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Jan 29 2014, 09:43 PM
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- Jan 29 2014, 08:03 PM
I don't know. This is Days. They like to recycle the same conversations. I have a feeling that Abby saying "What just happened" means she's going to begin to second guess her decision not to go to Hope after all and have the umpteenth conversation with EJ about it.
And this time, I'm fine with the rinse, cycle, repeat. I hope today was the end of discussion about going to Hope. :D It's getting sort of ridiculous.
I think both Abby and EJ are slowly developing greater feelings for one another, but that's just my take. We'll have to see how it all plays out.
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Jan 29 2014, 09:49 PM
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- Jan 29 2014, 07:07 PM
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Sure and I don't think I said differently. This was brought up earlier in the thread and I said it was EJ trying to keep Abigail in his good graces. I just disagreed Abigail needing placating necessarily, because she sounded totally sincere to me on the phone (which I was like bah, I wish she hadn't sounded so earnest). And so it's because she was being so earnest that I think EJ's line threw her for a loop....like it didn't occur to her at the moment why he would need to say that as she wasn't putting up a fight about anything (which again, bah, I like it when she does). Abby has been able to call EJ out on his BS before, so she can sniff out a lie as we've seen. But I just think she was being so earnest that the need for EJ to play her escaped her for the moment. That plus the fact she's got it bad and might cling to his every word regardless, infer meaning where there is none. Maybe she'll suss it out soon enough (which might lead to another "power play" on her part). I am not sure if any of that made sense. I am just suggesting another, not entirely different interpretation for Abigail's reaction today and the need for EJ's line which provoked it.
Maybe, but I usually find that with Days the obvious explanation is the most likely. This is the second anvil they've dropped this week of Abby seeing the affair with EJ as something more than he sees it. I don't think she'll go full on Fatal Attraction, but I also think she won't go away as easily as EJ would like once he decides to move forward with Sami.
Yeah I didn't make myself clear.....I didn't mean to suggest I thought Abby didn't see the affair with EJ as more than what/how he sees it. Of course she does (which I don't have a problem or fault her for). I just disagreed she needed much more handling after that phone call with EJ in which she sounded painfully earnest. The reason EJ made the "nice to hear from you" comment was both to continue to play smooth, but also from a story pov to serve as the tiniest nugget of fodder to give her attraction extra life (not that she'd need more, what with all the flashbacks Days likes to throw at its characters). If EJ's intent was to make Abby go away, as it were, by making her believe he genuinely likes her and hasn't been manipulating her, it backfired (although, Abby seems to realize this anyway but doesn't care to an extent). So more than just the call made her giddy, it's that from it she wanted to infer extra meaning (these aren't opposing reactions...she was giddy because she found something hopeful, perhaps, in a non-sentiment). I am just suggesting she was thrown for a loop because she wasn't really fishing for more from EJ at the moment. She might take his line as a sign he likes her. Or she might correctly conclude EJ was just making an extra play on her, which in turn might spur her to make an extra play on him. So where back to the maybe-I-will-tell-Hope thing. I wouldn't mind this being the case! Honestly, I have a hard time analyzing ANY of the characters' actions because it's such a plot-driven story. Obviously they wanted to shake up Ejami, give EJ a secret hanging over his head for the wedding and inject some shock factor for ratings, hence Ejabby is born! They set up other plot points to make it happen (EJ keeping Kristen's secret and Abby getting suspicious about Nick), and now everything will be just a bunch of plot points until it's over in May. The characters and their motivations are so secondary to the plot that I don't even bother thinking about them too much. If I did, the story would just be that much worse to me. At it is, the story is dumb, but the fallout could, maybe, hopefully be entertaining. That's pretty much the best I can hope for. But yeah, other than that, I'm just assuming the characters will act in whatever way they need them to act during that particular episode. Any consistencies with how they acted in the previous few episodes (or the previous few months for that matter) is entirely coincidental, LOL.
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Jan 29 2014, 09:50 PM
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Not saying EJ doesn't have feelings for her but I didn't see any in today's show for her.
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Jan 29 2014, 09:57 PM
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Good show today ...
Aiden and Hope - I loved the wink that Hope gave him after he was such an ass. That was cute. I see lots of play dates in their future for their kids to become friends and adults ,too. :whistling:
Nick - I love how he is making his rounds. I think its funny that the murder coven are banding together not to give into his demands. lol I don't think that will last long. :blulaugh: :teehee: Brady telling Maggie to butt out was priceless! Love Drunk Brady! :chee:
T is so going to be an obstacle for Nick. I hope Nick doesn't hurt him. :whack:
Ejabby convo - surprised there was a scene for them and I liked it. I liked how she apologized for threatening him and his response was something like "how sweet". lol I think the writers definitely want to keep things vague so that it can be interpreted however we want it to be. This was no exception. I prefer to believe that he was somewhat sincere in the fact that she called. They left things unfinished - sexually and otherwise. She basically rushed out. Me thinks EJ was happy to hear that all was well, and that she seemed in control (and not a blubbering mess). I don't think he has deep feelings, but I think he likes her a little bit. Looking forward to next week scenes!! :$ :popcorn:
I wish they would change Teresa's hair. I don't like how they style it...maybe it would help me like her more. :shrug:
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Jan 29 2014, 09:58 PM
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Maybe, but I usually find that with Days the obvious explanation is the most likely. This is the second anvil they've dropped this week of Abby seeing the affair with EJ as something more than he sees it. I don't think she'll go full on Fatal Attraction, but I also think she won't go away as easily as EJ would like once he decides to move forward with Sami.
Yeah I didn't make myself clear.....I didn't mean to suggest I thought Abby didn't see the affair with EJ as more than what/how he sees it. Of course she does (which I don't have a problem or fault her for). I just disagreed she needed much more handling after that phone call with EJ in which she sounded painfully earnest. The reason EJ made the "nice to hear from you" comment was both to continue to play smooth, but also from a story pov to serve as the tiniest nugget of fodder to give her attraction extra life (not that she'd need more, what with all the flashbacks Days likes to throw at its characters). If EJ's intent was to make Abby go away, as it were, by making her believe he genuinely likes her and hasn't been manipulating her, it backfired (although, Abby seems to realize this anyway but doesn't care to an extent). So more than just the call made her giddy, it's that from it she wanted to infer extra meaning (these aren't opposing reactions...she was giddy because she found something hopeful, perhaps, in a non-sentiment). I am just suggesting she was thrown for a loop because she wasn't really fishing for more from EJ at the moment. She might take his line as a sign he likes her. Or she might correctly conclude EJ was just making an extra play on her, which in turn might spur her to make an extra play on him. So where back to the maybe-I-will-tell-Hope thing. I wouldn't mind this being the case!
Honestly, I have a hard time analyzing ANY of the characters' actions because it's such a plot-driven story. Obviously they wanted to shake up Ejami, give EJ a secret hanging over his head for the wedding and inject some shock factor for ratings, hence Ejabby is born! They set up other plot points to make it happen (EJ keeping Kristen's secret and Abby getting suspicious about Nick), and now everything will be just a bunch of plot points until it's over in May. The characters and their motivations are so secondary to the plot that I don't even bother thinking about them too much. If I did, the story would just be that much worse to me. At it is, the story is dumb, but the fallout could, maybe, hopefully be entertaining. That's pretty much the best I can hope for. But yeah, other than that, I'm just assuming the characters will act in whatever way they need them to act during that particular episode. Any consistencies with how they acted in the previous few episodes (or the previous few months for that matter) is entirely coincidental, LOL. I see what you're saying about everything being about plot points but honestly if TPTB wanted to "shake up Ejami", a cheating storyline--especially with EJ, should've been the last way to go as a plot point if indeed Ejami is "endgame". I can't recall one single relationship on this show that has survived cheating. Couples can survived Murder attempts, rapes, and all kinds of lying but cheating--especially more than a ONS which can be more easily forgiven-- is a kiss of death in soaps as a romantic couple.
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Jan 29 2014, 10:07 PM
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Yeah I didn't make myself clear.....I didn't mean to suggest I thought Abby didn't see the affair with EJ as more than what/how he sees it. Of course she does (which I don't have a problem or fault her for). I just disagreed she needed much more handling after that phone call with EJ in which she sounded painfully earnest. The reason EJ made the "nice to hear from you" comment was both to continue to play smooth, but also from a story pov to serve as the tiniest nugget of fodder to give her attraction extra life (not that she'd need more, what with all the flashbacks Days likes to throw at its characters). If EJ's intent was to make Abby go away, as it were, by making her believe he genuinely likes her and hasn't been manipulating her, it backfired (although, Abby seems to realize this anyway but doesn't care to an extent). So more than just the call made her giddy, it's that from it she wanted to infer extra meaning (these aren't opposing reactions...she was giddy because she found something hopeful, perhaps, in a non-sentiment). I am just suggesting she was thrown for a loop because she wasn't really fishing for more from EJ at the moment. She might take his line as a sign he likes her. Or she might correctly conclude EJ was just making an extra play on her, which in turn might spur her to make an extra play on him. So where back to the maybe-I-will-tell-Hope thing. I wouldn't mind this being the case!
Honestly, I have a hard time analyzing ANY of the characters' actions because it's such a plot-driven story. Obviously they wanted to shake up Ejami, give EJ a secret hanging over his head for the wedding and inject some shock factor for ratings, hence Ejabby is born! They set up other plot points to make it happen (EJ keeping Kristen's secret and Abby getting suspicious about Nick), and now everything will be just a bunch of plot points until it's over in May. The characters and their motivations are so secondary to the plot that I don't even bother thinking about them too much. If I did, the story would just be that much worse to me. At it is, the story is dumb, but the fallout could, maybe, hopefully be entertaining. That's pretty much the best I can hope for. But yeah, other than that, I'm just assuming the characters will act in whatever way they need them to act during that particular episode. Any consistencies with how they acted in the previous few episodes (or the previous few months for that matter) is entirely coincidental, LOL.
I see what you're saying about everything being about plot points but honestly if TPTB wanted to "shake up Ejami", a cheating storyline--especially with EJ, should've been the last way to go as a plot point if indeed Ejami is "endgame". I can't recall one single relationship on this show that has survived cheating. Couples can survived Murder attempts, rapes, and all kinds of lying but cheating--especially more than a ONS which can be more easily forgiven-- is a kiss of death in soaps as a romantic couple. I don't think Ejami is going to survive this. Sorry, that's what I meant by shaking them up. TPTB like EJ and Sami to change relationships like other people change shoes. Ejami will likely have been together for 15 months when it's all said and done (and 10 of them were actually happy). That's a pretty good run, especially for an EJ relationship. Amazingly enough, it's the first time in 7.5 years that they've had him happy in a relationship where there wasn't some secret that would blow it up. Alas, the writers remembered they don't like EJ like that, so there you go.
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Jan 29 2014, 10:30 PM
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- Jan 29 2014, 01:58 PM
I love Chandler, but Guy is so much better in scenes with Nick Fallon.
I agree. Guy's Will is more brooding and serious. I like it.
One thing that has carried over in both actors, and was on display today, is Will's protectiveness of Gabi. I think Will truly loves Gabi and always has, just not in a romantic/sexual way and even when I hated Gabi I liked that his devotion to her remained. I did enjoy the way Will went out to confront Nick, rather than running into him by accident or avoiding him as he once would have.
Yes I agree. Will is devoted to Gabi and has always cared about her. Even when she and Nick were trying to keep him out of the picture regarding the baby (when she had the sonogram appt but did not tell Will, etc) Will still felt loyalty to her (but not Nick). He is a loyal friend to have (to T, and Sonny, and Gabi and even Chad). Gabi never tried to keep Will out of Arianna's life.She specifically told him he would always be a part of his daughter's life.Gabi agreed to let Nick say that he was the father because she did not want to interfere in Will's relationship with Sonny.Even When Nick tried to blackmail Will into giving up his rights,Gabi told Will he would always be a part of his daughter's lifJust because Gabi did not get in Nick's face and start screaming at him about his plan to get Will to give up his parental right does not mean she was trying to keep him out of the picture.That is why Will's relationship with Gabi has not changed.Also Gabi did not intentionally hurt Melanie.She hired Andrew to pretend to stalk her.When she found out about the kidnapping and said she was going to the police,Andrew blackmailed her to keep her from reporting that he kidnapped Melanie. Gabi also went into the tunnel and helped Melanie to escape.Gabi is not a bad person,she does not follow her own instincts,she always allows someone with worse judgement to persuade her to go against her instinct to do the right thing.
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Jan 29 2014, 10:53 PM
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One thing that has carried over in both actors, and was on display today, is Will's protectiveness of Gabi. I think Will truly loves Gabi and always has, just not in a romantic/sexual way and even when I hated Gabi I liked that his devotion to her remained. I did enjoy the way Will went out to confront Nick, rather than running into him by accident or avoiding him as he once would have.
Yes I agree. Will is devoted to Gabi and has always cared about her. Even when she and Nick were trying to keep him out of the picture regarding the baby (when she had the sonogram appt but did not tell Will, etc) Will still felt loyalty to her (but not Nick). He is a loyal friend to have (to T, and Sonny, and Gabi and even Chad).
Gabi never tried to keep Will out of Arianna's life.She specifically told him he would always be a part of his daughter's life.Gabi agreed to let Nick say that he was the father because she did not want to interfere in Will's relationship with Sonny.Even When Nick tried to blackmail Will into giving up his rights,Gabi told Will he would always be a part of his daughter's lifJust because Gabi did not get in Nick's face and start screaming at him about his plan to get Will to give up his parental right does not mean she was trying to keep him out of the picture.That is why Will's relationship with Gabi has not changed.Also Gabi did not intentionally hurt Melanie.She hired Andrew to pretend to stalk her.When she found out about the kidnapping and said she was going to the police,Andrew blackmailed her to keep her from reporting that he kidnapped Melanie. Gabi also went into the tunnel and helped Melanie to escape.Gabi is not a bad person,she does not follow her own instincts,she always allows someone with worse judgement to persuade her to go against her instinct to do the right thing. Oh, come on BeeBee! Let's not whitewash Gabi's complicity in Will's blackmail and keeping him away from his daughter. She knew from the beginning that Nick blackmailed Will and was holding something over his head but said nothing as long as she got what she wanted. She always deferred to Nick when it came to Will having access to his baby. Gabi didn't act like a friend to Will in her Gack period. I seem to remember a scene when Sonny and Sami were trying to get Will's confession and Will was tasked to distract Gabi, he gave her a gift and Gabi said to him: I thought you wanted to pressure me to have access to the baby? WTF! Why would she have any issue with the baby's father having access to her daughter? She said one thing to Will but acted in a different way when he was not there. She told her brother and everyone else that Will wanted the abortion, when he was supportive to her from the start. She used his love for Sonny to put doubts into his head and manipulate him. She was fine whith her husband's bigotry towards her best friend. She was really a lousy friend that time. The only thing that makes me forgive her is that she was being controlled and manipulated by Nick.
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Jan 29 2014, 11:51 PM
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Honestly, I have a hard time analyzing ANY of the characters' actions because it's such a plot-driven story. Obviously they wanted to shake up Ejami, give EJ a secret hanging over his head for the wedding and inject some shock factor for ratings, hence Ejabby is born! They set up other plot points to make it happen (EJ keeping Kristen's secret and Abby getting suspicious about Nick), and now everything will be just a bunch of plot points until it's over in May. The characters and their motivations are so secondary to the plot that I don't even bother thinking about them too much. If I did, the story would just be that much worse to me. At it is, the story is dumb, but the fallout could, maybe, hopefully be entertaining. That's pretty much the best I can hope for. But yeah, other than that, I'm just assuming the characters will act in whatever way they need them to act during that particular episode. Any consistencies with how they acted in the previous few episodes (or the previous few months for that matter) is entirely coincidental, LOL.
I see what you're saying about everything being about plot points but honestly if TPTB wanted to "shake up Ejami", a cheating storyline--especially with EJ, should've been the last way to go as a plot point if indeed Ejami is "endgame". I can't recall one single relationship on this show that has survived cheating. Couples can survived Murder attempts, rapes, and all kinds of lying but cheating--especially more than a ONS which can be more easily forgiven-- is a kiss of death in soaps as a romantic couple.
I don't think Ejami is going to survive this. Sorry, that's what I meant by shaking them up. TPTB like EJ and Sami to change relationships like other people change shoes. Ejami will likely have been together for 15 months when it's all said and done (and 10 of them were actually happy). That's a pretty good run, especially for an EJ relationship. Amazingly enough, it's the first time in 7.5 years that they've had him happy in a relationship where there wasn't some secret that would blow it up. Alas, the writers remembered they don't like EJ like that, so there you go. See, I would argue that they have been happy in those 15 months. They have had happy times/moments. But when you look at the state of their relationship overall, almost every other week there was arguments/distrust/screaming at each other over something. I know Ejami prides itself on their volatile relationship, but that gets old really quick when you have to live with it on a day by day basis.
But that said, I do hate to admit it but Ejami could eventually recover from this. It wouldn't (or shouldn't) be soon. It all depends on how they write off AS. Personally I still think it really coincidental that AS chooses to leave right when all of her revolving love interests have someone new in their life. I know this was all recorded before November when AS made it "official" to Corday, but I bet anything she gave him a heads up beforehand and they decided to try Sheryl/Lucas (which is going really slow) and Ej/Abby (which obviously is going super fast).
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Jan 29 2014, 11:58 PM
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I love Sami's new haircolor because it's darker, but not brown. It's still blonde, but not piss yellow like before
What color would you call it?!
I think it is like a dark or honey blonde. If I may give my two cents! :) Thanks! I was thinking "honey blonde" myself! Very pretty!
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Jan 30 2014, 12:03 AM
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I see what you're saying about everything being about plot points but honestly if TPTB wanted to "shake up Ejami", a cheating storyline--especially with EJ, should've been the last way to go as a plot point if indeed Ejami is "endgame". I can't recall one single relationship on this show that has survived cheating. Couples can survived Murder attempts, rapes, and all kinds of lying but cheating--especially more than a ONS which can be more easily forgiven-- is a kiss of death in soaps as a romantic couple.
I don't think Ejami is going to survive this. Sorry, that's what I meant by shaking them up. TPTB like EJ and Sami to change relationships like other people change shoes. Ejami will likely have been together for 15 months when it's all said and done (and 10 of them were actually happy). That's a pretty good run, especially for an EJ relationship. Amazingly enough, it's the first time in 7.5 years that they've had him happy in a relationship where there wasn't some secret that would blow it up. Alas, the writers remembered they don't like EJ like that, so there you go.
See, I would argue that they have been happy in those 15 months. They have had happy times/moments. But when you look at the state of their relationship overall, almost every other week there was arguments/distrust/screaming at each other over something. I know Ejami prides itself on their volatile relationship, but that gets old really quick when you have to live with it on a day by day basis. But that said, I do hate to admit it but Ejami could eventually recover from this. It wouldn't (or shouldn't) be soon. It all depends on how they write off AS. Personally I still think it really coincidental that AS chooses to leave right when all of her revolving love interests have someone new in their life. I know this was all recorded before November when AS made it "official" to Corday, but I bet anything she gave him a heads up beforehand and they decided to try Sheryl/Lucas (which is going really slow) and Ej/Abby (which obviously is going super fast). Yeah, I know some folks think she may have told them earlier, but I really have no reason not to believe that AS told them in November just like she said. She already admitted she's been keeping the secret for two months and I think she would've just admitted if she'd been keeping the secret for longer. There's really no reason to lie. So I really don't think the current stuff has anything to do with her departure. It's just part of the typical couple merry go round.
As to Ejami, I'm sure if AS was staying, they would've gotten back together eventually. Just like they probably would have revisited Safe and Lumi too. That's just how the show goes nowadays. I doubt Ejami gets back together before Sami's exit though. There's just not enough time. If I had to bet, I'd say Lucas will be the one crying over Sami's dead body.
And as to whether they were happy over the 10 months I mentioned, I'd say they were. Sure they had some fights, but those happened only every month or so and usually ended in sex. I'd say the were very much written as loving and supporting each other from end of January until November.
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So NO ONE notices acne scars on Brady/EM?!
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So NO ONE notices acne scars on Brady/EM?! Like one maybe but I thought it was a chicken pox scar.
Sometimes I really hate HD because the pimples and stray hairs really jump out at me.
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Yes I agree. Will is devoted to Gabi and has always cared about her. Even when she and Nick were trying to keep him out of the picture regarding the baby (when she had the sonogram appt but did not tell Will, etc) Will still felt loyalty to her (but not Nick). He is a loyal friend to have (to T, and Sonny, and Gabi and even Chad).
Gabi never tried to keep Will out of Arianna's life.She specifically told him he would always be a part of his daughter's life.Gabi agreed to let Nick say that he was the father because she did not want to interfere in Will's relationship with Sonny.Even When Nick tried to blackmail Will into giving up his rights,Gabi told Will he would always be a part of his daughter's lifJust because Gabi did not get in Nick's face and start screaming at him about his plan to get Will to give up his parental right does not mean she was trying to keep him out of the picture.That is why Will's relationship with Gabi has not changed.Also Gabi did not intentionally hurt Melanie.She hired Andrew to pretend to stalk her.When she found out about the kidnapping and said she was going to the police,Andrew blackmailed her to keep her from reporting that he kidnapped Melanie. Gabi also went into the tunnel and helped Melanie to escape.Gabi is not a bad person,she does not follow her own instincts,she always allows someone with worse judgement to persuade her to go against her instinct to do the right thing.
Oh, come on BeeBee! Let's not whitewash Gabi's complicity in Will's blackmail and keeping him away from his daughter. She knew from the beginning that Nick blackmailed Will and was holding something over his head but said nothing as long as she got what she wanted. She always deferred to Nick when it came to Will having access to his baby. Gabi didn't act like a friend to Will in her Gack period. I seem to remember a scene when Sonny and Sami were trying to get Will's confession and Will was tasked to distract Gabi, he gave her a gift and Gabi said to him: I thought you wanted to pressure me to have access to the baby? WTF! Why would she have any issue with the baby's father having access to her daughter? She said one thing to Will but acted in a different way when he was not there. She told her brother and everyone else that Will wanted the abortion, when he was supportive to her from the start. She used his love for Sonny to put doubts into his head and manipulate him. She was fine whith her husband's bigotry towards her best friend. She was really a lousy friend that time. The only thing that makes me forgive her is that she was being controlled and manipulated by Nick. I am not whitewashing,I am stating what I saw play out on screen.It's a matter of interpreting what was seen on screen.I agree with your assessment of Nick because of what I saw and heard Nick do and say.Based on what I saw on screen,Gabi had every reason to believe Will wanted the abortion.He did not attempt to disuade her from having the abortion,he borrowed money to pay for the abortion and went to the clinic with her for the abortion.Will did not once prior to Gabi entering the exam room say anything to her about not having the abortion,he only attempted to stop her after she entered the room but the receptionist/nurse would not allow him access to her.If Gabi had not changed her mind about having the abortion,there would be no little Ari.Gabi did not know Will did not want her to have the abortion prior to making her own decision on the issue but she did accept it when he later told her about it.Gabi went behind Nick's back and told Will he would always be part of his daughter's life.Gabi could have married Nick before the baby was born then refused to allow a paternity test and Will,Sami,and the others would have had a difficult time getting a court order for that test but she did not do that.Gabi is the one who told the hospital staff that the baby's name was Horton.There are not many women who will chose their friemds over their spouse.I respect that Gabi was trying to talk Nick down and support Will's rights.You give your interpretation of what you saw on screen and I gave mine.If you can provide a clip showing Gabi actually stating that she agreed with Nick's bigotry toward Will and/or Sonny I can be persuaded but until I actually see the clip(s)supporting your interpretation of what played out on screen,my opinion of what I saw and heard on screen will remain the same and we will just have to agree to disagree. There are a lot of posters who don't like Gabi or Rafe and/or find them boring.They are entitled to their opinion.I have always liked Gabi even though I don't always agree with what she does and I will miss her when she leaves and the same goes for Rafe.
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Jan 30 2014, 12:54 AM
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So NO ONE notices acne scars on Brady/EM?! I haven't noiced.I like EM/Brady's face.I really don't need unblemished to find someone attractive.
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Can we get GIFs of JJ, please?! I hate that Casey Moss is so young and so cute... :wub2: Lol.
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So NO ONE notices acne scars on Brady/EM?! I've noticed them, but I usually don't fixate on something as trivial as that.
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Jan 30 2014, 07:27 AM
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- Jan 29 2014, 09:49 PM
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I see what you're saying about everything being about plot points but honestly if TPTB wanted to "shake up Ejami", a cheating storyline--especially with EJ, should've been the last way to go as a plot point if indeed Ejami is "endgame". I can't recall one single relationship on this show that has survived cheating. Couples can survived Murder attempts, rapes, and all kinds of lying but cheating--especially more than a ONS which can be more easily forgiven-- is a kiss of death in soaps as a romantic couple.
I don't think Ejami is going to survive this. Sorry, that's what I meant by shaking them up. TPTB like EJ and Sami to change relationships like other people change shoes. Ejami will likely have been together for 15 months when it's all said and done (and 10 of them were actually happy). That's a pretty good run, especially for an EJ relationship. Amazingly enough, it's the first time in 7.5 years that they've had him happy in a relationship where there wasn't some secret that would blow it up. Alas, the writers remembered they don't like EJ like that, so there you go.
See, I would argue that they have been happy in those 15 months. They have had happy times/moments. But when you look at the state of their relationship overall, almost every other week there was arguments/distrust/screaming at each other over something. I know Ejami prides itself on their volatile relationship, but that gets old really quick when you have to live with it on a day by day basis. But that said, I do hate to admit it but Ejami could eventually recover from this. It wouldn't (or shouldn't) be soon. It all depends on how they write off AS. Personally I still think it really coincidental that AS chooses to leave right when all of her revolving love interests have someone new in their life. I know this was all recorded before November when AS made it "official" to Corday, but I bet anything she gave him a heads up beforehand and they decided to try Sheryl/Lucas (which is going really slow) and Ej/Abby (which obviously is going super fast). It doesn't really matter if she gave them a heads up or not. They knew her contract was coming up for negotiation and she almost didn't re-sign the previous time. They went with a story that could easily accommodate her decision.
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Jan 30 2014, 08:56 AM
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- Jan 29 2014, 07:33 PM
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Yes I agree. Will is devoted to Gabi and has always cared about her. Even when she and Nick were trying to keep him out of the picture regarding the baby (when she had the sonogram appt but did not tell Will, etc) Will still felt loyalty to her (but not Nick). He is a loyal friend to have (to T, and Sonny, and Gabi and even Chad).
Gabi never tried to keep Will out of Arianna's life.She specifically told him he would always be a part of his daughter's life.Gabi agreed to let Nick say that he was the father because she did not want to interfere in Will's relationship with Sonny.Even When Nick tried to blackmail Will into giving up his rights,Gabi told Will he would always be a part of his daughter's lifJust because Gabi did not get in Nick's face and start screaming at him about his plan to get Will to give up his parental right does not mean she was trying to keep him out of the picture.That is why Will's relationship with Gabi has not changed.Also Gabi did not intentionally hurt Melanie.She hired Andrew to pretend to stalk her.When she found out about the kidnapping and said she was going to the police,Andrew blackmailed her to keep her from reporting that he kidnapped Melanie. Gabi also went into the tunnel and helped Melanie to escape.Gabi is not a bad person,she does not follow her own instincts,she always allows someone with worse judgement to persuade her to go against her instinct to do the right thing.
Oh, come on BeeBee! Let's not whitewash Gabi's complicity in Will's blackmail and keeping him away from his daughter. She knew from the beginning that Nick blackmailed Will and was holding something over his head but said nothing as long as she got what she wanted. She always deferred to Nick when it came to Will having access to his baby. Gabi didn't act like a friend to Will in her Gack period. I seem to remember a scene when Sonny and Sami were trying to get Will's confession and Will was tasked to distract Gabi, he gave her a gift and Gabi said to him: I thought you wanted to pressure me to have access to the baby? WTF! Why would she have any issue with the baby's father having access to her daughter? She said one thing to Will but acted in a different way when he was not there. She told her brother and everyone else that Will wanted the abortion, when he was supportive to her from the start. She used his love for Sonny to put doubts into his head and manipulate him. She was fine whith her husband's bigotry towards her best friend. She was really a lousy friend that time. The only thing that makes me forgive her is that she was being controlled and manipulated by Nick. To put in my two cents, I thought the writing for Gabi during the blackmail plot was inconsistent. I didn't think there was an intention to make Gabi torn, I think there were daily script writers who had her totally in cahoots with Nick and happy to manipulate Will out of his child and other daily script writers who saw Gabi as wanting Will to be a part of his child's life and just a pawn of Nick. It just depended on the day you were watching and poor CB had to try and muck through this writing. So, there were definitely moments where Gabi seemed very sympathetic and/or acting under the thrall of an abusive boyfriend/husband and other times when she was a full on partner in the manipulation. At this point, I retro fit it that Gabi made the mistake of wanting a "normal" family with Nick and did some things that were not right because of it, but ultimately realized her error because deep down she always cared about Will.
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- Jan 29 2014, 08:16 PM
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Gabi never tried to keep Will out of Arianna's life.She specifically told him he would always be a part of his daughter's life.Gabi agreed to let Nick say that he was the father because she did not want to interfere in Will's relationship with Sonny.Even When Nick tried to blackmail Will into giving up his rights,Gabi told Will he would always be a part of his daughter's lifJust because Gabi did not get in Nick's face and start screaming at him about his plan to get Will to give up his parental right does not mean she was trying to keep him out of the picture.That is why Will's relationship with Gabi has not changed.Also Gabi did not intentionally hurt Melanie.She hired Andrew to pretend to stalk her.When she found out about the kidnapping and said she was going to the police,Andrew blackmailed her to keep her from reporting that he kidnapped Melanie. Gabi also went into the tunnel and helped Melanie to escape.Gabi is not a bad person,she does not follow her own instincts,she always allows someone with worse judgement to persuade her to go against her instinct to do the right thing.
Oh, come on BeeBee! Let's not whitewash Gabi's complicity in Will's blackmail and keeping him away from his daughter. She knew from the beginning that Nick blackmailed Will and was holding something over his head but said nothing as long as she got what she wanted. She always deferred to Nick when it came to Will having access to his baby. Gabi didn't act like a friend to Will in her Gack period. I seem to remember a scene when Sonny and Sami were trying to get Will's confession and Will was tasked to distract Gabi, he gave her a gift and Gabi said to him: I thought you wanted to pressure me to have access to the baby? WTF! Why would she have any issue with the baby's father having access to her daughter? She said one thing to Will but acted in a different way when he was not there. She told her brother and everyone else that Will wanted the abortion, when he was supportive to her from the start. She used his love for Sonny to put doubts into his head and manipulate him. She was fine whith her husband's bigotry towards her best friend. She was really a lousy friend that time. The only thing that makes me forgive her is that she was being controlled and manipulated by Nick.
To put in my two cents, I thought the writing for Gabi during the blackmail plot was inconsistent. I didn't think there was an intention to make Gabi torn, I think there were daily script writers who had her totally in cahoots with Nick and happy to manipulate Will out of his child and other daily script writers who saw Gabi as wanting Will to be a part of his child's life and just a pawn of Nick. It just depended on the day you were watching and poor CB had to try and muck through this writing. So, there were definitely moments where Gabi seemed very sympathetic and/or acting under the thrall of an abusive boyfriend/husband and other times when she was a full on partner in the manipulation. At this point, I retro fit it that Gabi made the mistake of wanting a "normal" family with Nick and did some things that were not right because of it, but ultimately realized her error because deep down she always cared about Will. I totally agree. Never saw Gabi as bad but mostly as a naïve young girl. Even her attempt at coming between Chad and Melanie ,even though it turned into a mess because of psycho Andrew, was not intentionally vindictive. Mistakes she made, lots of them but in comparison to the rest of the coven or Theresa she's the nice one. Love Gabi and will be sorry to see her go.
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