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Spoilers for week of January 27; *updated 1/20*
Topic Started: Jan 15 2014, 04:28 PM (38,408 Views)
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No1_ILoveLucyFan
Jan 16 2014, 08:01 AM
My question is did Bo and Hope ever re-marry after the golden-coin storyline? John was married to Hope and we know they got a divorce so he and Doc could re-marry off-screen... not enough :flipoff: in the world to describe that amount of bullshit. But did we ever hear that Bope re-married?

Also, I'm starting to wonder, now that John is no longer the lovebaby of Santeen, if that lovebaby is still alive & they're bringing him back at some point to take over the DiMera Empire from EJ who is too busy bangin Abby to notice.
Yes. I believe that Bo & Hope got remarried after Hope & John's divorce was finalized. John & Marlena, however, didn't.
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Jan 16 2014, 12:06 PM
freedom
Jan 16 2014, 11:11 AM
Omg why are they ruining EJ?
Ruining it what way? This guy raped someone so how worse can he get?
Some posters indicated he might have killed someone too but that was before I was a regular viewer .It is difficult to see how one can ruin lying thieving blackmailing murderous kidnapper/rapist by merely pairing him with Abby.Honestly,EJ has no where to go but up.
Edited by BeeBee, Jan 16 2014, 12:45 PM.
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Jan 16 2014, 12:44 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 12:06 PM
freedom
Jan 16 2014, 11:11 AM
Omg why are they ruining EJ?
Ruining it what way? This guy raped someone so how worse can he get?
Some posters indicated he might have killed someone too but that was before I was a regular viewer .It is difficult to see how one can ruin lying thieving blackmailing murderous kidnapper/rapist by merely pairing him with Abby.Honestly,EJ has no where to go but up.
I think it just depends on what you like/dislike. I don't mind EJ being a villain, so the murder, kidnapping, blackmailing don't both me. But when he's being skeevy with sex (Sami rape, R2/cheating on Nicole, Abby manipulation/cheating on Sami), he grosses me out.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

tomsawyer
Jan 16 2014, 12:48 PM
BeeBee
Jan 16 2014, 12:44 PM
jammy fan
Jan 16 2014, 12:06 PM
freedom
Jan 16 2014, 11:11 AM
Omg why are they ruining EJ?
Ruining it what way? This guy raped someone so how worse can he get?
Some posters indicated he might have killed someone too but that was before I was a regular viewer .It is difficult to see how one can ruin lying thieving blackmailing murderous kidnapper/rapist by merely pairing him with Abby.Honestly,EJ has no where to go but up.
I think it just depends on what you like/dislike. I don't mind EJ being a villain, so the murder, kidnapping, blackmailing don't both me. But when he's being skeevy with sex (Sami rape, R2/cheating on Nicole, Abby manipulation/cheating on Sami), he grosses me out.
ICAM. Bad boy EJ is actually my preference, but one of the major reasons I've been an EJami fan for so many years was that no matter how rotten EJ could be, he always seemed to be captivated by Sami in a way that I don't believe anyone else ever had or has been.

This recent turn of events dilutes that significantly - and takes away a quality that I really loved about the character of EJ. For me he's become a whole lot more ordinary and far less interesting as a result. Sweevil is sexy - skeevy, not so much. :-/
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Totally agree what you said. I thought they were finally going to write the EJ and Sami a "love story" - including all the obvious dynamics of her family rejecting them, Stefano not completely on board - maybe throwing a few curves their way, especially when they had EJ kissing his ring and giving him back DE. They totally blew that story. The next time you saw them interacting he acted like he knew about Kristen and Eric long before he actually did, which isn't what we saw on screen. In hindsight, it appears they decided to go with an EJ and Abby pairing of some kind and had to add scenes because they certainly didn't flow. EJ is being written completely OOC. This isn't how he would ask and I can't get on board with EJ cheating on Sami. I don't care about him cheating on Nicole she wasn't his true love, even though even that paring is preferable to EJ and Abby. I think the writing has been poor. You can clearly see when the direction changed and when the stories really didn't flow correctly.
Edited by Ornella, Jan 16 2014, 02:41 PM.
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I really fail to see how the character of Ej is ruined. This isn't the first time he's cheated in a committed relationship. :shrug:
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Jan 16 2014, 12:15 PM
No1_ILoveLucyFan
Jan 16 2014, 08:01 AM
My question is did Bo and Hope ever re-marry after the golden-coin storyline? John was married to Hope and we know they got a divorce so he and Doc could re-marry off-screen... not enough :flipoff: in the world to describe that amount of bullshit. But did we ever hear that Bope re-married?

Also, I'm starting to wonder, now that John is no longer the lovebaby of Santeen, if that lovebaby is still alive & they're bringing him back at some point to take over the DiMera Empire from EJ who is too busy bangin Abby to notice.
Yes. I believe that Bo & Hope got remarried after Hope & John's divorce was finalized. John & Marlena, however, didn't.
John & Marlena did re-marry - she mentioned it in a 'blink-and-you-miss-it' scene where she mentioned it in passing. Thanks for the response about Bope though!! :cheers:
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

tomsawyer
Jan 16 2014, 12:48 PM
BeeBee
Jan 16 2014, 12:44 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 12:06 PM
freedom
Jan 16 2014, 11:11 AM
Omg why are they ruining EJ?
Ruining it what way? This guy raped someone so how worse can he get?
Some posters indicated he might have killed someone too but that was before I was a regular viewer .It is difficult to see how one can ruin lying thieving blackmailing murderous kidnapper/rapist by merely pairing him with Abby.Honestly,EJ has no where to go but up.
I think it just depends on what you like/dislike. I don't mind EJ being a villain, so the murder, kidnapping, blackmailing don't both me. But when he's being skeevy with sex (Sami rape, R2/cheating on Nicole, Abby manipulation/cheating on Sami), he grosses me out.
But I don't see it as ruining the character, though, do you? Clearly he wasn't ruined for many after the awful things he did in 06/07 and later with the Rafe2 bit...obviously fans of the couple still were able to enjoy their ship months or years after those far more skeevy things took place. I get people are affected by this perception that Ej only had eyes for Sami and although I always thought it was more obsession than love, I get how people might not have thought the same as I did..but clearly if that is what you thought about the pairing, this turn ruins the perception of that, but doesn't ruin EJ, IMHO.
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LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 03:07 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 12:48 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 12:44 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 12:06 PM

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Some posters indicated he might have killed someone too but that was before I was a regular viewer .It is difficult to see how one can ruin lying thieving blackmailing murderous kidnapper/rapist by merely pairing him with Abby.Honestly,EJ has no where to go but up.
I think it just depends on what you like/dislike. I don't mind EJ being a villain, so the murder, kidnapping, blackmailing don't both me. But when he's being skeevy with sex (Sami rape, R2/cheating on Nicole, Abby manipulation/cheating on Sami), he grosses me out.
But I don't see it as ruining the character, though, do you? Clearly he wasn't ruined for many after the awful things he did in 06/07 and later with the Rafe2 bit...obviously fans of the couple still were able to enjoy their ship months or years after those far more skeevy things took place. I get people are affected by this perception that Ej only had eyes for Sami and although I always thought it was more obsession than love, I get how people might not have thought the same as I did..but clearly if that is what you thought about the pairing, this turn ruins the perception of that, but doesn't ruin EJ, IMHO.
No, I've never called it character ruining because EJ doesn't have a character to ruin. There's just been zero consistency in the writing for him for the last six years, so you can't even define his character anymore in my opinion. There's basically been 20 different incarnations of EJ. Some I enjoy a lot, some I enjoy somewhat, and some I find to be gross. There's only three times in his history where I have found him to be gross. November 2006-March 2007, January 2011-July 2011, and now. Not coincidentally, it's when he's doing skeevy, sexual stuff. Sorry, totally turns me off.

ETA: I'm sure once they start writing him less skeevy, I will be able to find some level of enjoyment in his character again just like I have before. I don't tend to hold actions against characters forever because in my opinion, it's just a writing mistake which can be corrected. But yeah, while he's being skeevy, he will continue to gross me out. Hopefully that will end soon.
Edited by tomsawyer, Jan 16 2014, 03:40 PM.
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LuvingLumi
Jan 16 2014, 10:51 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:28 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:11 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 09:43 AM

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not when she met him....
Jen and Jack built a relationship that meant something.
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and how do you know that Days won't build a relationship with Ejabby that means something? It's all to new yet to know what direction Days takes them in 6 months....
In six months, and they are still on the air together maybe their relationship will be written differently, but at this time, for me, this is cheating/sex, I do not see love or romance in this pairing.

I reserve the right to change my mind if the writers develope it later into something more.
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^ My face watching DAYS

I really don't know how I feel about KA and DC as a pairing....I always picture her with a more darker looking actor...not a vanilla type guy like DC.

I will wait till I see them on screen though.
Edited by Mitchapalooza, Jan 16 2014, 03:35 PM.
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crookedhalo


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Jan 16 2014, 02:44 PM
I really fail to see how the character of Ej is ruined. This isn't the first time he's cheated in a committed relationship. :shrug:
I like him now, missed seeing him on today's eppy, and I would have bet money I would never say that since the break up of EJole. Thank God, Nikki is better off!

But this tickles me...

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Wednesday
EJ tells Sami that things must change


I would think so, Sami's not banging you but your sure banging Abigal.

To me the character of EJ has become simply delicious and finally has stepped out of Sami & Stefano's shadow, tick tick tick, before the eclipse, but I will enjoy him meanwhile.
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tomsawyer
Jan 16 2014, 03:19 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 03:07 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 12:48 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 12:44 PM

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I think it just depends on what you like/dislike. I don't mind EJ being a villain, so the murder, kidnapping, blackmailing don't both me. But when he's being skeevy with sex (Sami rape, R2/cheating on Nicole, Abby manipulation/cheating on Sami), he grosses me out.
But I don't see it as ruining the character, though, do you? Clearly he wasn't ruined for many after the awful things he did in 06/07 and later with the Rafe2 bit...obviously fans of the couple still were able to enjoy their ship months or years after those far more skeevy things took place. I get people are affected by this perception that Ej only had eyes for Sami and although I always thought it was more obsession than love, I get how people might not have thought the same as I did..but clearly if that is what you thought about the pairing, this turn ruins the perception of that, but doesn't ruin EJ, IMHO.
No, I've never called it character ruining because EJ doesn't have a character to ruin. There's just been zero consistency in the writing for him for the last six years, so you can't even define his character anymore in my opinion. There's basically been 20 different incarnations of EJ. Some I enjoy a lot, some I enjoy somewhat, and some I find to be gross. There's only three times in his history where I have found him to be gross. November 2006-March 2007, January 2011-July 2011, and now. Not coincidentally, it's when he's doing skeevy, sexual stuff. Sorry, totally turns me off.

ETA: I'm sure once they start writing him less skeevy, I will be able to find some level of enjoyment in his character again just like I have before. I don't tend to hold actions against characters forever because in my opinion, it's just a writing mistake which can be corrected. But yeah, while he's being skeevy, he will continue to gross me out. Hopefully that will end soon.
The inconsistency of the writing for EJ is I think at the core of why I have never been a shipper of any of his romantic pairings. Besides actor chemistry one of the biggest reasons I root for couples is how both characters personalities mesh---the best couples are those whose strengths and weaknesses balance each other IMO. And after 7 years on Days I couldn't describe those character traits for EJ. I don't have a handle on his character which is a real impediment for me to support him being with a particular character romantically. Probably why I feel he works best as a villain stirring up shit.
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Jan 16 2014, 01:21 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 01:10 AM
Ok this has been bothering me, what the heck is Fetch!? LMBO!! :stars:
Fetch = Dannifer, the misery TPTB at DAYS thrust upon us thinking that if they shove it in our faces enough, we'll actually give a shit about this hack, chemistry-free pairing.

It gets its nickname from Mean Girls.


As for Abigail being a tough but naive chick and that being a rare combination, that may be so but it isn't that far off her genetic line. After all, old-school Jennifer Rose Horton was exactly the same way before she became the joyless shrew she is now.
Very clever! Thanks for the explanation.
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No1_ILoveLucyFan
Jan 16 2014, 03:04 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 12:15 PM
No1_ILoveLucyFan
Jan 16 2014, 08:01 AM
My question is did Bo and Hope ever re-marry after the golden-coin storyline? John was married to Hope and we know they got a divorce so he and Doc could re-marry off-screen... not enough :flipoff: in the world to describe that amount of bullshit. But did we ever hear that Bope re-married?

Also, I'm starting to wonder, now that John is no longer the lovebaby of Santeen, if that lovebaby is still alive & they're bringing him back at some point to take over the DiMera Empire from EJ who is too busy bangin Abby to notice.
Yes. I believe that Bo & Hope got remarried after Hope & John's divorce was finalized. John & Marlena, however, didn't.
John & Marlena did re-marry - she mentioned it in a 'blink-and-you-miss-it' scene where she mentioned it in passing. Thanks for the response about Bope though!! :cheers:
Wait... they got remarried off-screen? Just like the mourning of Jack must've been done off-screen.
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Jan 16 2014, 09:22 PM
No1_ILoveLucyFan
Jan 16 2014, 03:04 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 12:15 PM
No1_ILoveLucyFan
Jan 16 2014, 08:01 AM
My question is did Bo and Hope ever re-marry after the golden-coin storyline? John was married to Hope and we know they got a divorce so he and Doc could re-marry off-screen... not enough :flipoff: in the world to describe that amount of bullshit. But did we ever hear that Bope re-married?

Also, I'm starting to wonder, now that John is no longer the lovebaby of Santeen, if that lovebaby is still alive & they're bringing him back at some point to take over the DiMera Empire from EJ who is too busy bangin Abby to notice.
Yes. I believe that Bo & Hope got remarried after Hope & John's divorce was finalized. John & Marlena, however, didn't.
John & Marlena did re-marry - she mentioned it in a 'blink-and-you-miss-it' scene where she mentioned it in passing. Thanks for the response about Bope though!! :cheers:
Wait... they got remarried off-screen? Just like the mourning of Jack must've been done off-screen.
Oh my God! I was thinking that too! What's going to happen with Ryan Brady now? Is it possible that he may be ACTUALLY alive? I know that the Santeen story is pretty much shit but I can't seem to shake my mind off the fact that a LITTLE KID has died. I always feel a tug in my heart strings whenever I hear of a kid dying.
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Jan 16 2014, 11:24 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 11:12 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:54 AM

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I think it's just proving that their relationship is really THAT dysfunctional....Lucas said it best a while ago, "Sometimes love isn't enough"
And I would argue Ejami was nothing about love. But even if it was, there is no way I'm going to root for a couple that has done such God awful things to each other. There has to be some line that a person should not do to another and to expect to have a relationship later. EJ's menacing and evil ways towards Sami were just as bad as Jack's ways were towards Kayla but I would have screamed if they tried to make them a real couple. It's not even that all EJ has done is rape to Sami (which alone is enough for me) but all the other shit.

And what twisted tales to tell their children who when they grow up may repeat the same God awful dysfunctional patterns. If anyone treated EJ's children the way he's treated Sami, he would have had them taken care of. It's not healthy and it's not a good dynamic to be a signature couple of any TV show.
I completely agree with you. I never saw an ounce of love with Ejami even last year or anything...I saw the show telling us they were in love, but we've seen Sami in love and Sami behaves a certain way when she's all about a man. IDK, I just find it hard to believe that this show is 'ruining' Ej as some are claiming...Ej is not a nice guy, he cheats, he rapes, he tortures and blackmails....he uses sex to get what he wants and he's been doing it since 2006....to think that he is now ruined because he's doing it with Abby is something I will never understand.
I've never bought EJami "in love". I believe Lumi and I believe Safe - they seem more equally matched in many respects and it was believable for me (although to a lesser degree Rafe). EJami is just abusive to each other and I've always wondered if it was about the power and mystique of it all for Sami and being in control of someone for EJ.
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Jan 16 2014, 11:51 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:53 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:51 AM

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Of course they might, but they will always have started out with her being his little brother's girlfriend/him being engaged to someone else during their slightly more than a ONS hook up.
The writers would need to write a story that puts a nice, rosy foundation, under a train wreck beginning to make it romantic for me. So far the storyline is just Sex..no depth. IMO.
It does not seem relevant now at least since ej is not in relationship that have depth or Abby never was indepth realtionship
So, the only reason a relationship has depth is when the two people are having sex? Sami and EJ are engaged to be married. He professed his love to her multiple times, including the same day he slept with Abby.
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Jan 16 2014, 09:35 PM
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John & Marlena did re-marry - she mentioned it in a 'blink-and-you-miss-it' scene where she mentioned it in passing. Thanks for the response about Bope though!! :cheers:
Wait... they got remarried off-screen? Just like the mourning of Jack must've been done off-screen.
Oh my God! I was thinking that too! What's going to happen with Ryan Brady now? Is it possible that he may be ACTUALLY alive? I know that the Santeen story is pretty much shit but I can't seem to shake my mind off the fact that a LITTLE KID has died. I always feel a tug in my heart strings whenever I hear of a kid dying.
Guess we'll just have to wait for Hope to get another phone call to find out.
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Jan 16 2014, 10:33 PM
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Jan 16 2014, 11:51 AM
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Jan 16 2014, 10:53 AM

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The writers would need to write a story that puts a nice, rosy foundation, under a train wreck beginning to make it romantic for me. So far the storyline is just Sex..no depth. IMO.
It does not seem relevant now at least since ej is not in relationship that have depth or Abby never was indepth realtionship
So, the only reason a relationship has depth is when the two people are having sex? Sami and EJ are engaged to be married. He professed his love to her multiple times, including the same day he slept with Abby.
Ej and Abby have not yet written with depth but ej and Sami never were written in depth despite they engaged now I give you example ej sent fake rafe to pretend to be rafe during that time Sami slept with fake rafe that later threaten to hurt allie and when Sami find about fake rafe the fake rafe tried to kill her what meanfull talk ej and Sami about it was Sami saying no more clowning like joke it not how relationship with death written.as I said ej and Sami written with zero depth.
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