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Thursday, January 23rd Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 23 2014, 01:12 AM (30,885 Views)
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Jan 23 2014, 07:10 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 05:51 PM
I've mentioned before that this kind of thing made me stop supporting a couple that I previously liked.
My nosiness is getting the better of me, which couple/show was this?

Dansea. I went from hating it to liking it, then I saw the bedroom scene with tiny little Chelsea nervously waiting for Daniel to come in and it just looked inappropriate and wrong. It was a relief when Chelsea changed her mind didn't go through with sleeping with him. I started out fine with Chelsea/Nick and continued to be, because crazily enough, my opinion on Chelsea having sex was colored by the context of the situation and the partner involved.
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jam6242
Jan 23 2014, 07:22 PM
The age difference between EJ and Abby doesn't bother me at all. Abby doesn't seem like a teenager to me. As a matter of fact, for the past year or so she's acted like the parent and Jennifer the child in their relationship and I hated that. Now, she seems to be acting more age appropriate.
In real life, rich handsome men like EJ almost ALWAYS would go for a young, beautiful educated woman like Abby vs. an uneducated, style-less, divorcee with lots of arrests and baggage like Sami. So the age difference doesn't bother me at all. The fantasyland is actually trying to convince me that a man like EJ would look twice at someone like Sami. I suppose that's why this is a soap. lol
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Another good episode. the "I know that you will handle Julie just like you handled Abigail" line was absolutely perfect.It had me loling.
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Jan 23 2014, 07:54 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 07:17 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 07:07 PM
I'm sorry but those two don't look like a couple to me. They look like a father having a conversation with his adult daughter. I could see EJ with Hope, heck even Theresa but not Abby.
JS looks much older than his actual age, imo.
He always looks thirties to me,early or mid most of the time but late when he wears his glasses,especially when they are at the end of his nose.Regardless,most of the time I find him extremely handsome.How old does he look to you?
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Jan 23 2014, 07:58 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 07:31 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 05:51 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 05:12 PM

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The difference is that AS couldn't pass for a teenager. I see it's become the thing to dismiss everyone's complaints by bringing up Sami (because obviously, what else could complaints about Abby be about? After all, everybody was just thrilled with Abby's behavior before ejabby started, right? :rolleyes: ) but the trifecta of Abby looking very young, acting younger and being so tiny seems off when compared to JS who looks so much older. I've mentioned before that this kind of thing made me stop supporting a couple that I previously liked.
No shit.

And how is it somehow surprising that people have different opinions about Abby or Ejabby? Seriously? Not everybody on here is going to agree that a couple is awesome. And that goes TRIPLE when it's any couple that starts with a EJ--- or ends with a ----ami. Can't we just debate the merits of a couple rather than debating the merits of having a different opinion about said couple?
I don't know about this. Are people balking at the idea that there are those who don't absolutely love and fawn over Ejabby? I don't get that impression; it's just opinions that are disagreement with other opinions. But maybe I am missing something.

Abby looks young in comparison to EJ - gotcha. Believe me, I get it. Fair enough, although I never got father/daughter niece/avuncular figure or whatever you want to call it from them. Which is probably why I enjoy them in part, or why I am able to enjoy them. But given that some think EJ is currently engaged to someone who also resembles a child, I can understand why that rejoinder or comparison would come up. I have made it myself, mostly in an attempt to try to be "funny" as best I can, which is never a good idea probably. I understand that most of the "young girl" stuff for Abby comes from her looking physically youngish (although her behavior seems to be a sticking point on that front as well) and Sami does not look as physically young or small, but her behavior sometimes makes it seem like EJ is dealing with a teenager anyway. And yes, Sami acting like a child does not CANCEL OUT Abby looking (and acting like a child), and it is none of Sami's doing that Abby appears young and small. But I think that is where the comparison/equivalencies are coming from...and I don't think they are so off base (and I am sure there is a healthy dose of attempted snark coming into play anyway). I just think it's people disagreeing the "young child" thing is an issue.

But those who see it as a deal-breaker or overwhelmingly ubiquitous or grossly inappropriate, are certainly free to hold and express that opinion. I haven't seen posts debating the merit of HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION, just commenting on their thoughts about that opinion, engaging the premise put forth by the opinion (eg, not understanding why it's such a "problem"). I dunno, that's what I have gathered anyway.

Jokes are jokes, of course, and they don't need air-tight logic to exist. Nor must they be followed by a lengthy debate each and every time.
On the bold, let me make an example that might help. In this thread, someone has suggested that people probably think ejabby is creepy because Abby's not Sami. Let's say that you say you post that you find a particular aspect of ejami disturbing, then I come in and say you probably don't really feel that way at all. You're only complaining because it's not ejabby. See how that could be annoying?
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Jan 23 2014, 07:31 PM
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The difference is that AS couldn't pass for a teenager. I see it's become the thing to dismiss everyone's complaints by bringing up Sami (because obviously, what else could complaints about Abby be about? After all, everybody was just thrilled with Abby's behavior before ejabby started, right? :rolleyes: ) but the trifecta of Abby looking very young, acting younger and being so tiny seems off when compared to JS who looks so much older. I've mentioned before that this kind of thing made me stop supporting a couple that I previously liked.
No shit.

And how is it somehow surprising that people have different opinions about Abby or Ejabby? Seriously? Not everybody on here is going to agree that a couple is awesome. And that goes TRIPLE when it's any couple that starts with a EJ--- or ends with a ----ami. Can't we just debate the merits of a couple rather than debating the merits of having a different opinion about said couple?
I don't know about this. Are people balking at the idea that there are those who don't absolutely love and fawn over Ejabby? I don't get that impression; it's just opinions that are disagreement with other opinions. But maybe I am missing something.

Abby looks young in comparison to EJ - gotcha. Believe me, I get it. Fair enough, although I never got father/daughter niece/avuncular figure or whatever you want to call it from them. Which is probably why I enjoy them in part, or why I am able to enjoy them. But given that some think EJ is currently engaged to someone who also resembles a child, I can understand why that rejoinder or comparison would come up. I have made it myself, mostly in an attempt to try to be "funny" as best I can, which is never a good idea probably. I understand that most of the "young girl" stuff for Abby comes from her looking physically youngish (although her behavior seems to be a sticking point on that front as well) and Sami does not look as physically young or small, but her behavior sometimes makes it seem like EJ is dealing with a teenager anyway. And yes, Sami acting like a child does not CANCEL OUT Abby looking (and acting like a child), and it is none of Sami's doing that Abby appears young and small. But I think that is where the comparison/equivalencies are coming from...and I don't think they are so off base (and I am sure there is a healthy dose of attempted snark coming into play anyway). I just think it's people disagreeing the "young child" thing is an issue.

But those who see it as a deal-breaker or overwhelmingly ubiquitous or grossly inappropriate, are certainly free to hold and express that opinion. I haven't seen posts debating the merit of HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION, just commenting on their thoughts about that opinion, engaging the premise put forth by the opinion (eg, not understanding why it's such a "problem"). I dunno, that's what I have gathered anyway.

Jokes are jokes, of course, and they don't need air-tight logic to exist. Nor must they be followed by a lengthy debate each and every time.
It's not the debate or the funny posts at all, elci. It's the accusation that the only reason for thinking EJ and Abby look weird together is being an Ejami fan which was made in this thread.

I think we all know who ships who around here and as much as I might side eye some reasons for why they ship, I don't think their reasons for shipping should be up for debate.

And I'm going to stop before I get my wrist slapped.
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Jan 23 2014, 08:16 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 07:58 PM
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No shit.

And how is it somehow surprising that people have different opinions about Abby or Ejabby? Seriously? Not everybody on here is going to agree that a couple is awesome. And that goes TRIPLE when it's any couple that starts with a EJ--- or ends with a ----ami. Can't we just debate the merits of a couple rather than debating the merits of having a different opinion about said couple?
I don't know about this. Are people balking at the idea that there are those who don't absolutely love and fawn over Ejabby? I don't get that impression; it's just opinions that are disagreement with other opinions. But maybe I am missing something.

Abby looks young in comparison to EJ - gotcha. Believe me, I get it. Fair enough, although I never got father/daughter niece/avuncular figure or whatever you want to call it from them. Which is probably why I enjoy them in part, or why I am able to enjoy them. But given that some think EJ is currently engaged to someone who also resembles a child, I can understand why that rejoinder or comparison would come up. I have made it myself, mostly in an attempt to try to be "funny" as best I can, which is never a good idea probably. I understand that most of the "young girl" stuff for Abby comes from her looking physically youngish (although her behavior seems to be a sticking point on that front as well) and Sami does not look as physically young or small, but her behavior sometimes makes it seem like EJ is dealing with a teenager anyway. And yes, Sami acting like a child does not CANCEL OUT Abby looking (and acting like a child), and it is none of Sami's doing that Abby appears young and small. But I think that is where the comparison/equivalencies are coming from...and I don't think they are so off base (and I am sure there is a healthy dose of attempted snark coming into play anyway). I just think it's people disagreeing the "young child" thing is an issue.

But those who see it as a deal-breaker or overwhelmingly ubiquitous or grossly inappropriate, are certainly free to hold and express that opinion. I haven't seen posts debating the merit of HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION, just commenting on their thoughts about that opinion, engaging the premise put forth by the opinion (eg, not understanding why it's such a "problem"). I dunno, that's what I have gathered anyway.

Jokes are jokes, of course, and they don't need air-tight logic to exist. Nor must they be followed by a lengthy debate each and every time.
It's not the debate or the funny posts at all, elci. It's the accusation that the only reason for thinking EJ and Abby look weird together is being an Ejami fan which was made in this thread.

I think we all know who ships who around here and as much as I might side eye some reasons for why they ship, I don't think their reasons for shipping should be up for debate.

And I'm going to stop before I get my wrist slapped.
I see. Well of course that's annoying - not unlike the suggestion that has been made that those that like Ejabby or see chemistry are Ejami "haters" and the perception of chemistry comes from that point of opposition only.

I was just responding to what I thought was being brought up re: Sami being child-like and Abby being child-like, and how I can see why such equivalencies would be made as a way to debate or highlight points, etc. (or stir the pot, granted, point out perceived disconnects, that sort of thing)
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Anyone else disappointed that we didn't get a hint that Aidan knows Hope by reputation, since he's an attorney? Clearly he's new in town, but still. I would have added a nice layer.
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Jan 23 2014, 08:25 PM
Anyone else disappointed that we didn't get a hint that Aidan knows Hope by reputation, since he's an attorney? Clearly he's new in town, but still. I would have added a nice layer.
Depends on what kind of lawyer he is. If he's a patent lawyer, for example, then he likely wouldn't have crossed paths with her.
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Jan 23 2014, 08:07 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 07:22 PM
The age difference between EJ and Abby doesn't bother me at all. Abby doesn't seem like a teenager to me. As a matter of fact, for the past year or so she's acted like the parent and Jennifer the child in their relationship and I hated that. Now, she seems to be acting more age appropriate.
In real life, rich handsome men like EJ almost ALWAYS would go for a young, beautiful educated woman like Abby vs. an uneducated, style-less, divorcee with lots of arrests and baggage like Sami. So the age difference doesn't bother me at all. The fantasyland is actually trying to convince me that a man like EJ would look twice at someone like Sami. I suppose that's why this is a soap. lol
I've never understood how Sami got any of her men. One of my co-workers always said it was her boobs!
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I'm a Sami fan first and foremost so naturally if someone she loves is running around on her, I can totally understand not liking that other coupling. But my reasons for not liking Ejabby is not because of Ejami. Heck EJ can be paired off with any other 'Older' woman and I'll approve if they have chemistry. My issue is the age thing and also what the SL represents. I get its a soap and to many like myself, its sometimes a form of escapism from the reels of everyday life.

This SL hits too close to home for me to enjoy it. The engaged committed man leaving/running around on his family with someone younger and also a family member is not appealing to me. I don't want to see that on my screen and be reminded of the hurt it brings. But to each its own and I respect everyone's opinion and preferences.
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Jan 23 2014, 05:31 PM
9 yr olds have pubes? :shrug:
lol! Can I thumbs up more than once!
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Jan 23 2014, 08:16 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 07:58 PM
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No shit.

And how is it somehow surprising that people have different opinions about Abby or Ejabby? Seriously? Not everybody on here is going to agree that a couple is awesome. And that goes TRIPLE when it's any couple that starts with a EJ--- or ends with a ----ami. Can't we just debate the merits of a couple rather than debating the merits of having a different opinion about said couple?
I don't know about this. Are people balking at the idea that there are those who don't absolutely love and fawn over Ejabby? I don't get that impression; it's just opinions that are disagreement with other opinions. But maybe I am missing something.

Abby looks young in comparison to EJ - gotcha. Believe me, I get it. Fair enough, although I never got father/daughter niece/avuncular figure or whatever you want to call it from them. Which is probably why I enjoy them in part, or why I am able to enjoy them. But given that some think EJ is currently engaged to someone who also resembles a child, I can understand why that rejoinder or comparison would come up. I have made it myself, mostly in an attempt to try to be "funny" as best I can, which is never a good idea probably. I understand that most of the "young girl" stuff for Abby comes from her looking physically youngish (although her behavior seems to be a sticking point on that front as well) and Sami does not look as physically young or small, but her behavior sometimes makes it seem like EJ is dealing with a teenager anyway. And yes, Sami acting like a child does not CANCEL OUT Abby looking (and acting like a child), and it is none of Sami's doing that Abby appears young and small. But I think that is where the comparison/equivalencies are coming from...and I don't think they are so off base (and I am sure there is a healthy dose of attempted snark coming into play anyway). I just think it's people disagreeing the "young child" thing is an issue.

But those who see it as a deal-breaker or overwhelmingly ubiquitous or grossly inappropriate, are certainly free to hold and express that opinion. I haven't seen posts debating the merit of HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION, just commenting on their thoughts about that opinion, engaging the premise put forth by the opinion (eg, not understanding why it's such a "problem"). I dunno, that's what I have gathered anyway.

Jokes are jokes, of course, and they don't need air-tight logic to exist. Nor must they be followed by a lengthy debate each and every time.
It's not the debate or the funny posts at all, elci. It's the accusation that the only reason for thinking EJ and Abby look weird together is being an Ejami fan which was made in this thread.

I think we all know who ships who around here and as much as I might side eye some reasons for why they ship, I don't think their reasons for shipping should be up for debate.

And I'm going to stop before I get my wrist slapped.
I'm going to agree with Tom, here.

It really doesn't matter why someone finds a couple disturbing or if anyone agrees with that assessment.

It's their opinion, they're entitled to it & to say it's because it isn't (insert your favorite) is insulting.

Also, it seems like the point was totally lost. I think those that were commenting on it being disturbing were doing so because they had teenage daughters with the same build, etc & it just caused a problem for them. I understand because I've got a young twenty something & I couldn't finish fifty shades of gray because the subject was a twenty something. It was disturbing to me but not to many other of my friends.

My main problem with the story is that EJ is being a total prick and Abby has the personality (that's been written) of a shrewish, holier than thou, no experiences, sheltered bore.

Their sizes or ages don't really matter that much to me except it does provide some comic material.
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Jan 23 2014, 08:29 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 08:25 PM
Anyone else disappointed that we didn't get a hint that Aidan knows Hope by reputation, since he's an attorney? Clearly he's new in town, but still. I would have added a nice layer.
Depends on what kind of lawyer he is. If he's a patent lawyer, for example, then he likely wouldn't have crossed paths with her.
Something tells me he's not a patent lawyer. But even if he hasn't crossed paths with her (which I'm fine with) I imagine an attorney at law would familiarize himself with local law enforcement when moving to a new place - if he hasn't been in Salem since before November off-screen, that is.
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Jan 23 2014, 02:00 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 01:58 PM
hahaha! Abby's with EJ. Enter Hope & Julie. EJ's eyes clearly say "Well, fuck."
He's obviously assessing whether he could really pull off a 3-generational 4-way.
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jam6242
Jan 23 2014, 08:36 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 07:22 PM
The age difference between EJ and Abby doesn't bother me at all. Abby doesn't seem like a teenager to me. As a matter of fact, for the past year or so she's acted like the parent and Jennifer the child in their relationship and I hated that. Now, she seems to be acting more age appropriate.
In real life, rich handsome men like EJ almost ALWAYS would go for a young, beautiful educated woman like Abby vs. an uneducated, style-less, divorcee with lots of arrests and baggage like Sami. So the age difference doesn't bother me at all. The fantasyland is actually trying to convince me that a man like EJ would look twice at someone like Sami. I suppose that's why this is a soap. lol
I've never understood how Sami got any of her men. One of my co-workers always said it was her boobs!
Well,your co-worker's explanation makes more sense than anything we've seen on screen.
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Jan 23 2014, 08:25 PM
Anyone else disappointed that we didn't get a hint that Aidan knows Hope by reputation, since he's an attorney? Clearly he's new in town, but still. I would have added a nice layer.
Actually I'm excited he hasn't, or hoped he hasn't. Because to watch two people in love, especially people who have received bad first impressions (which this meeting is a great way to do it, a parent's love for his or her child will result in knee jerk and sometimes irrational snap decisions but it's understandable) will need to overcome those mistaken perceptions. Hearing about Hope's accomplishments in her job will come first, which he will probably believe that's come at the expense of Ciara. But then her own personal characteristics are what is going to (hopefully) get him to fall in love with her.
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Jan 23 2014, 02:12 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 02:08 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 01:54 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 01:50 PM
Love that long look between EJ and Abby. They are so gonna be a couple.
I was actually thinking the same thing....the long look....the soft background music. And I was kind of thinking and her holding a baby too made me think that she might get pregnant.
Really? That scene was very unsettling to me. That soft music sounded like it belonged in a horror movie. Abby looked like a deer in the headlights and even though I'm sure it was unintentional, the tone EJ used sounded like the ones villains use when they're saying kind words that are actually a threat.

Of course, EJ does like to menace his his women on occasion...
Yeah, I didn't get a romantic vibe either with the musical cues and EJ's tone of voice. I thought it was supposed to be more creepy, menacing.
I thought the scene was strange because all of it from the background bible to the baby holding were constructs that would be used for a couple which has been soapily been kept apart for a long time. Instead it was awkward because these two talked about angel's wings a few times and then fucked in a cabin two days ago.

Moreover I don't get what EJ is trying to keep Abby from saying..."Julie! Gabi had a terrible fight with Nick in the town square!"

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Jan 23 2014, 08:51 PM
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Really? That scene was very unsettling to me. That soft music sounded like it belonged in a horror movie. Abby looked like a deer in the headlights and even though I'm sure it was unintentional, the tone EJ used sounded like the ones villains use when they're saying kind words that are actually a threat.

Of course, EJ does like to menace his his women on occasion...
Yeah, I didn't get a romantic vibe either with the musical cues and EJ's tone of voice. I thought it was supposed to be more creepy, menacing.
I thought the scene was strange because all of it from the background bible to the baby holding were constructs that would be used for a couple which has been soapily been kept apart for a long time. Instead it was awkward because these two talked about angel's wings a few times and then fucked in a cabin two days ago.

Moreover I don't get what EJ is trying to keep Abby from saying..."Julie! Gabi had a terrible fight with Nick in the town square!"

Don't forget EJ talking about all he and Abby had been through together! :blulaugh: I like them but I still find many aspects of the story funny.
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Jan 23 2014, 02:49 PM
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Jan 23 2014, 02:32 PM
Do I even need to say anything?

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I just want to jump into my TV, grab the back of their heads, and FORCE them to kiss already!

I'll be a gibbering, fangirling mess when they do.
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