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SOD: EJ to Abby: Move On
Topic Started: Feb 7 2014, 03:00 PM (34,613 Views)
lysie


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Feb 9 2014, 03:52 PM
lysie
Feb 9 2014, 12:57 PM
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Feb 9 2014, 01:52 AM
The thing they haven't managed to find are the great beauties that Julie, Marlena, Hope, Anna, etc. from back in the day. Kinda like the women from the James Bond films. Maybe it's a glamor thing.
This I totally agree with. Maybe that's not supposed to be a thing anymore, but none of the main females on this show still have that look, and for me that was a big draw. If I wanted to watch plain people, I'd look out my window. When they do cast women who fit that description, they keep them in the background. I'm not saying I think the actresses on Days are ugly, but they're definitely missing a factor that for me was what made soap characters stand out. There's glamour and class missing, IMO.

When I was younger, the glamor and beauty hooked me. I still cannot believe people were into the stories, I thought they were lame. lol I may have not liked Marlena or Jennifer but they would still managed to enthrall me with their beauty. That sounds weird, I know.lol

"When they do cast women who fit that description, they keep them in the background." What and who do you mean?
Well, like Chrishell and I think Nadia remained mostly in the background. I'd include Shelley Hennig too.
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Feb 9 2014, 04:06 PM
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Feb 9 2014, 12:57 PM
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Feb 9 2014, 01:52 AM
The thing they haven't managed to find are the great beauties that Julie, Marlena, Hope, Anna, etc. from back in the day. Kinda like the women from the James Bond films. Maybe it's a glamor thing.
This I totally agree with. Maybe that's not supposed to be a thing anymore, but none of the main females on this show still have that look, and for me that was a big draw. If I wanted to watch plain people, I'd look out my window. When they do cast women who fit that description, they keep them in the background. I'm not saying I think the actresses on Days are ugly, but they're definitely missing a factor that for me was what made soap characters stand out. There's glamour and class missing, IMO.

When I was younger, the glamor and beauty hooked me. I still cannot believe people were into the stories, I thought they were lame. lol I may have not liked Marlena or Jennifer but they would still managed to enthrall me with their beauty. That sounds weird, I know.lol

"When they do cast women who fit that description, they keep them in the background." What and who do you mean?
Well, like Chrishell and I think Nadia remained mostly in the background. I'd include Shelley Hennig too.
Out of those three, I would say Nadia is striking but she doesn't really fit what I was talking about, she's more "hot" in a Maxim magazine kind of way. Chrishell and Shelley are "generic pretty girl" to me.

I think the closest nowadays are the telenovelas. Maybe it's a cultural shift.

I will say that Jade Harlow reminds me of Linda Carter who(m) I think fits that glamor but there's something lacking in Jade, there's no oomph I guess.
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Feb 9 2014, 11:45 AM
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Feb 9 2014, 11:41 AM


KM and JS have chemistry or the writers wouldnt have put them in so many sex scenes.
Days always hits the mark with sex scenes and chemistry.
Oh. No just no. I very strongly disagree. :shrug:
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I have to agree that Nadia looks more like a Maxim model than an old school glam-beauty. Same with Crishell, actually.

I actually think the women in the cast are really attractive. But, being glamorous would be more about the way they're styled than anything else. Days looks like the wardrobe department is being run by a group of soccer moms. I don't think the younger women are allowed to wear anything other than nude/light pink lipgloss or paint their nails in anyway that might catch attention. Abby and Gabi must always look "wholesome."

To me, Hope is pretty much the only woman in the cast who works the glam with her beautiful hair, makeup and a classy wardrobe. And even here, she doesn't compare to how turned out she used to be in the 80s.

I don't blame the female cast, I do think they're all lovely.
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Feb 9 2014, 05:26 PM
I actually think the women in the cast are really attractive. But, being glamorous would be more about the way they're styled than anything else. Days looks like the wardrobe department is being run by a group of soccer moms.
Some of the actors/actresses have a say in what their characters wear. And there have been times when actors/actresses have worn their own clothes on the show.

CrayCray
Feb 9 2014, 05:26 PM
To me, Hope is pretty much the only woman in the cast who works the glam with her beautiful hair, makeup and a classy wardrobe. And even here, she doesn't compare to how turned out she used to be in the 80s.
Well, with Hope, you have to remember that in the 80s, she was the spoiled little rich kid that wanted all the fancy & expensive clothes that looked like a million bucks. It played into multiple bits of her story back then - from buying an expensive jacket for Bo for Christmas, to the expensive robe for Doug after his heart attack, to the fur coat she wore on her first day at the police academy, to even Bo telling her that he knows she deserves more than the basement apartment they were living in when they were first married. But since then, Hope's been much more grown up about how she spends her money. Yes, her coming from money meant that Bo & Hope always had a financial cushion in case they needed it, but they've never been written as living lavishly.
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Feb 7 2014, 05:01 PM
Yeah she deserves everything she gets for going back to a man that has done the things that EJ has done to her and for the way she treated Lucas and Rafe. EJ gets what he deserves for going back to a woman that shot his ass in the head and left him to die. I feel nothing for either one when it comes to Ejami. That was just a trainwreck all the way around and now it's going to end once again in disaster which is how it should be. A volatile relationship like that should never get a HEA and i'm glad Ken Corday has set it up to destroy the hell out of them, what a great send off for AS to go out with a bang by bringing back the REAL Samantha Gene as i'm sure she's going to rip EJ's ass to shreds. Must see TV indeed!
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Seriously, I would high five you right now and maybe hug you as well for this post!
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Feb 7 2014, 03:36 PM
Abby's not gonna give him up....she's proving more and more obsessed all the time.
EJ and Sami, yes.

Abby and Austin, yes.

But I haven't seen even a hint of that with Abby and EJ. :shrug:

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Feb 9 2014, 04:17 PM
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KM and JS have chemistry or the writers wouldnt have put them in so many sex scenes.
Days always hits the mark with sex scenes and chemistry.
Oh. No just no. I very strongly disagree. :shrug:
I think we agree.
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Feb 9 2014, 06:24 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 03:36 PM
Abby's not gonna give him up....she's proving more and more obsessed all the time.
EJ and Sami, yes.

Abby and Austin, yes.

But I haven't seen even a hint of that with Abby and EJ. :shrug:

This is what I see.....

Obsessive dwelling on their sexual encounters, her saying a switch goes off when I'm near you, I'm so desperate for you, losing focus on her normal life, ex. Losing check and not aware of it, following him into men's locker room, to talk about Nick, knowing in her heart the cheating is wrong, but not caring cause she is so desperate for him, Saying she's losing her mind but doesn't care because of the sex.

And future spoilers show she has a hard time giving him up....

I agree she's not boiling bunnies but she is obsessing.

Also, the name dropping to T and her aunt about EJ.... Indicates to me that he on her mind and she wants people to know about it.
Edited by salem_viewer, Feb 9 2014, 06:58 PM.
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The difference is that Austin was Abbys victim

EJ is no victim he is a willing participant
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Feb 7 2014, 04:54 PM
EJ is a dick and deserves nothing

Sami did not deserve to be cheated on
Agree with the former for reasons to numerous to list.Absolutely disagree with the latter for reasons too numerous to list.
Edited by BeeBee, Feb 9 2014, 10:52 PM.
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Why does Sami deserve to be cheated on. I know she cheated on Rafe and Lucas but they made their peace with it and moved on

EJ is treating Sami like a cuckold
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Feb 7 2014, 05:13 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:34 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:29 PM
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Feb 7 2014, 04:26 PM

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Yeah - exactly. She seems to show zero guilt or remorse over what they are doing. I just don't get that.

I know it's a soap - but this is a girl that's moral code wouldn't allow her to be with Chad because he lied. Now she's boning his very attached brother and deceiving all sorts of people.

Bizarre. - Bad writing.
What are you talking about? She's been showing remorse and guilt and OMG, what have I done since this thing started. Everyone in Salem keeps bringing up her morality and every time they do it KM visibly cringes and tries to change the subject. Wednesdays show was the first time she outright admitted not being sorry but before she did she also said, "I know I should be sorry."

EJ on the other hand? He has bent over backwards making it clear to Abby this isnt just sex with her and it wasn't manipulation. He's certainly instigated one sexual encounter and tried before IN THE CHURCH. Other than that first time he got home where he went "what have I done?" he hasn't given a shit about how this makes Sami feel or what he's doing to Sami.

So yea, I am a little surprised that they may try to completely act like Sami is EJs priority and she's the love of his life all along when he's seem downright annoyed to even hear her voice.
I don't think it's surprising at all because of all the lead-up to the affair. EJ has been in love with Sami in some way, shape or form for 7 years. The day before he had sex with Abby for the first time, he told Sami he "loved her so much he couldn't see straight." Yet, she's been consistently rejecting him (justly IMO), so he's been feeling hurt, angry and used. And because he's been feeling that way, I think he felt justified in taking what he wanted from Abby. But just because he's hurt and angry doesn't mean his love for Sami just vanished overnight. It would be more surprising to me that after all these years and after everything he tried to be with Sami that EJ just suddenly fell out of love with her. I mean, the woman shot him in the head and left him for dead, if that didn't kill his love for her, I'm not surprised that a few months of rejecting him emotionally and physically wouldn't either.
It just seems to me what you are describing is more consistent with obsession than love.That's why I think the EJ/Sami relationship as similar to Stefano/Marlena.I think EJ believes he loves Sami but I don't think he actually loves her now although he may have loved her in the past.I cannot imagine him doing any of the things to Abby that he has done to Sami.
Edited by BeeBee, Feb 9 2014, 11:16 PM.
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Feb 9 2014, 11:14 PM
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What are you talking about? She's been showing remorse and guilt and OMG, what have I done since this thing started. Everyone in Salem keeps bringing up her morality and every time they do it KM visibly cringes and tries to change the subject. Wednesdays show was the first time she outright admitted not being sorry but before she did she also said, "I know I should be sorry."

EJ on the other hand? He has bent over backwards making it clear to Abby this isnt just sex with her and it wasn't manipulation. He's certainly instigated one sexual encounter and tried before IN THE CHURCH. Other than that first time he got home where he went "what have I done?" he hasn't given a shit about how this makes Sami feel or what he's doing to Sami.

So yea, I am a little surprised that they may try to completely act like Sami is EJs priority and she's the love of his life all along when he's seem downright annoyed to even hear her voice.
I don't think it's surprising at all because of all the lead-up to the affair. EJ has been in love with Sami in some way, shape or form for 7 years. The day before he had sex with Abby for the first time, he told Sami he "loved her so much he couldn't see straight." Yet, she's been consistently rejecting him (justly IMO), so he's been feeling hurt, angry and used. And because he's been feeling that way, I think he felt justified in taking what he wanted from Abby. But just because he's hurt and angry doesn't mean his love for Sami just vanished overnight. It would be more surprising to me that after all these years and after everything he tried to be with Sami that EJ just suddenly fell out of love with her. I mean, the woman shot him in the head and left him for dead, if that didn't kill his love for her, I'm not surprised that a few months of rejecting him emotionally and physically wouldn't either.
It just seems to me what you are describing is more consistent with obsession than love.That's why I think the EJ/Sami relationship as similar to Stefano/Marlena.I think EJ believes he loves Sami but I don't think he actually loves her now although he may have loved her in the past.I cannot imagine him doing any of the things to Abby that he has done to Sami.
Yeah, I don't really subscribe to the idea that unhealthy or obsessive love isn't love, and that only healthy, balanced love is real love. If you're an unhealthy, obsessive person, then the way you love somebody is presumably going to be that way as well. So until and unless EJ becomes a stable, well-adjusted adult (boring!), I expect his romantic feelings will continue to be on the crazy side. Regardless, it's still love for him.
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Feb 9 2014, 11:21 PM
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I don't think it's surprising at all because of all the lead-up to the affair. EJ has been in love with Sami in some way, shape or form for 7 years. The day before he had sex with Abby for the first time, he told Sami he "loved her so much he couldn't see straight." Yet, she's been consistently rejecting him (justly IMO), so he's been feeling hurt, angry and used. And because he's been feeling that way, I think he felt justified in taking what he wanted from Abby. But just because he's hurt and angry doesn't mean his love for Sami just vanished overnight. It would be more surprising to me that after all these years and after everything he tried to be with Sami that EJ just suddenly fell out of love with her. I mean, the woman shot him in the head and left him for dead, if that didn't kill his love for her, I'm not surprised that a few months of rejecting him emotionally and physically wouldn't either.
It just seems to me what you are describing is more consistent with obsession than love.That's why I think the EJ/Sami relationship as similar to Stefano/Marlena.I think EJ believes he loves Sami but I don't think he actually loves her now although he may have loved her in the past.I cannot imagine him doing any of the things to Abby that he has done to Sami.
Yeah, I don't really subscribe to the idea that unhealthy or obsessive love isn't love, and that only healthy, balanced love is real love. If you're an unhealthy, obsessive person, then the way you love somebody is presumably going to be that way as well. So until and unless EJ becomes a stable, well-adjusted adult (boring!), I expect his romantic feelings will continue to be on the crazy side. Regardless, it's still love for him.
I agree.

And it's pretty much the way Sami loves too.

That still doesn't mean I wouldn't put a boot in his ass, love or not.
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EJ is well on his way to becoming Stefano Jr

He just has more sex appeal.
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Feb 7 2014, 05:35 PM
That was clearly
designed to keep fans watching. This is
supposed to go on for months.
I take the actors point of view as a
grain of salt. No way is this just sex
with Abby. I've watched the clips and seen
the pics. Besides AS is leaving, so all of this is mute.
In my eyes, this is done as bait to keep fans watching until AS
leaves
I do not see James going any wheres. Except straight back
to Abby.
That is one great Gif-Banner.I lost focus for a minute or two.

Addendum:I guess I lost focus for more than a minute,I forgot my comment on the post.I I hope the purpose is to keep fans watching.When you say you don't see James going anywhere except back to Abby,I assume you think James Scott is staying with the show and EJ is going to be paired with Abby.Has anyone heard anything about his contract status?
Edited by BeeBee, Feb 9 2014, 11:42 PM.
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Is it just me or does anybody else have the urge to correct people's"moot point" to moo point?

I mean, it's like a cows opinion. It doesn't matter.Its moo.
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Feb 9 2014, 11:25 PM
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It just seems to me what you are describing is more consistent with obsession than love.That's why I think the EJ/Sami relationship as similar to Stefano/Marlena.I think EJ believes he loves Sami but I don't think he actually loves her now although he may have loved her in the past.I cannot imagine him doing any of the things to Abby that he has done to Sami.
Yeah, I don't really subscribe to the idea that unhealthy or obsessive love isn't love, and that only healthy, balanced love is real love. If you're an unhealthy, obsessive person, then the way you love somebody is presumably going to be that way as well. So until and unless EJ becomes a stable, well-adjusted adult (boring!), I expect his romantic feelings will continue to be on the crazy side. Regardless, it's still love for him.
I agree.

And it's pretty much the way Sami loves too.

That still doesn't mean I wouldn't put a boot in his ass, love or not.
Exactly. They both have an unhealthy, obsessive attraction to each other. They have extreme passion that manifests itself in both great and terrible ways. We've seen them make each other really happy and make each other completely miserable. And because of that they probably shouldn't be together, but they can't seem to stay away. It's not a great relationship by any standard, but it makes for entertaining soap.
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Feb 9 2014, 11:35 PM
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Feb 9 2014, 11:25 PM
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Yeah, I don't really subscribe to the idea that unhealthy or obsessive love isn't love, and that only healthy, balanced love is real love. If you're an unhealthy, obsessive person, then the way you love somebody is presumably going to be that way as well. So until and unless EJ becomes a stable, well-adjusted adult (boring!), I expect his romantic feelings will continue to be on the crazy side. Regardless, it's still love for him.
I agree.

And it's pretty much the way Sami loves too.

That still doesn't mean I wouldn't put a boot in his ass, love or not.
Exactly. They both have an unhealthy, obsessive attraction to each other. They have extreme passion that manifests itself in both great and terrible ways. We've seen them make each other really happy and make each other completely miserable. And because of that they probably shouldn't be together, but they can't seem to stay away. It's not a great relationship by any standard, but it makes for entertaining soap.
Yep.

I believe that's been referenced many times over the course of their relationship.

Sami told him that during Daysaster...they are the opposite of good together, when they get together disaster ensues.

Also, EJ said it more recently that they can't be away from each other..they're miserable, etc.

I think JS also referenced it at DOD, that they can't stay away from each other.

I think for as long as AS is on screen they'll be involved with each other in one facet or another.

They're far from healthy but they can be damn entertaining.
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