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Feb 5 2014, 11:39 PM
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I took Abby's upset with the fact that EJ/Sami weren't sleeping together less that they weren't having sex, but because it was purely due to the fact that Sami was withholding while EJ was willing instead of a mutual breakdown on both parts. It might be a fine line, but I think it's a very distinct one.
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Feb 5 2014, 11:47 PM
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But how does that make any sense? Abby already knows that Ejami has been on the outs. Does she really think he'd be having sex with her if everything was good at home? Was today supposed to be some wake-up call for her that EJ is only with her because of how bad things are with Sami? My only response to that is "well duh, Abby."
I agree it was strange-ish dialouge bc I remembered Abby suspecting something was up with EJ and Sami before cabinsex - and re-watching the scenes from today just now, she says, "I knew you were arguing, but....". I agree Abby was upset bc she was "realizing" EJ was just using her for sex bc he was deprived at home. Like, that this was a specific policy being enforced. I mean, ummm, yeah, of course....but it's no surprise Abby might want to think EJ has less horn-doggish intentions than that, given her talk of "you feel what I feel too," etc. The thing is, EJ broached the subject with her when he said, "listen about what you just heard" or whatever, which indicated to me he knew she would be upset. Either he knew she would be upset 1) bc he knows she is naive and would have her feelings hurt easily (very likely) or 2) the show wants us to think Abby had a good reason for the pissy-offedness. Either way it was strange writing choice. I would think Abby would be pleased EJ was only getting his rocks off with her :P
Yeah you'd think, right? But they played it like Abby was offended that EJ wasn't getting any at home. Seriously, WTF? And Sami seems like she wants to make up all of sudden after three months of being pissed. So what brought that on? Oh and EJ was all pissy towards Abby, but then flirty 15 seconds later. Um, okay? The dialogue and interactions were just stupid all the way around. I don't get any of the characters' motivation in this story and they seem to change daily and sometimes within the same show. Other than hot sex scenes, the story itself is a hot mess. And since personally, I don't get off on their sex scenes, all I see is the mess. As soon as Sami said she was keeping EJ out of her bed, I knew Abby would be upset and it made perfect sense to me. Abby wants EJ to have feelings for her. She'd rather EJ not have sex with Sami but by his own choice. Knowing that Sami is the one saying "no" changes everything. It says to Abby that she is being used for sex... which she is, but that's not what she wants it to be. Her fantasy was shattered a bit.
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Feb 5 2014, 11:56 PM
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What really bothers me is the poor writing and lack of consistency in the characters. It's plot driven titillation for the masses. And the jr high jokes the writers keep putting in the dialogue. It's all so LAME. It's like watching something a 13 year old boy wrote with his buddies to try and crack each other up "Now let's say "sticking it!" ". RME
As much as I liked the shower scenes, Sami's dialogues were really bad, today.
Most of it was nonsensical gibberish.The only thing good about it was she had most of it with Carl while outside the room. I guess they figured with EJ and Abby in the shower David Cherril could handle the writing because no one would care what Sami said as long as she was outside of the room long enough for a decent shower scene.
I cared. It was really, really annoying. That AS couldn't manage to remember her lines and say them even a little bit fluidly was annoying. Her hemming and hawing and starting and stopping and putting weird emphases on different words (because she'd forgotten what was coming next) made me want to punch her. I also found it really strange that Sami would be telling all that business stuff to someone who obviously wasn't even interested in having a conversation with her. Why not have Sami call her assistant on her phone since she was already having a one-sided conversation? I would have found it much more believable if Sami had been preening to one of her lackeys than to some random security guard. I only saw the clip so I don't know how she convinced the guard - it would have been a nice touch if she'd paid him off because my guess would be that guards don't randomly go around unlocking doors for people. And for the Ejabby hotness - I'm very excited to be able to watch that again on my big screen tomorrow morning. :D i wonder if the decline in acting skill is caused by thoughts of /decision to leave the show.Chandler got worse after winning his emmys and was almost unwatchable just before he left which is too bad because I had come to love him as Will.As I have said in the past,I watch the show in a somewhat superficial way.I don't have high standards for acting,dialogue,sets,lighting,music,etc.,it has to be really bad to pierce my consciousness.This is to say I did not notice how bad AS was until the last couple of years and it has gotten worse since the Bernardi shooting.Makes me wonder if some actors cannot hide their desire to move on.Its too bad because Sami too has been a character I was happy to have on screen because its alway great to see the original/early recast in a role they have played for a significant period of time.I actually hate that I now think I am going to be happy when she is gone.Its really too bad.Maybe people should leave when the first realize it is time for them to move on so you can be sad they are leaving but wish them well.
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iheartwilson
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Feb 5 2014, 11:59 PM
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Yuck, I'm glad they covered up the tattoo. Rory's brother does look like Chad! Thanks for the pic comparison.
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Feb 6 2014, 12:04 AM
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That was actually much sexier in slow motion. Oh wait I digress!! what I meant to say was damn, I don't know how the hell he held her up. You know how slippery skin on skin is in the shower???!! There had to have been a stool at some point! And was that really PG today!? My god what is pg-13? Did super girl use the same music as the show for that? Because it was sexual, but yet kind of dark and foreboding.
I'm right here. lol. and no, I didn't. Especially since there was no music on the show - just the sound of the shower.
And given their great work with Music I'd suggest they keep going in that direction. Just re-watched the Abby Chad love scenes and the music in that was cringe-able. I hated Chad and Abby so I didn't watch it and I am certainly not going to watch it now.I would like to know what you thought of Chad/Abby sex.aside from the music,if you don't mind sharing.I don't remember seeing too much posted about it when it occured.
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Feb 6 2014, 12:08 AM
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Supergirl, thanks for today's slo-mo!
:wow: :sweet: :whooohooo: :thanks:
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Feb 6 2014, 12:22 AM
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I'm right here. lol. and no, I didn't. Especially since there was no music on the show - just the sound of the shower.
And given their great work with Music I'd suggest they keep going in that direction. Just re-watched the Abby Chad love scenes and the music in that was cringe-able.
I hated Chad and Abby so I didn't watch it and I am certainly not going to watch it now.I would like to know what you thought of Chad/Abby sex.aside from the music,if you don't mind sharing.I don't remember seeing too much posted about it when it occured. I'm probably not the right person to ask as I'm a bit partial to a side dose of Chad.
But if you could overlook the whole brain tumour thing and turn the music off it was the right amount of sweet, tender, and just a tiny bit hesitant/awkward. And viewing retrospectively amusing for the number of shots which could be either EJ / Chad. Does include a necessary hand grasp which I think is a motif that is starting to be overplayed.
But warning watch with the music muted with the music on it is gag worthy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfi2L56OHiQ
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Feb 6 2014, 12:30 AM
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I agree it was strange-ish dialouge bc I remembered Abby suspecting something was up with EJ and Sami before cabinsex - and re-watching the scenes from today just now, she says, "I knew you were arguing, but....". I agree Abby was upset bc she was "realizing" EJ was just using her for sex bc he was deprived at home. Like, that this was a specific policy being enforced. I mean, ummm, yeah, of course....but it's no surprise Abby might want to think EJ has less horn-doggish intentions than that, given her talk of "you feel what I feel too," etc. The thing is, EJ broached the subject with her when he said, "listen about what you just heard" or whatever, which indicated to me he knew she would be upset. Either he knew she would be upset 1) bc he knows she is naive and would have her feelings hurt easily (very likely) or 2) the show wants us to think Abby had a good reason for the pissy-offedness. Either way it was strange writing choice. I would think Abby would be pleased EJ was only getting his rocks off with her :P
Yeah you'd think, right? But they played it like Abby was offended that EJ wasn't getting any at home. Seriously, WTF? And Sami seems like she wants to make up all of sudden after three months of being pissed. So what brought that on? Oh and EJ was all pissy towards Abby, but then flirty 15 seconds later. Um, okay? The dialogue and interactions were just stupid all the way around. I don't get any of the characters' motivation in this story and they seem to change daily and sometimes within the same show. Other than hot sex scenes, the story itself is a hot mess. And since personally, I don't get off on their sex scenes, all I see is the mess.
As soon as Sami said she was keeping EJ out of her bed, I knew Abby would be upset and it made perfect sense to me. Abby wants EJ to have feelings for her. She'd rather EJ not have sex with Sami but by his own choice. Knowing that Sami is the one saying "no" changes everything. It says to Abby that she is being used for sex... which she is, but that's not what she wants it to be. Her fantasy was shattered a bit. subconciousley, Could it be that's she's trying to win EJ with sex? I mean she thought he was choosing to have sex with her because of her, and now she's wondering if there was ever a contest to begin with...because Sami wasn't putting out. she's trying to show shes sexy to EJ and a grown up. Now she knows he's not choosing her, she's all the sex he gets. I don't know, it's late and what u said struck me. Now I think she may keep going after him to see if she can win. She doesn't really like bad guys, but the chase and win is exciting to her.
Oh and of course the sex is good too.
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Feb 6 2014, 12:36 AM
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Feb 6 2014, 12:40 AM
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Um... Abby is a grown up. It's not like she's 15. Or even 20. lol
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Feb 6 2014, 12:52 AM
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And given their great work with Music I'd suggest they keep going in that direction. Just re-watched the Abby Chad love scenes and the music in that was cringe-able.
I hated Chad and Abby so I didn't watch it and I am certainly not going to watch it now.I would like to know what you thought of Chad/Abby sex.aside from the music,if you don't mind sharing.I don't remember seeing too much posted about it when it occured.
I'm probably not the right person to ask as I'm a bit partial to a side dose of Chad. But if you could overlook the whole brain tumour thing and turn the music off it was the right amount of sweet, tender, and just a tiny bit hesitant/awkward. And viewing retrospectively amusing for the number of shots which could be either EJ / Chad. Does include a necessary hand grasp which I think is a motif that is starting to be overplayed. But warning watch with the music muted with the music on it is gag worthy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfi2L56OHiQ Okay ,you refreshed my memory.I did see this.I remember the floral romper Abby is wearing,Chad with the tumor specialist memory confirming he did not have the tumor, Abby/Gabi giddy conversation,and Cameron overhearing that Abby had sex with Chad.The actual sex scenes were not too bad but the conversation before and after sex was telling.Abby saying she wanted to do something for the first time with Chad that she would not normally do makes it seem like she was tired of being a virgin and she might as well take care of that little chore with Chad.And his post sex comment that she was a total pro did not hit the right note.He might want to consult EJ for post coital conversation tips.
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Feb 6 2014, 12:55 AM
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Nicole looks like she knows what she is doing with that gun.Too bad her prison time will keep her from opening a detective agency or joining SPD.
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Feb 6 2014, 01:01 AM
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YOU DID NOT DISAPPOINT!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
That was actually much sexier in slow motion. Oh wait I digress!! what I meant to say was damn, I don't know how the hell he held her up. You know how slippery skin on skin is in the shower???!! There had to have been a stool at some point! And was that really PG today!? My god what is pg-13? Did super girl use the same music as the show for that? Because it was sexual, but yet kind of dark and foreboding. Gawd, that was HOT! And I love that Ejabby don't do the fake closed mouth kisses you see in many love scenes. There were some realistic open mouth kisses that upped the HOTTNESS factor 100x!
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Feb 6 2014, 01:11 AM
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And his post sex comment that she was a total pro did not hit the right note.He might want to consult EJ for post coital conversation tips. I love EJabby as much as the next person, but no one should be listening to EJ about post-coital conversation tips. All EJ says after drilling Abby (or coming close to drilling Abby) is, "I'm sorry."
He needs to spit better game when it comes to Ms. Deveraux.
(Could you imagine dirty talk between those two? What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall...)
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OMG it took me a couple of minutes to realize what ej did before getting out of the shower. Hahaha turning the cold water on himself. Classy, Eej.
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Eric is so boring when he is not near Nicole......zzzzzzzz
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Feb 6 2014, 01:46 AM
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And his post sex comment that she was a total pro did not hit the right note.He might want to consult EJ for post coital conversation tips.
I love EJabby as much as the next person, but no one should be listening to EJ about post-coital conversation tips. All EJ says after drilling Abby (or coming close to drilling Abby) is, "I'm sorry." He needs to spit better game when it comes to Ms. Deveraux. (Could you imagine dirty talk between those two? What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall...) Chad to Abby:You were a total pro.
EJ to Abby: That was really quite lovely.You are a beautifiul young woman.I like talking to you.I can't look at you because of the feelings I get when I look at you.I had sex with you because I could not stop myself.
I am going to have to agree to disagree on the post coital conversation of the brothers DiMera.#postcoitalconversationteamEJ
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I've got to hand it to JS and KM. They sold the hell out of that shower scene. So many sex :ahem: "love" scenes on soaps look choreographed and fake, but with the facial expressions, scratching and hair tugging, EJabby today looked about as real as I've seen in a long time.
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