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Spoilers for the week of December 9th; *updated 12/2*
Topic Started: Nov 27 2013, 10:55 AM (24,770 Views)
Laufeyson
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Sami and EJ are definitely NOT getting supercouple material, far from it.
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marie1969
Dec 3 2013, 09:28 PM
JillianJ
Dec 3 2013, 11:39 AM
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I'm talking about the hear and now...I'm not jumping ahead of anything. I'm saying she doesn't know what to do...she's in a place that she can decide to move out of the Mansion (and she could have moved out instead of telling him to keep his distance), sending a CLEAR message to EJ ....but instead, she stays and decides to keep a secret of her own just because he kept a secret. How are her CURRENT actions dealing with their trust issues....they aren't.


Sami is sending a very CLEAR message to EJ and its having QUITE the impact on him, one that more than likely would NOT have happened if they were living apart. He is pretty close to his breaking point and that is what Sami wants, she wants him ready to deal with their issue head on and resolve it......so Sami is most certainly NOT the one who doesn't know what to do or how this should be handled.


LuvingLumi
Dec 3 2013, 12:06 PM
JillianJ
Dec 3 2013, 12:01 PM
There will always be fans who would argue either side :lol:

As for EJ painting Eric in whichever light, Sami doesn't care beyond the act of lying to her so don't see the relevance of that and per spoilers we know things come to a head next week so her actions pretty much worked. :P
and again...I don't agree...Sami does care about her brother...she's said it enough..she ran to his side to comfort him, just told everyone that would listen how she's feeling about the situation and how she would have stopped it if she knew....I don't think you can really say that she doesn't care about Eric in this and how he feels, what he's going through...and even if what you say is true...I highly doubt that she won't care in the end when she finds out that Ej could have helped clear his name by revealing the truth but instead kept quiet while Eric goes to great lengths to clear his name.

again...we'll agree to disagree.


I agree, Sami does care a great deal about Eric. But she is also madly in love with Ej. I don't see why she is expected to give up the man she loves, break up her family and unroot her children from their home just to show her loyalty for Eric. Ej has been there for her more than any member of her own family has...ever. He has been her rock for the past year. If the situation were reversed, I am pretty sure Eric would not give up on Nicole for Sami's sake.

Sami is pissed with Ej for lying to her and protecting Kristen. I get that. IMO, as upset as she may be, she is not moving out because she knows she is not going to break up with Ej over this. She loves him and she is committed to him and it makes no sense to move out with the children only to move right back in once they make up. That would not be fair to the kids who finally have a loving stable family. Besides, she knows they are going to work it out eventually like any solid couple.

As for Ej, lying to Sami was not his brightest move, but I understand where he is coming from. Kristen is his family. He loves his family as much as Sami loves hers. He has every right to protect a member of his family wrong or not. Sami would do the same for her own family. Ej does not give Brady or Eric a damn thing. Why should he? They both hate his guts and treat him like dirt. So I don't see why Ej should throw his sister under the bus to benefit folks who despise him. Maybe if Eric had given Ej the same benefit of the doubt that he gave Nicole, Ej would feel differently about him. But from day one, he refused to give Ej a chance even though that is what priests are supposed to do. Instead, he treated Ej with contempt. So Ej owes Eric absolutely nothing. His loyalty should be toward his Samantha and he has already proven that he would lay down his life for his Samantha and their children. That should be enough IMO.

Both Ej and Sami will have to come to some kind of understanding regarding their family and learn not let family drama interfere with their relationship. But it will take time. Meanwhile their commitment is being tested. By staying in the mansion and not giving up on Ej, Sami is proving that she is in it for better and for worst which shows growth IMO.

Great post.

Neither is giving up on their relationship, and even though their issues is currently at the forefront the love they have for each other is not in question and most importantly for me, it is what will get them through this. No more running.
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JillianJ
Nov 28 2013, 06:01 PM
This must be the fire scenes that Chrisell spoiled, cannot wait :popcorn: hope EJ tells the whole truth and then it will be onto the murder coverup

I donīt think itīs the scenes Chrishell tweeted about, it sounded like a big Ejami fight with fireworks which Iīm guessing will happend when the truth comes out that EJ knew about the drugs, this sounds more like EJ gives Sami a choice to either stay with him or leave. They might still create some fire though. :wub:
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BeeBee
Dec 9 2013, 06:44 AM
S loves EJ
Dec 9 2013, 03:54 AM
I think EJ is inlove with Sami and cares about her but since he is a Dimera and a bad man he isnīt that good at showing it all the time. I understand why he kept the secret in the first place he didnīt wanted to ruin his sisters happiness and he thought they all could be happy if he kept the secret, but the writing after that has been shitty. He could have kept the secret without saying the sex was consensual, and I would have wanted to see him being more conflicted about lying to Samantha instead of acting like an ass. I do love it when EJ is bad but I donīt Think it make sense in this case since they are writing for Ejami as a couple. I think he looked scared of loosing Sami in his conversation with Stefano but in the same he seemed to like lying to her. He needs to learn that a relationship canīt work if itīs based on lies.

I do love it when Ejami have sex but they should also have more romantic tender moments. They need a a more fancy restaurant as a Days set. I want to see romantic dinners and dancing for Ejami.
The writing for Sami/EJ is not normal supercouple material.With most supercouples you feel as if they would risk their lives for each other.That is not what I feel when I see/hear Sami and EJ.This is why I am looking forward to their convesation.
EJ and Sami are not your normal couple anyway, so I would be wary if it were.

I also did not see the so called callousness in EJ's behaviour, we finally got insight into his fears when it comes to his lie and we also saw that with EJ, its not just enough to get Sami back in his bed.......he wants it all, trophy wife that does not make and per the write ups we have gotten of their fight, that is going to come through.
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I donīt think itīs the scenes Chrishell tweeted about, it sounded like a big Ejami fight with fireworks which Iīm guessing will happend when the truth comes out that EJ knew about the drugs, this sounds more like EJ gives Sami a choice to either stay with him or leave. They might still create some fire though. :wub:


Based on the timing, its definitely the scenes that we are going to get on Wednesday.
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JillianJ
Dec 9 2013, 06:59 AM
BeeBee
Dec 9 2013, 06:44 AM
S loves EJ
Dec 9 2013, 03:54 AM
I think EJ is inlove with Sami and cares about her but since he is a Dimera and a bad man he isnīt that good at showing it all the time. I understand why he kept the secret in the first place he didnīt wanted to ruin his sisters happiness and he thought they all could be happy if he kept the secret, but the writing after that has been shitty. He could have kept the secret without saying the sex was consensual, and I would have wanted to see him being more conflicted about lying to Samantha instead of acting like an ass. I do love it when EJ is bad but I donīt Think it make sense in this case since they are writing for Ejami as a couple. I think he looked scared of loosing Sami in his conversation with Stefano but in the same he seemed to like lying to her. He needs to learn that a relationship canīt work if itīs based on lies.

I do love it when Ejami have sex but they should also have more romantic tender moments. They need a a more fancy restaurant as a Days set. I want to see romantic dinners and dancing for Ejami.
The writing for Sami/EJ is not normal supercouple material.With most supercouples you feel as if they would risk their lives for each other.That is not what I feel when I see/hear Sami and EJ.This is why I am looking forward to their convesation.
EJ and Sami are not your normal couple anyway, so I would be wary if it were.

I also did not see the so called callousness in EJ's behaviour, we finally got insight into his fears when it comes to his lie and we also saw that with EJ, its not just enough to get Sami back in his bed.......he wants it all, trophy wife that does not make and per the write ups we have gotten of their fight, that is going to come through.

No Ejami isnīt a normal supercouple and I do love their fights, but I donīt think some normal super couple writing in between fights could not hurt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8jLsa4wLzw
Edited by S loves EJ, Dec 10 2013, 03:07 AM.
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S loves EJ
Dec 9 2013, 10:20 AM
JillianJ
Dec 9 2013, 06:59 AM
BeeBee
Dec 9 2013, 06:44 AM
S loves EJ
Dec 9 2013, 03:54 AM
I think EJ is inlove with Sami and cares about her but since he is a Dimera and a bad man he isnīt that good at showing it all the time. I understand why he kept the secret in the first place he didnīt wanted to ruin his sisters happiness and he thought they all could be happy if he kept the secret, but the writing after that has been shitty. He could have kept the secret without saying the sex was consensual, and I would have wanted to see him being more conflicted about lying to Samantha instead of acting like an ass. I do love it when EJ is bad but I donīt Think it make sense in this case since they are writing for Ejami as a couple. I think he looked scared of loosing Sami in his conversation with Stefano but in the same he seemed to like lying to her. He needs to learn that a relationship canīt work if itīs based on lies.

I do love it when Ejami have sex but they should also have more romantic tender moments. They need a a more fancy restaurant as a Days set. I want to see romantic dinners and dancing for Ejami.
The writing for Sami/EJ is not normal supercouple material.With most supercouples you feel as if they would risk their lives for each other.That is not what I feel when I see/hear Sami and EJ.This is why I am looking forward to their convesation.
EJ and Sami are not your normal couple anyway, so I would be wary if it were.

I also did not see the so called callousness in EJ's behaviour, we finally got insight into his fears when it comes to his lie and we also saw that with EJ, its not just enough to get Sami back in his bed.......he wants it all, trophy wife that does not make and per the write ups we have gotten of their fight, that is going to come through.

No Ejami isnīt a normal supercouple and I do love their fights, but I donīt think some normal super couple writing in between fights could not hurt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW4NM0QENX4
Not only are Ejami not a normal super couple, they are not a super couple material at all. Super arrogant and self centered maybe, definitely super annoying, but theirs is a relationship too disturbed and unhealthy to be even rootable.
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Quite frankly, "not being supercouple material" has been a benefit for at least the last 15 years. It's what keeps people onscreen.
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Kinay
Dec 9 2013, 12:16 PM
Not only are Ejami not a normal super couple, they are not a super couple material at all. Super arrogant and self centered maybe, definitely super annoying, but theirs is a relationship too disturbed and unhealthy to be even rootable.
They aren't a supercouple, period. There is a formula to writing supercouples, and DAYS hasn't used it for eons.
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Dec 9 2013, 12:20 PM
Quite frankly, "not being supercouple material" has been a benefit for at least the last 15 years. It's what keeps people onscreen.
Sad, but absolutely true.
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S loves EJ
Dec 9 2013, 10:20 AM
JillianJ
Dec 9 2013, 06:59 AM
BeeBee
Dec 9 2013, 06:44 AM
S loves EJ
Dec 9 2013, 03:54 AM
I think EJ is inlove with Sami and cares about her but since he is a Dimera and a bad man he isnīt that good at showing it all the time. I understand why he kept the secret in the first place he didnīt wanted to ruin his sisters happiness and he thought they all could be happy if he kept the secret, but the writing after that has been shitty. He could have kept the secret without saying the sex was consensual, and I would have wanted to see him being more conflicted about lying to Samantha instead of acting like an ass. I do love it when EJ is bad but I donīt Think it make sense in this case since they are writing for Ejami as a couple. I think he looked scared of loosing Sami in his conversation with Stefano but in the same he seemed to like lying to her. He needs to learn that a relationship canīt work if itīs based on lies.

I do love it when Ejami have sex but they should also have more romantic tender moments. They need a a more fancy restaurant as a Days set. I want to see romantic dinners and dancing for Ejami.
The writing for Sami/EJ is not normal supercouple material.With most supercouples you feel as if they would risk their lives for each other.That is not what I feel when I see/hear Sami and EJ.This is why I am looking forward to their convesation.
EJ and Sami are not your normal couple anyway, so I would be wary if it were.

I also did not see the so called callousness in EJ's behaviour, we finally got insight into his fears when it comes to his lie and we also saw that with EJ, its not just enough to get Sami back in his bed.......he wants it all, trophy wife that does not make and per the write ups we have gotten of their fight, that is going to come through.

No Ejami isnīt a normal supercouple and I do love their fights, but I donīt think some normal super couple writing in between fights could not hurt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW4NM0QENX4
Oh come on show us the bit where she ends up in the river.
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S loves EJ
Dec 9 2013, 03:54 AM
I think EJ is inlove with Sami and cares about her but since he is a Dimera and a bad man he isnīt that good at showing it all the time. I understand why he kept the secret in the first place he didnīt wanted to ruin his sisters happiness and he thought they all could be happy if he kept the secret, but the writing after that has been shitty. He could have kept the secret without saying the sex was consensual, and I would have wanted to see him being more conflicted about lying to Samantha instead of acting like an ass. I do love it when EJ is bad but I donīt Think it make sense in this case since they are writing for Ejami as a couple. I think he looked scared of loosing Sami in his conversation with Stefano but in the same he seemed to like lying to her. He needs to learn that a relationship canīt work if itīs based on lies.

I do love it when Ejami have sex but they should also have more romantic tender moments. They need a a more fancy restaurant as a Days set. I want to see romantic dinners and dancing for Ejami.
It's not a new thing.



EJ just doesn't trust Sami yet. He knows she wrecks things. He knows he can't trust her.

He'd be a fool ( or Rafe) if he thought he could.
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I know Ejami has trust issues they discussed it in the spring while being in bed, but I would like to see them start working on it, and show some growth.

I edited my post above and change the clip to one that includes the river part. I didnīt watched the whole clip before so I didnīt know it didnīt include Sami falling into the river.
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I find any storyline focusing Ejami issues a big waste of time. Ejami feels like a merry-go-round because their arguments do not lead to any resolution that we know will stick. When couples argue at end of it we are supposed to believe a character has changed, has become a better developed character.

But EJ and Sa,I do not grow or develop in their coupling. So arguing trust issues are moot. How is EJ going to help Sami's trust issues?

Sami has always trust issues with everyone. It's one of her main flaws. Been there since she was a teen. It's one Lucas used to call her out on all the time. But Ej can't call her out on that because her trust issues with him are valid. She has very good reason not to trust the well being of herself and her family with him. So where is the growth here?

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There's no real tangible meaningful development with EJ and Sami, neither is prepared to learn from their mistakes, zero self awareness. It's more about showing the other up as if saying to one another ....
Sami: "I'm right!"
EJ: "No, I'm right!"
Sami: "No, I'm right MORE!"
EJ: "No, I'm right more times infinity, ha!"
Sami: "Hmpf.....uh......No, I'm right infinity times infinity, got you there!"

.....And on and on and on and on and on............
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Actually there was a development between Ejami on wednesday they learned that sex wonīt fix things. Definietly the best Ejami scenes in quite a while. :rockon:
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S loves EJ
Dec 12 2013, 04:25 AM
Actually there was a development between Ejami on wednesday they learned that sex wonīt fix things. Definietly the best Ejami scenes in quite a while. :rockon:
He also had the golden opportunity to tell her truth and nothing but the truth, but he chose instead to lie to her face so no development there.
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It would have been nice if he had told her the truth but 0ne development in a time
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