell Sami about how Gabi and Nick had hooked up again recently. So Sami has this knowledge in her head as well.
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Nov 25 2013, 05:27 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 05:11 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 04:32 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 04:07 PM
Why the hell didn't Gabi just call the cops and say that Nick was raping her. Now they are going to dispose of the body? It wasn't murder, it was self defense. This is so dumb.
Love Sonny & Will. That is what people in love do. They try to work it out. by the way, Anne would have been fired a million times over if she worked in a real hospital. wonder if Ciara and Hope have forgotten that Bo ever existed. I thought Bo and Hope had mental telepathy and could communicate telepathically. maybe she could ask him if he is on the 30 ft. Sailboat with / Sean and Belle.


Well...I've been thinking about this. It's one thing if a complete stranger attacks a person and rapes them. It's another if it's someone you know who you've had a past relationship with. Is that more in line with "date rape?" She used to be married to Nick. They recently had sex together several times. I could see Sami telling Gabi claiming self-defense from attempted rape would be difficult to prove considering the past relationship.
You know a wife can charge her husband with rape and so can a prostitute with one of her clients. If a woman saids 'no' and the man doesn't take it as her answer then it's rape. A woman regardless of her relationship with a man always has the right to say 'no'.
I know that. I'm just saying it would be harder to prove in a court of law. Maybe Sami and Kate tell Gabi that and that is why they convince her to dump the body. And let's remember, Sami is already dealing with how no one believes her brother Eric was raped.

ETA: Hasn't it been said that in these cases there is a strong "blame the victim" mentality in the justice system?
And now I have a South Park style synopsis of all the characters who have been raped/almost raped/bargain sexed in musical format swirling around my head. Although it's being sung by Barney Stinson so that's odd.

Edited by concerned, Nov 25 2013, 05:38 PM.
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Nov 25 2013, 03:39 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 03:17 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 02:58 PM
I think often people like Wilson as a concept regardless of the chemistry or lack of it.
I think they're just so cute. They're like the soap opera couple equivalent of a basket of puppies. Unfortunately, that's not enough to make them compelling.
I don't mad-ship WilSon but they are as cute as a basket of puppies, Sonny is adorable and they are sweet together. I don't see oodles of red hot chemistry between them. I don't mind that. I'll take a sweet uncomplicated couple now and then.
I was content with them until I got a good look at bryson.

And I think they're about 35 years too young to be so laid back about everything.
Edited by six, Nov 25 2013, 05:59 PM.
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Chandler Massey has become such a disappointment, and I used to consider myself a huge fan. He has been phoning it in since the shooting stuff, and TBH nothing makes me lose respect for an actor more than when they stop caring. I consider it disrespectful to the show, but most of all disrespectful to the fans... they support you, they build you up, and you're going to turn around and not give a shit about your work? What an insult! To be frank: you stop caring, I stop caring. Congratulations on ending your DAYS run as one of the worst actors on-screen - you used to be really good, and now you're going to be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

He seemed grounded and humble for much of his time at DAYS, but I'm really starting to think the fame went to his head. Take a page from Jen Lilley, Massey. :shame:
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I really don't want to see him be rewarded by getting another Emmy either, he really does not deserve it this year. Unfortunately, it only takes one good scene to get one. I'd much rather see Casey Moss get a win, since he's been consistent and has been bringing it since his first day. Hopefully he never loses that fire!
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Nov 25 2013, 06:00 PM
Chandler Massey has become such a disappointment, and I used to consider myself a huge fan. He has been phoning it in since the shooting stuff, and TBH nothing makes me lose respect for an actor more than when they stop caring. I consider it disrespectful to the show, but most of all disrespectful to the fans... they support you, they build you up, and you're going to turn around and not give a shit about your work? What an insult! To be frank: you stop caring, I stop caring. Congratulations on ending your DAYS run as one of the worst actors on-screen - you used to be really good, and now you're going to be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

He seemed grounded and humble for much of his time at DAYS, but I'm really starting to think the fame went to his head. Take a page from Jen Lilley, Massey. :shame:
If fame was going to his head, he wouldn't have been so intent on returning to college full time to finish his Bachelor's. He wouldn't be talking about how he wants the full college experience. It sounds like he was ready to move on a while ago.
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Nov 25 2013, 06:04 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 06:00 PM
Chandler Massey has become such a disappointment, and I used to consider myself a huge fan. He has been phoning it in since the shooting stuff, and TBH nothing makes me lose respect for an actor more than when they stop caring. I consider it disrespectful to the show, but most of all disrespectful to the fans... they support you, they build you up, and you're going to turn around and not give a shit about your work? What an insult! To be frank: you stop caring, I stop caring. Congratulations on ending your DAYS run as one of the worst actors on-screen - you used to be really good, and now you're going to be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

He seemed grounded and humble for much of his time at DAYS, but I'm really starting to think the fame went to his head. Take a page from Jen Lilley, Massey. :shame:
If fame was going to his head, he wouldn't have been so intent on returning to college full time to finish his Bachelor's. He wouldn't be talking about how he wants the full college experience. It sounds like he was ready to move on a while ago.
Still, his recent performances suggest he saw this work as beneath him because he doesn't even seem like he's trying. I guess that's what I meant in saying that.
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Nov 25 2013, 05:11 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 04:32 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 04:07 PM
Why the hell didn't Gabi just call the cops and say that Nick was raping her. Now they are going to dispose of the body? It wasn't murder, it was self defense. This is so dumb.
Love Sonny & Will. That is what people in love do. They try to work it out. by the way, Anne would have been fired a million times over if she worked in a real hospital. wonder if Ciara and Hope have forgotten that Bo ever existed. I thought Bo and Hope had mental telepathy and could communicate telepathically. maybe she could ask him if he is on the 30 ft. Sailboat with / Sean and Belle.


Well...I've been thinking about this. It's one thing if a complete stranger attacks a person and rapes them. It's another if it's someone you know who you've had a past relationship with. Is that more in line with "date rape?" She used to be married to Nick. They recently had sex together several times. I could see Sami telling Gabi claiming self-defense from attempted rape would be difficult to prove considering the past relationship.
You know a wife can charge her husband with rape and so can a prostitute with one of her clients. If a woman saids 'no' and the man doesn't take it as her answer then it's rape. A woman regardless of her relationship with a man always has the right to say 'no'.
It would come down to Gabi's word vs Nick's whether it was
consensual or not. Now given Nick's past my guess is most
would believe Gabi but she isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Nov 25 2013, 06:17 PM
Pookie
Nov 25 2013, 06:04 PM
NocturnalBlondie
Nov 25 2013, 06:00 PM
Chandler Massey has become such a disappointment, and I used to consider myself a huge fan. He has been phoning it in since the shooting stuff, and TBH nothing makes me lose respect for an actor more than when they stop caring. I consider it disrespectful to the show, but most of all disrespectful to the fans... they support you, they build you up, and you're going to turn around and not give a shit about your work? What an insult! To be frank: you stop caring, I stop caring. Congratulations on ending your DAYS run as one of the worst actors on-screen - you used to be really good, and now you're going to be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

He seemed grounded and humble for much of his time at DAYS, but I'm really starting to think the fame went to his head. Take a page from Jen Lilley, Massey. :shame:
If fame was going to his head, he wouldn't have been so intent on returning to college full time to finish his Bachelor's. He wouldn't be talking about how he wants the full college experience. It sounds like he was ready to move on a while ago.
Still, his recent performances suggest he saw this work as beneath him because he doesn't even seem like he's trying. I guess that's what I meant in saying that.
Rather than the fame going to his head, I think that he's just done. Maybe even done with acting period. Because that's what I get from him.
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Nov 25 2013, 06:29 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 06:17 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 06:04 PM
NocturnalBlondie
Nov 25 2013, 06:00 PM
Chandler Massey has become such a disappointment, and I used to consider myself a huge fan. He has been phoning it in since the shooting stuff, and TBH nothing makes me lose respect for an actor more than when they stop caring. I consider it disrespectful to the show, but most of all disrespectful to the fans... they support you, they build you up, and you're going to turn around and not give a shit about your work? What an insult! To be frank: you stop caring, I stop caring. Congratulations on ending your DAYS run as one of the worst actors on-screen - you used to be really good, and now you're going to be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

He seemed grounded and humble for much of his time at DAYS, but I'm really starting to think the fame went to his head. Take a page from Jen Lilley, Massey. :shame:
If fame was going to his head, he wouldn't have been so intent on returning to college full time to finish his Bachelor's. He wouldn't be talking about how he wants the full college experience. It sounds like he was ready to move on a while ago.
Still, his recent performances suggest he saw this work as beneath him because he doesn't even seem like he's trying. I guess that's what I meant in saying that.
Rather than the fame going to his head, I think that he's just done. Maybe even done with acting period. Because that's what I get from him.
Maybe. Regardless, it's sad that he's leaving the show in this way.
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Ugh, Sonny bugs. They're dealing with Will's daughter potentially moving away and rather than talking about the problem and solutions, Sonny was all "I... I... I..." I get that he's part if the equation, but dude, shut up about yourself and talk more about what's best for the kid, would ya?

Nabi rocked!! CB and BB both did strong work. As opposed to Wilson who were just annoying in their disagreement, Nick's delusions and Gabi's righteous anger made for a great fight. I do feel sorry for Nick because he's obviously a nutcase by birthright, but he was downright scary at the end.

Kate and Sami's scene was all kinds of win. I love that Sami is becoming Kate and that they both seem to realize it, LOL. I'm looking forward to this storyline to see both causing the drama as opposed to sitting back as poor victims. That's when they're at their best. I also liked that they laid the groundwork for Sami and Gabi to be suspects.

The Horton Thanksgiving stuff was cute. Those little girls are adorable. Is there a way we can SORAS just Allie?!?! She clearly belongs in the age group with Ciara and Theo.
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Nov 25 2013, 06:29 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 06:17 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 06:04 PM
NocturnalBlondie
Nov 25 2013, 06:00 PM
Chandler Massey has become such a disappointment, and I used to consider myself a huge fan. He has been phoning it in since the shooting stuff, and TBH nothing makes me lose respect for an actor more than when they stop caring. I consider it disrespectful to the show, but most of all disrespectful to the fans... they support you, they build you up, and you're going to turn around and not give a shit about your work? What an insult! To be frank: you stop caring, I stop caring. Congratulations on ending your DAYS run as one of the worst actors on-screen - you used to be really good, and now you're going to be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

He seemed grounded and humble for much of his time at DAYS, but I'm really starting to think the fame went to his head. Take a page from Jen Lilley, Massey. :shame:
If fame was going to his head, he wouldn't have been so intent on returning to college full time to finish his Bachelor's. He wouldn't be talking about how he wants the full college experience. It sounds like he was ready to move on a while ago.
Still, his recent performances suggest he saw this work as beneath him because he doesn't even seem like he's trying. I guess that's what I meant in saying that.
Rather than the fame going to his head, I think that he's just done. Maybe even done with acting period. Because that's what I get from him.
Yeah, I don't think he thinks it's "beneath him." He's mentally checked out. He's ready to move on. Judging by his desire to study international business, it doesn't sound like he wants to do much more acting.
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Nov 25 2013, 06:31 PM
Ugh, Sonny bugs. They're dealing with Will's daughter potentially moving away and rather than talking about the problem and solutions, Sonny was all "I... I... I..." I get that he's part if the equation, but dude, shut up about yourself and talk more about what's best for the kid, would ya?

Nabi rocked!! CB and BB both did strong work. As opposed to Wilson who were just annoying in their disagreement, Nick's delusions and Gabi's righteous anger made for a great fight. I do feel sorry for Nick because he's obviously a nutcase by birthright, but he was downright scary at the end.

Kate and Sami's scene was all kinds of win. I love that Sami is becoming Kate and that they both seem to realize it, LOL. I'm looking forward to this storyline to see both causing the drama as opposed to sitting back as poor victims. That's when they're at their best. I also liked that they laid the groundwork for Sami and Gabi to be suspects.

The Horton Thanksgiving stuff was cute. Those little girls are adorable. Is there a way we can SORAS just Allie?!?! She clearly belongs in the age group with Ciara and Theo.
She is in that age group. She was conceived the night Ciara was born.
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