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Friday, January 24th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 24 2014, 12:18 AM (33,697 Views)
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Partnersincrime
Jan 26 2014, 02:50 AM
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Jan 26 2014, 02:03 AM
As a fairly new viewer to Days, I was not watching the show at all when all the history of Ejami took place. Meaning, what EJ did to Sami and Sami did to EJ does not affect me in the same way say as a viewer who went through all the Ejami drama as it unfolded before them. Therefore I feel fairly neutral in my views of Ejami in general. I neither hate them nor do I ship them, they just are for me, if that makes sense. So here is my opinion of Ejami and Ejabby. When I watch the show, I see Ejami as a couple who has gone through many hurdles to be together, And I believe at their core, EJ and Sami love each other very much, but as Lucas once said to Sami, "Sometimes love isn't enough." I think that in the end, Sami and EJ can forgive all transgressions they caused each other but not the transgressions caused by their loved ones to each other's loved one's. Ultimately, I think that in the end, Ejami will not be able to survive their relationship despite them wanting to and loving each other.

When I watch, I see EJ as a middle aged man (not sure what his age is supposed to be on screen, but I place him at around 40) who feels like he is not getting all that he needs from the woman he loves, so he turns to a younger woman who has him placed on a pedestal and for her own reasons idolizes him. Perhaps Abigail has daddy issues, perhaps not (ymmv), but the conditions were right for a brief but passionate affair or one day stand if you prefer. I think that after being together, EJ and Abigail both realized that they liked the sex a lot more than they thought they would. And right now, both are in lust despite them both not wanting to be. I think that EJabby will happen again and I also think the fall out from being caught will make for great soapy story telling. But I also think that EJabby will not last long either. As I am a newby, I do not want to trash any one's 'ship or come across as a troll, but for me, this is what I see when I watch the EJ/Sami/Abigail triangle. Like I said, I'm not as emotionally connected to this/these couples as others so I watch them differently. Oh, and what I intended to say originally before my long rambling comment was that I don't think Abigail is intimidated by EJ but I do think, that EJ is intimidated by Abigail and his feelings for her.

There stuff I probably disagree with you.but the only thing I took from your post holy crap there new viewer that knows who lucas is
LOL I though the exact same thing!!!! It was good to read ;)
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Jan 26 2014, 06:56 AM
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Jan 26 2014, 06:34 AM
Nah I'm pretty sure that this sl was written to end EJami, those who enjoy EJami do not buy that EJ is cheating regardsless motive, and why would they do that quite crass? The show has written constantly that EJ have seen Sami as his one and only, that he is cheating is definitely the end why would Sami forgive it? No way in hell that she will forgive him, but that doesn't matter, Sure they test EJ with Abby to check feedback etc but when it comes to the storyline, it's lame and not believable to me and it has nothing to do with EJami more with the characters as I said before I can not see a man like EJ be drawn to lame and boring women, this is precisely what makes this sl is wtf, not that he is cheating more who he is cheating with, and I see sexual chemistry between EJ and Abby but it doesn't matter because I want to see more of a story for me to be interested. There has to be an attraction to the characters as well.
Okay so lets assume Abby used as a story tool to end EJAMI. Its all get revealed and the romance of Abby dies out (Haven forbid) and Sami cuts EJ out of her life.

Then who is woman enough for EJ currently on screen? And why would you pair them.. and most importantly how?
Well, if they wanted to tap into a scandal so had Hope clearly been a better candidate. lol and she's a strong character which could also challenge's EJ at all levels :) But for future story with romantic elements, I would have rather seen a new character for EJ like Emily Thorne type aka revenge. There had been a lot more interesting than this lame sl with EJ and Abby. IMO
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Yep, Blake does a villain very very well even if I do miss my geeky Fallonator and would love to see him make an appearance every now and then.
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The Scorpion
Jan 26 2014, 09:36 AM
DayDreamer
Jan 26 2014, 06:56 AM
The Scorpion
Jan 26 2014, 06:34 AM
Nah I'm pretty sure that this sl was written to end EJami, those who enjoy EJami do not buy that EJ is cheating regardsless motive, and why would they do that quite crass? The show has written constantly that EJ have seen Sami as his one and only, that he is cheating is definitely the end why would Sami forgive it? No way in hell that she will forgive him, but that doesn't matter, Sure they test EJ with Abby to check feedback etc but when it comes to the storyline, it's lame and not believable to me and it has nothing to do with EJami more with the characters as I said before I can not see a man like EJ be drawn to lame and boring women, this is precisely what makes this sl is wtf, not that he is cheating more who he is cheating with, and I see sexual chemistry between EJ and Abby but it doesn't matter because I want to see more of a story for me to be interested. There has to be an attraction to the characters as well.
Okay so lets assume Abby used as a story tool to end EJAMI. Its all get revealed and the romance of Abby dies out (Haven forbid) and Sami cuts EJ out of her life.

Then who is woman enough for EJ currently on screen? And why would you pair them.. and most importantly how?
Well, if they wanted to tap into a scandal so had Hope clearly been a better candidate. lol and she's a strong character which could also challenge's EJ at all levels :) But for future story with romantic elements, I would have rather seen a new character for EJ like Emily Thorne type aka revenge. There had been a lot more interesting than this lame sl with EJ and Abby. IMO
I don't think Hope is as easily seduced. If they wanted to do something like that, they need to have had something happen to Bo so that Hope was so devastated she would turn to someone else, a la, the whole Patrick Lockhart incident after Zach died. As much as I hate to bring Abby's age into it, Abby is still young enough (although she's developing backbone when it comes to EJ), that she is still easily swayed by her awakening libido. They have to dance carefully around the character of Hope. If this had happened and with EJ, it could have easily ruined her character. Yes, a lot of people want EJope, but I think it has to happen a different way in order for her to stay intact. Yes, I also know they didn't seem to be worried about other character's integrity, but I don't know. For some reason, Hope just seems to be a little bit more protected. And this "boring" story isn't over yet. But I honestly think, for whatever reason, there are some like you who just are not intrigued and probably won't be intrigued, and that's why different tastes and opinions make the world go round! IF this was a true front burner story, I think that would be an entirely different case altogether and yes, it is NOT a good front-burner story. It's just a small burgeoning part of an umbrella story and part of one of the many secrets Elvis is keeping, along with what he knows about Kristen and the entire dance he's doing with that regarding Sami that is slowly tearing EJami apart. I think he's trying to appease Sami sort of by protecting her with the Nick situation so maybe she will finally lose focus on Kristen, but it's not working. I think we often are not looking at the whole package. (Well, some want to look at EJ's whole package, but I digress)......
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I don't think this Ejami-Ejabby story is designed to do anything more than create drama and shake up the canvas. This story was written three months before TPTB knew Sami would be exiting the canvas, so I doubt they had any thoughts of "endgame" in mind. They just wanted to do a story that would get people talking and engaged, and nothing seems to do that more than EJ___ and ___ami related pairings. I'm sure Ejami will break up because of this. I'm sure Ejabby will be revisited at some time down the road. And I'm sure Ejami would've been revisited too (obviously that's changed because of AS' departure). Days doesn't do long-term, meant to be, supercouples now. So this is just part of the cycle.

I do think this storyline shows that TPTB really do NOT like EJ being part of a happy couple. This is now the fourth in four years time they've given him a fiancée he loves and a big secret that will blow up that relationship. This time, they actually allowed EJ to be happily in love without a huge secret for 10 months, so I guess that was a bit different. But yeah, it's clear a happily-in-love EJ isn't something the writers really like. Thank goodness for that, LOL.

I'm curious to see what they do with Abby coming out of this affair. They've tried twice to create stories like this to add "depth" to her character. And I know some folks like her better now that she's been having sex with EJ, but I'm still not sure where they go with her after that's over. I get the sense to want to make her a heroine in the lines of Hope and Jen, but the writers seems clueless on how to do that because they've lost their ability to write somebody as both a good person and an interesting person at the same time. I'm guessing they will have Abby "wake up" and be shocked by her actions and then try to re-set her again (KM said as much in her MF interview at DOD), but re-set her to what? I'm just hoping it's not her 2013 persona.

Anyway, those are my lazy Sunday morning thoughts. Kudos to you if you managed to read though all of them.
Edited by tomsawyer, Jan 26 2014, 11:02 AM.
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Jan 26 2014, 10:31 AM
I get the sense to want to make her a heroine in the lines of Hope and Jen, but the writers seems clueless on how to do that because they've lost their ability to write somebody as both a good person and an interesting person at the same time. I'm guessing they will have Abby "wake up" and be shocked by her actions and then try to re-set her again (KM said as much in her MF interview at DOD), but re-set her to what? I'm just hoping it's not her 2013 persona.

Nicole seems to be on her way to a "good" person (for Nicole) and interesting, but then again, that's probably the actor. You make some good points. I hope KM can carry this type of scenario. I'm thinking there might be a good possibility she can.
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Jan 26 2014, 11:09 AM
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Jan 26 2014, 10:31 AM
I get the sense to want to make her a heroine in the lines of Hope and Jen, but the writers seems clueless on how to do that because they've lost their ability to write somebody as both a good person and an interesting person at the same time. I'm guessing they will have Abby "wake up" and be shocked by her actions and then try to re-set her again (KM said as much in her MF interview at DOD), but re-set her to what? I'm just hoping it's not her 2013 persona.

Nicole seems to be on her way to a "good" person (for Nicole) and interesting, but then again, that's probably the actor. You make some good points. I hope KM can carry this type of scenario. I'm thinking there might be a good possibility she can.
I absolutely agree that Nicole is on her way to being both "good" and interesting. I think they do a much better job with people that start off as "bad" and then redeem them. Their past and their redemption story tends to create some layers that make them a character with more depth. Plus, as you said, AZ gets a lot of credit. She always manages to inject humor, personality and humanity into Nicole, regardless of what she's doing. So even when she's walking the straight and narrow, she comes off as caring, funny and big hearted, rather than judgmental.

The jury is still out for me on KM. I think she's a decent actor, but I also think a lot of the acting choices she made in 2013 were pretty bad. There were plenty of scenes where she could've delivered a line in a way that made Abby look smart and caring, and instead she came off as judgmental and shrewish. But she's young, so there is a lot of time for her to get better. Hopefully doing this story helps in that regard.
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tomsawyer
Jan 26 2014, 10:31 AM
I don't think this Ejami-Ejabby story is designed to do anything more than create drama and shake up the canvas. This story was written three months before TPTB knew Sami would be exiting the canvas, so I doubt they had any thoughts of "endgame" in mind. They just wanted to do a story that would get people talking and engaged, and nothing seems to do that more than EJ___ and ___ami related pairings. I'm sure Ejami will break up because of this. I'm sure Ejabby will be revisited at some time down the road. And I'm sure Ejami would've been revisited too (obviously that's changed because of AS' departure). Days doesn't do long-term, meant to be, supercouples now. So this is just part of the cycle.

I do think this storyline shows that TPTB really do NOT like EJ being part of a happy couple. This is now the fourth in four years time they've given him a fiancée he loves and a big secret that will blow up that relationship. This time, they actually allowed EJ to be happily in love without a huge secret for 10 months, so I guess that was a bit different. But yeah, it's clear a happily-in-love EJ isn't something the writers really like. Thank goodness for that, LOL.

I'm curious to see what they do with Abby coming out of this affair. They've tried twice to create stories like this to add "depth" to her character. And I know some folks like her better now that she's been having sex with EJ, but I'm still not sure where they go with her after that's over. I get the sense to want to make her a heroine in the lines of Hope and Jen, but the writers seems clueless on how to do that because they've lost their ability to write somebody as both a good person and an interesting person at the same time. I'm guessing they will have Abby "wake up" and be shocked by her actions and then try to re-set her again (KM said as much in her MF interview at DOD), but re-set her to what? I'm just hoping it's not her 2013 persona.

Anyway, those are my lazy Sunday morning thoughts. Kudos to you if you managed to read though all of them.


Since TPTB didn´t know until november that AS were leaving maybe they did Ejabby without it having anything to do with her departure unless she hinted before than she was considering leaving. While I do like EJ in relationships I think I love him even more when he is chasing a woman it easier for him to remain bad then.

ladyofthelake
Jan 26 2014, 11:09 AM
tomsawyer
Jan 26 2014, 10:31 AM
I get the sense to want to make her a heroine in the lines of Hope and Jen, but the writers seems clueless on how to do that because they've lost their ability to write somebody as both a good person and an interesting person at the same time. I'm guessing they will have Abby "wake up" and be shocked by her actions and then try to re-set her again (KM said as much in her MF interview at DOD), but re-set her to what? I'm just hoping it's not her 2013 persona.

Nicole seems to be on her way to a "good" person (for Nicole) and interesting, but then again, that's probably the actor. You make some good points. I hope KM can carry this type of scenario. I'm thinking there might be a good possibility she can.


While I think Ericole has chemistry they are not that interesting to me probably because Nicole becomes to good with him I like her more bad and snarky, so even though I think Ericole has better chemistry than Ejole I would be more interested in Ejole, of course the other part of Ejole being EJ doesn´t hurt either.
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Jan 26 2014, 11:26 AM
ladyofthelake
Jan 26 2014, 11:09 AM
tomsawyer
Jan 26 2014, 10:31 AM
I get the sense to want to make her a heroine in the lines of Hope and Jen, but the writers seems clueless on how to do that because they've lost their ability to write somebody as both a good person and an interesting person at the same time. I'm guessing they will have Abby "wake up" and be shocked by her actions and then try to re-set her again (KM said as much in her MF interview at DOD), but re-set her to what? I'm just hoping it's not her 2013 persona.

Nicole seems to be on her way to a "good" person (for Nicole) and interesting, but then again, that's probably the actor. You make some good points. I hope KM can carry this type of scenario. I'm thinking there might be a good possibility she can.
I absolutely agree that Nicole is on her way to being both "good" and interesting. I think they do a much better job with people that start off as "bad" and then redeem them. Their past and their redemption story tends to create some layers that make them a character with more depth. Plus, as you said, AZ gets a lot of credit. She always manages to inject humor, personality and humanity into Nicole, regardless of what she's doing. So even when she's walking the straight and narrow, she comes off as caring, funny and big hearted, rather than judgmental.

The jury is still out for me on KM. I think she's a decent actor, but I also think a lot of the acting choices she made in 2013 were pretty bad. There were plenty of scenes where she could've delivered a line in a way that made Abby look smart and caring, and instead she came off as judgmental and shrewish. But she's young, so there is a lot of time for her to get better. Hopefully doing this story helps in that regard.
I think it is easier to take a bad person, redeem them, and then keep them interesting because you can always have their past revisit them and/or use their insecurities or vulnerabilities to keep them from becoming too good.

But, I think good writers can make characters both good and interesting if they just put a little effort into it. I'm admittedly biased but Kayla, Hope, and Jennifer all fit this description back in the day. The show did it by (a) giving them careers which provided them with something to do not always centered on a man, and (b) taking care to maintain that individuality within a couple.

They really, really need to give Abby a job and actually build a little story around that. I think that would greatly help to define the character and then the show can build from there. Of course, I could say that about most of the cast at this point.
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Yeah, Abby needs a job. And not at the hospital since her dear mother is there. IMO, she should be a reporter - have some scenes with Nicole. Or work for Kate or EJs company. SOMETHING that would cause her conflicts with people.
Edited by DayDreamer, Jan 26 2014, 11:47 AM.
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What I find Ejabby so interesting is the following:

1 . Ej and Abby don't know each other that well. That is interesting to me. Almost everything she knows of him is through what other people have told her. As for EJ to Abigail, everything EJ knows of Abby is probably though Chad and the fact she is a "Horton". This is the biggest plus the couple has going for them IMO. Abigail may be one of the few characters left that EJ has not threatened with physical violence.
2. Their discussions about Chad gave a bit of insight about themselves to the other which opened up a dialog to other things. I'm not saying it was rainbows and violins. I'm just saying Abby was actually discussing her father with the last man she thought she would even speak to while EJ did get to speak about a subject he obviously enjoys and studies (European art). I'm not saying he doesn't love Sami or doesn't enjoy spending time with her, but I doubt very seriously that they can look at a book of European art and discuss it seriously. EJ has interests outside of bailing Sami out and I'm sure he really enjoyed getting to speak to someone about them.
3. I am sure when EJ went to Smith Island, he was positive he could manipulate Abby to worry no longer about Nick. But that didn't happen, every "story" he came up with, she discredited with logic. Instead of screaming at each other and throwing blind accusations, they discussed the situation and Abby began taking into account what she knew and how EJ may fit into this and began to deduce what was going on. And she came pretty damn close to figuring it out that first time (and if Nick hadn't come back, I think she would eventually figured it out). I think Ej was thrown that Abby may be young, inexperienced and naive, but she had proven herself to be a match for him in this particular area.
4. The sex thing also has gotten my interest. Days doesn't do casual sex that often and ESPECIALLY with a character like Abby. It would normally be a more "been around the block" type such as Nicole or Chloe. The fact that Abby is so intensely attracted to EJ is coming right out of a romance novel. She knows it's wrong, there are a 101 reasons not to be go there with EJ but she can't help herself. One could argue that she went through this with Austin but the difference is then she believed she was in love with him. Abby is NOT in love with EJ. I make no allusions and I agree for most of this on her part, it's about lust.
5. As for sex on EJ's part, I do admit that a lot of his "looks" can be vague and ambiguous. We are all reading what we want to see. I want to see that on unconscious level EJ is coming around that Sami is not enough to satisfy him. That this "partnership" they have is not a balanced or healthy one. I know some fans believe that EJ and Sami's love is this great epic romance that blossomed since he arrived in Salem. That's their prerogative. But its also mine to look at EJami and see pain, abuse and indifference. I wouldn't ship EJ and Sami anymore than I would have shipped Todd and Marty on OLTL.
6. On Abbys side, I think they need to build her character up more and what I'm hoping we get to see is they dive into her Johnson roots. I love the Hortons to death but I also adore the Johnsons and I have to admit, Abby's weird self deprecating monologues actually goes right along with Jack and Steve's own self hatred for themselves. If they could bring out more of the Johnson in her, I would really get excited.

FINAL POINT: But should Ejami wind up leaving Salem towards the golden sunset, I'll shrug my shoulders and keep looking for romance and love on this show. I think the big point is for the first time in a long time I am loving this show in almost all its stories. Even Daniel doesnt get on my nerves as much as he used to. So Days must be doing something right.

Edited by Tripp, Jan 26 2014, 12:09 PM.
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I think that Abby is internally struggling with her own moral compass right now. If she wants to be good, or be bad.
I found her godmother speech very telling, she wants to be a role model for Ari, she presented herself the demure Horton princess in the church in front of friends and family.

Then later in the room alone with EJ the lust and confusion come out. I think if she were anywhere else at that moment, she would have jumped his bones.

It's like the angel is on one shoulder, and the devil is on the other. Which way to go.

I do not see her redeeming EJ, rather if this continues him darkening her character.
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esp13
Jan 26 2014, 11:40 AM
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Jan 26 2014, 11:26 AM
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Jan 26 2014, 11:09 AM
tomsawyer
Jan 26 2014, 10:31 AM
I get the sense to want to make her a heroine in the lines of Hope and Jen, but the writers seems clueless on how to do that because they've lost their ability to write somebody as both a good person and an interesting person at the same time. I'm guessing they will have Abby "wake up" and be shocked by her actions and then try to re-set her again (KM said as much in her MF interview at DOD), but re-set her to what? I'm just hoping it's not her 2013 persona.

Nicole seems to be on her way to a "good" person (for Nicole) and interesting, but then again, that's probably the actor. You make some good points. I hope KM can carry this type of scenario. I'm thinking there might be a good possibility she can.
I absolutely agree that Nicole is on her way to being both "good" and interesting. I think they do a much better job with people that start off as "bad" and then redeem them. Their past and their redemption story tends to create some layers that make them a character with more depth. Plus, as you said, AZ gets a lot of credit. She always manages to inject humor, personality and humanity into Nicole, regardless of what she's doing. So even when she's walking the straight and narrow, she comes off as caring, funny and big hearted, rather than judgmental.

The jury is still out for me on KM. I think she's a decent actor, but I also think a lot of the acting choices she made in 2013 were pretty bad. There were plenty of scenes where she could've delivered a line in a way that made Abby look smart and caring, and instead she came off as judgmental and shrewish. But she's young, so there is a lot of time for her to get better. Hopefully doing this story helps in that regard.
I think it is easier to take a bad person, redeem them, and then keep them interesting because you can always have their past revisit them and/or use their insecurities or vulnerabilities to keep them from becoming too good.

But, I think good writers can make characters both good and interesting if they just put a little effort into it. I'm admittedly biased but Kayla, Hope, and Jennifer all fit this description back in the day. The show did it by (a) giving them careers which provided them with something to do not always centered on a man, and (b) taking care to maintain that individuality within a couple.

They really, really need to give Abby a job and actually build a little story around that. I think that would greatly help to define the character and then the show can build from there. Of course, I could say that about most of the cast at this point.
Definitely. Maybe Sami will offer her one! Seriously. That would cause some drama later down the road, but even though I'm in college myself (granted I'm an advanced grad student), college scenarios aren't that interesting on a soap without several others in the same situation to cause drama.
But if she somehow got involved in DiMera Enterprises so she and Sami are both around to cause EJ some discomfort.............what was that storyline where some female was working with Philip, wasn't it, at Titan? Was that Melanie? I seem to recall a situation where Philip had to work with someone he was attracted to but had to avoid. Or am I dreaming?
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Jan 26 2014, 12:08 PM
I think that Abby is internally struggling with her own moral compass right now. If she wants to be good, or be bad.
I found her godmother speech very telling, she wants to be a role model for Ari, she presented herself the demure Horton princess in the church in front of friends and family.

Then later in the room alone with EJ the lust and confusion come out. I think if she were anywhere else at that moment, she would have jumped his bones.

It's like the angel is on one shoulder, and the devil is on the other. Which way to go.

I do not see her redeeming EJ, rather if this continues him darkening her character.
You know Reilly did that angel/devil thing to poor Mimi once when she was debating about whether to squeal that Claire was Shawn's...hilarious! Reilly would so have this happening to Abby in a campy way. Gabi would have been seeing images of Nick with maggots out of his mouth and all that...........sometimes I miss that ole campy JER crap, LOL.
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Jan 26 2014, 11:46 AM
Yeah, Abby needs a job. And not at the hospital since her dear mother is there. IMO, she should be a reporter - have some scenes with Nicole. Or work for Kate or EJs company. SOMETHING that would cause her conflicts with people.
Better she work with Kate and her uncle lucas at least until they would bring back the newspaper back.it will add more to story
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Jan 24 2014, 04:51 PM
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Jan 24 2014, 04:35 PM
When Will and Sonny get married, they should avoid Saint Luke's like the plague. I'm beginning to think it was built over a hell mouth.
It will be really weird if they try and have a gay wedding in St. Luke's, but then again Sami can marry as many times as she wants and Sonny is allowed to be the godfather. The Catholic Church in the Salem-verse is waaaay different.
Why couldn't Sonny be the godfather?
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Jan 26 2014, 06:34 AM
S loves EJ
Jan 26 2014, 06:00 AM
I think the writers wanted to see peoples reactions to Ejabby before deciding whether or not to end Ejami, since they have this back up plan of EJ only sleeping with Abby to save Sami for him to use as an excuse. There seems to be a pretty positive response to Ejabby except among those who likes Ejami so maybe they would have continue with Ejabby even without AS leaving.

I think the hot steamy sex scenes are interesting but I don´t know whether or not they would be interesting as a couple it might depend on if they still would be able to write EJ as grey or not. The show does need more villains that EJ can go up against in order to continue the DE legacy I don´t see him targeting the Brady´s again, and Abby needs to be able to accept his bad side maybe not completly but at least to a point.
Nah I'm pretty sure that this sl was written to end EJami, those who enjoy EJami do not buy that EJ is cheating regardsless motive, and why would they do that quite crass? The show has written constantly that EJ have seen Sami as his one and only , that he is cheating is definitely the end why would Sami forgive it? No way in hell that she will forgive him, but that doesn't matter, Sure they test EJ with Abby to check feedback etc but when it comes to the storyline, it's lame and not believable to me and it has nothing to do with EJami more with the characters as I said before I can not see a man like EJ be drawn to lame and boring women, this is precisely what makes this sl is wtf, not that he is cheating more who he is cheating with, and I see sexual chemistry between EJ and Abby but it doesn't matter because I want to see more of a story for me to be interested. There has to be an attraction to the characters as well.
No, it hasn't.

And they already changed Sami's character to make her forget the disgusting things EJ did to her. She'll just brush off EJ cheating because it's nothing compared to what he's already done.
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Just caught up on Friday's eppy. Brilliant! One of the best eppy they've produced in a long time. Comedy, suspense, drama, this eppy had it all.

I literally gasped when I saw Nick's face. I can't wait to see what he does, next. He's holding all the cards , right now.
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Jan 26 2014, 01:11 PM
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Jan 24 2014, 04:35 PM
When Will and Sonny get married, they should avoid Saint Luke's like the plague. I'm beginning to think it was built over a hell mouth.
It will be really weird if they try and have a gay wedding in St. Luke's, but then again Sami can marry as many times as she wants and Sonny is allowed to be the godfather. The Catholic Church in the Salem-verse is waaaay different.
Why couldn't Sonny be the godfather?
For the same reason that St. Luke's would reject a gay wedding in the real world. In the church, Gay=choice so gay=sin. Even though nearly every species on earth has evidence of homosexuality, thus homosexuality does exist in nature. And brain scans and medical studies have proven that it's in their DNA to be attracted to the same gender, not a "fun" choice they are making. Sonny isn't fighting with every fiber of his being to change himself from being born with attraction for his own gender. That makes him a sinner, so he can't guide Ari to the path of God when he has "rejected" God to choose a sinful lifestyle.

Edited by TreasureCove, Jan 26 2014, 02:45 PM.
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