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Kassie DePaiva joins Days
Topic Started: Jan 24 2014, 12:33 PM (18,559 Views)
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ladyofthelake
Jan 25 2014, 07:48 PM
dylan76
Jan 25 2014, 11:26 AM
Charlotte also congratulates Kassie in another tweet, for those so eager to call her a jealous bitch. Maybe Kassie will be just holding the role until Charlotte becomes available. That is the ONLY way that I will accept Eve as some country bumpkin with a hillbilly twang.
And, pray tell, what is wrong with country bumpkins? Damnation.
:iagree: This country bumpkin takes offense... :toetap:
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I'm with the "give her a chance" folks. I loved Blair on OLTL (and if Kassie can take the role over from an actress who is of Asian descent and make it her own, then shoot!). "Common looking?".SERIOUSLY? I want her body instead of mine! Girl's got a damn good figure. COUNTRY BUMPKIN????? I know some pretty smart, sharp people from the country. Maybe that comment pisses me off since I AM a country bumpkin who actually does pretty well. I'll wager there are a lot of "country bumpkins" in Hollywood who are doing great, thank you very much. Rant over.
Maybe it is a miscast. Who knows? But I'm not going to make predictions just because she's not Charlotte Ross. Character was good, but for some reason, she rubbed me the wrong way, so it doesn't bother me to have a recast at all. Life goes on. If she can do it, then kudos. I just hope people aren't so adamant that it's not Charlotte Ross that they're going to close their eyes to any possible newness and good that KdP could possibly bring to the roll. People have listed various characters who play parent and child and the silly closeness of ages, so why is this different?
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angie37
Jan 25 2014, 07:58 PM
ladyofthelake
Jan 25 2014, 07:48 PM
dylan76
Jan 25 2014, 11:26 AM
Charlotte also congratulates Kassie in another tweet, for those so eager to call her a jealous bitch. Maybe Kassie will be just holding the role until Charlotte becomes available. That is the ONLY way that I will accept Eve as some country bumpkin with a hillbilly twang.
And, pray tell, what is wrong with country bumpkins? Damnation.
:iagree: This country bumpkin takes offense... :toetap:
Oh, yeah, JKJ could be considered a "hillbilly" since he grew up in the Ozarks, although the "town" he grew up in has more than 100,000 people...........I'm sorry. That comment just pissed me off.
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Jan 25 2014, 07:31 PM
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Jan 25 2014, 02:15 PM
What's funny to me is that you never hear fans saying how much they want John and Marlena broken up, or for Kristen to destroy them, yet that's what happens.

But fans have said over and over that they despise Daniel and Jennifer, wanting them with others, and you just know TPTB don't care.

Deaf ears to what fans want. They destroy popular couples who the audience wants together, and push couples the audience doesn't.
THIS!!!

Now I very much enjoy Marlena more snarky and combative. That part of her character died, due to bad writing, when she was with John. She did put Stefano into a semi coma that paralyzed him, but the fallout from that was neatly brushed aside. That was one of the things Marlena would have done years past, and now we have this character animate again without John. The problem is, we are not seeing her enough, and there are no signs yet that she and Drake will share any scenes when he does return. I am afraid if they do, the writers will ship them away to Europe after a one episode "Forgive Me Marlena" special, and we will hear about where they are via postcard.

If "Days" Does That and Brings On More Daniffer Angst For The Selfish Intentions Of TPTB (From Producers all the way down to writers), I May Be DONE.

I have watched this show without Hope and Marlena being on screen. I have even put up with years of them wasting Susan Hayes, until recently.

The point is, if they expect us to embrace Kassie as Eve, and make her the new Sami, while missing legacy characters that have a place on screen like Carrie, Belle, Stephanie, and I could go on, it would infuriate me.

Point: Martha Madison and Christie Clarke can act rings around Sweeney IF given material and airtime, so do not switch the entire feel and direction of the show. To keep the show together, and the Brady/Dimera controversy going on, they have to cast one of Marlena's kids, and keep Stefano's and "Days" Queen on canvas and vital.

IF they STUPIDLY re-align the show to make it centered around Jennifer and forget everyone else, what do the Dimeras do? What do the Brady's do? Also, I love the Horton's most of all, but does it feel right to have Jennifer the center? NO! Melissa is not what she once was and cannot carry a bucket of water, much less this show! The same goes for Eve and Kassie for different reasons and purposes. Eve becoming the new Sami would be jarring considering the fact that you have to change the entire substance of the show to make it work. We who are watching will not take kindly to Eve acting as if she's a Brady since her step-mom she HATES is Kim, and Eve always looked down on the Brady family. Then, you have the fact that she will be just Dannifer angst.

I need to hear that the show has other ideas about heroines joining that will rock the show from the true Brady/Black bloodline, and the only real options are Carrie or Belle. Otherwise the entire balance of this show will shift completely to Jennifer/Daniel and we will have no depth left. There will be no historic or intricate stories, only plot lines that play to the small part of the Horton family I cannot stand (take Abigail and JJ from the mix). I want Hortons! Where is Melissa, Sarah, David Banning, Scotty Banning, Jeremy Horton, Mike Horton, and even more grown up characters like Marie, Laura, and Bill. The Horton's need a chunk of story, but letting that chunk be Dannifer, with all of potential and those possibilities to make drama that could be bearable for viewers, it frustrates longtime fans that really know this show! The Horton's are so far above Daniel, and Jennifer no longer has the class of a Horton.

CENTER THE SHOW THE RIGHT WAY! "Days" will bleed viewers if they do what they may be in the works of trying, and that would suck to see, but after 35 years, if they leave legacy and years of planning in the dust, I will not watch it turn to crap again. This time, if they take Dannifer to launch a new "Days" without Marlena, most of the Brady's, and the Dimera's shut out, it will suck in the worst way.

TPTB: 95% OF THIS BOARD WANTS MORE VET INTERACTION FROM MARLENA, HOPE, CARRIE, BELLE, AND THE DIMERA"S.........AND 95% OF US LOATHE DANNIFER AND WILL NO MATTER WHAT YOU TRY!
I have a bad feeling that they brought Drake back to further destroy John and Marlena as a couple either through Marlena not forgiving him or John moving on with someone else, or both: And that will be a massive failure. As you said I've seen no signs that they are even sharing scenes together let alone working towards a recoscillation. New magazine articles don't give me much hope either. It went from Drake saying that J&M fans are getting what they want to "I don't know where this story is going" which is usually a bad sign and might mean a storyline change.

Do they really think fans will be happy with John and Marlena divorcing and John moving on? Or Marlena staying with Roman? As long as both have been on canvas for the last nearly 30 years they've never been truly accepted with others, even when they have been temporarily apart, and I doubt it's gonna start now. John's not like EJ who has been loved with other women while Sami has been on canvas (Nicole, Abby).

I have a bad feeling about this. A John and Marlena breakup won't be a popular or welcomed storyline. At least fans want Hope to move on, and EJ and Sami have as many haters as they so lovers, so EJabby having sex and getting a positive response was expected. J&M are not like that.

I've generally enjoyed this show for the last few years but cannot bear to see the last remaining supercouple fall. Like I said at least most fans want Hope moving on. That's how I can console myself to Bo and Hope ending their relationship.
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Just curious, but what do John and Marlena have to do with Eve? :shrug:
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I wonder if Charlotte Ross balked at the new economics of daytime. Perhaps she realized that the pay is nothing like it was back in her heyday and that they work a breakneck filming schedule with no re-takes. Sure I will miss seeing flashbacks of OriginalEve with Julie or Jennifer or her parents, but honestly, there are very few castmembers she overlaps with, so flashbacks aren't really all that helpful.

I hope that KDP glams it up a bit and brings a haughty, narcissistic, queen-bee type of Eve back to Salem. The actress, while obviously gorgeous, always strikes me as earthy, plain, and basic....... hmm, a perfect match to be Jordan's mother. Could Jordan be the love child of Eve Donovan and Frankie Brady?
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Jan 25 2014, 07:31 PM
TPTB: 95% OF THIS BOARD WANTS MORE VET INTERACTION FROM MARLENA, HOPE, CARRIE, BELLE, AND THE DIMERA"S.........AND 95% OF US LOATHE DANNIFER AND WILL NO MATTER WHAT YOU TRY!
I guess that puts me in the five percent, lol.
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Jan 25 2014, 01:55 PM
As for CR's tweet, I don't think she had any petty intentions. She congratulated Kassie in a tweet already[....]
Yes, she did -- but that tweet could easily be read as a veiled reminder to everyone that, "Kassie, honey, let's not forget that you only got this job because I wasn't available because I am in such high demand."

I'm not speculating about Charlotte Ross's intentions one way or another, because it's pointless to do so. But I don't think that it's a stretch to conclude that her intentions were less than innocent. Either way, her second tweet -- the one where she assures her fans that she will return to Days (presumably as Eve) eventually -- was, at the very least, unnecessary and poorly timed. Frankly, if I were one of her fans (instead of just being someone who couldn't care less either way), I'd find it rude of her to give me false hope when, in all likelihood, she knows that she'll never be returning to the role of Eve now that it has been recast.
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I have to wonder if the people kicking up all this fuss actually were watching the show in 1991, or just the best-of snipits from Youtube.

I took Ross' tweet as a polite way of telling pushy fans "Thanks, but go away." Not as a implication she intends to steal back a role from a soap legend in between primetime and movie gigs.

And is it confirmed that DePaiva will be using her natural accent?
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Will&Sonny
Jan 25 2014, 08:25 PM
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Jan 25 2014, 01:55 PM
As for CR's tweet, I don't think she had any petty intentions. She congratulated Kassie in a tweet already[....]
Yes, she did -- but that tweet could easily be read as a veiled reminder to everyone that, "Kassie, honey, let's not forget that you only got this job because I wasn't available because I am in such high demand."

I'm not speculating about Charlotte Ross's intentions one way or another, because it's pointless to do so. But I don't think that it's a stretch to conclude that her intentions were less than innocent. Either way, her second tweet -- the one where she assures her fans that she will return to Days (presumably as Eve) eventually -- was, at the very least, unnecessary and poorly timed. Frankly, if I were one of her fans (instead of just being someone who couldn't care less either way), I'd find it rude of her to give me false hope when, in all likelihood, she knows that she'll never be returning to the role of Eve now that it has been recast.
I don't think fans should be led on, either. And, truly, sometimes I think fans need to know that things aren't going to go their way, but actors can let them know WHERE they can be seen, thank fans for their support, and let them know that they are doing new activities. (Basically, these are my choices, and I hope you support me in them!). I hate it when actors play games.
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ladyofthelake
Jan 25 2014, 07:59 PM
I'm with the "give her a chance" folks. I loved Blair on OLTL (and if Kassie can take the role over from an actress who is of Asian descent and make it her own, then shoot!). "Common looking?".SERIOUSLY? I want her body instead of mine! Girl's got a damn good figure.
I'm choosing to pretend that the "common looking" comment was a hallucination that was caused by the same mysterious (and quite serious) condition that caused me to hallucinate that someone on this site had dared to call Kate Mansi "Plain Jane pretty at best" a week or two ago.
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I hate to use the ole go to "Bring Jack back" stuff, but Kassie and Matthew Ashford would be FIRE. And if the Eve recast is a little hard to take I think that could really help things out. I don't think TPTB plan on ever bringing Jack again this time, although he did get his bullshit death that left room for an opening. That cyborg Roman seeing the body doesn't mean anything.

But really Jack is a better version of Todd so I could really just see those two working out well if they wrote Jack as Jack instead of the comedy sideshow he became at times under certain writers. Now I can't help but hope for it. I'm not sure if this recast will work out, but I gotta give it a chance. I know if it doesn't work, it will not be Kassie's fault.
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I'm in the "I don't see the big deal with the recast" boat. Eve Donovan hasn't been on canvas for over 21 years and most current days fans would have no idea who she is or that she was played by Charlotte Ross, so KDP being cast in the role isn't exactly going to ruin the character or anything like that. The character is more or less a blank slate at this point. KDP is wonderful actress who can bring some actual talent (and possible some of her OLTL fans :P) over to Days. I look forward to seeing her on screen again.
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Jan 25 2014, 08:34 PM
I have to wonder if the people kicking up all this fuss actually were watching the show in 1991, or just the best-of snipits from Youtube.

I took Ross' tweet as a polite way of telling pushy fans "Thanks, but go away." Not as a implication she intends to steal back a role from a soap legend in between primetime and movie gigs.

And is it confirmed that DePaiva will be using her natural accent?
admittedly i was not watching, since i was 5, but since i'm looking at her actions now i don't see how that has anything to do with it. Intentional or not, I do think the effect of saying "don't worry I'll be back at Days again" is a bitchy move. And just for the record, I'm only commenting on these specific actions, not the woman herself. For all I know she could be the nicest person in the world and this was unintentional.

(And no, I don't care about KDP one way or the other b/c I've only seen her a handful of times).
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Jan 24 2014, 10:24 PM
Here's Eve's debut from July 16, 1987...start the video at the 2:38 mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELicnPgMcIk&feature=player_detailpage#t=158
Gotta love Alex.
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Jan 25 2014, 06:29 PM
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Jan 24 2014, 12:43 PM
Kassie a fabulous actress,but the tiny age difference between her and Charlie makes her as Eve not believable.
Maybe for some of the audience but this show paired Brady (born in 92) with Kristen.
If we think that way, EJ (born in 1997) has 2 children (born 2007 and 2009) ;), Sami has to be in jail for doing THAT.
BTW, even if Brady would be played by the 21 yo actor I wouldn't see a problem, even in real life there are pairs with 30-40 years age difference. I know this thread is not about that but sorry couldn't resist.

Speaking of KDP as Eve, I don't think age matters. She is not too old to play Eve as some are saying, but maybe Charles Shaughnessy is and looks too young, so let make-up department do their job LOL, in case they bring him back.

That said I'm still not so very sure I can buy KDP as Eve. I think I could see her as Kristen recast (not that I'd want a Kristen recast if there is even a small possibility that ED will come back). It's just different type or so, I guess. But let's wait and see.

BTW, I'm very impressed of how huge her OLTL fan base is and how supportive they are.
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Jan 26 2014, 05:02 AM
Rosebud
Jan 25 2014, 06:29 PM
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Jan 24 2014, 12:43 PM
Kassie a fabulous actress,but the tiny age difference between her and Charlie makes her as Eve not believable.
Maybe for some of the audience but this show paired Brady (born in 92) with Kristen.
If we think that way, EJ (born in 1997) has 2 children (6 (9?) and 5 yo) ;), Sami has to be in jail for doing THAT.
BTW, even if Brady would be played by the 21 yo actor I wouldn't see a problem, even in real life there are pairs with 30-40 years age difference. I know this thread is not about that but sorry couldn't resist.

Speaking of KDP as Eve, I don't think age matters. She is not too old to play Eve as some are saying, but maybe Charles Shaugnessy is and looks too young, so let make-up department do their job LOL, in case they bring him back.

That said I'm still not so very sure I can buy KDP as Eve. I think I could see her as Kristen recast (not that I'd want a Kristen recast if there is even a small possibility that ED will come back). It's just different type or so, I guess. But let's wait and see.

BTW, I'm very impressed of how huge her OLTL fan base is and how supportive they are.






I know time is bizarre in Salem, but for Eve to now be in her late-40s/early 50s, Shane would have to be 70 or older. Eve was younger than Charlotte Ross' actual age, and without SORASing, should just be 41 (Eve turned 18 in 1990).

Granted, the show already screwed up Shane's age when they made Eve Gabrielle's daughter. The original idea that she was Emma's daughter actually fit with Shane being in his early- to mid-30s. Emma had supposedly "died" two years before Shane arrived in Salem in 1984, but she could have gotten pregnant when she and Shane were in their late teens. It was established that Shane and Emma had grown up together and were expected to marry from a young age, so a teen pregnancy could be reconciled with that history. Shane not knowing about Eve could be explained by the fact that Emma was from a very "proper" British family with ties to the monarchy, so her family could have kept the pregnancy secret. But when the show changed Eve's mother and made her a product of a fling with Gabrielle after Emma died, that added another 10 or so years that had to have passed between Emma's "death" and Shane's arrival in Salem. That instantly aged him to around 40, even though Charles Shaughnessy was still in his early 30s. (Even if you ignore Shane saying Emma died two years before he came to Salem, Eve still couldn't have been conceived until Shane was in his mid-20s at the earliest, because he didn't join the ISA until after he graduated from Cambridge and Emma "died" while he was in the ISA.)

I don't know KDP or how much younger than her actual age she can play, but it just seems like a strange decision. When you add in the fact that Mary Beth Evans is the same age as KDP and Judi Evans is younger, and the show has shown no interest in writing for their veteran women in that age group, I don't understand why the show didn't recast Eve with an actress in her mid- to late-30s.
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Age is just a number.

Especially in soap operas.

And especially in Salem.
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Jan 26 2014, 05:02 AM
BTW, I'm very impressed of how huge her OLTL fan base is and how supportive they are.
I've been a fan of KDP since the late 90's. I was just a kid but I fell in love with Todd and Blair's storyline on OLTL and she was a constant favorite of mine even when the writing took a nose dive off and on because she always did her best. Up until a few years ago, I didn't even know how serious a fanbase T&B and KDP had but most of her fans have been with her for decades and they are very devoted. Since most of them, I'm assuming, aren't big followers of Days and thereby don't know who Eve is, they aren't going to be all that nitpicky about how she does as the character, Eve. It's sort of a positive and negative, I guess, depending on how you look at it. Anyway, I do believe that she will bring quite a few viewers to Days, if the reaction from past couple days on FB and Twitter are any indication.

I understand that many longtime fans of Days and Eve are upset with KDP taking over the role even though they may really appreciate her and there's absolutely no way that she will be pleasing everybody with her portrayal but I know that I'm very happy that she's going to be back on TV and playing a character that isn't completely impossible for her to portray well, imo. I can't imagine that she isn't researching the hell out of Eve and other characters on Days so she can really do her best. I hope she wins over some of the nay-sayers out there. :)
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