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Wednesday, February 5th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 5 2014, 12:52 AM (32,848 Views)
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Aimikins
Feb 6 2014, 01:20 AM
Eric is so boring when he is not near Nicole......zzzzzzzz
Don't worry.. They will finally be moving that story along next week!! Dare I say we actually get some romance coming from Eric for Valentines?!?? Fingers crossed :wub2:
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Feb 5 2014, 10:23 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 06:10 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 05:59 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 05:07 PM

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Yeah you'd think, right? But they played it like Abby was offended that EJ wasn't getting any at home. Seriously, WTF? And Sami seems like she wants to make up all of sudden after three months of being pissed. So what brought that on? Oh and EJ was all pissy towards Abby, but then flirty 15 seconds later. Um, okay? The dialogue and interactions were just stupid all the way around. I don't get any of the characters' motivation in this story and they seem to change daily and sometimes within the same show. Other than hot sex scenes, the story itself is a hot mess. And since personally, I don't get off on their sex scenes, all I see is the mess.

Funny how opinions go. I think the scenes were fairly realistic.

EJabby were almost caught by Sami. That would put a damper on any flirty stuff. Plus Abby overheard that Sami has been freezing EJ out of her bed. Now it's one thing to suspect that, but it's another to hear it straight from the horse's mouth. Her reaction to hearing her had more to do with Abby's own shame of how she's meeting EJ's needs other than his fiancee. EJ was cold at that moment but Sami JUST LEFT, and he was going to miss his son's basketball game too (which the way JS played it, that is what pissed him off actually). I don't think he's specifically trying to be cold to Abigail at the moment, just that seeing Sami obviously put him in a bad mood.

When he comes back with that hilarious outfit, enough time had passed for him to finally relax now. Sami is gone and their secret is still safe. With Abby mortified at that ridiculous outfit, I saw EJ realizing the preposterous clothes he picked and allowing himself the indulgence to watching Abigail be embarrassed by what she is wearing but as a man he appreciates it.

Abby tries to leave and YET AGAIN EJ is the one to call her back and make sure she doesn't leave without hearing his constant "I'm sorry." Abby's reply that she isn't sorry is probably the God honest truth . She enjoyed herself and then some in that shower. And in a way I think that's what makes Abby interesting to me. She doesn't play games. Not really. She's going to tell the truth if she can and the truth is she loves being fucked by EJ. I don't think she's in love with him, I do think she believes she sees a particular side to EJ that most people don't get to see. As for EJ, I don't think he's in love with Abby either but I do think she gets to him in ways he doesn't understand.

I love your analytical mind and way with words although I am still of the opinion that EJ and Abby do love each other,the just don't realize it.As I have posted before,how many times has EJ has apologized for any negative behaior.I don't recall him ever apologizing for anything he has done to anyone even when his behavior clearly warranted an apology yet he is constantly apologizing to Abby.


He did apologized for the rape.

BeeBee
Feb 5 2014, 08:13 PM
S loves EJ
Feb 5 2014, 04:16 PM
tomsawyer
Feb 5 2014, 03:58 PM
Today was pretty meh for me. Chyka/Dikki stuff was just boring. Oooh, Nicole may shoot him, expect we all know she won't. It all just felt like a big stall and not in an entertaining way. I'm glad Stefano and Ricardo are getting involved because maybe they can bring something interesting to the story. Theresa/JJ stuff is just getting repetitive. We get it, they're rivals. Why again am I supposed to care? And don't even get me started on Eric and the monk's neverending dialogue. Who ever thought an endless conversation between a priest and a monk about whether he should try to be a priest or a monk would make for great soap? As for Ejabby, their sex isn't titillating to me, so all I hear is a bunch of bizarre dialogue (apparently Abby is upset that EJ has NOT been double-dipping - um, WTF?). Plus, there is zero consistency in how the characters behave toward each other so I have no clue as to any of their motivations for anything. Maybe it was the Cherrill script, but today was pretty bad all the way around.
Abby was upset that Ejami hasn't been sleeping together because she thought it meant that he just
been using her for sex and that he doesn't have feelings for her but it looked like he does when he
put that cape on her.
I know Abby was pissed because she believes EJ was only using her because Sami kicked him out of her bed but it was still bizzare for her to pissed because he wasn't double dipping.I for one am happy he is not.Atleast she came to her senses enough to tell him she was not sorry it happened.
I was honestly surprised when EJ smiling told Abby he would not mind seeing her in the outfit again and when he tied the blouse as she was putting on her coat.I didn't think he would be so flirty after almost getting caught by Sami.I am also wondering why he cannot make Johnnie's soccer game or whatever since he did not make plans to see Abby.What the hell is he going to be doing that he cannot make that game?


While I understood why Abby was upset I thought Abbyīs reaction was a bit strange too I thought Abby was gonna be happy about Ejami not sleeping together.
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Feb 6 2014, 03:13 AM
Abby tries to leave and YET AGAIN EJ is the one to call her back and make sure she doesn't leave without hearing his constant "I'm sorry." Abby's reply that she isn't sorry is probably the God honest truth . She enjoyed herself and then some in that shower. And in a way I think that's what makes Abby interesting to me. She doesn't play games. Not really. She's going to tell the truth if she can and the truth is she loves being fucked by EJ. I don't think she's in love with him, I do think she believes she sees a particular side to EJ that most people don't get to see. As for EJ, I don't think he's in love with Abby either but I do think she gets to him in ways he doesn't understand.

I love your analytical mind and way with words although I am still of the opinion that EJ and Abby do love each other,the just don't realize it.As I have posted before,how many times has EJ has apologized for any negative behaior.I don't recall him ever apologizing for anything he has done to anyone even when his behavior clearly warranted an apology yet he is constantly apologizing to Abby.[/quote]

He did apologized for the rape.

BeeBee
Feb 5 2014, 08:13 PM
S loves EJ
Feb 5 2014, 04:16 PM
tomsawyer
Feb 5 2014, 03:58 PM
Today was pretty meh for me. Chyka/Dikki stuff was just boring. Oooh, Nicole may shoot him, expect we all know she won't. It all just felt like a big stall and not in an entertaining way. I'm glad Stefano and Ricardo are getting involved because maybe they can bring something interesting to the story. Theresa/JJ stuff is just getting repetitive. We get it, they're rivals. Why again am I supposed to care? And don't even get me started on Eric and the monk's neverending dialogue. Who ever thought an endless conversation between a priest and a monk about whether he should try to be a priest or a monk would make for great soap? As for Ejabby, their sex isn't titillating to me, so all I hear is a bunch of bizarre dialogue (apparently Abby is upset that EJ has NOT been double-dipping - um, WTF?). Plus, there is zero consistency in how the characters behave toward each other so I have no clue as to any of their motivations for anything. Maybe it was the Cherrill script, but today was pretty bad all the way around.
Abby was upset that Ejami hasn't been sleeping together because she thought it meant that he just
been using her for sex and that he doesn't have feelings for her but it looked like he does when he
put that cape on her.
I know Abby was pissed because she believes EJ was only using her because Sami kicked him out of her bed but it was still bizzare for her to pissed because he wasn't double dipping.I for one am happy he is not.Atleast she came to her senses enough to tell him she was not sorry it happened.
I was honestly surprised when EJ smiling told Abby he would not mind seeing her in the outfit again and when he tied the blouse as she was putting on her coat.I didn't think he would be so flirty after almost getting caught by Sami.I am also wondering why he cannot make Johnnie's soccer game or whatever since he did not make plans to see Abby.What the hell is he going to be doing that he cannot make that game?


While I understood why Abby was upset I thought Abbyīs reaction was a bit strange too I thought Abby was gonna be happy about Ejami not sleeping together.[/quote]



When did he apologize for the rape? I am not saying he didn't I just don't remember it.What did he say,if you and recall and what was the response to the apology?

Sorry I messed up the quoting function.
Edited by BeeBee, Feb 6 2014, 03:47 AM.
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About 8 minutes into this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHgPR-qK_k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMRlzlPFb9A
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Feb 6 2014, 03:44 AM
S loves EJ
Feb 6 2014, 03:13 AM
Abby tries to leave and YET AGAIN EJ is the one to call her back and make sure she doesn't leave without hearing his constant "I'm sorry." Abby's reply that she isn't sorry is probably the God honest truth . She enjoyed herself and then some in that shower. And in a way I think that's what makes Abby interesting to me. She doesn't play games. Not really. She's going to tell the truth if she can and the truth is she loves being fucked by EJ. I don't think she's in love with him, I do think she believes she sees a particular side to EJ that most people don't get to see. As for EJ, I don't think he's in love with Abby either but I do think she gets to him in ways he doesn't understand.

I love your analytical mind and way with words although I am still of the opinion that EJ and Abby do love each other,the just don't realize it.As I have posted before,how many times has EJ has apologized for any negative behaior.I don't recall him ever apologizing for anything he has done to anyone even when his behavior clearly warranted an apology yet he is constantly apologizing to Abby.


He did apologized for the rape.

BeeBee
Feb 5 2014, 08:13 PM
S loves EJ
Feb 5 2014, 04:16 PM
tomsawyer
Feb 5 2014, 03:58 PM
Today was pretty meh for me. Chyka/Dikki stuff was just boring. Oooh, Nicole may shoot him, expect we all know she won't. It all just felt like a big stall and not in an entertaining way. I'm glad Stefano and Ricardo are getting involved because maybe they can bring something interesting to the story. Theresa/JJ stuff is just getting repetitive. We get it, they're rivals. Why again am I supposed to care? And don't even get me started on Eric and the monk's neverending dialogue. Who ever thought an endless conversation between a priest and a monk about whether he should try to be a priest or a monk would make for great soap? As for Ejabby, their sex isn't titillating to me, so all I hear is a bunch of bizarre dialogue (apparently Abby is upset that EJ has NOT been double-dipping - um, WTF?). Plus, there is zero consistency in how the characters behave toward each other so I have no clue as to any of their motivations for anything. Maybe it was the Cherrill script, but today was pretty bad all the way around.
Abby was upset that Ejami hasn't been sleeping together because she thought it meant that he just
been using her for sex and that he doesn't have feelings for her but it looked like he does when he
put that cape on her.
I know Abby was pissed because she believes EJ was only using her because Sami kicked him out of her bed but it was still bizzare for her to pissed because he wasn't double dipping.I for one am happy he is not.Atleast she came to her senses enough to tell him she was not sorry it happened.
I was honestly surprised when EJ smiling told Abby he would not mind seeing her in the outfit again and when he tied the blouse as she was putting on her coat.I didn't think he would be so flirty after almost getting caught by Sami.I am also wondering why he cannot make Johnnie's soccer game or whatever since he did not make plans to see Abby.What the hell is he going to be doing that he cannot make that game?


While I understood why Abby was upset I thought Abbyīs reaction was a bit strange too I thought Abby was gonna be happy about Ejami not sleeping together.[/quote]



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When did he apologize for the rape? I am not saying he didn't I just don't remember it.What did he say,if you and recall and what was the response to the apology?

Sorry I messed up the quoting function.


He never apologized for gleefully having Arnold Finnegan rape Sami multiple times. Nor for him bullying Allie.
Edited by TreasureCove, Feb 6 2014, 06:07 AM.
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Feb 6 2014, 01:46 AM
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Feb 6 2014, 01:11 AM
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Feb 6 2014, 12:52 AM
And his post sex comment that she was a total pro did not hit the right note.He might want to consult EJ for post coital conversation tips.
I love EJabby as much as the next person, but no one should be listening to EJ about post-coital conversation tips. All EJ says after drilling Abby (or coming close to drilling Abby) is, "I'm sorry."

He needs to spit better game when it comes to Ms. Deveraux.

(Could you imagine dirty talk between those two? What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall...)
Chad to Abby:You were a total pro.

EJ to Abby: That was really quite lovely.You are a beautifiul young woman.I like talking to you.I can't look at you because of the feelings I get when I look at you.I had sex with you because I could not stop myself.

I am going to have to agree to disagree on the post coital conversation of the brothers DiMera.#postcoitalconversationteamEJ
Whatever happened to having a smoke afterwards and snuggling? ;)
Conversations are sometimes overrated.
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Feb 5 2014, 08:52 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 08:35 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 04:59 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 04:46 PM
What really bothers me is the poor writing and lack of consistency in the characters. It's plot driven titillation for the masses. And the jr high jokes the writers keep putting in the dialogue. It's all so LAME. It's like watching something a 13 year old boy wrote with his buddies to try and crack each other up "Now let's say "sticking it!" ". RME
As much as I liked the shower scenes, Sami's dialogues were really bad, today.
Most of it was nonsensical gibberish.The only thing good about it was she had most of it with Carl while outside the room.

I guess they figured with EJ and Abby in the shower David Cherril could handle the writing because no one would care what Sami said as long as she was outside of the room long enough for a decent shower scene.
I cared. It was really, really annoying. That AS couldn't manage to remember her lines and say them even a little bit fluidly was annoying. Her hemming and hawing and starting and stopping and putting weird emphases on different words (because she'd forgotten what was coming next) made me want to punch her.

I also found it really strange that Sami would be telling all that business stuff to someone who obviously wasn't even interested in having a conversation with her. Why not have Sami call her assistant on her phone since she was already having a one-sided conversation? I would have found it much more believable if Sami had been preening to one of her lackeys than to some random security guard.

I only saw the clip so I don't know how she convinced the guard - it would have been a nice touch if she'd paid him off because my guess would be that guards don't randomly go around unlocking doors for people.

And for the Ejabby hotness - I'm very excited to be able to watch that again on my big screen tomorrow morning. :D

My feeling is that the writers let us down by using Sami's psycho babble to override a more interesting <cough> conclusion to the shower scene.

She was soooo busy being self involved that she noticed NOTHING, except that she thought EJ was "happy" to see her when he exited the shower. Too bad he didn't turn the cold water on earlier, hahaha.

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Feb 5 2014, 10:51 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 10:07 PM
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Feb 5 2014, 10:03 PM
Wow, the really dumbed down Sami to make this fiasco, last till sweeps. Abby is delusional and I can't wait to see her crash. Made love ? c'mon Abby! Let's not get carried away. The man has a fiancée and has children at home. He's not your boyfriend. Ridiculous !
This will not end well for young Abigail.

Also as much as I love EJ, I don't like what they're doing to the character. Forgetting/Missing Johnny's game??Blatlanty cheating on Sami ? Look, I know that Sami's done awful things and she probably deserves it but it doesn't make it right. Awful!
This is EJ though... I don't think fidelity has ever been one of his core values.
and although some might say otherwise...I have never really thought he truly cared about his children either...you don't make your son Johnny believe that his mother doesn't love him and you don't kidnap your daughter, leave her with a virtual stranger to her either....oh who can forget the time he called her 'that'...this was a child he raised from birth....

I just don't get the argument that they are doing a number to the character of Ej because of how they are writing him.....come on....he's been an ass since he stepped into Salem in 2006 and he continues to be an ass. Sami was dumbed down to make Ejami work, she isn't more dumb now... because if Sami was Sami she would have shot the guy in the balls in 2007 and called it a day....

Like the story or not..but the character of Ej isn't trashed because of this story... And let's face it.. the character of Sami was twisted into a pretzel to make pairings work the last 6 years....that goes for both the Ejami and Safe pairings....

EJ hasnīt always been written as the perfect father but I think he has most of the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buX39CPqHgM
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Feb 5 2014, 09:39 PM
Teresa is seriously crazy. JJ said he would not talk about the credit card thing if she keeps quiet. She seemed totally fine with it, but then does a 180
JJ should have stopped while he was ahead.
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Feb 6 2014, 04:38 AM
This was before I was watching on a regular basis.I have a hazy recollection of Lucas being trapped under something and Sami trying to get EJ to get help but I did not see the actual sex or remember what came next.I also have a recollection of DNA testing and Sami having twins with two different fathers which was very WTF to me at the time but again I was not watching regularly.I never saw these scenes prior to viewing today.
When you're right,You are right.He definitely apologized.They definitely talked it all out.I am kind of glad I saw this side of EJ not quite the complete bastard I thought he was,it does make him more likeable for me.Does horrible things to get what he wants but can in some instances shows remorse for what he has done.I just wonder why the writers did not do something similar when they put them back together during the Sami/Rafe period instead of the jokey drinking conversation at the pub and off hand remarks in the square. I am happy I saw them for another reason.I thought AS was actually quite good in those scenes with EJ and Lucas in the first clip.She wasn't quite as good in the second clip but she was okay.That last portion with Nicole and Ralph(side note:wonder when Harold took over)Sami,and EJ was funny and kind of cute.I wonder why AS currently is not as good as she was back then.She really should look at some of earlier work and compare it with what she is doing now.It may be too late for Days fans to benefit but could help with future projects as I am sure many of her supporters will continue to follow her whatever she does in the future.
Thanks for providing the clips.
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I think ej apologize in 2007 seem weak in next day he saw he forces kiss on her if was really sorry force sex on her he would not force kiss on her later the apologize he just told Sami what she wanted to hear but he did not meant.and 2008 talk lame attempt to whitewash it
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I know this is the kiss you are talking about he just teasing her and meant to be a funny scene the thing is EJ is a bad man and you canīt expect him to change in one day the clips when he apologizes is 1 year apart, and he does says he is sorry in this clip too and then he flirts with Sami who doesnīt seem to mind to much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsb1BN6C7s
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Feb 6 2014, 11:31 AM
I think ej apologize in 2007 seem weak in next day he saw he forces kiss on her if was really sorry force sex on her he would not force kiss on her later the apologize he just told Sami what she wanted to hear but he did not meant.and 2008 talk lame attempt to whitewash it
Yep, and she was already flirting with him and betraying Lucas at that point. Completely trivializing rape.

He kept calling it making love, put the blame for him terrorizing her while she was pregnant on her,* and he used classic liar's deception. He deflected by blaming his father and distraction by pretending not to know what she meant by scars,

Durrr, herp-derp, how could it be possible I hurt you? Durrr."

Insultingly, a character known for holding grudges and taking 10 years to forgive immediately decided that was enough and spread wide for him :shame:

*(The excuse of every abusive spouse: I'm sorry I hit you, but it wouldn't have happened if you didn't make me so angry, so my actions are your fault.)
Edited by TreasureCove, Feb 6 2014, 12:26 PM.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

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Feb 6 2014, 12:00 PM
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I think ej apologize in 2007 seem weak in next day he saw he forces kiss on her if was really sorry force sex on her he would not force kiss on her later the apologize he just told Sami what she wanted to hear but he did not meant.and 2008 talk lame attempt to whitewash it
Yep, and she was already flirting with him and betraying Lucas at that point. He kept calling it making love, put the blame for him terrorizing her while she was pregnant on her and he used classic liar's deception. He deflected by blaming his father and distraction by pretending not to know what she meant by scars,

Durrr, herp-derp, how could it be possible I hurt you? Durrr."

Insultingly, a character known for holding grudges and taking 10 years to forgive immediately decided that was enough and spread wide for him :shame:
and this is why I'm saying that Sami isn't JUST written to be dumb and OOC...she's been destroyed and it started in 2007.....Ej has been Ej since 2006....and to this day he really hasn't been written all that OOC.
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Feb 6 2014, 12:00 PM
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Feb 6 2014, 11:31 AM
I think ej apologize in 2007 seem weak in next day he saw he forces kiss on her if was really sorry force sex on her he would not force kiss on her later the apologize he just told Sami what she wanted to hear but he did not meant.and 2008 talk lame attempt to whitewash it
Yep, and she was already flirting with him and betraying Lucas at that point. Completely trivializing rape.

He kept calling it making love, put the blame for him terrorizing her while she was pregnant on her and he used classic liar's deception. He deflected by blaming his father and distraction by pretending not to know what she meant by scars,

Durrr, herp-derp, how could it be possible I hurt you? Durrr."

Insultingly, a character known for holding grudges and taking 10 years to forgive immediately decided that was enough and spread wide for him :shame:

I do think the dialogue when they discuss the rape could be better because itīs contradicting. It would have been better if he had called it rape instead of making love but itīs obvious he realizes it wasnīt making love or else he wouldnīt say it was a terrible mistake and that he is sorry. I think the reason he says making love is because the writers didnīt think it would make sense for Sami to forgive him otherwise.

As for him saying how did I hurt you? he meant physically since he didnīt do that but itīs sounds dumb and also contradicting since it obvious that he realizes he hurt her psychologically.

Iīm not saying it isnīt whitwashing but his apology was good enough for me but I know thatīs not the case for everyone, but the rape was a mistake that should never been written in the first place since people liked Ejami and 1,5 year is pretty long for a story even if they could have streched it out a while longer.
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Feb 6 2014, 11:50 AM
I know this is the kiss you are talking about he just teasing her and meant to be a funny scene the thing is EJ is a bad man and you canīt expect him to change in one day the clips when he apologizes is 1 year apart, and he does says he is sorry in this clip too and then he flirts with Sami who doesnīt seem to mind to much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsb1BN6C7s
I not going to debate about anymore after this postjust want to make clear my point that action mean than words if really meant he sorry for forcing sex on Sami he would not force kiss on Sami even she behave semi friendly to him and I wanted to add Sami was married when force kiss on Sami pretty show ej has not respect for marriage with at time with lucas that his Abby uncle and I find funny that criticize of going after engaged man that only happen because ej gone after Sami when she was married and I find that scene in that clip very odd to Sami how Sami behave like other posters said before me
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Iīm just gonna add that I believe EJ meant his apology because he was in love with Samantha, and since he belived she was his soulmate he couldnīt stay away from her. I donīt blame EJ from going after Sami anymore than I blame Abby for going after EJ even though he is engaged, sometimes you are married or engaged to the wrong person.
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Feb 6 2014, 12:40 PM
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Feb 6 2014, 12:00 PM
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Feb 6 2014, 11:31 AM
I think ej apologize in 2007 seem weak in next day he saw he forces kiss on her if was really sorry force sex on her he would not force kiss on her later the apologize he just told Sami what she wanted to hear but he did not meant.and 2008 talk lame attempt to whitewash it
Yep, and she was already flirting with him and betraying Lucas at that point. Completely trivializing rape.

He kept calling it making love, put the blame for him terrorizing her while she was pregnant on her and he used classic liar's deception. He deflected by blaming his father and distraction by pretending not to know what she meant by scars,

Durrr, herp-derp, how could it be possible I hurt you? Durrr."

Insultingly, a character known for holding grudges and taking 10 years to forgive immediately decided that was enough and spread wide for him :shame:

I do think the dialogue when they discuss the rape could be better because itīs contradicting. It would have been better if he had called it rape instead of making love but itīs obvious he realizes it wasnīt making love or else he wouldnīt say it was a terrible mistake and that he is sorry. I think the reason he says making love is because the writers didnīt think it would make sense for Sami to forgive him otherwise.

As for him saying how did I hurt you? he meant physically since he didnīt do that but itīs sounds dumb and also contradicting since it obvious that he realizes he hurt her psychologically.

Iīm not saying it isnīt whitwashing but his apology was good enough for me but I know thatīs not the case for everyone, but the rape was a mistake that should never been written in the first place since people liked Ejami and 1,5 year is pretty long for a story even if they could have streched it out a while longer.
I know some people think that rape or other stuff bad that happen with ej and Sami is bad writing but the truth what is bad is the whitewash and acting like it never happen and never dealt
Lot of soaps couples happen bad stuff but with angst how they over come it and dealt it.so the whitewash Is bad writing.as some that use to die hard lumi fan I will never call death row bad writing of the writers I actually was even little upset when Sami was jail last year there was not scences of lucas and sami talk about it.the rape was not the bad writing what the bad writing is the whitewash the rape could something that ej and Sami deal with and their angst of not being together of ej really feel bad and remorse and feel unworthy of being with Sami because what he done to her instead have writing ej always hitting her.the bad writing is not bad stuff that happen between ej and Sami is the whitewash of it and acting like it never happen
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Both the actors have said it was a mistake and the writers was fired, and Iīm not sure if those who donīt like Ejami would have liked Ejami with better writting but I suppose itīs possible. Still I would have loved to see more remorse from EJ and him feeling unworthy of Samantha myself what you describing sounds great. I would have loved to see EJ loating himself but in the same time remaining bad and a villain if that would have been possible. I donīt like that they turned him into Everett in 2008 in order to fix things. EJ is a Dimera and shouldnīt be redeemed.
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Feb 6 2014, 12:52 AM
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Feb 6 2014, 12:22 AM
BeeBee
Feb 6 2014, 12:04 AM
concerned
Feb 5 2014, 10:00 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rekq866QyIE
I hated Chad and Abby so I didn't watch it and I am certainly not going to watch it now.I would like to know what you thought of Chad/Abby sex.aside from the music,if you don't mind sharing.I don't remember seeing too much posted about it when it occured.
I'm probably not the right person to ask as I'm a bit partial to a side dose of Chad.

But if you could overlook the whole brain tumour thing and turn the music off it was the right amount of sweet, tender, and just a tiny bit hesitant/awkward. And viewing retrospectively amusing for the number of shots which could be either EJ / Chad. Does include a necessary hand grasp which I think is a motif that is starting to be overplayed.

But warning watch with the music muted with the music on it is gag worthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfi2L56OHiQ
Okay ,you refreshed my memory.I did see this.I remember the floral romper Abby is wearing,Chad with the tumor specialist memory confirming he did not have the tumor,
Abby/Gabi giddy conversation,and Cameron overhearing that Abby had sex with Chad.The actual sex scenes were not too bad but the conversation before and after sex was telling.Abby saying she wanted to do something for the first time with Chad that she would not normally do makes it seem like she was tired of being a virgin and she might as well take care of that little chore with Chad.And his post sex comment that she was a total pro did not hit the right note.He might want to consult EJ for post coital conversation tips.
He wouldn't be able to use them with Abby - she'd have heard them all before.
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