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Spoilers for week of January 27; *updated 1/20*
Topic Started: Jan 15 2014, 04:28 PM (38,409 Views)
michelle
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tomsawyer
Jan 16 2014, 10:44 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:10 AM
What I don't understand is why he can't end the relationship himself? Why doesn't he tell her it's over...that's he's fed up with her holding pattern, that he's tried but can't get over the fact that she'll never accept him for who he is and it's over. Obviously I know the answer to that, it's a soap and it can't happen because then the fall out isn't soapy.
He answered that in their last two fights and it's pretty simple - he still loves her, so he doesn't want them to be over yet.
Exactly, and if Sami wasn't withholding her magic vag from him, I doubt EJ would have sexed up the virginal non-virgin.
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Jan 16 2014, 10:28 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:11 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 09:43 AM
Ljay
Jan 16 2014, 02:40 AM

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Oh, please Jack and Jen had built a foundation....
not when she met him....
Jen and Jack built a relationship that meant something.
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and how do you know that Days won't build a relationship with Ejabby that means something? It's all to new yet to know what direction Days takes them in 6 months....
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tomsawyer
Jan 16 2014, 10:44 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:10 AM
What I don't understand is why he can't end the relationship himself? Why doesn't he tell her it's over...that's he's fed up with her holding pattern, that he's tried but can't get over the fact that she'll never accept him for who he is and it's over. Obviously I know the answer to that, it's a soap and it can't happen because then the fall out isn't soapy.
He answered that in their last two fights and it's pretty simple - he still loves her, so he doesn't want them to be over yet.
but obviously he doesn't love her enough to do something that would bring her right back to his life and his bed.
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LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:51 AM
salem_viewer
Jan 16 2014, 10:28 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:11 AM
salem_viewer
Jan 16 2014, 09:43 AM

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not when she met him....
Jen and Jack built a relationship that meant something.
.
and how do you know that Days won't build a relationship with Ejabby that means something? It's all to new yet to know what direction Days takes them in 6 months....
Of course they might, but they will always have started out with her being his little brother's girlfriend/him being engaged to someone else during their slightly more than a ONS hook up.
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LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:51 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:28 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:11 AM
salem_viewer
Jan 16 2014, 09:43 AM

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not when she met him....
Jen and Jack built a relationship that meant something.
.
and how do you know that Days won't build a relationship with Ejabby that means something? It's all to new yet to know what direction Days takes them in 6 months....
Right, but they haven't taken a J&J direction with them at this point. And starting them off with sex/cheating doesn't exactly indicate they will.
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LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:52 AM
tomsawyer
Jan 16 2014, 10:44 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:10 AM
What I don't understand is why he can't end the relationship himself? Why doesn't he tell her it's over...that's he's fed up with her holding pattern, that he's tried but can't get over the fact that she'll never accept him for who he is and it's over. Obviously I know the answer to that, it's a soap and it can't happen because then the fall out isn't soapy.
He answered that in their last two fights and it's pretty simple - he still loves her, so he doesn't want them to be over yet.
but obviously he doesn't love her enough to do something that would bring her right back to his life and his bed.
Which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.
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michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:54 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:52 AM
tomsawyer
Jan 16 2014, 10:44 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:10 AM
What I don't understand is why he can't end the relationship himself? Why doesn't he tell her it's over...that's he's fed up with her holding pattern, that he's tried but can't get over the fact that she'll never accept him for who he is and it's over. Obviously I know the answer to that, it's a soap and it can't happen because then the fall out isn't soapy.
He answered that in their last two fights and it's pretty simple - he still loves her, so he doesn't want them to be over yet.
but obviously he doesn't love her enough to do something that would bring her right back to his life and his bed.
Which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.
I think it's just proving that their relationship is really THAT dysfunctional....Lucas said it best a while ago, "Sometimes love isn't enough"
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Jan 16 2014, 10:55 AM
michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:54 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:52 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:44 AM

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but obviously he doesn't love her enough to do something that would bring her right back to his life and his bed.
Which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.
I think it's just proving that their relationship is really THAT dysfunctional....Lucas said it best a while ago, "Sometimes love isn't enough"
Even though I love them, I agree with you. They are dysfunctional. But right now, I put ALL the blame on him. And I don't get the writers right now at all. It makes not one lick of sense that he hasn't told her about the drugging. It doesn't make him more guilty, she already knows anyway, it's just a power play I guess? The more she asks the less he wants to answer? I don't know.

It's completely and utterly stupid if you ask me.

The writers get some stuff right, like Ericole and the slow build, but then they have the Salem 3 "kill" Nick instead of just calling the police. I get its a soap, but that doesn't mean it has to be ridiculous.

Does it?
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freedom


Omg why are they ruining EJ?
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LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:55 AM
michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:54 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:52 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:44 AM

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but obviously he doesn't love her enough to do something that would bring her right back to his life and his bed.
Which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.
I think it's just proving that their relationship is really THAT dysfunctional....Lucas said it best a while ago, "Sometimes love isn't enough"
And I would argue Ejami was nothing about love. But even if it was, there is no way I'm going to root for a couple that has done such God awful things to each other. There has to be some line that a person should not do to another and to expect to have a relationship later. EJ's menacing and evil ways towards Sami were just as bad as Jack's ways were towards Kayla but I would have screamed if they tried to make them a real couple. It's not even that all EJ has done is rape to Sami (which alone is enough for me) but all the other shit.

And what twisted tales to tell their children who when they grow up may repeat the same God awful dysfunctional patterns. If anyone treated EJ's children the way he's treated Sami, he would have had them taken care of. It's not healthy and it's not a good dynamic to be a signature couple of any TV show.
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michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:53 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:51 AM
salem_viewer
Jan 16 2014, 10:28 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:11 AM

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Jen and Jack built a relationship that meant something.
.
and how do you know that Days won't build a relationship with Ejabby that means something? It's all to new yet to know what direction Days takes them in 6 months....
Of course they might, but they will always have started out with her being his little brother's girlfriend/him being engaged to someone else during their slightly more than a ONS hook up.
No really it started as famous race car driver meet someone that read newspaper that have articles on him when he reached to talk to to her while she definite into him this years before Chad even show up
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michelle
Jan 16 2014, 11:06 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:55 AM
michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:54 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:52 AM

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Which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.
I think it's just proving that their relationship is really THAT dysfunctional....Lucas said it best a while ago, "Sometimes love isn't enough"
Even though I love them, I agree with you. They are dysfunctional. But right now, I put ALL the blame on him. And I don't get the writers right now at all. It makes not one lick of sense that he hasn't told her about the drugging. It doesn't make him more guilty, she already knows anyway, it's just a power play I guess? The more she asks the less he wants to answer? I don't know.

It's completely and utterly stupid if you ask me.

The writers get some stuff right, like Ericole and the slow build, but then they have the Salem 3 "kill" Nick instead of just calling the police. I get its a soap, but that doesn't mean it has to be ridiculous.

Does it?
and the show is really not as ridiculous as it once was....devil possession anyone?

Yeah I agree with you...I put all the blame on Ej here.....he could have easily told her the truth and made her promise that she wouldn't say anything or else Stefano could really harm them....then have this happen with Ericole and Sami feels guilty knowing about everything and being able to stop Chyka from doing what he's doing now and endangering her brother's life...then in classic Sami mode she would have deflected the blame back to Ej....maybe at that point they could have had a huge blowup and ended things. I don't think the affair is that bad....affairs happen on soaps, they are classic to soaps as is dying and coming back to life or baby switches. I feel that the execution could have been better, but these writers don't do better....I think Ej is skeevy, but in contrast to everything we've seen Ej do since he came to town, I think this falls on the very low end of the skeevy thingy.
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Tripp
Jan 16 2014, 11:12 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:55 AM
michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:54 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:52 AM

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Which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.
I think it's just proving that their relationship is really THAT dysfunctional....Lucas said it best a while ago, "Sometimes love isn't enough"
And I would argue Ejami was nothing about love. But even if it was, there is no way I'm going to root for a couple that has done such God awful things to each other. There has to be some line that a person should not do to another and to expect to have a relationship later. EJ's menacing and evil ways towards Sami were just as bad as Jack's ways were towards Kayla but I would have screamed if they tried to make them a real couple. It's not even that all EJ has done is rape to Sami (which alone is enough for me) but all the other shit.

And what twisted tales to tell their children who when they grow up may repeat the same God awful dysfunctional patterns. If anyone treated EJ's children the way he's treated Sami, he would have had them taken care of. It's not healthy and it's not a good dynamic to be a signature couple of any TV show.
I completely agree with you. I never saw an ounce of love with Ejami even last year or anything...I saw the show telling us they were in love, but we've seen Sami in love and Sami behaves a certain way when she's all about a man. IDK, I just find it hard to believe that this show is 'ruining' Ej as some are claiming...Ej is not a nice guy, he cheats, he rapes, he tortures and blackmails....he uses sex to get what he wants and he's been doing it since 2006....to think that he is now ruined because he's doing it with Abby is something I will never understand.
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michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:48 AM
I watched Jack and Jen from the beginning and fell in love with them right from the start. I never thought of them as skeevy or inappropriate, etc. And I did love Jen and Frankie before them.

Yet, I just find Ejabby to be a skeevy mess. Mostly because EJ is engaged, with children to someone he loves.

Jack wasn't engaged to anyone else, no kids and he and Jen didn't have an affair, they worked together and took forever to find love together.

I guess this is why I don't see any comparison between the two couples. At all.

I know people love Ejabby and that's fine, but comparing them to one of the greatest DAYS loves stories of all time, is a little confusing to me. Ejabby just seems like sex.

The only parallel I see is that Jack and EJ both raped someone in the past. And even with that commonality, Jack was a WAY better person than EJ could ever be.
How much do you want to bet that Abby will defend EJ to her mom by bringing up her dad's past misdeeds.
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michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:53 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:51 AM
salem_viewer
Jan 16 2014, 10:28 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:11 AM

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Jen and Jack built a relationship that meant something.
.
and how do you know that Days won't build a relationship with Ejabby that means something? It's all to new yet to know what direction Days takes them in 6 months....
Of course they might, but they will always have started out with her being his little brother's girlfriend/him being engaged to someone else during their slightly more than a ONS hook up.
The writers would need to write a story that puts a nice, rosy foundation, under a train wreck beginning to make it romantic for me. So far the storyline is just Sex..no depth. IMO.
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Jan 16 2014, 11:45 AM
michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:53 AM
LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:51 AM
salem_viewer
Jan 16 2014, 10:28 AM

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and how do you know that Days won't build a relationship with Ejabby that means something? It's all to new yet to know what direction Days takes them in 6 months....
Of course they might, but they will always have started out with her being his little brother's girlfriend/him being engaged to someone else during their slightly more than a ONS hook up.
The writers would need to write a story that puts a nice, rosy foundation, under a train wreck beginning to make it romantic for me. So far the storyline is just Sex..no depth. IMO.
It does not seem relevant now at least since ej is not in relationship that have depth or Abby never was indepth realtionship
Edited by Partnersincrime, Jan 16 2014, 12:23 PM.
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Man, I was looking forward to Ericole. Not feeling Danny and Nicole. Not feeling Danny at all. The stern warning EJ gives to Abby probably has to do with her digging into Nick's disappearance which will lead to a make out session I'm sure. I can't wait. :yahoo:
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Sorry, double post!!!!
Edited by jammy fan, Jan 16 2014, 12:07 PM.
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Jan 16 2014, 11:38 AM
michelle
Jan 16 2014, 10:48 AM
I watched Jack and Jen from the beginning and fell in love with them right from the start. I never thought of them as skeevy or inappropriate, etc. And I did love Jen and Frankie before them.

Yet, I just find Ejabby to be a skeevy mess. Mostly because EJ is engaged, with children to someone he loves.

Jack wasn't engaged to anyone else, no kids and he and Jen didn't have an affair, they worked together and took forever to find love together.

I guess this is why I don't see any comparison between the two couples. At all.

I know people love Ejabby and that's fine, but comparing them to one of the greatest DAYS loves stories of all time, is a little confusing to me. Ejabby just seems like sex.

The only parallel I see is that Jack and EJ both raped someone in the past. And even with that commonality, Jack was a WAY better person than EJ could ever be.
How much do you want to bet that Abby will defend EJ to her mom by bringing up her dad's past misdeeds.


And we ALL know which deed Abby will bring up! Both pertaining to the Brady women they were involved with in the past...Just sayin..
Both had bad Fathers, etc you know the drill...

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freedom
Jan 16 2014, 11:11 AM
Omg why are they ruining EJ?
Ruining it what way? This guy raped someone so how worse can he get?
Edited by jammy fan, Jan 16 2014, 12:08 PM.
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