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Friday, January 24th Daily Discussion
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Jan 25 2014, 04:35 PM
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Jan 25 2014, 02:42 PM
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Jan 25 2014, 01:54 PM
This may have been said, but I love Ari's face in this cap. It's like she's thinking "Nick? Wait, I thought Mom, Grandma and ...Kate Great Grandma killed you."
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fixed. ;)
The Uddell twins are so brilliant in picking up the motions from actors and playing along. Not only is the baby's facial expression perfect, but look at how she's clutching onto CB's dress as if she truly were surprised and terrified.
I'm guessing the actors are not allowed to actually kiss the babies because I don't know how they can resist those cute little lips and cheeks.
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reaganstroller.... Funny you mention kissing the baby I was just thinking about how Will (Guy) kissed the baby's temple in Fridays ep. Sonny (Freddie) has also kissed the baby but not recently iir.
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I also believe that once there is a reveal, that many in the audience at the christening may be upset that Abby is Ari's godmother. First in line will be Will and Sonny themselves. This will be her part of the fallout story.
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Jan 26 2014, 04:59 PM
I also believe that once there is a reveal, that many in the audience at the christening may be upset that Abby is Ari's godmother. First in line will be Will and Sonny themselves. This will be her part of the fallout story.
I think Will and Sonny might not be too hard on Abby. They love her and I think they'll blame EJ, and they might even feel guilty because they went along with operation silence Abby, so they might feel tad responsible.
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Nevermind B-)







Edited by salem_viewer, Jan 26 2014, 05:47 PM.
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Jan 26 2014, 05:29 PM
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Jan 26 2014, 05:10 PM
salem_viewer
Jan 26 2014, 04:59 PM
I also believe that once there is a reveal, that many in the audience at the christening may be upset that Abby is Ari's godmother. First in line will be Will and Sonny themselves. This will be her part of the fallout story.
I think Will and Sonny might not be too hard on Abby. They love her and I think they'll blame EJ, and they might even feel guilty because they went along with operation silence Abby, so they might feel tad responsible.
Sorry disagree,

a godmother should be chosen as a person with good moral character and good role model for Christian upbringing......Abby is sleeping with the fiance of the baby's grandmother ......this would be not approved by the church.

Will,if he had his mom's back, would not be happy.

Honestly, Abby is responsible for her own vajay







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salem_viewer
Jan 26 2014, 05:29 PM
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Jan 26 2014, 04:59 PM
I also believe that once there is a reveal, that many in the audience at the christening may be upset that Abby is Ari's godmother. First in line will be Will and Sonny themselves. This will be her part of the fallout story.
I think Will and Sonny might not be too hard on Abby. They love her and I think they'll blame EJ, and they might even feel guilty because they went along with operation silence Abby, so they might feel tad responsible.
Sorry disagree,

a godmother should be chosen as a person with good moral character and good role model for Christian upbringing......Abby is sleeping with the fiance of the baby's grandmother ......this would be not approved by the church.

Will,if he had his mom's back, would not be happy.







Well, technically, the godfather (and the father) would not be "approved" by the Church, so I don't think Will or Sonny can object on that particular ground.

And Will was the one who walked in on Sami and EJ during *notdeadbabysex* when Sami was cheating on Rafe, so I'm pretty sure he knows his mother is no better.

He might be upset, and that's fine because he can react emotionally without it being logical, but it definitely shouldn't be on the grounds that Abby is not "moral" enough. There really isn't anybody in Salem that would qualify if that was the standard.
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I think Will has every right to make judgements on the morality of who he choses as a godmother for his daughter. Will may not be able to choose who his parents are or his orientation but he has every right to not want Abby in his daughter's life.
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Jan 26 2014, 05:54 PM
I think Will has every right to make judgements on the morality of who he choses as a godmother for his daughter. Will may not be able to choose who his parents are or his orientation but he has every right to not want Abby in his daughter's life.
Sure, he has the right to choose who is in his daughter's life. But if he makes that judgment against Abby on the grounds of her "morality" while not also kicking Sami, Kate, EJ, Lucas, Sonny, and himself out of her life, he's gonna look like a big old hypocrite.

Now, if he's angry because Sami is his mother and Abby's actions have hurt his family, that's different and not hypocritical, just human. I'm just not buying the idea that Abby is any more "immoral" than any of the rest of them.
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Jan 26 2014, 05:51 PM
salem_viewer
Jan 26 2014, 05:29 PM
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Jan 26 2014, 05:10 PM
salem_viewer
Jan 26 2014, 04:59 PM
I also believe that once there is a reveal, that many in the audience at the christening may be upset that Abby is Ari's godmother. First in line will be Will and Sonny themselves. This will be her part of the fallout story.
I think Will and Sonny might not be too hard on Abby. They love her and I think they'll blame EJ, and they might even feel guilty because they went along with operation silence Abby, so they might feel tad responsible.
Sorry disagree,

a godmother should be chosen as a person with good moral character and good role model for Christian upbringing......Abby is sleeping with the fiance of the baby's grandmother ......this would be not approved by the church.

Will,if he had his mom's back, would not be happy.







Well, technically, the godfather (and the father) would not be "approved" by the Church, so I don't think Will or Sonny can object on that particular ground.

And Will was the one who walked in on Sami and EJ during *notdeadbabysex* when Sami was cheating on Rafe, so I'm pretty sure he knows his mother is no better.

He might be upset, and that's fine because he can react emotionally without it being logical, but it definitely shouldn't be on the grounds that Abby is not "moral" enough. There really isn't anybody in Salem that would qualify if that was the standard.
Everyone in the room, including the priest, knew about Will and Sonny, on other hand no one knew about Abby...

Everyone commented how glad they were to have such a nice role model for Ari's godmother.... It was not disclosed she's sleeping with the baby's grandmother's fiance. They might not have chosen her if they knew.

I feel some may not approve. This really is not about anyone but Abby, she took the vow.


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Jan 26 2014, 06:01 PM
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Jan 26 2014, 05:54 PM
I think Will has every right to make judgements on the morality of who he choses as a godmother for his daughter. Will may not be able to choose who his parents are or his orientation but he has every right to not want Abby in his daughter's life.
Sure, he has the right to choose who is in his daughter's life. But if he makes that judgment against Abby on the grounds of her "morality" while not also kicking Sami, Kate, EJ, Lucas, Sonny, and himself out of her life, he's gonna look like a big old hypocrite.

Now, if he's angry because Sami is his mother and Abby's actions have hurt his family, that's different and not hypocritical, just human. I'm just not buying the idea that Abby is any more "immoral" than any of the rest of them.
Well, blood is thicker than water, so which side do you think Will pick? Obviously his mom, probably he does not want Abby around the baby when it is revealed that Abby had sex with his mother's man, this would be a given. :)
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Gabi might have some say in whether Abby is in Ari's life, not just Will.
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Jan 26 2014, 06:08 PM
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Jan 26 2014, 06:01 PM
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Jan 26 2014, 05:54 PM
I think Will has every right to make judgements on the morality of who he choses as a godmother for his daughter. Will may not be able to choose who his parents are or his orientation but he has every right to not want Abby in his daughter's life.
Sure, he has the right to choose who is in his daughter's life. But if he makes that judgment against Abby on the grounds of her "morality" while not also kicking Sami, Kate, EJ, Lucas, Sonny, and himself out of her life, he's gonna look like a big old hypocrite.

Now, if he's angry because Sami is his mother and Abby's actions have hurt his family, that's different and not hypocritical, just human. I'm just not buying the idea that Abby is any more "immoral" than any of the rest of them.
Well, blood is thicker than water, so which side do you think Will pick? Obviously his mom, probably he does not want Abby around the baby when it is revealed that Abby had sex with his mother's man, this would be a given. :)
Also, being around the child, is really different then choosing the godmother, and the role this person will have in the child's life.

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Jan 26 2014, 06:04 PM
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Jan 26 2014, 05:51 PM
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Sorry disagree,

a godmother should be chosen as a person with good moral character and good role model for Christian upbringing......Abby is sleeping with the fiance of the baby's grandmother ......this would be not approved by the church.

Will,if he had his mom's back, would not be happy.







Well, technically, the godfather (and the father) would not be "approved" by the Church, so I don't think Will or Sonny can object on that particular ground.

And Will was the one who walked in on Sami and EJ during *notdeadbabysex* when Sami was cheating on Rafe, so I'm pretty sure he knows his mother is no better.

He might be upset, and that's fine because he can react emotionally without it being logical, but it definitely shouldn't be on the grounds that Abby is not "moral" enough. There really isn't anybody in Salem that would qualify if that was the standard.
Everyone in the room, including the priest, knew about Will and Sonny, on other hand no one knew about Abby...

Everyone commented how glad they were to have such a nice role model for Ari's godmother.... It was not disclosed she's sleeping with the baby's grandmother's fiance. They might not have chosen her if they knew.

I feel some may not approve. This really is not about anyone but Abby, she took the vow.


Yes, I'm sure all those comments were to make sure we all knew how everybody thinks Abby is "good" and will be shocked to find out she's been "bad." And I'm quite sure many will not approve. My point was never about whether Will should be supportive or unsupportive of Abby when the truth comes out. I honestly don't care. My point was simply that using the whole "the Church would not approve" argument is, IMO, not particularly convincing when it would also not approve of the father or godfather (or the mother now that I think about it).

My point was also that anybody in Salem claiming the "moral" highground is a bit ridiculous. If only somebody of "good moral character" was good enough, they'd have to leave town to find a suitable candidate.
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I's natural for Will to be angry at Abby and to feel betrayed. When she decided to sleep with EJ, she didn't think about how that will affect her cousins. But I don't think he'll judge her to be unworthy of his daughter's godmother. He knew about the Austin thing and he didn't hate her for it. I think Will and Sonny will be more understanding and supportive of Abby than expected.
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Jan 26 2014, 06:08 PM
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I think Will has every right to make judgements on the morality of who he choses as a godmother for his daughter. Will may not be able to choose who his parents are or his orientation but he has every right to not want Abby in his daughter's life.
Sure, he has the right to choose who is in his daughter's life. But if he makes that judgment against Abby on the grounds of her "morality" while not also kicking Sami, Kate, EJ, Lucas, Sonny, and himself out of her life, he's gonna look like a big old hypocrite.

Now, if he's angry because Sami is his mother and Abby's actions have hurt his family, that's different and not hypocritical, just human. I'm just not buying the idea that Abby is any more "immoral" than any of the rest of them.
Well, blood is thicker than water, so which side do you think Will pick? Obviously his mom, probably he does not want Abby around the baby when it is revealed that Abby had sex with his mother's man, this would be a given. :)
I'm pretty sure Abby is also Will's "blood." And Sonny's for that matter.

I also don't think Will is under any illusion about his mother or EJ. I would actually find it refreshing if he just refused to take sides and declared all of them fucked up.
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Kaha
Jan 26 2014, 06:17 PM
I's natural for Will to be angry at Abby and to feel betrayed. When she decided to sleep with EJ, she didn't think about how that will affect her cousins. But I don't think he'll judge her to be unworthy of his daughter's godmother. He knew about the Austin thing and he didn't hate her for it. I think Will and Sonny will be more understanding and supportive of Abby than expected.
Carrie is his aunt, Sami is his mom a big difference :) I think that Will will not like to have Abby around his little girl, like I said blood is thicker than water.
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I dunno, wasn't the reason EJ went to the cabin, to shut Abby up as part of a murder cover-up involving Will, Will's boyfriend, Will's mother and grandmother, and Will's baby's mother? Of course Will can feel outrage or whatever....totally his prerogative. But, I dunno, Abby's transgression makes her no less moral or suitable to be around Ari than any of those in the baby's immediate circle.

I also don't see what she did as that big a deal I guess, lol, relatively speaking. I also don't put that much stock into the role of a godparent, and I say this as a godparent (but maybe that makes me an irresponsible godparent). Abby is not going to be contaminating Ari through osmosis or anything....if anything she might impart some of her more shrewish qualities, which I would want to discourage more so than whatever adulterous impulses she possesses, personally.

And Abby is Will's blood, no?

But yeah I don't care either way. I suspect Abby will be struggling with the moral fallout of her decision, as she has been already, so everyone's reaction to it in relation to her role as a godparent WILL probably come up. I just don't see anyone being able to stand on a platform of moral outrage for too long. No matter though.
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I think Will has every right to make judgements on the morality of who he choses as a godmother for his daughter. Will may not be able to choose who his parents are or his orientation but he has every right to not want Abby in his daughter's life.
Sure, he has the right to choose who is in his daughter's life. But if he makes that judgment against Abby on the grounds of her "morality" while not also kicking Sami, Kate, EJ, Lucas, Sonny, and himself out of her life, he's gonna look like a big old hypocrite.

Now, if he's angry because Sami is his mother and Abby's actions have hurt his family, that's different and not hypocritical, just human. I'm just not buying the idea that Abby is any more "immoral" than any of the rest of them.
Well, blood is thicker than water, so which side do you think Will pick? Obviously his mom, probably he does not want Abby around the baby when it is revealed that Abby had sex with his mother's man, this would be a given. :)
Will chose to support EJ over his own father
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Jan 26 2014, 06:19 PM
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Jan 26 2014, 05:54 PM
I think Will has every right to make judgements on the morality of who he choses as a godmother for his daughter. Will may not be able to choose who his parents are or his orientation but he has every right to not want Abby in his daughter's life.
Sure, he has the right to choose who is in his daughter's life. But if he makes that judgment against Abby on the grounds of her "morality" while not also kicking Sami, Kate, EJ, Lucas, Sonny, and himself out of her life, he's gonna look like a big old hypocrite.

Now, if he's angry because Sami is his mother and Abby's actions have hurt his family, that's different and not hypocritical, just human. I'm just not buying the idea that Abby is any more "immoral" than any of the rest of them.
Well, blood is thicker than water, so which side do you think Will pick? Obviously his mom, probably he does not want Abby around the baby when it is revealed that Abby had sex with his mother's man, this would be a given. :)
I'm pretty sure Abby is also Will's "blood." And Sonny's for that matter.

I also don't think Will is under any illusion about his mother or EJ. I would actually find it refreshing if he just refused to take sides and declared all of them fucked up.
Abby is a cousin, Sami is his mother so of course he will choose sides. :) Blood is closer, so to speak.
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