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Monday, January 27th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 27 2014, 05:41 AM (24,110 Views)
Amanda_gayle
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soapfan4life
Jan 28 2014, 01:14 AM
Loved BB today. He hit it out of the park today. Honestly I don't believe his act but I really wanted to.

A couple of things i thought of after today though. Is it possible that Stefano was actually the one that found him. Maybe the bird watcher works for him and he was following kate when he saw it happen. He saved Nick and now he is indebted to Stefano. Maybe Nick blackmails everyone for him.

Also I'm kind of hoping that Nick on goes after K/S/G I know it is a stupid plot point but as far as Nick should be concerned Ej, Will and Sonny don't even know that they tried to kill him.
If I remember, I think the stalker was spying on Wilson at the river when Will went for a walk and Sonny found him. They were talking about where nicks body was put in the river. I think it was CM's last day. I could swear someone was watching in the bushes. Nick May know that they know. As for EJ, whoever was watching him in the cabin with Abby (nick, Percy, ?)... If it was someone working with Nick, they could have overheard some of the conversation. maybe when EJ told his version of said story about breaking up a fight. Anyway, my point is, is that it's quite feasible Nick knows who knows... Bla bla. So he has dirt on everyone involved. Hiding evidence, the coverup, etc.

okay time for bed! Good night all!
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Jan 28 2014, 01:47 AM
This isn't the first time I've read this, but we haven't had an uptick in new members. We're actually a little below our average. Though, I guess we could reach or exceed our average by the end of the month.
I guess I just assumed because of the recent number of first posts.What they say is true when you assume you make an ass ...Sorry.
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crookedhalo


I guess I think it's Nick at the cabin, because it is the Horton Cabin. He goes there to recoop, and gets an eye full, then decides to take pics of it. Leverage!
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BeeBee
Jan 28 2014, 01:51 AM
lysie
Jan 28 2014, 01:47 AM
This isn't the first time I've read this, but we haven't had an uptick in new members. We're actually a little below our average. Though, I guess we could reach or exceed our average by the end of the month.
I guess I just assumed because of the recent number of first posts.What they say is true when you assume you make an ass ...Sorry.
It's possible that we have more that are opting to post, but I'm not sure about that. I tend to doubt it, though, because we often have people join, make a few posts, and then never come back, lol.
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crookedhalo
Jan 28 2014, 01:54 AM
I guess I think it's Nick at the cabin, because it is the Horton Cabin. He goes there to recoop, and gets an eye full, then decides to take pics of it. Leverage!
But there was someone watching Abby while she was talking to EJ about going to Smith island before she actually left Salem to get the ferry to take her to the island.Thats why I don't think Nick was the person taking the pictures unless there is a team and the person in Salem contacted the person on Smith island to tell them that Abby was taking the ferryAlthough .I don't think this is likely since EJ apparently has the only telephone that will get reception on Smith island.
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The Scorpion
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tomsawyer
Jan 27 2014, 11:11 PM
BeeBee
Jan 27 2014, 11:03 PM
tomsawyer
Jan 27 2014, 10:01 PM
I gotta say I that I don't at all get from EJ that he wants Abby as much as she wants him. I think he hopped on it the first time and found it "lovely," but everything the last two days is indicating he'd much rather not have to deal with her anymore. The way he's acting now, I think he'd be glad to be done with the Abby drama if she'd agree not to talk to Hope. And Abby clearly knows this, which is why she's making her threats.
Even if Abby told Hope the story EJ and the others concocted,what could Hope actually do.Nick has already done his hazy memory routine so it's not likely he could refute EJ and Gabi's version of events especially since he also admitted he tried to manipulate Gabi for his own benefit.Even EJ at his most idiotic could talk his way out of anything Hope and/Roman might confront them about.I think EJ is talking himself into believing he has no choice but to give in to Abby's "blackmail".
Well Abby did say that she thinks someone may still have tried to hurt him. Which I suppose is why the Salem 3 (6? 7 if you include Ari) wanted EJ to stop Abby from talking to Hope about her suspicions even after Nick showed up. The show is playing it that they still have reasons to fear Hope following up and given some of the mistakes they made, I think it makes some sense.

If I'm supposed to get from the scenes the last few days that EJ really wants Abby and is using the blackmail as an excuse, I'm gonna need JS to play his scenes differently than he has been.
Yes, I feel the same, it's just that, JS does not sell a EJ wanting Abby, and we've all seen how EJ act when he truly desires a woman, so either JS makes the wrong choice when he acts with Kate or the is not in the story that EJ wants Abby, I believe the latter because JS is a good actor and usually act flawlessly except when he does not like the storyn.lol
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S loves EJ


I did think EJ had this look on his face like he didnīt wanted to have sex with Abby again when she said she desperately wanted it to happen again, but I think maybe JS is confused how he if he is suppose to play the scenes as him just manipulating Abby to save Sami or as of EJ wanting her, since the writers seeems to be confused by that themself. I have hard to believe though that EJ would have sex with her again if he really didnīt want to, and I Think it will be clear on tuesdayīs show that EJ is very much into it. :sex4:
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S loves EJ
Jan 28 2014, 03:29 AM
I did think EJ had this look on his face like he didnīt wanted to have sex with Abby again when she said she desperately wanted it to happen again, but I think maybe JS is confused how he if he is suppose to play the scenes as him just manipulating Abby to save Sami or as of EJ wanting her, since the writers seeems to be confused by that themself. I have hard to believe though that EJ would have sex with her again if he really didnīt want to, and I Think it will be clear on tuesdayīs show that EJ is very much into it. :sex4:
Isn't there a spoiler about Ej telling Sami something has to change? I bet Sami is still not giving it up so when face to face with someone who is DTF, I'm sure he will pick sex as his go to option to deal w/ Abby or just have sex w/ her just because he can. I'm sure he'll be into it, sex is sex but as far as feelings I wouldn't be surprised if he's more resentful at first. I bet feelings start to come back into play later on.
Edited by Halloween Family, Jan 28 2014, 03:34 AM.
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S loves EJ


I think EJ is a bit attractive to Abby but he is still inlove with Sami and set on marrying her, and donīt want Abby to get in the way of that, but the attraction can develop into love later on. EJ will tell Sami that things needs to change and it will probably take an other week before Sami makes up her mind but then Ejami will most likely start sleeping together again and EJ will stop sleeping with Abby unless she continues to blackmail him, but I donīt want her to go to much fatal attraction on him. I can see that itīs good if Abby is a bit gray in order to have a future with EJ but I donīt want her to be a nutjob.
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Sweet and Salty
Jan 28 2014, 12:08 AM
Wow. Wow. Wow. Ab's IS going whacko! This is getting better and better!



Abby isnt going psycho, shes going after something she WANTS. Abby is getting it all out in the open and now its Ejs turn reciprocate. And by the looks of how he followed her to the storage closet he's all for.

This is all new and strange to Ej. Uncharted waters..He's never been pursued, he's was always the one chasing, not the one being chased, lol

I think he likes it!
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Ljay
Jan 28 2014, 04:52 AM
Sweet and Salty
Jan 28 2014, 12:08 AM
Wow. Wow. Wow. Ab's IS going whacko! This is getting better and better!



Abby isnt going psycho, shes going after something she WANTS. Abby is getting it all out in the open and now its Ejs turn reciprocate. And by the looks of how he followed her to the storage closet he's all for.

This is all new and strange to Ej. Uncharted waters..He's never been pursued, he's was always the one chasing, not the one being chased, lol

I think he likes it!
Personally I think Abby coming across pathetic and desperate, I mean come on she must blackmail the man for more sex :) I am not so sure that EJ like it, he seems to like the challenge of women who doesn't throw themselves at his feet, so chase are more in his nature.


I came to think of one thing, now that Days seems to go full force with the sex scenes, I mean we have griefsex, manupliation sex, maybe EJ have pity sex with Abby next time :) And when Sami finds out what he's done, she may have revenge sex with ... well best candidate would actually be Chad if he comes back.lol
Edited by The Scorpion, Jan 28 2014, 05:43 AM.
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Kinay


I don't believe for one minute that EJ is having sex with Abby to shut her up or to save Sami. He's doing it because he wants to. He totally has the hots for Abby and loves the game she's playing. No matter what he's still cheating and typical cheater will use any excuse he can.
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Kinay
Jan 28 2014, 08:04 AM
I don't believe for one minute that EJ is having sex with Abby to shut her up or to save Sami. He's doing it because he wants to. He totally has the hots for Abby and loves the game she's playing. No matter what he's still cheating and typical cheater will use any excuse he can.
I agree. Moreover, there's not much of a reason to keep her quiet anymore anyway. Abigail thinks Nick hurt Gabi, which was true, she's just wrong about EJ intervening but honestly anything that would muddy the truth at this point probably works in the coven's favor. Hope doesn't exactly think Nick is an innocent babe at this point anyway.

I also think Abigail isn't psycho, she's just a young, immature woman who has had her first taste of really great sex, and she's willing to compromise herself to go after more. EJ finds that attractive, at least that's what I'm seeing.
Edited by Honeybees, Jan 28 2014, 11:07 AM.
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Honeybees
Jan 28 2014, 08:14 AM
Kinay
Jan 28 2014, 08:04 AM
I don't believe for one minute that EJ is having sex with Abby to shut her up or to save Sami. He's doing it because he wants to. He totally has the hots for Abby and loves the game she's playing. No matter what he's still cheating and typical cheater will use any excuse he can.
I agree. Moreover, there's not much of a reason to keep her quiet anymore anyway. Abigail think Nick hurt Gabi, which was true, she's just wrong about EJ intervening but honestly anything that would muddy the truth at this point probably works in the coven's favor. Hope doesn't exactly think Nick is an innocent babe at this point anyway.

I also think Abigail isn't psycho, she's just a young, immature woman who has had her first taste of really great sex, and she's willing to compromise herself to go after more. EJ finds that attractive, at least that's what I'm seeing.
Yeah, I think that is the reason they are using (the characters/the show) but they haven't shown that is the ONLY reason. He pretty much followed Abby yesterday into a supply closet for no reason. Sure Abby sort of blackmailed him with 'if you want to me continue to keep quiet...you know what to do' but realistically if Ej wanted to stop this he can by going to Hope himself and creating a lie of his own to Hope. It's not that far fetched, instead, he continues to use the 'I need to shut her up' excuse to continue to see her in places that would lead to some intimacy between them. Considering the stern warning didn't come yesterday as spoiled, I'm wondering if it'll play out today....which in theory does absolutely nothing if what's spoiled to happen next week actually happens.
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Tripp
Jan 28 2014, 12:02 AM
Matt
Jan 27 2014, 10:46 PM
I don't remember who brought it up earlier in this thread, but I'd originally meant to mention it when I saw it and then forgot it, but I freaking LOVED how hesitant Kate & Sami were to actually leave one another at the end of the reception. They both acted like "Um... well... Nick's alive so we really don't have any reason to be friendly with one another anymore and... um... I refuse to admit that I've actually grown to like you so... um...." It was like one of those awkward "morning after" moments when you've hooked up the wrong person and now don't quite know what to do. I thought BOTH AS & LK did some REALLY nice work in playing the subtext with that scene.
I noticed that. And I thought it nice. I like enemies on the show but Kate and Sami feud has gone on far enough. With AS leaving, they may as well make them actual friends.


I think the frenemies relationship Kate and Sami have going on now is way more entertaining than any of Sami's romantic relationships in the last few years. I have actually enjoyed Sami the last couple of months.
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MissLola
Jan 28 2014, 08:45 AM
Tripp
Jan 28 2014, 12:02 AM
Matt
Jan 27 2014, 10:46 PM
I don't remember who brought it up earlier in this thread, but I'd originally meant to mention it when I saw it and then forgot it, but I freaking LOVED how hesitant Kate & Sami were to actually leave one another at the end of the reception. They both acted like "Um... well... Nick's alive so we really don't have any reason to be friendly with one another anymore and... um... I refuse to admit that I've actually grown to like you so... um...." It was like one of those awkward "morning after" moments when you've hooked up the wrong person and now don't quite know what to do. I thought BOTH AS & LK did some REALLY nice work in playing the subtext with that scene.
I noticed that. And I thought it nice. I like enemies on the show but Kate and Sami feud has gone on far enough. With AS leaving, they may as well make them actual friends.


I think the frenemies relationship Kate and Sami have going on now is way more entertaining than any of Sami's romantic relationships in the last few years. I have actually enjoyed Sami the last couple of months.
I really have enjoyed them together as well. I don't think either of them have any friends! It was fun to see theme scheme together! I also think Kate has a feeling about EJ's indiscretions of late... She asked Sami about EJ's whereabouts before she left Dimansion and then when Sami responded with "maybe he had work or something " , Kate was like "huh" and then went to leave saying yeah I have work too. I get the feeling Kate may feel for Sami a little bit because she was married to a Dimera as and knows what it's like being married to one. Anyway, it may have been nothing but I thought it was interesting that she was interested in where he was and why it was taking so long.
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

The Scorpion
Jan 28 2014, 03:11 AM
tomsawyer
Jan 27 2014, 11:11 PM
BeeBee
Jan 27 2014, 11:03 PM
tomsawyer
Jan 27 2014, 10:01 PM
I gotta say I that I don't at all get from EJ that he wants Abby as much as she wants him. I think he hopped on it the first time and found it "lovely," but everything the last two days is indicating he'd much rather not have to deal with her anymore. The way he's acting now, I think he'd be glad to be done with the Abby drama if she'd agree not to talk to Hope. And Abby clearly knows this, which is why she's making her threats.
Even if Abby told Hope the story EJ and the others concocted,what could Hope actually do.Nick has already done his hazy memory routine so it's not likely he could refute EJ and Gabi's version of events especially since he also admitted he tried to manipulate Gabi for his own benefit.Even EJ at his most idiotic could talk his way out of anything Hope and/Roman might confront them about.I think EJ is talking himself into believing he has no choice but to give in to Abby's "blackmail".
Well Abby did say that she thinks someone may still have tried to hurt him. Which I suppose is why the Salem 3 (6? 7 if you include Ari) wanted EJ to stop Abby from talking to Hope about her suspicions even after Nick showed up. The show is playing it that they still have reasons to fear Hope following up and given some of the mistakes they made, I think it makes some sense.

If I'm supposed to get from the scenes the last few days that EJ really wants Abby and is using the blackmail as an excuse, I'm gonna need JS to play his scenes differently than he has been.
Yes, I feel the same, it's just that, JS does not sell a EJ wanting Abby, and we've all seen how EJ act when he truly desires a woman, so either JS makes the wrong choice when he acts with Kate or the is not in the story that EJ wants Abby, I believe the latter because JS is a good actor and usually act flawlessly except when he does not like the storyn.lol
IDK, I think he sold it in the beginning pretty well....I even think he sold it the second time they met at the cabin....he wanted her and SHE stopped it. I just think they are trying to play up the fact that he's becoming more and more concerned about what he's doing and if Sami will find out. SO obviously he's weary of that...but he doesn't even care to meet her in the same building as Sami is in....clearly if he really wanted to avoid her he'd avoid her...and he doesn't. An eye roll here and there tells me nothing...especially when he continues to flashback to the sex.
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I am very late to the party, but what a wonderful episode. Horton focused, hilarious Kate and Sami, EJ and Abby. The show is so good right now.
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Maybe it's so that the scenes and dialogues play out in a certain way, so that you can see it in different ways? I need to at least see a EJ wanting Abby to buy that he has the hots for her, and maybe it comes, who knows? it seems like there's more sex scenes on the way but the question is? is the basis of that, Abby blackmail him or is it EJ desire her? Either way, more wicked Abby, the better it is for EJ to become interested :) lol
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Jan 28 2014, 12:07 AM
As for Abby being referred to "crazy", I don't see that one bit. She admits her feelings to EJ and how she still wants him. But that's pretty much it. She's not "stormed the castle" and forced herself on him. She left him in the park and....went back to work. It was EJ who followed her out to Smith Island initially. It was EJ who held her very tightly at the Dimansion without letting her go. It was EJ who insisted on talking to her at the church and practically dared her to kiss him (which she resisted). Then it was EJ who followed her to the park and finally the hospital. You can't accuse EJ of "manipulating" Abby to protect Sami and the Coven (when she kisses him and he doesn't stop her) then turn around when he follows her all over Salem, she now can't be the stalker.
ICAM with all you said. Ej is loving this young, beautiful woman wanting him and willingly having sex with him while his fiance is flitting around with the coven and refusing him sex.
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