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Topic Started: Jan 15 2014, 04:28 PM (38,404 Views)
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TreasureCove
Jan 18 2014, 09:16 PM
He wasn't written to be chasing her for 7 years though. In between obsessions with her, He has been written as torturing her, lying to her, enjoying her suffering, hating her, multiple rapes etc...
Which is why Sami needs to leave him. He's an awful clone of his father. Take the kids and run Sami. You deserve better. Let EJ destroy Abby's life but you use your brain and find a great guy worthy of you
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PrincessAkima
Jan 18 2014, 09:16 PM
BeeBee
Jan 18 2014, 08:56 PM
PrincessAkima
Jan 18 2014, 08:23 PM
Amanda_gayle
Jan 18 2014, 08:09 PM

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Completely agree with the rant. Ive heard how Sami is being ungrateful to EJ for everything he's done for her. Hmmm.No. Sami saved Rafe's life and went to jail for that. EJ decides to spring her out knowing his father is to blame for what happened to Sami. The second murder with Nick- she tried very hard to not get him involved and he won't let up until he found out everything. He willingly got himself involved in her messes and shouldn't expect showers of gratitude from Sami for that.

PLUS he's still hiding knowing about the drugs. Which he knows will justify her brother- so yes- Sami does deserve to not trust him.
The key sentence in your post is "If he loved Sami,he would help clear Eric.".I think he chased her for seven years only because he was obsessed with having her not because he loved her.He has her now but he is lying to her and cheating on her because he actually does not love her.EJ is choosing his adopted sister who he barely knows over Sami.He is choosing to have sex with Abby over being faithful to Sami.I also agree that EJ should not expect showers of gratitude from Sami for involving himself in her messes.EJ knows first hand how much gratitude Rafe and Lucas got from Sami for involving themselves in her messes,in fact he has mocked both Rafe and Lucas to their face about the amount of gratitude they received from Sami for helping her.All this is to say these are reasons I don't believe EJ has ever actually loved Sami,I think he just wanted her because it appeared he could not have her and he saw his obsession with Sami as love.If he loved her he would have likely told her about Kristin and attempted to help as much as Stefano would allow and he would not have had sex with Abby under any circumstances.
No Dispute there. Love would have made EJ do a lot of things. Buuuut, the min Sami finds out about the affair and decides to leave him, He'll want her back. Especially if by some chance she ends back up with one of her exes. EJ Dimera hates losing and he currently sees Sami as his prize. That will be fun to watch. lol
I hope Sami tells him to pound sand. I NEVER want Sami back with that scuzzy man ever again!!!
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I love discussing this with you all! So much better than twitter crazies! It's actual intellectual conversation! Funny it's about a soap!
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Some are curious about what Sami is gonna do when she finds out about the Ejabby affair? I think it would be sweet justice if Sami went after Ej when he leaves her for Abby, lol The writers are making Ej seem so much more in depth with all this comforting, calming , smoothing talks and kind jesters toward Abby. When he looses his temper faster than anything Ive ever seen at Sami at the drop of the hat.
Abby is breaking down Ej's walls and where Stefano has branded in his brain that hes a "DiMera" which only means hes a bad man, thats all Ej thinks of himself. When Abby starts to show him that he can be more than whatever Stefano has tried to make him he might finally realize hes not the evil/bad man hes sit out to be.

I say the writers let Ej experience the finer things in life with a woman that wants to be with him, let him be around for the birth of at least ONE of his child, let him find kindness and compassion that Sami has never showed and probably wont. Give him a little credit for one. Hey I like Ejs character, but this good one day and bad the next is getting a little confusing... :shrug:
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I think the Ejami thing is being written perfectly. They got together finally but with issues unresolved. She doesn't trust him (justifiably), he doesn't trust she loves him unconditionally (justifiably) and they haven't been together for months. They're really in a platonic relationship right now with Sami pushing him away, slapping him, etc. and EJ cheating. They'll break up and hate each other in grand dool style, EJ will be with Abby for a while and then eventually Ejami will happen again somewhere down the line but with the issues finally aired and worked though. They got together with their eyes shut this time round. It was never going to work and that's actually realistic for these two. It shouldn't have happened any other way if the writers truly want them to be together in the long run.
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Amanda_gayle
Jan 18 2014, 09:50 PM
I love discussing this with you all! So much better than twitter crazies! It's actual intellectual conversation! Funny it's about a soap!
We'll see if you feel the same another day.It could just be the merlot.:)
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BeeBee
Jan 18 2014, 10:15 PM
Amanda_gayle
Jan 18 2014, 09:50 PM
I love discussing this with you all! So much better than twitter crazies! It's actual intellectual conversation! Funny it's about a soap!
We'll see if you feel the same another day.It could just be the merlot.:)
We'll see! Lol! :-)
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The Room Stops
Jan 18 2014, 04:14 PM
Aliaron
Jan 18 2014, 01:08 AM
In affairs someone always lose. That didn't stop the cheering when Bo took Hope from her wedding or john finally landed Marlena. Audiences chose the side who they think are meant to be. And clearly Sami is not on that side to everyone.
That's something that's missing so badly on this show... a rooting couple. There's never been a real threat to John & Marlena, or to Steve and Kayla, Jack and Jennifer... Bo and Hope are different, but in the end, Bo and Hope as played by Peter and Kristian were the exact same. Audiences have a rooting couple, and they'll go along for a well-written ride.

That's what the show's missing with EJ/Sami and Daniel/Jennifer. They prop them up so much, and want them to be these lead couples, and they aren't the rooting couples. They actually have a shot with Eric and Nicole 2.0, but I feel like I'm almost waiting for them to screw it up for good.

Rooting couples don't have to be happy, but you have to give the audience something: Good, in character writing.
Will & Sonny are a rooting couple and thankfully they haven't messed them up. :cheer:
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freedom
Jan 18 2014, 09:31 PM
TreasureCove
Jan 18 2014, 09:16 PM
He wasn't written to be chasing her for 7 years though. In between obsessions with her, He has been written as torturing her, lying to her, enjoying her suffering, hating her, multiple rapes etc...
Which is why Sami needs to leave him. He's an awful clone of his father. Take the kids and run Sami. You deserve better. Let EJ destroy Abby's life but you use your brain and find a great guy worthy of you
That is the problem. If Sami had a brain she would not have cheated on Rafe who was nothing but good to her with someone who has most of the 7 years she has known him, has done awful things to her and if not to her, members of her family. She would have stayed away from him, and not allowed herself to be manipulated time and again back into his life. If she had a brain we would not have to be sitting through this torture that is EJ and Sami for the umpteenth time. Its gotten repetitive and boring. So, he is cheating on her, so what, that is just another thing added to all the stuff that EJ has done.

I feel nothing for Sami, because as someone said, she willing placed herself where she is now. She willingly left a good guy to go back with someone who allowed a stranger to have sex with her time and again. On top of that, she cheated on Rafe when he went out looking for her son, and what made it worse was who she cheated on him with. EJ and Stefano treated Rafe terribly. Rafe was her husband who she was suppose to love and Sami knows exactly what they had done to him to him, yet she found herself at the mansion having grief sex with EJ.

Until they give Sami a brain, and stop this merry go round with EJ and Sami, We will probably be having the same discussion about them that will probably go on until Days is off the air. It seems that nothing that EJ does to Sami, no matter how horrible, stops her from willingly believing his lies and going back to him, and we get the constant litany from her that he has changed. Well obviously he hasn't changed because I did not see him put up much of struggle before he was having sex with Abigail. I cant believe that she seriously believes EJ has changed. Especially knowing all the things he has done since she has been back with him, but I guess if it benefits her what does it matter.

I don't believe EJ loves Sami and I don't believe Sami loves EJ. The way they treat each other is just not my idea of two people loving each other. I question whether they know what love is, so that is another reason that I don't particular care that he is cheating on her. I don't think they should be together, and it would be great if once the affair Is known, it would be the end of EJ and Sami, but if these writers wanted to keep them together, they will keep her stupid. Once she finds out, we will definitely have the usual drama with her that we get when EJ has done something to hurt her, and she may walk out on him, but for how long before she is back with him again. EJ encouraging a stranger to have sex with her, I would never have thought that she would go back with him, much less having sex with him.

So, she cheated on Rafe with EJ, now EJ is cheating on her with Abigail, she may look at it as Karma and still stay with EJ, but first we will have to have the big blow up.
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I don't know why they broke up Rafe and Sami to put EJ back with Sami to begin with. Rafe was a good guy. Ppl say he's boring but he never treated her like dirt. EJ will destroy Abigail, and I hope Sami is far away when that happens and keeps her kids far away.
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A person can love someone and still cheat on that person. It's how they treat each other that's the issue. Also, I don't believe cheating alone should brake-up a relationship. If two people love each other and are committed to each other, they can overcome infidelity.
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Kaha
Jan 18 2014, 11:25 PM
A person can love someone and still cheat on that person. It's how they treat each other that's the issue. Also, I don't believe cheating alone should brake-up a relationship. If two people love each other and are committed to each other, they can overcome infidelity.
EJ's abusive treatment of Sami is way worse than his cheating. I think the only reason why some ppl give him a pass is because James Scott is sexy. If EJ looked like Stefano with a pot belly, ppl would not root for him to be with Sami

EJ cannot be redeemed to me after all the misery he put Sami through . The cheating is just the straw that broke the camel's back. I dont want him with Sami ever again. Abby is just an idiot herself but Sami is supposed to be smart. She gave EJ a chance and he blew it. Now he needs to lose Sami
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freedom
Jan 18 2014, 11:21 PM
I don't know why they broke up Rafe and Sami to put EJ back with Sami to begin with. Rafe was a good guy. Ppl say he's boring but he never treated her like dirt. EJ will destroy Abigail, and I hope Sami is far away when that happens and keeps her kids far away.


Ive noticed, and I posted this somewhere else, that the 3 men Sami is usually involved with is currently seeking other women. After the fall out with Ej shes gonna have to have someone, I mean how many times have we seen Sami without a man and alone for any reasonable amount of time? Lucas will, more than likely be VERY involved in Sheryl and Ej will be hooked up with Abby. But I seem to think that maybe Rafe might enter the scene again.

Nick,if that is who crashes the Christening, Sami could end up in jail for one thing or another, if he sets her up someway down the road. Rafe is trying to get back to physically being able to go back to work. I would think, to the police station, which gives me reason that Rafe could be the one to help her.

I mean lets face it. Shes gonna end up with someone and it might as well be Rafe. We dont know what hes gonna do when all of Jordans secrets come out.
JMO
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Are there no good guys on the show?

Patch left Kayla
Bo left Hope
John almost cheated on Marlena and left though he's back now
EJ is emotionally abusive an cheated on Sami
Brady is Brady who needs a woman at all times

Is Eric it?
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freedom
Jan 18 2014, 11:21 PM
I don't know why they broke up Rafe and Sami to put EJ back with Sami to begin with. Rafe was a good guy. Ppl say he's boring but he never treated her like dirt. EJ will destroy Abigail, and I hope Sami is far away when that happens and keeps her kids far away.
Sami's too much of a drama queen to be stuck with a boring man.
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freedom
Jan 18 2014, 11:37 PM
Kaha
Jan 18 2014, 11:25 PM
A person can love someone and still cheat on that person. It's how they treat each other that's the issue. Also, I don't believe cheating alone should brake-up a relationship. If two people love each other and are committed to each other, they can overcome infidelity.
EJ's abusive treatment of Sami is way worse than his cheating. I think the only reason why some ppl give him a pass is because James Scott is sexy. If EJ looked like Stefano with a pot belly, ppl would not root for him to be with Sami

EJ cannot be redeemed to me after all the misery he put Sami through . The cheating is just the straw that broke the camel's back. I dont want him with Sami ever again. Abby is just an idiot herself but Sami is supposed to be smart. She gave EJ a chance and he blew it. Now he needs to lose Sami


Thats just it. Ej CANT be redeemed through Sami but I think he can if hes with Abby. Ej , when hes in the grey, can be a kind person and even everyone in awhile be a compassionate person to others. (Ex. Ej talking to Abby about the Angels Wing, Jack gave her) I believe when Ej made love (his words, not mine) to Abby, he fell in love with her.

BUT you are right about how hes treated Sami over the years. If this were reality there isn't a woman alive that would go with a man that has done all hes done to her, regardless of how much he calms he loves her.

JMO :whistling:
Edited by Ljay, Jan 18 2014, 11:58 PM.
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freedom
Jan 18 2014, 11:51 PM
Are there no good guys on the show?

Patch left Kayla
Bo left Hope
John almost cheated on Marlena and left though he's back now
EJ is emotionally abusive an cheated on Sami
Brady is Brady who needs a woman at all times

Is Eric it?
Will
Sonny
Justin
T has been redeemed.
Lucas
JJ
Roman
Abe
Victor has been redeemed.
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freedom
Jan 18 2014, 11:51 PM
Are there no good guys on the show?

Patch left Kayla
Bo left Hope
John almost cheated on Marlena and left though he's back now
EJ is emotionally abusive an cheated on Sami
Brady is Brady who needs a woman at all times

Is Eric it?


Sure...

Rafe
Lucas
Daniel (even though hes hard to like sometimes, lol )

Hey, there not much but theyre all we got! LOL!! :laugh:
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freedom
Jan 18 2014, 11:51 PM
Are there no good guys on the show?

Patch left Kayla
Bo left Hope
John almost cheated on Marlena and left though he's back now
EJ is emotionally abusive an cheated on Sami
Brady is Brady who needs a woman at all times

Is Eric it?
Bo didn't leave Hope. Hope let Bo go off & investigate. Bo & Hope are still together.

Other males you didn't mention: Sonny, Will, Lucas, Rafe, Daniel, JJ, Justin, Tad, Victor, Abe. (i'm sure i'm missing some)
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Supergirlx2
Jan 19 2014, 12:13 AM
freedom
Jan 18 2014, 11:51 PM
Are there no good guys on the show?

Patch left Kayla
Bo left Hope
John almost cheated on Marlena and left though he's back now
EJ is emotionally abusive an cheated on Sami
Brady is Brady who needs a woman at all times

Is Eric it?
Bo didn't leave Hope. Hope let Bo go off & investigate. Bo & Hope are still together.

Other males you didn't mention: Sonny, Will, Lucas, Rafe, Daniel, JJ, Justin, Tad, Victor, Abe. (i'm sure i'm missing some)
I'm amused that I forgot Rafe and Daniel. :P But you're right; they should be on the list, too.
Let's not forget Roman!
Edited by iheartwilson, Jan 19 2014, 12:19 AM.
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