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TreasureCove
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Dec 6 2013, 01:28 AM
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This is the third time a woman has attacked another woman over the fact that she had a full term baby die inside of her. A mother losing a child shouldn't be used as an insult.
No one walks up to Hope and throws out:
"Hey bitch! Why don't you go plant some flowers over Speedbump Wormfood Brady instead of bothering me!"
EJ has. When did he do that? I hope that Hope pulled a Marlena and reached back to China before slapping him. :whack: :stars:
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Dec 6 2013, 01:32 AM
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- Dec 6 2013, 01:13 AM
Sami can suck my....actually, never mind. I'm good. ;).
lol sami looks like she could take a ball or two....ej has been cut off for just two days and look at him roaming aimlessy around salem like a crazy person, shouting at reporters, and interrogating poor harold - hes even resorted to making out with samis photo....sad sad sad!!
24 years, wow, unfortunately im one of those fair weathered fans - very fickle in my love for days :$
i like both nicole and sami, i do however adore sami because she causes so much havoc. im more about the stroylines and less about the acting but if it was the other way round...definately nicole would in my top 5 - ari does a good job. I just like AS because I love AS and JS together so when they are on i cant concentrate on anything but their chemistry.
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Dec 6 2013, 01:35 AM
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- Dec 6 2013, 12:03 AM
There are people who like Sami, there are people who hate Sami. There are people who love EJami, there are people who hate EJami. & then there are those who are indifferent to Sami or EJami. Don't let people having negative opinions about a specific topic stop you from posting a positive one. Who knows. It might make some look at what is being discussed in a different way Thanks for this - love this attitude. Ive been having fun lurking and listening to everyones opinions so its very cool that everyone is so open minded. :cheers:
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james0479
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Dec 6 2013, 01:38 AM
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- Dec 6 2013, 12:59 AM
This is the third time a woman has attacked another woman over the fact that she had a full term baby die inside of her. A mother losing a child shouldn't be used as an insult.
No one walks up to Hope and throws out:
"Hey bitch! Why don't you go plant some flowers over Speedbump Wormfood Brady instead of bothering me!"
i get what you are saying, it was a low blow but this is soapy land where shit like this happens - suspension of belief is required to fully enjoy the experience. i think if thats how we look at it then we should be outraged every time a character is shot, raped, killed, kidnapped etc i think the anger should be directed at the writers and not the characters. they need to stop writing stupid backward dialogue and make it more interesting, fresher. i do however think sami is becoming dimera light, i think shes being primped to become a somewhat darker character. the lack of emotion surrounding nicks death seemed a little bit out of step with her character.
The reaction Sami had during Nicks "death" is only a caricature of Samantha Gene Brady because the writers pull that out every so often.....ya know, who Samantha Gene Brady should be ALL the time for the past 20 years. That's the Sami that Sami would be after her teenage years but noooooo she's a good mother, a fierce protector, torn between lovers! Child please, I saw that bitch when she was younger. She wouldn't be none of that today! So they give us real old school Sami fans glimpses of who she should've been every so often just to piss me off. ;). My point? That was the REAL Sami at the Salem river.
I don't agree at all. I thought that was as far from the Sami of old as humanly possible. I'm meaning, this is the Sami that I imagined she would turn out to be eventually when watching her years ago. I've never bought a heroine Sami. The one who was at the lake is the one I'd root for, strangely. Lol
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Dec 6 2013, 01:39 AM
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This is the third time a woman has attacked another woman over the fact that she had a full term baby die inside of her. A mother losing a child shouldn't be used as an insult.
No one walks up to Hope and throws out:
"Hey bitch! Why don't you go plant some flowers over Speedbump Wormfood Brady instead of bothering me!"
EJ has.
When did he do that? I hope that Hope pulled a Marlena and reached back to China before slapping him. :whack: :stars: Actually, that was fairly recently. I'd say it was in the last year. It was on the park bench set that's supposedly next to the Town Square and he was being particularly nasty. He told her she needed to off and cry over another dead baby or some such (I forget the exact wording).
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Dec 6 2013, 01:42 AM
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- Dec 6 2013, 12:59 AM
This is the third time a woman has attacked another woman over the fact that she had a full term baby die inside of her. A mother losing a child shouldn't be used as an insult.
No one walks up to Hope and throws out:
"Hey bitch! Why don't you go plant some flowers over Speedbump Wormfood Brady instead of bothering me!"
EJ has.
When did he do that? I hope that Hope pulled a Marlena and reached back to China before slapping him. :whack: :stars:
Actually, that was fairly recently. I'd say it was in the last year. It was on the park bench set that's supposedly next to the Town Square and he was being particularly nasty. He told her she needed to off and cry over another dead baby or some such (I forget the exact wording). Ugh I love a snarky line but some things are obviously too much. Sadly, Hope gets karma for the many time she snarked Nicole for being involved in porn against her will from her father! Geez.
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lysie
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Dec 6 2013, 01:43 AM
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The reaction Sami had during Nicks "death" is only a caricature of Samantha Gene Brady because the writers pull that out every so often.....ya know, who Samantha Gene Brady should be ALL the time for the past 20 years. That's the Sami that Sami would be after her teenage years but noooooo she's a good mother, a fierce protector, torn between lovers! Child please, I saw that bitch when she was younger. She wouldn't be none of that today! So they give us real old school Sami fans glimpses of who she should've been every so often just to piss me off. ;). My point? That was the REAL Sami at the Salem river.
I don't agree at all. I thought that was as far from the Sami of old as humanly possible.
I'm meaning, this is the Sami that I imagined she would turn out to be eventually when watching her years ago. I've never bought a heroine Sami. The one who was at the lake is the one I'd root for, strangely. Lol Oh, definitely not a heroine. I think she's like Kate in a lot of ways, but IMO the one thing that would have separated her from Kate was the absolute coldness and disregard for human life whether she liked the person or not. And as I said the other day, the fact that she wasn't freaking out should be proof that it was OOC. I don't think she'd act heroically, but there's a lot of room between how she was and being a heroine. Though quite frankly, considering it was Nick, I have a hard time believing they're not intending to go the heroine route AGAIN like they did with Bernardi.
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Dec 6 2013, 01:44 AM
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This is the third time a woman has attacked another woman over the fact that she had a full term baby die inside of her. A mother losing a child shouldn't be used as an insult.
No one walks up to Hope and throws out:
"Hey bitch! Why don't you go plant some flowers over Speedbump Wormfood Brady instead of bothering me!"
EJ has.
When did he do that? I hope that Hope pulled a Marlena and reached back to China before slapping him. :whack: :stars:
Actually, that was fairly recently. I'd say it was in the last year. It was on the park bench set that's supposedly next to the Town Square and he was being particularly nasty. He told her she needed to off and cry over another dead baby or some such (I forget the exact wording). Oh, then he's done it twice. The time I was thinking about was in Bope's house and it was a pretty long time ago.
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BeeBee
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Dec 6 2013, 01:44 AM
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- Dec 6 2013, 01:25 AM
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- Dec 5 2013, 11:49 PM
I'm sorry. I need more Eric and Sami scenes in my life. I love when GV and AS have scenes together. Eric and Sami have no love for each other's significant others (and yes, I'm considering Nicole Eric's significant other. I know I"m getting WAY ahead of myself lol). But they are also there for each other. And Sami also acts so protective of Eric. It's cute. And so is Eric teasing Sami. I can't get enough of that. GV and AS have a great connection. I need Days to give me more bro-sis scenes. Pronto.
I cannot stand her saying "my twin brother" or "twin" in her conversations with him.He knows he is her twin and the rest of us get it.Stop saying it in every other sentence during her conversations with Eric. I just noticed I am now an "Elite" member.Thanks,I love a promotion.
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Dec 6 2013, 01:47 AM
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- Dec 6 2013, 12:59 AM
This is the third time a woman has attacked another woman over the fact that she had a full term baby die inside of her. A mother losing a child shouldn't be used as an insult.
No one walks up to Hope and throws out:
"Hey bitch! Why don't you go plant some flowers over Speedbump Wormfood Brady instead of bothering me!"
EJ has.
When did he do that? I hope that Hope pulled a Marlena and reached back to China before slapping him. :whack: :stars: She is a Brady by marriage.She should have shot him like the others.
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Dec 6 2013, 01:48 AM
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Child please, I saw that bitch when she was younger. She wouldn't be none of that today! So they give us real old school Sami fans glimpses of who she should've been every so often just to piss me off. ;). My point? That was the REAL Sami at the Salem river. YES YES YES i need this sami in my life. more writing like this please. I need her to be bitchy and obnoxious but i need her reasons to be justified. i cant fully commit to supporting a character with no redeeming qualities. :D
enough of the wallflowers - the characters need to be more darker and more interesting. we need characters that do ugly things but we the audience can understand their motives. for instance WHY IS ANNE. shes so unlikeable to me, shes a one tone character, i dont understand her bitterness. make her more interesting, give her a back story, anything, something....maybe shes in love with daniel.
jennifer is such as wasted character, i get so mad everytime shes on because theres so much potential there...urgh uber fraustrating
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Dec 6 2013, 01:56 AM
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Honestly, I'm not sure who is the "real" Sami post-2006. That's obviously when they decided to start transitioning her from villain-light schemer to a full-fledged heroine, and I think that's when her character got all messed up. Mostly because AS sucks at portraying a heroine. She just doesn't convey the vulnerability and sympathetic nature that I think the best soap heroines have (because they often have to be victims too). And that's okay, because I do think AS is good at playing the bitchy, snarky stuff. That's why Sami is more compelling when she's in an antagonistic, schemey mode. And if they would've stayed on the more villainess/antagonistic route, I do think Sami could've naturally become a character that is fairly Kate-like. She's always had more of a conscience than Kate, but I still think she should be scheming and meddling in relation to her kids' lives like Kate does. However, a lot of the past few years are inconsistent with her being like that now because they haven't developed her in a logical way. Anyway, her character, like a lot of characters, has suffered with all the writing shifts.
P.S. And notice that I didn't once mention any of her men because I think there are issues with Sami as an independent character, not who she is paired with.
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Dec 6 2013, 01:59 AM
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I have no intention of watching, but I just don't think Sami delivering a low blow is worth a back and forth. She's a despicable person. This isn't news. Nicole isn't above doing the same.
In the decades-long Sami vs. Nicole war and everything that both of them have said and done to each other, today's miscarriage comment doesn't even register on the top 10 nastiest list. They're both entirely capable of being bitches, especially to each other. Not a big surprise IMO. :shrug: I don't want to violate any rules or "beat a dead horse ".If it is not against the rules,could you post one or two things Nicole has said to Sami that are worse than Sami's dead baby remark to Nicole.I have only been watching the show on a daily basis since 2009.
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Dec 6 2013, 02:02 AM
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Honestly, I'm not sure who is the "real" Sami post-2006. That's obviously when they decided to start transitioning her from villain-light schemer to a full-fledged heroine, and I think that's when her character got all messed up. Mostly because AS sucks at portraying a heroine. She just doesn't convey the vulnerability and sympathetic nature that I think the best soap heroines have (because they often have to be victims too). And that's okay, because I do think AS is good at playing the bitchy, snarky stuff. That's why Sami is more compelling when she's in an antagonistic, schemey mode. And if they would've stayed on the more villainess/antagonistic route, I do think Sami could've naturally become a character that is fairly Kate-like. She's always had more of a conscience than Kate, but I still think she should be scheming and meddling in relation to her kids' lives like Kate does. However, a lot of the past few years are inconsistent with her being like that now because they haven't developed her in a logical way. Anyway, her character, like a lot of characters, has suffered with all the writing shifts.
P.S. And notice that I didn't once mention any of her men because I think there are issues with Sami as an independent character, not who she is paired with. This is EXACTLY what I meant to say but you said it better! I love this post and couldn't agree more.
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Dec 6 2013, 02:03 AM
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This is the third time a woman has attacked another woman over the fact that she had a full term baby die inside of her. A mother losing a child shouldn't be used as an insult.
No one walks up to Hope and throws out:
"Hey bitch! Why don't you go plant some flowers over Speedbump Wormfood Brady instead of bothering me!"
EJ has.
When did he do that? I hope that Hope pulled a Marlena and reached back to China before slapping him. :whack: :stars:
Actually, that was fairly recently. I'd say it was in the last year. It was on the park bench set that's supposedly next to the Town Square and he was being particularly nasty. He told her she needed to off and cry over another dead baby or some such (I forget the exact wording). hmmmm... still not recalling the scene. do you remember what else was going on in Salem (i.e., why EJ would've been so annoyed at Hope)?
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Dec 6 2013, 02:04 AM
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When did he do that? I hope that Hope pulled a Marlena and reached back to China before slapping him. :whack: :stars:
Actually, that was fairly recently. I'd say it was in the last year. It was on the park bench set that's supposedly next to the Town Square and he was being particularly nasty. He told her she needed to off and cry over another dead baby or some such (I forget the exact wording).
Oh, then he's done it twice. The time I was thinking about was in Bope's house and it was a pretty long time ago. EJ's been inside the Bope house while Bo & Hope were in it? The only time I can think of that EJ was in that house was when he & Philip were planting the bugs so that they could find out where Shelle & Claire were.
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Dec 6 2013, 02:09 AM
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I have no intention of watching, but I just don't think Sami delivering a low blow is worth a back and forth. She's a despicable person. This isn't news. Nicole isn't above doing the same.
In the decades-long Sami vs. Nicole war and everything that both of them have said and done to each other, today's miscarriage comment doesn't even register on the top 10 nastiest list. They're both entirely capable of being bitches, especially to each other. Not a big surprise IMO. :shrug:
I don't want to violate any rules or "beat a dead horse ".If it is not against the rules,could you post one or two things Nicole has said to Sami that are worse than Sami's dead baby remark to Nicole.I have only been watching the show on a daily basis since 2009. My comment was there are things they have said or DONE to each other. I'm sure you can guess which things I'm thinking of that Nicole has done to Sami that are worse than Sami making a mean comment about her miscarriages.
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Dec 6 2013, 02:11 AM
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- Dec 5 2013, 07:13 PM
dear god Brady, how much coke did you DO?? :o I never thought I would say this but I really am enjoyed coked up Brady's interactions with everyone,he is cracking me up.Knowing his history I am surpised that Nicole, Maggie,and EJ did not pick up on the fact that he was high.I thought Theresa might have realized what was up too.Brady has done a whole bag of cocaine and everyone who has reason to suspect,is totally oblivious.
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Dec 6 2013, 02:14 AM
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Honestly, I'm not sure who is the "real" Sami post-2006. That's obviously when they decided to start transitioning her from villain-light schemer to a full-fledged heroine, and I think that's when her character got all messed up. Mostly because AS sucks at portraying a heroine. She just doesn't convey the vulnerability and sympathetic nature that I think the best soap heroines have (because they often have to be victims too). And that's okay, because I do think AS is good at playing the bitchy, snarky stuff. That's why Sami is more compelling when she's in an antagonistic, schemey mode. And if they would've stayed on the more villainess/antagonistic route, I do think Sami could've naturally become a character that is fairly Kate-like. She's always had more of a conscience than Kate, but I still think she should be scheming and meddling in relation to her kids' lives like Kate does. However, a lot of the past few years are inconsistent with her being like that now because they haven't developed her in a logical way. Anyway, her character, like a lot of characters, has suffered with all the writing shifts.
P.S. And notice that I didn't once mention any of her men because I think there are issues with Sami as an independent character, not who she is paired with. ITA. I just think they took her too far the other way this time. I'm not going to like anything they do with her at this point, though. However, I do think the man in her life is an issue that can't really be separated from discussion of how she's written. I don't mean EJ specifically. There's no way they'd write her this way with any other man. Just like there's no way they'd have written her like they did with Rafe if she were with any other man. The way her character is written is completely dependent on whichever man is in her life, and because of that, there can't be a "real Sami" anymore. Sami as an individual doesn't exist. That's not unusual at all on this show when it comes to characters in "love stories", but it is something Sami managed to avoid until the time frame you mentioned.
And I really don't think they've given up the heroine yet. The only people she antagonizes are villains which means she's not actually a villain. Per the show, she's been in the right the last two times she's killed someone. That's a heroine.
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Dec 6 2013, 02:16 AM
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I have no intention of watching, but I just don't think Sami delivering a low blow is worth a back and forth. She's a despicable person. This isn't news. Nicole isn't above doing the same.
In the decades-long Sami vs. Nicole war and everything that both of them have said and done to each other, today's miscarriage comment doesn't even register on the top 10 nastiest list. They're both entirely capable of being bitches, especially to each other. Not a big surprise IMO. :shrug:
I don't want to violate any rules or "beat a dead horse ".If it is not against the rules,could you post one or two things Nicole has said to Sami that are worse than Sami's dead baby remark to Nicole.I have only been watching the show on a daily basis since 2009.
My comment was there are things they have said or DONE to each other. I'm sure you can guess which things I'm thinking of that Nicole has done to Sami that are worse than Sami making a mean comment about her miscarriages. Since I have been reading this board I have learned a lot of Days' history.I know Sami and Nicole have done horrible things to each other,I just thought Nicole had said something worse than what Sami said today.Thanks for clarifying.
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